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>>>It is the final solution.
Please, please, tell me your post was just a clumsy excuse at satire. If not, you might want to find a different way of summing up your post. As is, you look sorta nuts.
>>>If you're a pro, you can show your professionalism by dedicating a few extra minutes to reading up on what has actually been changed.
I have to dissagree. If your a pro, you don't blindly apply patches to production systems the second you hear/read of their existance. Sane admins like to test the "fixes" on non-critical systems first and make sure the they both work and cause no additional harm. This slows down the process a bit but results in fewer mistakes.
>>>Also, watch out for the silver Motorola "Timeport" that Sprint sells through Office Depot and other stores. It is missing 800 MHz digital mode, which the black, non-Sprint version of the same Motorola "StarTAC" digital phone has enabled. So, on the black phone you have the option to do digital roaming and switch to a digital 800 MHz primary carrier, on the silver one you only get analog roaming.
That explains (most) of the strange beep and flashes into "Analog mode", GD-POS. This is the fourth style of phone I've had with Sprint and being the most expensive it sucks the worst.
Shit reception to the point where I can not relaiably accept or make a call from inside my apartment. Walk out side and it's fine, different style phone, no problem, different carrier, no problem, fully charged in my apartment. DOA.
The turned my phone off Sunday morning without warning. Why, because the bill was ~70 overdue they said (after I discovred my dead phone and contacted them). How is that possible? Reminiding them of my recent (2 weeks ago) vist to the Sprint store in which I paid my ballance in full. They did and do discover that they recived and cashed my check as I claimed
What the fu*k did my phone get disconnected for, I ask. The over due amount that you have becaue we (Sprint) told you an incorrect amount due when you came to the Sprint store on Market in SF to pay you phone bill.
My first indication of their mistake was a disruption of service. They get the bill wrong, freely admit it, and turn my phone off with any notice or phone call.
I'm at a loss to belive that people can be that stupid and not accidently kill themselves while young. To Sprint PCS staff at all levels, bite me.
If you are running scsi check your termination, if IDE make sure your jumpred correctly on all devices.
Since you are not hard-frozen you might just try waiting. The setup script sometimes runs across a PCI-IRQ share config than will throw it for a loop (old bios can cause this). When it comes to the stop you describe, wait. There is a fair chance it will start moveing again after ten to fifteen minuits. After it learnes the hardware the boot time will go back down.
IIS is NOT in the kernel, even a little bit, really. It is a userspace series of applications that are executed in the context of one or more service accounts. (no, the account(s) does not have to be give admin priv)
IIS is faster in some cases for 2 reasons
1. IIS is highly multithreaded, Apache is not
2. IIS caches damn near every thing, Apache doesn't.
That damn thing (the LEP) is easily the most complex/huge/impressive thing I've ever seen. The accelerator was running when I was there (12/98) so I was not able to tour the tunnel but surface of the CERN site conveyed the proper impression. Driving the length of the tunnel on the surface would necessitate several stops Swiss/French customs crossing the border while inside the tunnel was granted a special treaty exemption. You couldn't throw a rock without hitting a Nobel winner. Toss a second rock and hit a Nobel laureate from a different country than the first.
Btw, TBL's first WWW host, a NeXT box, was still running in a display case near the Swiss cafeteria. If the CERN staff didn't need to empty the tunnel for the LHC installation you can be sure it (the LEP) would be running as long a it could produce data.
The City voulantarly negoitated and signed a contract with MS for a XXXX user site liscense with MS. As part of that contract MS has the right to request a compliance audit of the City. The City would be in clear violation of the contract that they -freely signed- if they refused the audit request. Their is no 4th Admendant or warrent issues involved at all in this (incredbly common) contract clause. Most every large rental or lease contract for any product (not just software) will containg the same type of compliance lanuage. The courts have upheld such time over and over again.
What would happen to the City if they told MS to get lost. MS would likely sue and win massive dammages for breach of contract. A lessor posibility would then be the fraud/theft/RICO charges against the City offical who stalled the audit if any unliscensed software turns up on the Court orderd audit that would no doubt be issued.
EULA have little to do with this case as they are overridden by the language of the site master contract.
Has anyone else on Slashdot ever actually read a MS select contract?
Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.
