Not likely to get much father either. This is a near field communication trick. The examples in the video have the antennas closer than the antenna length. Just use a wire instead.
This. Someone please mod AC parent up for this glaringly-obvious observation.
Actually, passive key cards do store the energy for later use.
"Later" happens to be measured in microseconds or so, but it's still later (much, much later in computer terms).
First, the antenna inside of the card is used with a rectifier and a capacitor to make DC voltage to power an IC from the RF energy radiated by the card reader. Once the voltage is high enough (which cannot occur instantaneously), that IC then uses the energy stored in its capacitor to send its ID string over the same antenna that was part of a power supply a brief moment earlier.
And like anything else RF, distance is largely a function of radiated power and receiver sensitivity. Cards and readers generally only work within a few inches merely because that was one of the design parameters, not because that is the maximum attainable using the technique:
Improve the performance of the card (more capacitance combined with a beefier RF section), and/or increase the sensitivity of the reader (using a higher-gain antenna and/or lower-noise electronics), and functional operating distance is increased accordingly.
On the phones I've used extensively (OG Droid, Droid 4) using the GPS kills the battery faster than playing games, watching movies, or doing anything else really. It pulls enough current that the battery gets hot, which makes even less energy available.
End result: OG Droid, with new and fully-charged battery: Dead in less than an hour with GPS being used, whether or not the display is on or the device is doing any other meaningful work.
If I'm running custom firmware that pushes the hardware beyond its specs then I would certainly expect the warranty to be voided.
It's a computer. It just runs software. That said "software" might happen to reside on a some manner of flash EEPROM instead of spinning rust does not change this relationship.
Remedies like replacement or repair are covered by warranty, just not for the particular defect that I myself caused.
Go read the warranty document again.
And "playing with software" doesn't invalidate the warranty. Which we both agree about.
(Yes, you can in theory brick a device by playing with software. I have at different times thought I've bricked my share of things, but I was always able to recover them, so they really weren't bricks after all. Defect thus eliminated, the warranty status is good.)
How can they tell that I'm texting, and not using my pocket computer ("phone") as a GPS? (I can, after all, legally use a GPS. Manually. While driving. As long as I'm an adult, and in Ohio, and there are no other laws restricting that.)
All they can see is that I'm thumb-fucking my phone. They can't tell what I'm doing with it. And I'm not going to admit to it (simply because I don't have to), nor am I going to let them search my pocket computer to see (simply because I don't have to).
With Ohio's recently-enacted law, it is specifically not permissible for an officer to peer into a vehicle just to ascertain whether or not a person is texting.
It is also not made specifically illegal (as in, it is allowed by default although other laws may modify it) for an adult (18+) to manually use GPS while driving, or to fumble with the device to turn on voice-activated texting, or to fumble with the device to turn on voice-activated GPS. It is also not made specifically illegal for a driver to use these voice activated features.
Even if I am futzing with my phone AND sending a text, it is impossible to prove without a warrant because of my inalienable Constitutional rights: "I do not consent to any searches."
Done.
So I still text with my phone in plain sight, with an eye on the road, just as I have since I discovered that SMS was useful. I do not participate in protracted conversations. It is just "At Beaverton, headed your way" sort of stuff -- done and over, and sending that message takes as long as it takes: If traffic demands my full attention, it probably won't get sent at all. If I'm on a rural road with great visibility in all directions and nothing around, it will probably be sent fairly quickly.
IF I am in an accident and phone records are pulled and devices are subpenaed and lawyers are involved, all I get is a additional small slap on the wrist.
The rest of the time, without such extenuating circumstances? The law has no teeth at all, despite a massive publicity campaign to the contrary: Even getting a small slap on the wrist for texting brazenly in traffic realistically means that either I've admitted to it or consented to a search or otherwise chosen to not exercise my Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination.
(I was hanging out on a balcony the other day, overlooking a fairly busy downtown road. Beneath me was a lady in an SUV with the sunroof open. She was staring straight down at her lap, busily thumb-fucking her phone with both hands. I've got a real problem with this way of conducting oneself in a 2-ton vehicle. But then, "distracted driving" covers this case far better than the recent Ohio law ever could. And if she knew her rights and understood the laws at play, she'd be far less distracted.)
(And all that said: I'm much more distracted by a pretty girl than a telephone. YMMV.)
(f) is important. Without it, condition (1) is without context or meaning.
