Didn't you ever read The Mythical Man Month? Adding more people to a project does not necessarily speed it up. Sometimes it even slows it down. Yes, more people doing code audits could audit more packages separately, but you have to take the time to train them all too.
They're probably trying to capture market share, and put a dent in linux which has sun scared right now
Why would Sun be scared of Linux? Sun is a hardware company, Linux is software. It's not like Sun makes any money on Solaris itself. Why should they care what OS you run on their computer so long as you're still buying hardware from them...
Mark Rasch is not a lawyer. He's a computer security consultant (last I heard for SAIC). He's in the business selling security products, so of course he's going to talk about how this new product is bad/evil/wrong. If it was legal and good he would be out of a job. (Please note, I'm not saying I think it's a good thing, I'm just showing where his motivation may lie.)
Well, anybody who's geeky enough to memorize the entire DeCSS source code and like the movie Battlefield Earth, probably isn't going to mating anytime soon, so that problem should be corrected in a generation or so.
You know its bad when the people with all the money are the ones making and influencing the rules.
Ah yes. Because today the rich are in charge, as opposed to all of the previous great eras when all of the people of the world controlled everyth-- Hey! Wait a minute! [The rest of this sarcasm is left as an exercise to the trol^H^H^H^H reader.]
that only becomes an issue when the code is "distributed" to others. They can develop and use it
internally, but have to make the source available to anyone who they sell or license the software to.
Exactly. The Army wants to use it for an internal Army system. Not to sell/distribute to another organization. They can do whatever they want with it internally. End of story.
Exactly! What good is a cryptosystem that you can only make telephone calls with? That is, because this stream of random bits is too big to store, whomever you're talking to has to be listening to the stream EXACTLY when you're sending your message, otherwise it's "gone forever." So if we're not on the phone, this thing sounds pretty useless.
This is so lucid it's hard to describe. Sort of like the first person to develop "a car" calling their brand name "car" and forcing everybody else to sell "automotive conveyances."
Let me take a drink from my Thermos and then I'll explain it to you. Oh wait! "Thermos" is actually a registered trademark. It's just a brand of vaccuum bottle. But sometimes a brand name (like Coke or SSH) just becomes synoymous (sp?) with the product, no matter who makes it.
On the contrary. Napigator is a nifty little freeware tool that lets the Napster client program use other Napster servers. The OpenNap network is huge and not going anywhere anytime soon...
I never said we should. Personally, I think the protocol should get the short, easy name, ssh (like FTP or HTTP) and the implementations should build on those (e.g. OpenSSH, TrademarkedSSH, SSHisCool, etc)
Actually, I find this all rather interesting. I'm no newbie, but I thought that SSH was just the name of the protocol (like FTP or HTTP), and that OpenSSH was just one of the implementations (like WuFTP or Apache Web Server). I can understand his point completely because there is some confusion. (Maybe he should name his project something other than the name of the protocol to avoid real confusion? RealSSH perhaps?)
No, ssh isn't a shell. It follows the same style of namiung as the old rsh program, which stood for "remote sh". (Where/bin/sh was one of the earlier shells used.) The idea being that ssh offers a secure alternative to the old, crufty, original rsh. Secure shell is just easier to say than "secure sh," (and probably more accurate as very few people still use/bin/sh for their default shell).
It's a matter of, "we could leave this floating in space forever, or we could try
this one last thing before we abandon it." I have to give them credit; they've done some pretty cool things with spacecraft that
weren't meant to do them.
Which makes another interesting point. When you try to make a device that does everything all at once, it doesn't do anything particularly well. But if you make a device that does just a few tasks, the ingenuity of the human mind can find lots of amazing ways to use it. KISS
Maybe the above should be required reading for the people talking about the Open GroupWare project...
Exactly! The people in my office, are not computer people. They don't want to have to learn new commands, they just want to -click- have e-mail and calendars and stuff. This is exactly why GUIs are cool. They let people who think visually (e.g. non-computer people) use computers...
people can't be bothered to set there security
settings
Yes, but any decently written program should be secure (i.e. non-functional) by default. That way, users that can't be bothered to mess with their settings aren't going to be victims. Remember, you have to start the car yourself before you go driving.
MIT alumni have e-mail forwarding for life if they desire http://web.mit.edu/alum, so having your e-mail come from mit.edu is not necessarily a sign of change. (And now you MIT people can remind everybody forever that you're just so cool...)
Although stenography does make it harder for sniffers to work as well. If you had unzip every message it would certainly raise the bar on how much work the sniffer had to do.
