Try the recently released alpha of firefox. They call it deer park. I have been using it at work to develop with and liked it. So tried it on my powerbook. Much better than the current firefox. Alot faster and better intergrated.
Is the one that makes it possible to mod the games and create your own games on the system. Now when I say this I don't mean directly on the console of course but on our own computers. It would extend the life of the system and the games on the system, plus we get to have arguebly even more fun than playing the same games over and over. A win for everyone.
Ah, I see. And having KMail take almost two minutes to load on a K6-2 400MHz machine with 384 MB of RAM under no other load besides X, Windowmaker and DFM is perfection?
Well there has to be something wrong on your system. One of my machines is a PII 350 with 128mb of ram and kmail pops right up. I have both mandrake 8.0 and win2k service pack 2 on that machine and I would have to say that linux with kde or gnome is faster than win2k and has a smoother user experience. oh and I am posting from opera also but that is only because I don't have galeon installed on this machine and I like tabs. Is there tabbed viewing for konquerer?
OpenBSD has more exploits because there is a bigger community than QNX so more are found. And the fact that the whole system is focused on security they tend to look harder. Just becuase exploits are not found does not mean they don't exist. And nother reason they are not found as much is OpenBSD is used in a server enviroment most of the time and QNX is targeted for the embedded enviroment and I believe they have a version for the desktop also. So just becuase a system has more exploits does not mean it is insecure it means that its users/developers are working to make sure it is as secure as it can be.
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Wow! yeah such a novel idea. Lets put all of are eggs in one basket and only use one language. Why has no one thought of that before. But really can that be a good idea? Maybe we should all switch to VB who needs anymore than that. Follow this guys plan and lets kill innovation.
I am sorry to sound so rude. But I have never heard of such a... Well, such a dumb idea.
Stupid people should just wear a sign then you would know not to depend on them.
Here's your sign
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I would have to agree language biggots suck. There is not ONE language. Every language has its place. But I don't know how asking the status of ruby in the open source community is being a language biggot.
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I would have to agree. With what you have said. I think I may be a little different though I love to learn new languages and I tend to use the best language for the job not what I learned first. Except for the whole english thing I always use english even though it may not be the best. But I mean how many programmers really talk to people if it was not for slashdot we would not need english damn you slashdot:-)
Maybe you should check it out again. The documentation is much better now and I'll bet you will see that it has came along since then. Mind you I didn't use it back then but I know that it for most things is now faster than python but still slower than perl.
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Some of you have made comments that a company would not want something this new or YOUR COMMENT HERE. Well, I agree for most situations it may not make since to use Ruby in the corporate world yet. It is pretty new and managers like something tried and true. And I see the point of not being able to find someone to update a program written in Ruby very easily yet. But I as the question stated I was asking you all as developers from the open source world not as code monkeys slaving away at work. I wanted to know more reasoning based on you and not that the suits would not approve. Right now for most businesses will stick with Perl, JSP or uck even VB or something I realize that. So I guess maybe I am asking in a more academic since.
Forgive my spelling
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Actually no my pet language is Perl. But Ruby is pretty cool and yes It being on slashdot would attract a little attention but how else will it be discovered.
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What I said was modified slightly. Here are some things you may want to know. I have been programming perl for many years and it is great. I have just been looking at Ruby lately and it has some great features. All of you that say OOP is bad have you used smalltalk or ruby? The way they handle it is great. In my opinion(remeber my opinion) OOP in java, c++, python is kind of clumsy and with perl I think creating classes is clumsy but I think using them is pretty slick. I think that OOP is handled pretty good in Ruby it is there but is not got the hack feel that say IMO java does. Mind you these are all good languages and have there place. I believe that every language has its place. And like mentioned before the more you learn and the more views you view programming from the better you will be. Also so you know I am a language whore I learn all that I can so I tend to play with a langauge before most people may even have heard of it. Now back to Ruby here is a link that has a great list of some of the coolest features of ruby. http://www.hypermetrics.com/ruby37.html
I know some say not another f*cking langauge. Well what I have to say to that is I am sure all people were saying that about C. They were probably like man what the hell is wrong with asm C is soooo slow. But now C is one of the top lanauges used today.
As you can tell I have a habit of just rambling on and not orginizing what I am saying oh well this is all just my 2 cents.
He does have a point. Even though he is being kind of a smartass:-) I do think that they are talking about compilers and interpreters not the language spec. I wonder what an open spec on a lagnuage would be like. I don't think it would work at all. I think we better just stick to open source compilers and interpreters.
