In case you hadn't noticed, slashdot has gotten a lot crappier in the last year or so. It's not the editors, it's the readers, and the posters. Everytime I try to correct someone's incorrect info, I get three posts in reply with personal attacks.
I submit stories of vital importance to online freedom, and instead some anime shit makes the front page.
I've come to the conclusion, I'm going to start to read at +4 on main page stories, and not post unless it is really really important.
It's dissapointing that Slashdot has become this. My karma slides down every time I moderate, because any idiot can metamoderate, and they usually do so badly.
This whole thing is broken. By allowing negative moderation, creating karma, and arbitrary selection of stories, the creators of Slashdot messed up bad. Karma creates a competition, negative moderation allows for revenge in moderation, and arbitrary story selection means that important news will fall through the cracks.
Whew...
OK, that was worth the 2 karma I will lose when I am modded down.:) -
I'm not buying that. Point me to a reference that says "electriciy propogation" doesn't have to do with electron mobility, and the electron mobility is a "few inches per hour".
Propagation was my term, I use it to refer to the transfer of energy.
My original point was just that electrical energy already travels about at the speed of light. Various things can affect this speed, just as light passing through various materials will change speed. "Electricity" is an abused term, used to refer to lots of things. -
What is "electricity propagation" and how is it different the electron mobility in a field, which I thought was electricity, er, current flow, whatever... i've been outta college for 10 years...
Well, I think it boils down to two things, how fast it takes for a voltage to get from one side of a conductor to another, this is what I referred to as propagation. This is what is important in computers and other high frequency electronics.
Then there is the actual current flow of electrons, which is really slow in comparision, like a few inches per hour in a normal curcuit. This is mostly acedemic.
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compared to light electricity travels relatively slowly, thats why people are interested in optical computers, because they offer enormously faster speeds.
I'm sorry, but that is just not correct. Electricity propagation velocity is very close to the speed of light in the atmosphere. If you are talking about electron flow, that is much slower, on the order of a few inches per hour. I think it is safe to assume we are talking about propagation velocity here.
Do some research, it's an interesting subject. The reason light holds promise is because we can modulate a lot more data into it, not because it propagates much faster. -
My own business ran credit cards inhouse on a $900 PC running IC Verify with a dialup account ($19.95/a month). It could be run on a $400 PC today.
I agree with you, it can be done cheaper, but I also think your logic is flawed.
I bet you don't hire consultants to write web pages for you either. Not everyone is a geek like us. To many, it would cost a lot more to hire someone to set up the whole thing. The bottom line is that if the people that use Amazon donations were technically savvy enough to do all this themselves, then they would. They are willingly paying the 15% so they don't have to pay someone to set up all this for them.
Also, if you think you can undercut Amazon so much, then do it and get rich! The fees from the merchant account provider on a $1 credit card payment are a high percentage, I bet Amazon is barely breaking even on payments smaller than $5. -
A comment lambasting religion as a greedy, get-rich quick scheme robbing from the dumb and giving to the corrupt.
There are real Christians still left, but they are becoming fewer and fewer. Havn't you ever watched the many "Christian" cable networks? They are more like 24 hour infomercials selling prayers and blessings. Religion is in a sad state overall.
The argument is irrelevant, however. We were talking about using these religious tactics to make ourselves rich, in our own lines of work, which is something I would like very much to do.
I bring enlightenment.
Phase Locked Loop.
Now apologise to the guy you took a jab at, and go learn.
Man, you have seem to have lots of accounts. If this is indeed all one person, you a very sad and pathetic person, if you feel it necessary to stick up for yourself by posting under various names.
Before we even get started, let me make it clear that I only corrected the information in the original post, I did not do this in a derisive way. I'm sorry if I hurt your geek ego by correcting you.
I am a ham radio operator, I think I know how a PLL circuit works.
No circuit can know how fast it is running without having some sort of oscillator as a reference. Putting an oscillator in the processor itself is very difficult due to interference issues.
The point is, while it may be possible to build such an "overclock protection" into a chip, no one has done it yet, and I doubt they will anytime soon, because it will need some sort of trusted reference frequency to compare to, or use directly, and putting a frequency generator on the processor itself presents huge design problems. -
It's not surprising that they didn't publish that article. It sounds very similar to one that they published over two months earlier.