Nah, it's just a government conspiracy to find out where all of the kooks, privacy nuts, and evil encryption people live so that they can-- OH NO THEY FOUND ME! HELP! HELP! HEL^&@GN!hj3
If you make under $25,000 a year you shouldn't be fiddling around in websites trying to find a way to figure your taxes electronically for free. You should be using your time to scan help wanted ads and update your resume.
American citizens living abroad still have to pay US taxes. You'd be amazed how far $25,000 US can go in other countries.
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The phrase you're looking for, "intelligent, but as of yet uniformed, individuals"
Didn't you ever read The Mythical Man Month? Adding more people to a project does not necessarily speed it up. Sometimes it even slows it down. Yes, more people doing code audits could audit more packages separately, but you have to take the time to train them all too.
Why would Sun be scared of Linux? Sun is a hardware company, Linux is software. It's not like Sun makes any money on Solaris itself. Why should they care what OS you run on their computer so long as you're still buying hardware from them...
Mark Rasch is not a lawyer. He's a computer security consultant (last I heard for SAIC). He's in the business selling security products, so of course he's going to talk about how this new product is bad/evil/wrong. If it was legal and good he would be out of a job. (Please note, I'm not saying I think it's a good thing, I'm just showing where his motivation may lie.)
Well, anybody who's geeky enough to memorize the entire DeCSS source code and like the movie Battlefield Earth, probably isn't going to mating anytime soon, so that problem should be corrected in a generation or so.
Ah yes. Because today the rich are in charge, as opposed to all of the previous great eras when all of the people of the world controlled everyth-- Hey! Wait a minute! [The rest of this sarcasm is left as an exercise to the trol^H^H^H^H reader.]
Exactly. The Army wants to use it for an internal Army system. Not to sell/distribute to another organization. They can do whatever they want with it internally. End of story.
Exactly! What good is a cryptosystem that you can only make telephone calls with? That is, because this stream of random bits is too big to store, whomever you're talking to has to be listening to the stream EXACTLY when you're sending your message, otherwise it's "gone forever." So if we're not on the phone, this thing sounds pretty useless.
I would say use SSH to connect to your home box, but then you might be opening yourself to up legal action...
IANAL(tm) <-- I should...
Let me take a drink from my Thermos and then I'll explain it to you. Oh wait! "Thermos" is actually a registered trademark. It's just a brand of vaccuum bottle. But sometimes a brand name (like Coke or SSH) just becomes synoymous (sp?) with the product, no matter who makes it.
On the contrary. Napigator is a nifty little freeware tool that lets the Napster client program use other Napster servers. The OpenNap network is huge and not going anywhere anytime soon...
I never said we should. Personally, I think the protocol should get the short, easy name, ssh (like FTP or HTTP) and the implementations should build on those (e.g. OpenSSH, TrademarkedSSH, SSHisCool, etc)
Actually, I find this all rather interesting. I'm no newbie, but I thought that SSH was just the name of the protocol (like FTP or HTTP), and that OpenSSH was just one of the implementations (like WuFTP or Apache Web Server). I can understand his point completely because there is some confusion. (Maybe he should name his project something other than the name of the protocol to avoid real confusion? RealSSH perhaps?)
No, ssh isn't a shell. It follows the same style of namiung as the old rsh program, which stood for "remote sh". (Where /bin/sh was one of the earlier shells used.) The idea being that ssh offers a secure alternative to the old, crufty, original rsh. Secure shell is just easier to say than "secure sh," (and probably more accurate as very few people still use /bin/sh for their default shell).
Which makes another interesting point. When you try to make a device that does everything all at once, it doesn't do anything particularly well. But if you make a device that does just a few tasks, the ingenuity of the human mind can find lots of amazing ways to use it. KISS
Maybe the above should be required reading for the people talking about the Open GroupWare project...
Exactly! The people in my office, are not computer people. They don't want to have to learn new commands, they just want to -click- have e-mail and calendars and stuff. This is exactly why GUIs are cool. They let people who think visually (e.g. non-computer people) use computers...
Yes, but any decently written program should be secure (i.e. non-functional) by default. That way, users that can't be bothered to mess with their settings aren't going to be victims. Remember, you have to start the car yourself before you go driving.
Could the WIPO Decisions be generated by a magic 8 ball? If we get back a decision that says, "Try again later", I'm outta here.
MIT alumni have e-mail forwarding for life if they desire http://web.mit.edu/alum, so having your e-mail come from mit.edu is not necessarily a sign of change. (And now you MIT people can remind everybody forever that you're just so cool...)
ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EROS. ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE. USE THEM TOGETHER, USE THEM IN PEACE.
Maybe SETI has been approaching this all wrong?
Although stenography does make it harder for sniffers to work as well. If you had unzip every message it would certainly raise the bar on how much work the sniffer had to do.
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