(f) is as follows: defects or damage to the Warranted Product arising from or related to
So if the modification, alteration, tampering, repair, or servicing by other than NVIDIA or its authorized representatives causes defects or damage to arise, they're not going to cover your ass with a warranty repair on THOSE PARTICULAR defects or damage.
Please note that the paragraph you quoted doesn't even say I'm not allowed to physically repair the hardware itself, by myself. It just says that if a repair is carried out by other-than-NVIDIA-or-its-authorized-representatives, AND that repair causes other damage or defect, then I'm on your own WRT warranty coverage OF THOSE DEFECTS. It also says, through implication, that if NVIDIA-or-its-authorized-representatives conduct a repair and damage or defect arises, then they will be responsible to fix the additional damage that they caused.
In other news, I'm allowed to replace the spark plugs on my car without voiding the engine warranty. I can even do it myself, in my driveway, using third-party parts. But if my replacement plugs cause detonation and piston damage, then that's my own stupid fault for buying the wrong plugs and BMW isn't going to pay to fix it. (Incidentally, my BMW came with the tools needed to change spark plugs and perform other routine maintenance.)
This is exactly what the sections about tie-in sales are about when it comes to the Warranty Act: You're allowed to do what you want with your stuff. But if you fuck with it AND in the process you break it, you're SOL for that breakage or defect. But even then, the impetus is still on the warrantor to show that the end-user fuckery caused the breakage: That it is merely broken is insufficient, even per NVIDIA's own terms.
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But nevermind that. Let's say that the theory you concoct by cherry-picking strings of words is correct. I can play that game, too:
NVIDIA will have no warranty obligation with respect to the following: [...] (4) third party software
Oh well. So much for running games on the silly thing, right? Install third-party software and BAM! Warranty gone! (At least it's a very pretty paperweight.)
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May I kindly suggest that you try reading the entire document before declaring that you have any idea what it means? This isn't the sort of thing that you can understand from the highlight reel: It was, after all, written by a lawyer (probably a whole fleet of them).
No, I'm going pretty far to assert that there is not, and is unlikely to be, a water shortage in my town.
I will further reiterate that we had plenty of water during the last severe drought, which was in 1988, wherein "water rationing" consisted of: Don't water your lawn during the day (but at night is OK).
It was quite a thing: Very thirsty trees trees falling over in the wind, crops failed, small fires happening in the most unusual ways, the river went dry, etc.
But a shortage of potable water? No, not really. Not one of any particular magnitude or meritous of any significant rationing.
Good! You considered the MMWA. We can discuss this.
Now can you quote for me the line in the Shield's limited warranty where it is conspicuously written that installing software on the device voids said warranty?
The big cities near here are either on massive freshwater lakes, or situated along large rivers that are prone to flooding and almost never run dry, while also having their own huge reservoirs to pick up the slack.
This isn't LA, nor is it Death Valley. Some places have warm weather most of the time and plenty sunshine and very little precipitation; we have cold snowy winters and plenty of water.
Of course, it didn't used to be this way: We used to have entirely too much water. Not so long ago in the greater history of things, this was all swampland. Draining it was initially quite an undertaking, as I understand it, and fight to get rid of excess water hasn't ceased since.
Seriously. You can talk all you want, but you won't make believe that I, personally, live in an area with an impending water shortage. (We do have a water problem here, and that is only that we have way too much of it.)
How about a computer analogy? I can hose up the configuration on my new Dell desktop and make it unbootable.
But they still get to replace a dead power supply or a hard drive under warranty, no matter what software I'm using or how poorly that software works, unless they can prove that the software caused the particular defect that I am complaining about.
I can also install Kingston RAM in that computer without affecting the status of the warranty. Or a different video card. Or, you know, whatever.
Same with cars. I can buy new tires wherever I want to and have them installed by any competent shop without affecting my car's warranty. I can replace light bulbs myself using aftermarket bulbs.
Now, obviously: If my replacement tires are ridiculously out-of-round and unbalanced, the manufacturer may have a good chance at avoiding replacing my shock absorbers and ball joints under warranty, but they're still going to have to cover the vehicle's paint and the engine parts and [...].
If my aftermarket light bulb can be shown to have caused the wiring harness to catch fire whereas an OEM bulb would not, that repair is almost certainly not going to be covered under warranty.