Good point. My post was not meant to complain so much as to offer it in answer to the question, however.
I was under the impression that this Amazon system was much newer than that. I guess I shouldn't believe the marketspeak when they call it a "new feature".:) -
Religion sells because people don't know they are buying something, they feel good about themselves while they fork over their money, they WANT to pay. They use sex, drugs and rock and roll to sell their goods. The use all kinds of fear to generate their income, it's a brilliant business.
But how can the fairly consultant such as you(assumedly) and I use such tactics effectively?
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It's not for Amazon, it's for small web site owners like the one asking the question.
You, the web site owner sign up for it, then you provide a link on your page through which people can send you micropayments.
Don't know if this link really works, Amazon has one messed up system, I can't tell which links are real and which ones are dynamically generated for my personal account, which it somehow associated with me even through a re-install. There is more than just cookies at work there, scary.
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My fundamental right to overclock my computers until they explode is being violated. Intel has probably put in some clock-limiting circuitry. I want this processor to run at 2 GHz. I don't need that power, but I must run my systems as fast as possible.
There is no such thing as clock limiting circuitry.
The chip derives its clock from a frequency provided by the motherboard. There is no way it can "know" how fast it is running unless there is some sort of frequency generator in the processor itself, which is fraught with many problems, and will probably never happen. -
You would know about Amazon's new micropayment system, but the slashdot editors thought it unfit for print, apparently.
2001-04-21 23:26:04 Amazon Launches New Micropayment System (articles,news) (rejected)
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I don't think our American friends are familiar with the show. It contains too disturbing scenes of deviant sexuality.
Yeah, we get it here. Most of the sexual jokes are subtle enough that I guess the censors don't get it. We are one season behind the rest of the world I think though.
Like you notice on Water in the garden the flowers looked like penises?:) -
"If you don't like this New World Order, go live on another world."
Hey I like that. Hope you don't mind if I steal it and use it to refer to MS. I won't put it in my sig out of respect though.:) -
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I submit stories of vital importance to online freedom, and instead some anime shit makes the front page.
I've come to the conclusion, I'm going to start to read at +4 on main page stories, and not post unless it is really really important.
It's dissapointing that Slashdot has become this. My karma slides down every time I moderate, because any idiot can metamoderate, and they usually do so badly.
This whole thing is broken. By allowing negative moderation, creating karma, and arbitrary selection of stories, the creators of Slashdot messed up bad. Karma creates a competition, negative moderation allows for revenge in moderation, and arbitrary story selection means that important news will fall through the cracks.
Whew...
OK, that was worth the 2 karma I will lose when I am modded down. :)
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Propagation was my term, I use it to refer to the transfer of energy.
Here, read this.
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My original point was just that electrical energy already travels about at the speed of light. Various things can affect this speed, just as light passing through various materials will change speed. "Electricity" is an abused term, used to refer to lots of things.
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Well, I think it boils down to two things, how fast it takes for a voltage to get from one side of a conductor to another, this is what I referred to as propagation. This is what is important in computers and other high frequency electronics.
Then there is the actual current flow of electrons, which is really slow in comparision, like a few inches per hour in a normal curcuit. This is mostly acedemic.
Either way, you can't really say "electricity" is slower than light, in any meaningful way.
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I'm sorry, but that is just not correct. Electricity propagation velocity is very close to the speed of light in the atmosphere. If you are talking about electron flow, that is much slower, on the order of a few inches per hour. I think it is safe to assume we are talking about propagation velocity here.
Do some research, it's an interesting subject. The reason light holds promise is because we can modulate a lot more data into it, not because it propagates much faster.
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Just how fast do you think electricity travels? Its already approximately the speed of light.
And it already takes about a nanosecond for light/electricity to go the distance of your motherboard, which has to be taken account for in design.
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Too bad I sold my SFP stock, I didn't know it was going to be slashdotted.
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You mean like CD-ROMs? :)
It is interesting, but I have a few questions, like how would you read the data back out? How would you make these things tiny enough?
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At least IE apologizes now. :)
"I'm sorry, you are fucked."
