Is that why Exxon made the iPhone? Lunar mining has nothing to do with the core business of any of those companies. You do realise there are no hydrocarbon lakes on the moon?
I see you say "delivered on demand" for gas, but neglect that the fuel itself comes over wires in the EV case. Remember: everyone filling leaves old batteries behind.
If it's analog, then it's behaviour is unique per chip, and so anything you build from them will be subtly unique. So "software" would behave differently depending on the unit it was running on. You thought 4 or 5 versions of Linux was tricky to support...
No, this is more like science begging for charity. It's disgusting, as are begging for cancer research funding and any of the other underfunded "charitable causes".
They didn't have LEDs in the mid 1800s. Do you really need that WHOLE pile of text answered, or is that enough to demonstrate that you have no idea what you are talking about? No PV, no Solar Thermal Power. No nuclear power even, if you want that crowd to chime in. They burnt gas for LIGHT alone FFS!
Your whole mode of argument so ridiculous, I can't even think of a car analogy to help you understand.
At some point, yes, we may have to start shooting people. Don't think it won't come to that - read up about forestry preservation measures in the Dominican Republic (and observe their beautiful lush forests compared to their sick and dying twin neighbor - Haiti).
You look at a single equation and think its all there is to know, like some starry eyed quant in 2007. Loss of ice albedo is not a diminishing feedback, and the clathrate gun hypothesis suggests some variables may be massively positive feedsback that appear as zero in the equation until they trigger.
Sounds to me like you're using the tragedy of the commons as an excuse for yourself.
Solvng the tragedy of the commons is always done by first having enough people doing the right thing to gain the moral ground from which to politically force the collective good upon the remaining commoners.
New York still has a big green square of prime goat-grazing land last I heard.
Don't worry - it's nothing like that. So long as Babyland India get their Thorium reactors going before they sprog too much more, China is ZPG or better. The remaining developing countries are a drop in the bucket.
Whatever you're doing is worth it, as it is for anyone in the high-consumption-per-capita countries - we get the most bang for our efforts (the guy in Somalia wishes he had a bicycle to go to work on!)
Me too... can't get closer to work than that! Air travel though IS a problem (even without a private jet), the numbers are quite astounding. Sadly, here in Australia, our train network makes Amtrak look like the Shinkansen.
Do you laugh if the faces of the next generation as you pass them by? For 50,000 years we have struggled to achieve the society that lets you not give a fuck. And now you'll happily flush it all in a mere 100 years? Then those that DO wish to carry on will have to be shooting arseholes like you in 20.
It's not nothing. What you are doing gives you the moral right to demand the same from others, and that is what politics is all about. Part of the problem in energy-hungry populations is the "everyone is doing it" excuse. Your actions directly attack that problem. Tell others. Be condescending to energy wasters, or politely helpful with suggestions - either will help.
Me too. I started by living closer to work (change work if you must). You can buy 100% renewable energy electricity in most countries. Only costs 20% extra or so. Add a vegetable garden, local shopping, and you're down to HALF. Once 51% of us are doing it, we can politically beat up on the 49% bloodsuckers (and unlike us, THEY are going to feel it since they're addicted to the juice).
You cannot expect climate change deniers to understand that areas between longitudes at lower latitudes are larger than areas at higher latitudes. Or were you just explaining to these morons that latitudes stop at 90?
Your faith in science is excellent. However, you're basically saying it is somehow easier to collect a vastly dispersed gas rather than to stop producing it.
Climate control engineering is far far beyond human capacity in time to solve this. The things that are well within our power are utility-scale solar thermal power and electric automobiles. These simple, existing technologies are completely sufficient. They just need to be built. To do so will have far less risk and lower cost than fanciful planet-sized umbrellas and other science fiction dreamery.
More importantly, when someone builds them, you can believe it, unlike when someone tells you they are going to research climate control, "clean coal", or other distractions. Don't believe anything but real action.
Buy wind power (at a premium) RIGHT NOW. Contact your electricity provider and ensure they too are taking it seriously. You can act now. It's only 20% or so extra in Australia (and expect that gap to close with the Carbon Tax).
PV is idiotic. Solar Thermal Power. Ausra do it all with simple pipes and reflective Mylar. Leave PV for satellites and interstellar probes where it was intended. If you install it on your roof, youre an idiot consumer contributing to the problem while you fantasize you're helping.
Yes, now add stuff up. Unless Japan and Germany and UK are Third World countries I haven't heard of, or unless you think that China is "Third World", how can you get 60% of that pie as "Third World"? Other than by lying to yourself.
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So, act.
Is that why Exxon made the iPhone? Lunar mining has nothing to do with the core business of any of those companies. You do realise there are no hydrocarbon lakes on the moon?
It's good until you burn it.
I see you say "delivered on demand" for gas, but neglect that the fuel itself comes over wires in the EV case. Remember: everyone filling leaves old batteries behind.
Not when everyone is doing it.
