Red Herring? Since when does a mere store manager override HQ? That's an impressive stance to take.
And "she did nothing illegal". It is not illegal to go pick up a "ship to store" pre-paid piece of equipment. If that Apple store manager didn't want her there, he could have just given the iphones to her, and asked her to leave. He does not have the right to withhold hardware that was already paid for.
She went to pick up the iPhone(s) that she already paid for, online. "Ship to store".
That's illegal now?
The store's manager does *NOT* override Apple HQ. If HQ ships her iPhone to the store so that she can go pick it up, she should be able to pick it up. How is that illegal?
See, this is where there's a problem. The link I shared states:
iOS supports over-the-air installation of enterprise apps, letting you distribute in-house software to your users without using iTunes.
Requirements
A secure web server that authenticated users can access
An iOS app in.ipa format, built for release/production with an enterprise provisioning profile
An XML manifest file, described later in this document
A network configuration that allows the devices to access an iTunes server at Apple
Installing the app is simple. Users download the manifest file from your website to their iOS device. The manifest file instructs the device to download and install the apps referenced in the manifest file.
You can distribute the URL for downloading the manifest file by SMS or email, or by embedding it in another enterprise app you create.
If you can't understand that, I don't know what hope there is - you should demand your money back from whatever school you went to.
I showed you one commercial app that is distributed commercially without Apple's AppStore. They don't add UIDs - this is an enterprise app where you buy thousands of licenses at a go. This means the company has to buy hundreds of developer licenses so that they can add up to 100 UIDs per developer license? You are seriously shitting me right?
And I love how you claim I have no knowledge of this - I am the one who pushed this exact technique out to our developers who had tested it and confirmed it works. Yes - we are doing this at work.
Hmm. I don't remember giving them my UID. But I could have, it's been a while.
But, seriously, why do you keep insisting on the UID stuff? That 100 UID is for registering for *TESTING FOR DEVELOPMENT*.
*sigh* You made me look it up. For the last time. *YOU DO NOT FUCKING NEED TO DISTRIBUTE APPS TO IOS DEVICES USING APPLE'S APPSTORE. You *DO* need a valid Dunn Street # and $299 for the enterprise cert.*[1]
[1] And for those who do not understand how these things work - that cert is only used to sign your app once. IF you never update your app, you don't have to renew that cert next year.
2) It distributes them from it's private appstore.
3) Do you know WTF is a private appstore? It's just a fucking URL on a webserver.
4) Since the pinecone app is not downloaded from Apple's appstore, but from pinecone's webserver, what do you think that is called? A private appstore.
5) How do you think it distributes the apps to its customers? By sending them a fucking URL.
6) How do you think the customers install it on their *UN*jailbroken iOS devices? By going to that fucking URL.
7) Try telling me again how my iPhone that is *NOT* managed by pinecone manages to go to that URL and download *AND INSTALL* the pinecone app and how that is not "distributing your app to your customers without going through Apple's AppStore"
8) Documentation for doing this is widely available - you can simply google for it - I have provided enough information in the previous threads.
Except that Apple never promised to host anything for you for $99. That's for developer access. If you can't even understand such a simple concept, I wonder about your programming skills.
If you want to compare it to Google, you should compare it to the $0 that Google charges for developer access.
Seriously? Microsoft charges $1000 to $5000 for MSDN, and Apple charges $99 and their developer access, and all of a sudden, they also provide hosting, bandwidth and all that?
What the fuck are you smoking? Jesus Christ, talk about entitlement mentality or fucking morons.
Why do people keep insisting on that bullshit? As long as you have a corporate cert signed by Apple ($299/year, you need a Dunn Street number), you can use that to sign any apps you write all day long and host it on your own corporate "appstore".
so... basically change Microsoft Office from "Office" to "skydrive enabled office", drop the price from $299 to $9, and charge everything else as "sky drive component" to bypass?
You sound like those ebay sellers that sell stuff for $1 but charge $20 to $50 for "shipping and handling".
stupid anonymous idiot without a brain that is capable of thinking.
A company's stock price is driven by its worth.
Would I rather buy stock of a company that is doubling and tripling its worth, or a stock that is offering dividends but actually dropping the value of the company?
People are idiots when it comes to stock price. It is about the value of the company. *THAT IS IT*
Giving dividends actually reduce the total value of the company. But companies do it because it gives their executives a bunch of cash that does not involve selling stock.
