Then why did the RHEL4 product manager in NC tell me that when I was visiting from the UK last September?
He's wrong. The RHEL product manager doesn't speak for Fedora.
Also, how long is a Fedora setup supported for ? Not long enough to be useful for any real production work!
That depends on your needs. For folks who want 7 years of support, RHEL is a good choice. For folks who don't need that (or don't care about that), Fedora is perfectly capable of being a production environment, at least for a year.
I tried to address that myth -- the "Fedora is just a trial ground for RHEL" statement -- in the interview that I did *on this very site* a couple of months ago.
Rather than repeat a lot of that stuff here, I'll just post the link.
There are lots of folks out there who use Fedora as a production server. There are many other who choose to use RHEL, or CentOS. But just because there are multiple choices doesn't mean that each distribution has to be pigeon-holed into things that it "is for" or "is not for".
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Having suport inside of anaconda (the installer) for third party package repositories (like Fedora Extras) is one of the new features that I am most excited about.
Obviously the general case of that feature is that you can specify your own URL for external repositories -- be they livna, dag, or your own custom repo.
It's traditional for us to have some sort of "whimsical" or "funny" release announcement that accompanies all of the serious stuff. The full link to it is here:
Some people believe this because that is what they were personally told by the product manager for RHEL. No 'I heard it from my brother's cousin's aunt's neice'. I was personally told that by the RHEL product manager.
When was this? What was that RHEL product manager's name?
Ok, so they fine MSFT 2.5 million per day. When do they have to pay up? What entity is responsible for making sure that payments are made? What happens if MSFT doesn't pay?
Isn't FC intended as a test distro for new Red Hat stuff? I'm not a seasoned FC user but I've always thought FC releases were not first and foremost stable so much as innovative.
No, Fedora is not a test distro for Red Hat. Fedora is meant to be a robust and stable operating system. *Part* of what Fedora includes is some more "cutting edge" technology that will eventually become more mainstream, but it's incorrect to characterize Fedora as a "perpetual beta of RHEL" or anything like that.
Rawhide is a perpetual Beta. Fedora has high standards for stability and functionality.
In one sentence, it states that CentOS uses the "source packages published by Red Hat", and in the next sentence it says that RHEL is "distributed only in uncool binary form".
Taco writes:
"Just because you can take something, should you?"
Well, the prevailing mentality on/. is that since things like Gnutella and DeCSS give you the ability to do illegal actions like get MP3 files or decrypt DVD, you should use the ability and do so. In that case, if I have the ability to view the source of a web page that I like and take it, I should also do so. If I don't thank the artist of the MP3 that I take or the director of the DVD that I decrypt, I don't have to thank the author of the web site.
You can't have it both ways -- it can't be okay to take other people's music without paying and then get angry if someone takes your website.
What I fail to understand is why many/. readers cannot simply adopt this attitude:
"There are laws which prohibit me from doing certain things that I would like to do and that can be done by existing software. I dislike this, but I have enough respect for the law to obey it anyway."
You're not sacrificing your commitment to Open Source by purchasing a CD or a DVD player. It's okay. Really.
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Then why did the RHEL4 product manager in NC tell me that when I was visiting from the UK last September?
He's wrong. The RHEL product manager doesn't speak for Fedora.
Also, how long is a Fedora setup supported for ? Not long enough to be useful for any real production work!
That depends on your needs. For folks who want 7 years of support, RHEL is a good choice. For folks who don't need that (or don't care about that), Fedora is perfectly capable of being a production environment, at least for a year.
It'll work with updates too -- you just have to specify it manually like any other repo.
I tried to address that myth -- the "Fedora is just a trial ground for RHEL" statement -- in the interview that I did *on this very site* a couple of months ago.
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Rather than repeat a lot of that stuff here, I'll just post the link.
http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/
There are lots of folks out there who use Fedora as a production server. There are many other who choose to use RHEL, or CentOS. But just because there are multiple choices doesn't mean that each distribution has to be pigeon-holed into things that it "is for" or "is not for".
Having suport inside of anaconda (the installer) for third party package repositories (like Fedora Extras) is one of the new features that I am most excited about.
Obviously the general case of that feature is that you can specify your own URL for external repositories -- be they livna, dag, or your own custom repo.
It's traditional for us to have some sort of "whimsical" or "funny" release announcement that accompanies all of the serious stuff. The full link to it is here:
i st/2006-October/msg00008.html
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-l
No. The final tree for FC6 went Gold before the Firefox 2 release. I'm sure that you'll see it in rawhide before long, though.
We've got gnome 2.16 in the latest nightly buildes (rawhide) of Fedora Core 6, and it will ship in the final FC6 bits when we release in October
Some people believe this because that is what they were personally told by the product manager for RHEL. No 'I heard it from my brother's cousin's aunt's neice'. I was personally told that by the RHEL product manager.
When was this? What was that RHEL product manager's name?
Sorry, I already have some plans. Ask me again after fc6 comes out! :-)
Ok, so they fine MSFT 2.5 million per day. When do they have to pay up? What entity is responsible for making sure that payments are made? What happens if MSFT doesn't pay?
I'll believe it when I see it.
I don't know of a large company that still lets most employees install software, have admin rights, or do anything like that.
:-)
http://www.redhat.com/about/careers/
For the second year, the Fedora Project is participating in the Summer of Code as well.
See this page for more details.
Isn't FC intended as a test distro for new Red Hat stuff? I'm not a seasoned FC user but I've always thought FC releases were not first and foremost stable so much as innovative.
No, Fedora is not a test distro for Red Hat. Fedora is meant to be a robust and stable operating system. *Part* of what Fedora includes is some more "cutting edge" technology that will eventually become more mainstream, but it's incorrect to characterize Fedora as a "perpetual beta of RHEL" or anything like that.
Rawhide is a perpetual Beta. Fedora has high standards for stability and functionality.
For the sake of completeness, here is a link to the *full text* of the email that was sent to the fedora-lists with the Foundation announcement.
A pril/msg01022.html
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2006-
I must say, I believe that all of the comments attached to this story are above average! /ducks
Mod parent down.
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In one sentence, it states that CentOS uses the "source packages published by Red Hat", and in the next sentence it says that RHEL is "distributed only in uncool binary form".
The source code to RHEL is fully available.
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/
They hire lots of summer interns, but you have to know your stuff.
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"Just because you can take something, should you?"
Well, the prevailing mentality on /. is that since things like Gnutella and DeCSS give you the ability to do illegal actions like get MP3 files or decrypt DVD, you should use the ability and do so. In that case, if I have the ability to view the source of a web page that I like and take it, I should also do so. If I don't thank the artist of the MP3 that I take or the director of the DVD that I decrypt, I don't have to thank the author of the web site.
You can't have it both ways -- it can't be okay to take other people's music without paying and then get angry if someone takes your website.
What I fail to understand is why many /. readers cannot simply adopt this attitude:
"There are laws which prohibit me from doing certain things that I would like to do and that can be done by existing software. I dislike this, but I have enough respect for the law to obey it anyway."
You're not sacrificing your commitment to Open Source by purchasing a CD or a DVD player. It's okay. Really.
I got it off of scour.net, so if you're searching, you may want to check there.