If it's analog, then it's behaviour is unique per chip, and so anything you build from them will be subtly unique. So "software" would behave differently depending on the unit it was running on. You thought 4 or 5 versions of Linux was tricky to support...
No, this is more like science begging for charity. It's disgusting, as are begging for cancer research funding and any of the other underfunded "charitable causes".
They didn't have LEDs in the mid 1800s. Do you really need that WHOLE pile of text answered, or is that enough to demonstrate that you have no idea what you are talking about? No PV, no Solar Thermal Power. No nuclear power even, if you want that crowd to chime in. They burnt gas for LIGHT alone FFS!
Your whole mode of argument so ridiculous, I can't even think of a car analogy to help you understand.
Why guess? Don't you have Internet access? Too stupid to use it? It's under 5% of human output.
200 years is only 6 generations these days. Most DNA on Slashdot is stuck in a sterile vessel of course, so expect yourself company here.
At some point, yes, we may have to start shooting people. Don't think it won't come to that - read up about forestry preservation measures in the Dominican Republic (and observe their beautiful lush forests compared to their sick and dying twin neighbor - Haiti).
You ran out of aces quite a few posts back. Now you're just lying to yourself.
You know more than all those scientists, do you? No, you don't. You wish you did..
The real irony of those candles is that you are blind.
You look at a single equation and think its all there is to know, like some starry eyed quant in 2007. Loss of ice albedo is not a diminishing feedback, and the clathrate gun hypothesis suggests some variables may be massively positive feedsback that appear as zero in the equation until they trigger.
While you are on Wikipedia, perhaps you need to research the clathrate gun hypothesis. Point of no return enough for you? Willing to risk it?
Sounds to me like you're using the tragedy of the commons as an excuse for yourself.
Solvng the tragedy of the commons is always done by first having enough people doing the right thing to gain the moral ground from which to politically force the collective good upon the remaining commoners.
New York still has a big green square of prime goat-grazing land last I heard.
Don't worry - it's nothing like that. So long as Babyland India get their Thorium reactors going before they sprog too much more, China is ZPG or better. The remaining developing countries are a drop in the bucket.
Whatever you're doing is worth it, as it is for anyone in the high-consumption-per-capita countries - we get the most bang for our efforts (the guy in Somalia wishes he had a bicycle to go to work on!)
Me too... can't get closer to work than that! Air travel though IS a problem (even without a private jet), the numbers are quite astounding. Sadly, here in Australia, our train network makes Amtrak look like the Shinkansen.
Do you laugh if the faces of the next generation as you pass them by? For 50,000 years we have struggled to achieve the society that lets you not give a fuck. And now you'll happily flush it all in a mere 100 years? Then those that DO wish to carry on will have to be shooting arseholes like you in 20.
It's not nothing. What you are doing gives you the moral right to demand the same from others, and that is what politics is all about. Part of the problem in energy-hungry populations is the "everyone is doing it" excuse. Your actions directly attack that problem. Tell others. Be condescending to energy wasters, or politely helpful with suggestions - either will help.
Me too. I started by living closer to work (change work if you must). You can buy 100% renewable energy electricity in most countries. Only costs 20% extra or so. Add a vegetable garden, local shopping, and you're down to HALF. Once 51% of us are doing it, we can politically beat up on the 49% bloodsuckers (and unlike us, THEY are going to feel it since they're addicted to the juice).
You cannot expect climate change deniers to understand that areas between longitudes at lower latitudes are larger than areas at higher latitudes. Or were you just explaining to these morons that latitudes stop at 90?
"Lalalalalalala no proof yet lalalalalalala"
Imbecile. Get your head out of your arse.
Your faith in science is excellent. However, you're basically saying it is somehow easier to collect a vastly dispersed gas rather than to stop producing it.
Climate control engineering is far far beyond human capacity in time to solve this. The things that are well within our power are utility-scale solar thermal power and electric automobiles. These simple, existing technologies are completely sufficient. They just need to be built. To do so will have far less risk and lower cost than fanciful planet-sized umbrellas and other science fiction dreamery.
More importantly, when someone builds them, you can believe it, unlike when someone tells you they are going to research climate control, "clean coal", or other distractions. Don't believe anything but real action.
Buy wind power (at a premium) RIGHT NOW. Contact your electricity provider and ensure they too are taking it seriously. You can act now. It's only 20% or so extra in Australia (and expect that gap to close with the Carbon Tax).
Or do nothing and be a pathetic loser.
PV is idiotic. Solar Thermal Power. Ausra do it all with simple pipes and reflective Mylar. Leave PV for satellites and interstellar probes where it was intended. If you install it on your roof, youre an idiot consumer contributing to the problem while you fantasize you're helping.
Yes, now add stuff up. Unless Japan and Germany and UK are Third World countries I haven't heard of, or unless you think that China is "Third World", how can you get 60% of that pie as "Third World"? Other than by lying to yourself.