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You missed "proactive" and "B2B", though.
Still, I laughed out loud, something rare for me to do when reading slashdot. :)
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I agree with you, it can be done cheaper, but I also think your logic is flawed.
I bet you don't hire consultants to write web pages for you either. Not everyone is a geek like us. To many, it would cost a lot more to hire someone to set up the whole thing. The bottom line is that if the people that use Amazon donations were technically savvy enough to do all this themselves, then they would. They are willingly paying the 15% so they don't have to pay someone to set up all this for them.
Also, if you think you can undercut Amazon so much, then do it and get rich! The fees from the merchant account provider on a $1 credit card payment are a high percentage, I bet Amazon is barely breaking even on payments smaller than $5.
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There are real Christians still left, but they are becoming fewer and fewer. Havn't you ever watched the many "Christian" cable networks? They are more like 24 hour infomercials selling prayers and blessings. Religion is in a sad state overall.
The argument is irrelevant, however. We were talking about using these religious tactics to make ourselves rich, in our own lines of work, which is something I would like very much to do.
I am an ordained reverend, after all. :)
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Man, you have seem to have lots of accounts. If this is indeed all one person, you a very sad and pathetic person, if you feel it necessary to stick up for yourself by posting under various names.
Before we even get started, let me make it clear that I only corrected the information in the original post, I did not do this in a derisive way. I'm sorry if I hurt your geek ego by correcting you.
I am a ham radio operator, I think I know how a PLL circuit works.
No circuit can know how fast it is running without having some sort of oscillator as a reference. Putting an oscillator in the processor itself is very difficult due to interference issues.
The point is, while it may be possible to build such an "overclock protection" into a chip, no one has done it yet, and I doubt they will anytime soon, because it will need some sort of trusted reference frequency to compare to, or use directly, and putting a frequency generator on the processor itself presents huge design problems.
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Well, since you seem to know so much about it, and how I am wrong, why don't you enlighten us?
If you can offer nothing but critisism without explaining what indeed is wrong with my facts, then you are just trolling.
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Good point. My post was not meant to complain so much as to offer it in answer to the question, however.
I was under the impression that this Amazon system was much newer than that. I guess I shouldn't believe the marketspeak when they call it a "new feature". :)
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Religion sells because people don't know they are buying something, they feel good about themselves while they fork over their money, they WANT to pay. They use sex, drugs and rock and roll to sell their goods. The use all kinds of fear to generate their income, it's a brilliant business. But how can the fairly consultant such as you(assumedly) and I use such tactics effectively? I havn't found many applications of FUD in my daily business, though I am looking!
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Hey, instead of leaving this cyber-darwinism to natural selection, why don't we open up a "Stupid web site hunting season?" :)
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You, the web site owner sign up for it, then you provide a link on your page through which people can send you micropayments.
Don't know if this link really works, Amazon has one messed up system, I can't tell which links are real and which ones are dynamically generated for my personal account, which it somehow associated with me even through a re-install. There is more than just cookies at work there, scary. Link
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There is no such thing as clock limiting circuitry.
The chip derives its clock from a frequency provided by the motherboard. There is no way it can "know" how fast it is running unless there is some sort of frequency generator in the processor itself, which is fraught with many problems, and will probably never happen.
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You would know about Amazon's new micropayment system, but the slashdot editors thought it unfit for print, apparently. 2001-04-21 23:26:04 Amazon Launches New Micropayment System (articles,news) (rejected) Donations are minimum of $1. Fees are 15 cents fixed + 15%.
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As someone else suggested, go to goto.com and search for "bulk email", just by clicking the top 5 links you can cost spammers $20.
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This is great, I just cost spammers $20 in less than a minute. I suggest everyone do the same.
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Do you want smaller government?
Vote for midgets?
hehe That's pretty good.
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Yeah, we get it here. Most of the sexual jokes are subtle enough that I guess the censors don't get it. We are one season behind the rest of the world I think though.
Like you notice on Water in the garden the flowers looked like penises? :)
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You think that's bad, just think when they release it in color!
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"If you don't like this New World Order, go live on another world." Hey I like that. Hope you don't mind if I steal it and use it to refer to MS. I won't put it in my sig out of respect though. :)
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