They are bigger because they are much larger general purpose languages and not just for one thing. Rebols niche is clean networking as far as I can tell. closed and open source has nothing to do with any of it. I prefer a laguange to be open but I will use it if it is good if it is not. I wrote a full GUI based picture viewer organizer, slideshow thing in Perl/Tk and it runs on Linux(which I developed it on) and Windows without any changes. I have not tested on other systems but if they support perl/tk it should run. Both of them are open source
With java I mean the actual development time of the app not the speed that it runs on the server. Alot of times that is faster than perl or equal. I just meant the time it takes to develop a app in java is usually slower than in perl
Articles like this piss people off and make them prove the writer wrong. Which is good they get more done. This article even started to get me alittle perturbed.:-)
But, like posts before have said give linux on the desktop a few years. We have to play a little catch up before we kick ass. I also hope linux is never the only desktop/server/whatever OS becuase then were is the motivation. Also how are you suppose to make fun of companies like micro$oft if they aren't around;-) All I have to say is lets take it easy on the rest of the computer world don't totally murder them with our greatness.
But, my answer would be what do you know the best. Perl or ASP/VB. Now I personally do not use ASP/VB so I don't know but I just don't like the idea of a language that is not cross platform anyways. I think the development time of Perl would probably be the fastest. Along with Python or Ruby. Java would be slower along with VB. But I would tell him that you should stick to a cross platform language. I mean who knows when you could change to a Unix server.
I am a high school student and do contract perl/cgi programming among other things and I am yet to have someone not listen becuase of my age and they have trusted me with some major decisions. But it may just depend on the boss.
I know the subject is stupid. I had to say it I heard someone else say it today. Anyway I say if anyone has a patent for thumbnails it is the online porn industry. E-bay and all these companies trying to patent things like this...I mean...God damn they are so... Sorry I am at a lost of words. See u I am off to patent useing English on the web.
This is all my opinion and you may not agree.
I had not planned on buying Q3 Team arena anyway. I am sorry but I was dissapointed with Q3. (That may account for low sells. Q3 was just quake2 mulitplay with better graphics and higher system requirements) Also I wish they would quite saying linux sales were low. I am sure most desktop linux users bought Q3 just the windows version because the linux version was not avaible. I don't even own a windows system and I bought the windows versoin because it was at Best Buys and the linux versoni was not. Don't get me wrong I think Id supporting us is great. I am sorry but I think I will stick with UT. The weapon choices are alot better in my opion and it is just great.
just my $.02
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I bet the sys admin are not happy. I would think this could be a great security risk for them. A better way to do something like this would be in a controlled enviroment like a Wiki. go to http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/ to see what I mean. I think it is great but I don't know
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Try the recently released alpha of firefox. They call it deer park. I have been using it at work to develop with and liked it. So tried it on my powerbook. Much better than the current firefox. Alot faster and better intergrated.
Is the one that makes it possible to mod the games and create your own games on the system. Now when I say this I don't mean directly on the console of course but on our own computers. It would extend the life of the system and the games on the system, plus we get to have arguebly even more fun than playing the same games over and over. A win for everyone.
This post got marked as off topic but I believe for some reading this could be a good source of info.
my mod 1:Interesting
Do I need to say more. :-)
Ah, I see. And having KMail take almost two minutes to load on a K6-2 400MHz machine with 384 MB of RAM under no other load besides X, Windowmaker and DFM is perfection?
Well there has to be something wrong on your system. One of my machines is a PII 350 with 128mb of ram and kmail pops right up. I have both mandrake 8.0 and win2k service pack 2 on that machine and I would have to say that linux with kde or gnome is faster than win2k and has a smoother user experience. oh and I am posting from opera also but that is only because I don't have galeon installed on this machine and I like tabs. Is there tabbed viewing for konquerer?
OpenBSD has more exploits because there is a bigger community than QNX so more are found. And the fact that the whole system is focused on security they tend to look harder. Just becuase exploits are not found does not mean they don't exist. And nother reason they are not found as much is OpenBSD is used in a server enviroment most of the time and QNX is targeted for the embedded enviroment and I believe they have a version for the desktop also. So just becuase a system has more exploits does not mean it is insecure it means that its users/developers are working to make sure it is as secure as it can be.
Wow! yeah such a novel idea. Lets put all of are eggs in one basket and only use one language. Why has no one thought of that before. But really can that be a good idea? Maybe we should all switch to VB who needs anymore than that. Follow this guys plan and lets kill innovation.
I am sorry to sound so rude. But I have never heard of such a... Well, such a dumb idea.
Stupid people should just wear a sign then you would know not to depend on them.
Here's your sign
I would have to agree language biggots suck. There is not ONE language. Every language has its place. But I don't know how asking the status of ruby in the open source community is being a language biggot.
I would have to agree. With what you have said. I think I may be a little different though I love to learn new languages and I tend to use the best language for the job not what I learned first. Except for the whole english thing I always use english even though it may not be the best. But I mean how many programmers really talk to people if it was not for slashdot we would not need english damn you slashdot :-)
Maybe you should check it out again. The documentation is much better now and I'll bet you will see that it has came along since then. Mind you I didn't use it back then but I know that it for most things is now faster than python but still slower than perl.