But back to computers: I can most assuredly run whatever software I want to on my computer, whether it be a desktop, a tablet, or a pocket Android gaming rig.
Again, and again, and again: Unless my software actually breaks the hardware. And in that event it is on them to show that my software has physically damaged the device, and even if they do show that then the rest of the warranty is still intact.
If the backlight goes wonky on the LCD screen, it doesn't matter if the device is happens to be rooted and jailbroken and is in the midst of Deep Hacking on bootloader code, they still get to fix the wonky backlight under warranty so I can go back to coding up my bootloader.
Though, quite obviously: While they're fixing that wonky backlight, one thing they don't have to do is fix the bootloader (software) problem that I created for myself, just as Dell doesn't have to fix a botched FreeBSD installation. (duh.)
Seriously. Stop saying that playing with software somehow invalidates a warranty on the hardware. That is simply not how things work in the Unites States, so please just STOP SAYING THAT.
(All replies not taking the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act into consideration will be cheerfully ignored under the presumption of idiocy on the part of the respondent.)
We've got more trouble with massive flooding, than we do with droughts requiring water restrictions (the last serious drought was 25 years ago, and it was so not-serious that it was only advised that folks not water their lawns -- all other uses were A-OK). Things haven't really changed much since then.
I don't really care about the California Aqueduct. That's their problem.
I'm going to keep flushing my shit down the toilet with clean potable water, and that shitified clean water is going to be treated and put back into the same river it came from, where it will help the town downstream flush their own shit down their own toilets with their own potable water from the same river.
And I'm going to look at my water bill and go "Gosh, that's perfectly reasonable," just like I always have.
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Hey Crazy Internet Person,
I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
This. Someone please mod AC parent up for this glaringly-obvious observation.
Actually, passive key cards do store the energy for later use.
"Later" happens to be measured in microseconds or so, but it's still later (much, much later in computer terms).
First, the antenna inside of the card is used with a rectifier and a capacitor to make DC voltage to power an IC from the RF energy radiated by the card reader. Once the voltage is high enough (which cannot occur instantaneously), that IC then uses the energy stored in its capacitor to send its ID string over the same antenna that was part of a power supply a brief moment earlier.
And like anything else RF, distance is largely a function of radiated power and receiver sensitivity. Cards and readers generally only work within a few inches merely because that was one of the design parameters, not because that is the maximum attainable using the technique:
Improve the performance of the card (more capacitance combined with a beefier RF section), and/or increase the sensitivity of the reader (using a higher-gain antenna and/or lower-noise electronics), and functional operating distance is increased accordingly.
"On" and "being used" are two different things.
On the phones I've used extensively (OG Droid, Droid 4) using the GPS kills the battery faster than playing games, watching movies, or doing anything else really. It pulls enough current that the battery gets hot, which makes even less energy available.
End result: OG Droid, with new and fully-charged battery: Dead in less than an hour with GPS being used, whether or not the display is on or the device is doing any other meaningful work.
It's a computer. It just runs software. That said "software" might happen to reside on a some manner of flash EEPROM instead of spinning rust does not change this relationship.
Hey coward: Why do you mark me as Foe? Why don't you just tell me where you live? I'm not asking for much, am I?
(Unless I am, in which case you are just another asshole on the Internet...)
Remedies like replacement or repair are covered by warranty, just not for the particular defect that I myself caused.
Go read the warranty document again.
And "playing with software" doesn't invalidate the warranty. Which we both agree about.
(Yes, you can in theory brick a device by playing with software. I have at different times thought I've bricked my share of things, but I was always able to recover them, so they really weren't bricks after all. Defect thus eliminated, the warranty status is good.)
You're missing the point.
How can they tell that I'm texting, and not using my pocket computer ("phone") as a GPS? (I can, after all, legally use a GPS. Manually. While driving. As long as I'm an adult, and in Ohio, and there are no other laws restricting that.)
All they can see is that I'm thumb-fucking my phone. They can't tell what I'm doing with it. And I'm not going to admit to it (simply because I don't have to), nor am I going to let them search my pocket computer to see (simply because I don't have to).
Hence, no teeth.
No, it probably didn't.
And you do care: When EVGA replaced your board for you, were you either happy or unhappy with the outcome?
Geez, Bill. Are we discussing vapid implications of stuff read between the lines, or just digesting written English?
Let me know what the rules are.