Why are you bring facts to this debate? Come on, you're supposed to just spout talking points about why Foxconn sucks (Fox that cons you?? WTF?!)
And why Apple sucks because Apple uses Foxconn.
And we will ignore the fact that nearly every other major brand's electronics also come out of Foxconn factories (or other similar outsourced manufacturers).
Come on man, keep up with the times - bitching about what you imagine Apple to be abusing is the theme of the day!
1) information is never sent in the default configuration 2) You have to *OPT IN* to send diagnostic information to apple 3) If you do turn it on, it has no access to the UI layer - NO FUCKING KEYLOGGING 4) It doesn't send emails or other shit, just phone numbers - you know, for fucking diagnostic on why your phone isn't successfully making phone calls.
Another idiot Anon Coward. Double bonus points for missing the irony in calling out irony.
Additional bonus points for not actually bothering to find out exactly what happened before commenting. Hint: a simple search on slashdot gives you this:
Slashdot Mirror
You lie. RedHat 3 wasn't out at that time! :)
Red Herring? Since when does a mere store manager override HQ? That's an impressive stance to take.
And "she did nothing illegal". It is not illegal to go pick up a "ship to store" pre-paid piece of equipment. If that Apple store manager didn't want her there, he could have just given the iphones to her, and asked her to leave. He does not have the right to withhold hardware that was already paid for.
She went to pick up the iPhone(s) that she already paid for, online. "Ship to store".
That's illegal now?
The store's manager does *NOT* override Apple HQ. If HQ ships her iPhone to the store so that she can go pick it up, she should be able to pick it up. How is that illegal?
See, this is where there's a problem. The link I shared states:
iOS supports over-the-air installation of enterprise apps, letting you distribute in-house software to your users without using iTunes.
Requirements
A secure web server that authenticated users can access
An iOS app in .ipa format, built for release/production with an enterprise provisioning profile
An XML manifest file, described later in this document
A network configuration that allows the devices to access an iTunes server at Apple
Installing the app is simple. Users download the manifest file from your website to their iOS device. The manifest file instructs the device to download and install the apps referenced in the manifest file.
You can distribute the URL for downloading the manifest file by SMS or email, or by embedding it in another enterprise app you create.
If you can't understand that, I don't know what hope there is - you should demand your money back from whatever school you went to.
I showed you one commercial app that is distributed commercially without Apple's AppStore. They don't add UIDs - this is an enterprise app where you buy thousands of licenses at a go. This means the company has to buy hundreds of developer licenses so that they can add up to 100 UIDs per developer license? You are seriously shitting me right?
And I love how you claim I have no knowledge of this - I am the one who pushed this exact technique out to our developers who had tested it and confirmed it works. Yes - we are doing this at work.
So, seriously, stop talking rot.
Hmm. I don't remember giving them my UID. But I could have, it's been a while.
But, seriously, why do you keep insisting on the UID stuff? That 100 UID is for registering for *TESTING FOR DEVELOPMENT*.
*sigh* You made me look it up. For the last time. *YOU DO NOT FUCKING NEED TO DISTRIBUTE APPS TO IOS DEVICES USING APPLE'S APPSTORE. You *DO* need a valid Dunn Street # and $299 for the enterprise cert.*[1]
http://help.apple.com/iosdeployment-apps/mac/1.1/#app43ad871e
[1] And for those who do not understand how these things work - that cert is only used to sign your app once. IF you never update your app, you don't have to renew that cert next year.
Lets try it one more time, but slower this time.
1) How do you suppose LRW Pinecone distributes its "security container" app for iOS? http://www.lrwtechnologies.com/pinecone.html
2) It distributes them from it's private appstore.
3) Do you know WTF is a private appstore? It's just a fucking URL on a webserver.
4) Since the pinecone app is not downloaded from Apple's appstore, but from pinecone's webserver, what do you think that is called? A private appstore.
5) How do you think it distributes the apps to its customers? By sending them a fucking URL.
6) How do you think the customers install it on their *UN*jailbroken iOS devices? By going to that fucking URL.
7) Try telling me again how my iPhone that is *NOT* managed by pinecone manages to go to that URL and download *AND INSTALL* the pinecone app and how that is not "distributing your app to your customers without going through Apple's AppStore"
8) Documentation for doing this is widely available - you can simply google for it - I have provided enough information in the previous threads.