C:\>uptime
\\PARADOX has been up for: 0 day(s), 0 hour(s), 33 minute(s), 49 second(s)
C:\>uptime ?
UPTIME, Version 1.01
(C) Copyright 1999, Microsoft Corporation
Uptime [server] [/s ] [/a] [/d:mm/dd/yyyy |/p:n] [/heartbeat] [/? |/help]
server Name or IP address of remote server to process.
/s Display key system events and statistics.
/a Display application failure events (assumes/s).
/d: Only calculate for events after mm/dd/yyyy.
/p: Only calculate for events in the previous n days.
/heartbeat Turn on/off the system's heartbeat
/? Basic usage.
/help Additional usage information.
C:\>
***********
Works on NT4SP4 or higher and W2k. Free (beer) download from MS.
if your browsing/wins/dhcp are setup correctly (big if) the appearance of a new PDC will only affect the subnet the fake server is on. If your sane, you have segrated user/clients from the subnet with you domain hosts along time ago. PDC2 will try to anounce the "new" domain but be overruled but the standard browsing elections. People on the same subnet are in for a little suprise, however. It easy to spot by the problems it causes.
In 7 years of nt I've only met one user who was stupid enough to deliberlty try and clone the PDC namespace with another nt install. He was fired.
>>Slap his wrist, tell him to think twice the next time, and move on.
repeat over and over as each "self-managed" user botches SAMBA because they didn't think they actually need to understand SMB networking.
Just follow the RedHat wizzard'ish thing and make sure you answer any hard questions with the name of the (a) real PDC (b) master account domain (c) main WINS server. Don't forget to have an attiude when the stupid IT guy dares ask you aboutt your new system.
>>I'm sure I don't need to discuss everything that's wrong with that argument here)
Indulge me.
I'm assuming that the production (web?) server was not a linux box, what was it? If the system was a NT/W2K server then there was some truth to their claim. Perl is not a problem but running cgi under IIS is. You get much better performance by running as an ASP and you don't get hit with the -new process for every run- that you do with cgi, on IIS.
Defensive little ba*tard, ain't you. Un-informed to..
IIS4 runs on NT4 server,NT4 Workstation, and Win9X as part of the NT4 Option Kit install. The Wrk/Win9x call them selves Personal Web Server (PWS) amd have the 10 user limit you decry. (9X is missing other stuff also).
Win2K ships with IIS5 in all varients. Same IIS/PWS limits as before. IIS4 will not install on a Win2K box.
It's the same software, one liscened to >10 users (server) one liscened to 10 (Workstation). Your bitch is aout not being able to use a personal/devloper sized (and priced) system and support production sized connections with out paying for it. Basicly your a frustrated, clueless would-be thief.
had it since NTAS31. To plagerise from the NTFAQ (www.ntfaq.com)
****
Q. How can I run an Application at a higher priority?
A. It is possible to start an application at a priority other than normal, however if you run applications at high priority THEY may slow performance. Priorities range from 0 to 31, 0 - 15 are used by Dynamic applications, such as user applications and most of the operating system parts, 16-31 are used by real time applications like the kernel which cannot be written to the page file. Normal priority is level 8 (NT 3.51 normal was 7). The full list is
realtime, priority 24
high, priority 13
normal, priority 8
low, priority 4
abovenormal 10 (Windows 2000 only)
belownormal 6 (Windows 2000 only)
To start an application at a priority other than the default use the start command, e.g.
start / , e.g. start/high winword
To do the same thing from a shortcut just use:
cmd/c start /
Be warned that if you run applications at high priority may slow performance as other application get less I/O time. To use the/realtime option you have to be logged on as a user with Administrator privileges.
To modify the privilege of a currently running application use Task Manager
Start Task Manager (Right Click on the Start Bar and select Task Manager)
Click on the Processes tab
Right Click on the required process and select "Set Priority"
You can then select a different priority
Close Task Manager
It is also possible to increase the priority of whichever application is currently in the foreground, as opposed to the background processes.
Start the System Control Panel Applet (Start - Settings - Control Panel - System)
Click the Performance tab
In the Application Performance tab move the arrow
- None - The foreground application runs the same as background applications (quantum value of 6)
- Middle - The foreground application has its priority increased to a quantum value of 12, background applications stay the same.
- Maximum - The foreground application has its priority increased to 18, background applications stay the same.