I think I'm with you on this one.
With Ohio's recently-enacted law, it is specifically not permissible for an officer to peer into a vehicle just to ascertain whether or not a person is texting.
It is also not made specifically illegal (as in, it is allowed by default although other laws may modify it) for an adult (18+) to manually use GPS while driving, or to fumble with the device to turn on voice-activated texting, or to fumble with the device to turn on voice-activated GPS. It is also not made specifically illegal for a driver to use these voice activated features.
Even if I am futzing with my phone AND sending a text, it is impossible to prove without a warrant because of my inalienable Constitutional rights: "I do not consent to any searches."
Done.
So I still text with my phone in plain sight, with an eye on the road, just as I have since I discovered that SMS was useful. I do not participate in protracted conversations. It is just "At Beaverton, headed your way" sort of stuff -- done and over, and sending that message takes as long as it takes: If traffic demands my full attention, it probably won't get sent at all. If I'm on a rural road with great visibility in all directions and nothing around, it will probably be sent fairly quickly.
IF I am in an accident and phone records are pulled and devices are subpenaed and lawyers are involved, all I get is a additional small slap on the wrist.
The rest of the time, without such extenuating circumstances? The law has no teeth at all, despite a massive publicity campaign to the contrary: Even getting a small slap on the wrist for texting brazenly in traffic realistically means that either I've admitted to it or consented to a search or otherwise chosen to not exercise my Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination.
(I was hanging out on a balcony the other day, overlooking a fairly busy downtown road. Beneath me was a lady in an SUV with the sunroof open. She was staring straight down at her lap, busily thumb-fucking her phone with both hands. I've got a real problem with this way of conducting oneself in a 2-ton vehicle. But then, "distracted driving" covers this case far better than the recent Ohio law ever could. And if she knew her rights and understood the laws at play, she'd be far less distracted.)
(And all that said: I'm much more distracted by a pretty girl than a telephone. YMMV.)
And in case I didn't make it clear: There is no verbiage there which allows a single insular act to void, carte blanche, the entire warranty.
Even if I toss my SHIELD into a fire, I still have a limited warranty on the charging adapter.
(f) is important. Without it, condition (1) is without context or meaning.
(f) is as follows: defects or damage to the Warranted Product arising from or related to
So if the modification, alteration, tampering, repair, or servicing by other than NVIDIA or its authorized representatives causes defects or damage to arise, they're not going to cover your ass with a warranty repair on THOSE PARTICULAR defects or damage.
Please note that the paragraph you quoted doesn't even say I'm not allowed to physically repair the hardware itself, by myself. It just says that if a repair is carried out by other-than-NVIDIA-or-its-authorized-representatives, AND that repair causes other damage or defect, then I'm on your own WRT warranty coverage OF THOSE DEFECTS. It also says, through implication, that if NVIDIA-or-its-authorized-representatives conduct a repair and damage or defect arises, then they will be responsible to fix the additional damage that they caused.
In other news, I'm allowed to replace the spark plugs on my car without voiding the engine warranty. I can even do it myself, in my driveway, using third-party parts. But if my replacement plugs cause detonation and piston damage, then that's my own stupid fault for buying the wrong plugs and BMW isn't going to pay to fix it. (Incidentally, my BMW came with the tools needed to change spark plugs and perform other routine maintenance.)
This is exactly what the sections about tie-in sales are about when it comes to the Warranty Act: You're allowed to do what you want with your stuff. But if you fuck with it AND in the process you break it, you're SOL for that breakage or defect. But even then, the impetus is still on the warrantor to show that the end-user fuckery caused the breakage: That it is merely broken is insufficient, even per NVIDIA's own terms.
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But nevermind that. Let's say that the theory you concoct by cherry-picking strings of words is correct. I can play that game, too:
Oh well. So much for running games on the silly thing, right? Install third-party software and BAM! Warranty gone! (At least it's a very pretty paperweight.)
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May I kindly suggest that you try reading the entire document before declaring that you have any idea what it means? This isn't the sort of thing that you can understand from the highlight reel: It was, after all, written by a lawyer (probably a whole fleet of them).
Hey Crazy Internet Person.
You know we can't continue to berate eachother unless you tell me where you live.
So why won't you tell me?
I want to know more about the arsenic levels in your crazy self-invented town's water.
Why won't you tell me where you live, Crazy Internet Person?