Some of you have made comments that a company would not want something this new or YOUR COMMENT HERE. Well, I agree for most situations it may not make since to use Ruby in the corporate world yet. It is pretty new and managers like something tried and true. And I see the point of not being able to find someone to update a program written in Ruby very easily yet. But I as the question stated I was asking you all as developers from the open source world not as code monkeys slaving away at work. I wanted to know more reasoning based on you and not that the suits would not approve. Right now for most businesses will stick with Perl, JSP or uck even VB or something I realize that. So I guess maybe I am asking in a more academic since. Forgive my spelling
Actually no my pet language is Perl. But Ruby is pretty cool and yes It being on slashdot would attract a little attention but how else will it be discovered.
What I said was modified slightly. Here are some things you may want to know. I have been programming perl for many years and it is great. I have just been looking at Ruby lately and it has some great features. All of you that say OOP is bad have you used smalltalk or ruby? The way they handle it is great. In my opinion(remeber my opinion) OOP in java, c++, python is kind of clumsy and with perl I think creating classes is clumsy but I think using them is pretty slick. I think that OOP is handled pretty good in Ruby it is there but is not got the hack feel that say IMO java does. Mind you these are all good languages and have there place. I believe that every language has its place. And like mentioned before the more you learn and the more views you view programming from the better you will be. Also so you know I am a language whore I learn all that I can so I tend to play with a langauge before most people may even have heard of it. Now back to Ruby here is a link that has a great list of some of the coolest features of ruby. http://www.hypermetrics.com/ruby37.html
I know some say not another f*cking langauge. Well what I have to say to that is I am sure all people were saying that about C. They were probably like man what the hell is wrong with asm C is soooo slow. But now C is one of the top lanauges used today.
As you can tell I have a habit of just rambling on and not orginizing what I am saying oh well this is all just my 2 cents.
Learn everything you can.
Just my 2 cents
He does have a point. Even though he is being kind of a smartass :-) I do think that they are talking about compilers and interpreters not the language spec. I wonder what an open spec on a lagnuage would be like. I don't think it would work at all. I think we better just stick to open source compilers and interpreters.
Hmmm,
A thought Perl, Python, Ruby...
They are bigger because they are much larger general purpose languages and not just for one thing. Rebols niche is clean networking as far as I can tell. closed and open source has nothing to do with any of it. I prefer a laguange to be open but I will use it if it is good if it is not. I wrote a full GUI based picture viewer organizer, slideshow thing in Perl/Tk and it runs on Linux(which I developed it on) and Windows without any changes. I have not tested on other systems but if they support perl/tk it should run. Both of them are open source
With java I mean the actual development time of the app not the speed that it runs on the server. Alot of times that is faster than perl or equal. I just meant the time it takes to develop a app in java is usually slower than in perl
Articles like this piss people off and make them prove the writer wrong. Which is good they get more done. This article even started to get me alittle perturbed. :-)
;-) All I have to say is lets take it easy on the rest of the computer world don't totally murder them with our greatness.
But, like posts before have said give linux on the desktop a few years. We have to play a little catch up before we kick ass. I also hope linux is never the only desktop/server/whatever OS becuase then were is the motivation. Also how are you suppose to make fun of companies like micro$oft if they aren't around
It has not yet but it could very easily.
But, my answer would be what do you know the best. Perl or ASP/VB. Now I personally do not use ASP/VB so I don't know but I just don't like the idea of a language that is not cross platform anyways. I think the development time of Perl would probably be the fastest. Along with Python or Ruby. Java would be slower along with VB. But I would tell him that you should stick to a cross platform language. I mean who knows when you could change to a Unix server.
I am a high school student and do contract perl/cgi programming among other things and I am yet to have someone not listen becuase of my age and they have trusted me with some major decisions. But it may just depend on the boss.
:-P
Yes I know my spelling sucks
I know the subject is stupid. I had to say it I heard someone else say it today. Anyway I say if anyone has a patent for thumbnails it is the online porn industry. E-bay and all these companies trying to patent things like this...I mean...God damn they are so... Sorry I am at a lost of words. See u I am off to patent useing English on the web.
This is all my opinion and you may not agree. I had not planned on buying Q3 Team arena anyway. I am sorry but I was dissapointed with Q3. (That may account for low sells. Q3 was just quake2 mulitplay with better graphics and higher system requirements) Also I wish they would quite saying linux sales were low. I am sure most desktop linux users bought Q3 just the windows version because the linux version was not avaible. I don't even own a windows system and I bought the windows versoin because it was at Best Buys and the linux versoni was not. Don't get me wrong I think Id supporting us is great. I am sorry but I think I will stick with UT. The weapon choices are alot better in my opion and it is just great. just my $.02
I bet the sys admin are not happy. I would think this could be a great security risk for them. A better way to do something like this would be in a controlled enviroment like a Wiki. go to http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/ to see what I mean. I think it is great but I don't know