Cute, but did you have to demonstrate your own lack of knowledge with you first question? The NT/2000 kernels don't "... support IPv6?" or IPv4, or IPX/SPX or AppleTalk or any transports in the kernel. The protocol stack is essentally a file system shim between the redirector (rdr.sys) and the hardware drivers (also abstracted vis the HAL). That how the IPv6 released 2 years ago was able to install on NT5b2 along side the existing IPv4 stack.
Didn't have shit to talk to and was not very stable (given the b2 system, anyway) but it did work and did not change the kernel at all. Even installed without a reboot.
Win2K does not have "DOS" at all, thus no DOS promt. What it does have is a shell that looks much like "Command.com" thats named "Cmd.exe". Works much like dos but has no support for direct hardware call (bypassing the HAL).
In event of a problem the system can be booted in this UI instead of Explorer.exe by an Admin to repair/recover. Win2K-CLI (limited)
Am I the only one on earth to say "no" to the vendor and get "ok" in response?
My prior employers purchased most PC hardware from Dell with OS (Win98 or NT) preinstalled. When the system arrived it was turned on for a smoke check, the cover of the OS manual torn off and filed away, and net-boot-disk reinstalled with our image for that model, and deployed.
One day the beancounters announced that they had negoiated a MS select contract and that we would no longer buy software liscenes from Dell. (actually saved a lot this way). The next time we called an order to Dell we said "skip the OS". The systems arrived with win98 anyway, but the OS charge was stricked from the bill. No tax, no threats, no problem.
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>>>It is the final solution.
Please, please, tell me your post was just a clumsy excuse at satire. If not, you might want to find a different way of summing up your post. As is, you look sorta nuts.
>>This isn't quantum physics. There is no uncertainty principle.
Tell me then...
Has it finaly been decidecd, once and for all, what "Obscenity" is? Or is the old "I know it when I see it" method stil used in American courts?
>>>If you're a pro, you can show your professionalism by dedicating a few extra minutes to reading up on what has actually been changed.
I have to dissagree. If your a pro, you don't blindly apply patches to production systems the second you hear/read of their existance. Sane admins like to test the "fixes" on non-critical systems first and make sure the they both work and cause no additional harm. This slows down the process a bit but results in fewer mistakes.
>>>Also, watch out for the silver Motorola "Timeport" that Sprint sells through Office Depot and other stores. It is missing 800 MHz digital mode, which the black, non-Sprint version of the same Motorola "StarTAC" digital phone has enabled. So, on the black phone you have the option to do digital roaming and switch to a digital 800 MHz primary carrier, on the silver one you only get analog roaming.
That explains (most) of the strange beep and flashes into "Analog mode", GD-POS. This is the fourth style of phone I've had with Sprint and being the most expensive it sucks the worst.
Shit reception to the point where I can not relaiably accept or make a call from inside my apartment. Walk out side and it's fine, different style phone, no problem, different carrier, no problem, fully charged in my apartment. DOA.
The turned my phone off Sunday morning without warning. Why, because the bill was ~70 overdue they said (after I discovred my dead phone and contacted them). How is that possible? Reminiding them of my recent (2 weeks ago) vist to the Sprint store in which I paid my ballance in full. They did and do discover that they recived and cashed my check as I claimed
What the fu*k did my phone get disconnected for, I ask. The over due amount that you have becaue we (Sprint) told you an incorrect amount due when you came to the Sprint store on Market in SF to pay you phone bill.
My first indication of their mistake was a disruption of service. They get the bill wrong, freely admit it, and turn my phone off with any notice or phone call.
I'm at a loss to belive that people can be that stupid and not accidently kill themselves while young. To Sprint PCS staff at all levels, bite me.
If you are running scsi check your termination, if IDE make sure your jumpred correctly on all devices.
Since you are not hard-frozen you might just try waiting. The setup script sometimes runs across a PCI-IRQ share config than will throw it for a loop (old bios can cause this). When it comes to the stop you describe, wait. There is a fair chance it will start moveing again after ten to fifteen minuits. After it learnes the hardware the boot time will go back down.
>>There's no way to skip anything...
F8 at boot will display the safemode options.
do they ever listen...