Why don't you tell me where you live, Crazy Internet Person?
No, I'm going pretty far to assert that there is not, and is unlikely to be, a water shortage in my town.
I will further reiterate that we had plenty of water during the last severe drought, which was in 1988, wherein "water rationing" consisted of: Don't water your lawn during the day (but at night is OK).
It was quite a thing: Very thirsty trees trees falling over in the wind, crops failed, small fires happening in the most unusual ways, the river went dry, etc.
But a shortage of potable water? No, not really. Not one of any particular magnitude or meritous of any significant rationing.
Nor does it cover replacing the screen after it has been used as a hammer.
So what?
Good! You considered the MMWA. We can discuss this.
Now can you quote for me the line in the Shield's limited warranty where it is conspicuously written that installing software on the device voids said warranty?
The big cities near here are either on massive freshwater lakes, or situated along large rivers that are prone to flooding and almost never run dry, while also having their own huge reservoirs to pick up the slack.
This isn't LA, nor is it Death Valley. Some places have warm weather most of the time and plenty sunshine and very little precipitation; we have cold snowy winters and plenty of water.
Of course, it didn't used to be this way: We used to have entirely too much water. Not so long ago in the greater history of things, this was all swampland. Draining it was initially quite an undertaking, as I understand it, and fight to get rid of excess water hasn't ceased since.
Seriously. You can talk all you want, but you won't make believe that I, personally, live in an area with an impending water shortage. (We do have a water problem here, and that is only that we have way too much of it.)
How about a computer analogy? I can hose up the configuration on my new Dell desktop and make it unbootable.
But they still get to replace a dead power supply or a hard drive under warranty, no matter what software I'm using or how poorly that software works, unless they can prove that the software caused the particular defect that I am complaining about.
I can also install Kingston RAM in that computer without affecting the status of the warranty. Or a different video card. Or, you know, whatever.
Same with cars. I can buy new tires wherever I want to and have them installed by any competent shop without affecting my car's warranty. I can replace light bulbs myself using aftermarket bulbs.
Now, obviously: If my replacement tires are ridiculously out-of-round and unbalanced, the manufacturer may have a good chance at avoiding replacing my shock absorbers and ball joints under warranty, but they're still going to have to cover the vehicle's paint and the engine parts and [...].
If my aftermarket light bulb can be shown to have caused the wiring harness to catch fire whereas an OEM bulb would not, that repair is almost certainly not going to be covered under warranty.
But back to computers: I can most assuredly run whatever software I want to on my computer, whether it be a desktop, a tablet, or a pocket Android gaming rig.
Again, and again, and again: Unless my software actually breaks the hardware. And in that event it is on them to show that my software has physically damaged the device, and even if they do show that then the rest of the warranty is still intact.
If the backlight goes wonky on the LCD screen, it doesn't matter if the device is happens to be rooted and jailbroken and is in the midst of Deep Hacking on bootloader code, they still get to fix the wonky backlight under warranty so I can go back to coding up my bootloader.
Though, quite obviously: While they're fixing that wonky backlight, one thing they don't have to do is fix the bootloader (software) problem that I created for myself, just as Dell doesn't have to fix a botched FreeBSD installation. (duh.)
Yes, they disclosed all kinds of stuff that they say that they will not cover under the warranty.
Tell me, Bill: Which one of those terms voids the warranty by using different software? I don't see it.
Eh?
From your own posting:
I ain't no warrantor. I'm a just a consumer. That duty is theirs, not mine.
Seriously. Stop saying that playing with software somehow invalidates a warranty on the hardware. That is simply not how things work in the Unites States, so please just STOP SAYING THAT.
(All replies not taking the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act into consideration will be cheerfully ignored under the presumption of idiocy on the part of the respondent.)
Talk talk talk.
We've got more trouble with massive flooding, than we do with droughts requiring water restrictions (the last serious drought was 25 years ago, and it was so not-serious that it was only advised that folks not water their lawns -- all other uses were A-OK). Things haven't really changed much since then.
I don't really care about the California Aqueduct. That's their problem.
I'm going to keep flushing my shit down the toilet with clean potable water, and that shitified clean water is going to be treated and put back into the same river it came from, where it will help the town downstream flush their own shit down their own toilets with their own potable water from the same river.
And I'm going to look at my water bill and go "Gosh, that's perfectly reasonable," just like I always have.