How the fuck do you think pinecone distributes its app from it's private appstore to non-jailbroken iphones, without going through Apple's AppStore?
You should really try to keep up.
The summary says they got her onto the ground and then tazed her.
This is slashdot, you expect morons to actually read *AND* comprehend what they read?
You know, jay walking is illegal too. Is tasering the right response? So is spitting on the sidewalk. Is tasering the right response?
Since tasering is considered OK - is it OK to shoot them too if the taser ran out of juice?
What a dumbass.
How the fuck is this insightful? Did she take out a gun and hold some ipads hostage? WTF?
Just don't sell them to her - if you don't take her money, she can't take the product out of the store - what is so difficult about that concept?
Do you work that hard to pretend to be stupid?
How does a fucking iphone know whether the person holding it is a Microsoft employee or not?
Except that Apple never promised to host anything for you for $99. That's for developer access. If you can't even understand such a simple concept, I wonder about your programming skills.
If you want to compare it to Google, you should compare it to the $0 that Google charges for developer access.
Why do I feel like I'm talking to a 3 year old?
Seriously? Microsoft charges $1000 to $5000 for MSDN, and Apple charges $99 and their developer access, and all of a sudden, they also provide hosting, bandwidth and all that?
What the fuck are you smoking? Jesus Christ, talk about entitlement mentality or fucking morons.
Why do people keep insisting on that bullshit? As long as you have a corporate cert signed by Apple ($299/year, you need a Dunn Street number), you can use that to sign any apps you write all day long and host it on your own corporate "appstore".
This is very well documented.
So, what the fuck?!
Please note - you have no clue why the anti-trust lawsuit was filed.
And Microsoft is perfectly able to do their own private app store. All they needed is a Dunn street number and $299 per year.
So what the fuck are you going on about?
so... basically change Microsoft Office from "Office" to "skydrive enabled office", drop the price from $299 to $9, and charge everything else as "sky drive component" to bypass?
You sound like those ebay sellers that sell stuff for $1 but charge $20 to $50 for "shipping and handling".
stupid anonymous idiot without a brain that is capable of thinking.
A company's stock price is driven by its worth.
Would I rather buy stock of a company that is doubling and tripling its worth, or a stock that is offering dividends but actually dropping the value of the company?
People are idiots when it comes to stock price. It is about the value of the company. *THAT IS IT*
Giving dividends actually reduce the total value of the company. But companies do it because it gives their executives a bunch of cash that does not involve selling stock.
Otherwise, why would a company do it?
Apple should not even give a dividend, IMO.
Why are you bring facts to this debate? Come on, you're supposed to just spout talking points about why Foxconn sucks (Fox that cons you?? WTF?!)
And why Apple sucks because Apple uses Foxconn.
And we will ignore the fact that nearly every other major brand's electronics also come out of Foxconn factories (or other similar outsourced manufacturers).
Come on man, keep up with the times - bitching about what you imagine Apple to be abusing is the theme of the day!
Seriously?! It was mentioned a number of times. You're just acting like a dick.
Here's a link, learn to read. http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/carrier-iq-spyware-references-discovered-in-ios-here-are-the-details/
1) information is never sent in the default configuration
2) You have to *OPT IN* to send diagnostic information to apple
3) If you do turn it on, it has no access to the UI layer - NO FUCKING KEYLOGGING
4) It doesn't send emails or other shit, just phone numbers - you know, for fucking diagnostic on why your phone isn't successfully making phone calls.
Fucking Morons.
Another idiot Anon Coward. Double bonus points for missing the irony in calling out irony.
Additional bonus points for not actually bothering to find out exactly what happened before commenting. Hint: a simple search on slashdot gives you this:
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/05/2225202/researchers-say-carrier-iq-isnt-logging-data-texts
You are either a moron or have simple reading comprehension issues.
Do you classify tcpdump as spyware and hacking tools as well?
CarrierIQ is simply a tool to track usage. That they *LOG* that and *SEND KEYSTROKES* is something that is not available on iOS.
Idiot.
As was I. CarrierIQ, as implemented on iOS, *DID NOT* have the spyware pieces enabled. If there was no spyware, how can you justify calling it spying?
Remember, at its core, CarrierIQ is simply a monitoring solution. That you can turn it into spyware means that someone was doing stupid things.