IIS is NOT in the kernel, even a little bit, really. It is a userspace series of applications that are executed in the context of one or more service accounts. (no, the account(s) does not have to be give admin priv)
IIS is faster in some cases for 2 reasons
1. IIS is highly multithreaded, Apache is not
2. IIS caches damn near every thing, Apache doesn't.
please let the kernel myth die allready
I second.
That damn thing (the LEP) is easily the most complex/huge/impressive thing I've ever seen. The accelerator was running when I was there (12/98) so I was not able to tour the tunnel but surface of the CERN site conveyed the proper impression. Driving the length of the tunnel on the surface would necessitate several stops Swiss/French customs crossing the border while inside the tunnel was granted a special treaty exemption. You couldn't throw a rock without hitting a Nobel winner. Toss a second rock and hit a Nobel laureate from a different country than the first.
Btw, TBL's first WWW host, a NeXT box, was still running in a display case near the Swiss cafeteria. If the CERN staff didn't need to empty the tunnel for the LHC installation you can be sure it (the LEP) would be running as long a it could produce data.
As I said - free download
/ management/uptime/default.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/downloads
Then they would be really fu*ked.
The City voulantarly negoitated and signed a contract with MS for a XXXX user site liscense with MS. As part of that contract MS has the right to request a compliance audit of the City. The City would be in clear violation of the contract that they -freely signed- if they refused the audit request. Their is no 4th Admendant or warrent issues involved at all in this (incredbly common) contract clause. Most every large rental or lease contract for any product (not just software) will containg the same type of compliance lanuage. The courts have upheld such time over and over again.
What would happen to the City if they told MS to get lost. MS would likely sue and win massive dammages for breach of contract. A lessor posibility would then be the fraud/theft/RICO charges against the City offical who stalled the audit if any unliscensed software turns up on the Court orderd audit that would no doubt be issued.
EULA have little to do with this case as they are overridden by the language of the site master contract.
Has anyone else on Slashdot ever actually read a MS select contract?
Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
/p:n] [/heartbeat] [/? | /help]
/s Display key system events and statistics.
/a Display application failure events (assumes /s).
/d: Only calculate for events after mm/dd/yyyy.
/p: Only calculate for events in the previous n days.
/heartbeat Turn on/off the system's heartbeat
/? Basic usage.
/help Additional usage information.
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.
C:\>uptime
\\PARADOX has been up for: 0 day(s), 0 hour(s), 33 minute(s), 49 second(s)
C:\>uptime ?
UPTIME, Version 1.01
(C) Copyright 1999, Microsoft Corporation
Uptime [server] [/s ] [/a] [/d:mm/dd/yyyy |
server Name or IP address of remote server to process.
C:\>
***********
Works on NT4SP4 or higher and W2k. Free (beer) download from MS.
btw, my system is a laptop.
almost.
if your browsing/wins/dhcp are setup correctly (big if) the appearance of a new PDC will only affect the subnet the fake server is on. If your sane, you have segrated user/clients from the subnet with you domain hosts along time ago. PDC2 will try to anounce the "new" domain but be overruled but the standard browsing elections. People on the same subnet are in for a little suprise, however. It easy to spot by the problems it causes.
In 7 years of nt I've only met one user who was stupid enough to deliberlty try and clone the PDC namespace with another nt install. He was fired.
>>Slap his wrist, tell him to think twice the next time, and move on.
repeat over and over as each "self-managed" user botches SAMBA because they didn't think they actually need to understand SMB networking.
Just follow the RedHat wizzard'ish thing and make sure you answer any hard questions with the name of the (a) real PDC (b) master account domain (c) main WINS server. Don't forget to have an attiude when the stupid IT guy dares ask you aboutt your new system.
>>I'm sure I don't need to discuss everything that's wrong with that argument here)
Indulge me.
I'm assuming that the production (web?) server was not a linux box, what was it? If the system was a NT/W2K server then there was some truth to their claim. Perl is not a problem but running cgi under IIS is. You get much better performance by running as an ASP and you don't get hit with the -new process for every run- that you do with cgi, on IIS.
but you knew all that allready. Damn IT goons.
Defensive little ba*tard, ain't you. Un-informed to..
,NT4 Workstation, and Win9X as part of the NT4 Option Kit install. The Wrk/Win9x call them selves Personal Web Server (PWS) amd have the 10 user limit you decry. (9X is missing other stuff also).
IIS4 runs on NT4 server
Win2K ships with IIS5 in all varients. Same IIS/PWS limits as before. IIS4 will not install on a Win2K box.
It's the same software, one liscened to >10 users (server) one liscened to 10 (Workstation). Your bitch is aout not being able to use a personal/devloper sized (and priced) system and support production sized connections with out paying for it. Basicly your a frustrated, clueless would-be thief.
"Hard to tell if I'm competent to install it until AFTER I try, isn't it? "
One clue about competence, you shouldn't pitch an untested idea and do your first install on you main file servere.
had it since NTAS31. To plagerise from the NTFAQ (www.ntfaq.com)
/high winword
/c start /
/realtime option you have to be logged on as a user with Administrator privileges.
- -----------------------------
****
Q. How can I run an Application at a higher priority?
A. It is possible to start an application at a priority other than normal, however if you run applications at high priority THEY may slow performance. Priorities range from 0 to 31, 0 - 15 are used by Dynamic applications, such as user applications and most of the operating system parts, 16-31 are used by real time applications like the kernel which cannot be written to the page file. Normal priority is level 8 (NT 3.51 normal was 7). The full list is
realtime, priority 24
high, priority 13
normal, priority 8
low, priority 4
abovenormal 10 (Windows 2000 only)
belownormal 6 (Windows 2000 only)
To start an application at a priority other than the default use the start command, e.g.
start / , e.g. start
To do the same thing from a shortcut just use:
cmd
Be warned that if you run applications at high priority may slow performance as other application get less I/O time. To use the
To modify the privilege of a currently running application use Task Manager
Start Task Manager (Right Click on the Start Bar and select Task Manager)
Click on the Processes tab
Right Click on the required process and select "Set Priority"
You can then select a different priority
Close Task Manager
It is also possible to increase the priority of whichever application is currently in the foreground, as opposed to the background processes.
Start the System Control Panel Applet (Start - Settings - Control Panel - System)
Click the Performance tab
In the Application Performance tab move the arrow
- None - The foreground application runs the same as background applications (quantum value of 6)
- Middle - The foreground application has its priority increased to a quantum value of 12, background applications stay the same.
- Maximum - The foreground application has its priority increased to 18, background applications stay the same.
-----------------------------------------------
>>Didn't the melissa virus teach you *anything*?
Guess not, but then I never saw it. or ILOVEYOU or KILLRESUME or...
...actually they did appear in a log of auto deleted mail.
There are instructions and readmes with this stuff. Try them some time, they really help and you might learn something.
BTW, it just checked a new install of Outlook2000/internet only config. The default is plain text. This is a non-issue.
Cute, but did you have to demonstrate your own lack of knowledge with you first question? The NT/2000 kernels don't "... support IPv6?" or IPv4, or IPX/SPX or AppleTalk or any transports in the kernel. The protocol stack is essentally a file system shim between the redirector (rdr.sys) and the hardware drivers (also abstracted vis the HAL). That how the IPv6 released 2 years ago was able to install on NT5b2 along side the existing IPv4 stack.
Didn't have shit to talk to and was not very stable (given the b2 system, anyway) but it did work and did not change the kernel at all. Even installed without a reboot.
>>It'd be different if we all could choose phone numbers based on text monikers or something
You can.
Almost right.
Win2K does not have "DOS" at all, thus no DOS promt. What it does have is a shell that looks much like "Command.com" thats named "Cmd.exe". Works much like dos but has no support for direct hardware call (bypassing the HAL).
In event of a problem the system can be booted in this UI instead of Explorer.exe by an Admin to repair/recover. Win2K-CLI (limited)
Am I the only one on earth to say "no" to the vendor and get "ok" in response?
My prior employers purchased most PC hardware from Dell with OS (Win98 or NT) preinstalled. When the system arrived it was turned on for a smoke check, the cover of the OS manual torn off and filed away, and net-boot-disk reinstalled with our image for that model, and deployed.
One day the beancounters announced that they had negoiated a MS select contract and that we would no longer buy software liscenes from Dell. (actually saved a lot this way). The next time we called an order to Dell we said "skip the OS". The systems arrived with win98 anyway, but the OS charge was stricked from the bill. No tax, no threats, no problem.