There will always be desktop/notebook computers in use as we see them today (well, for the foreseeable future anyway.) They offer power and flexibility that can't be matched by embedded devices. However, with the miniaturization of components, more embedded devices are on their way. The market for personal computers has peaked in developed countries and will not grow nearly as fast.
Apple isn't getting out of computing - they're jumping into emerging markets. Being in multiple markets is healthy for a large corporation - so long as those markets are complementary. Expertise gained from one market can be applied to other markets thereby providing a competitive advantage. What you see now is Apple expanding into new markets that complement their existing business. The cool GUI on the iPhone is a direct result of R&D spent on OSX.
Note that it is important for Apple to not expand into markets that do not complement their existing business. Do that and you soon become like Sony. How long did it take Sony to adopt mp3s? - No thanks to their recording label...
I'm a latex junkie. Latex though is a PITA to create templates and styles for. Someone willing to take up the task to modernize latex or completely replace it?
Please stop pinning cops as assholes on a power trip. Maybe some of them are that way because they never get any respect, even when they are trying to help.
Police officers are human, and as such, can be both good and bad. Unfortunately there are a couple of reasons why officers are likely to be more bad then good.
Bad surroundings. When someone spends all day dealing with the scum of society they end up generalizing the general population as scum. I've been treated like crap more then once simply because I don't wear expensive cloths or cut my hair on a regular basis.
Power corrupts. It's not as bad as many make it sound but being in a position of power eventually leads to a superiority complex.
Of course, if an officer knows you (like your friend) they will treat you great. The problem is when you're a stranger.
They don't have to be efficient. The wasted heat is used in the building so there is effectively no waste. Any electricity generated is just an added bonus.
Large thermoelectric plants are ~40% efficient. A burner heats water, the steam passes over a turbine (connected to a generator), the steam is then condensed (where all the energy is lost) and pumped back into the water tank so it can be heated again.
My suggested idea would, most likely, use an internal combustion engine at ~25% efficiency. But even at a lower efficiency it is still more efficient then just burning gas at 0%. (Note that the efficiency ratings are for electricity production.)
Producing electricity from a heat source (gas, coal, nuclear) is wasteful - typically only ~40% efficient. So in order to maximize our use of resources we should make use of that wasted heat. Pumping the heat (via water) to neighboring houses and greenhouses is just one example that is commonly used in Europe.
But this brings up another idea. Why not do away with burning fuels for heat. Large building could instead burn fuels to generate electricity and use the waste heat as their heat source. Extra electricity could be sent to the grid at nearly 95% efficiency. I say 95% efficiency because almost all the the energy released by the burning fuel is put to work.
In warmer climates this approach would be less useful, but it would still be effective for heating water. An entire block of building could get together and share a single generator/hot water heater.
Anyway, this is just a thought resulting from seeing large buildings in cold weather being heated via natural gas while knowing that the electricity powering the building was only 40% efficient.
When streaming media, you do not want to segment the media file and then send it in a random order. If you do, you can't view it until it has completely finished downloading. A better solution is to send segments sequentially - this allows the media to be viewed shortly after the download is started. This is one of the reasons why I love usenet over p2p solutions for downloading media.
There is no way Apple will go the p2p route. When a user selects a video it should start playing in under a minute. Anything more and the device won't sell. Bitorrent just doesn't cut it.
I just read this the other day (cnn.com). Personally I was surprised that Mexico exported so much oil, but I'm not surprised about Canada. Funny thing is much of that oil gets sent to the States for refinement and then is sent back to Canada.
I agree with what you have written but just wanted to add a point.
The power consumption of SRAM is actually increasing to the point where it doesn't offer any real benefits over DRAM. The problem arises from smaller transistors with greater leakage current. Older SRAM could sit there and draw almost no power - but no longer. Because SRAM requires more transistors then DRAM, the leakage current essentially offsets the power used during the refresh cycle on DRAM.
Now I'm not claiming that DRAM currently uses less power then SRAM. I'm just saying that with modern manufacturing technologies, the old assumption that SRAM uses less power then DRAM is no longer valid. I imagine IBM saw this coming a long time ago and is partly why they invested in finding ways to put DRAM into CPUs.
Canada is more socialist than the US, and Canadians generate more greenhouse gas than Americans do. Is it because of socialism? No, it's because it's colder and not as densely populated.
Partly, but mainly it's because Canada produces more natural resources per capita. Be it mining or forestry, harvesting those resources consumes a lot of energy. I believe it's a 60/40 split when comparing industrial/residential energy usage.
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO PRO APPLE? ARE YOU THAT FUCKING STUPID? Pro-linux I get, it's all about philosophy, but pro-apple, pro-microsoft, pro-nintendo, pro-proctor-and-gamble, I don't get - unless you're an employee or stockholder.
People are pro ---- because they found a product/company that they are happy with. They found something that makes their life better and are publicly stating this fact so that others may also benefit from the product/company. It doesn't matter what product or service they are talking about, the reasons are generally the same. The same applies when people are anti ----, just for different reasons. They got screwed over by a product/service and they are spreading the word so that others can avoid making the same mistakes that they made. It's basic human nature. Come to think of it, ants do the same thing.;)
Do you realize how much it would suck if Apple completely took over the desktop market?
I agree with you completely and don't think anyone wants Apple to dominate the desktop market. But wouldn't it be great if they had a 20% market share? Now developers will think more about cross-platform compatibility. This would benefit everyone (Mac, Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD, - but not Microsoft).
I won't buy a Mac, ever. Quit trying to sell me one. I have no problems using a PC, and would rather keep my cash. I have no problems if you like your Mac, but seriously, GET OVER IT. It's really not that amazing or impressive to me.
Nobody is trying to make you buy a Mac - well, except maybe Apple. If you're happy then that's great. Personally, I'm hesitant recommending a Mac to most people for fear there is an application they can no longer run. But for certain people a Mac makes a lot of sense.
What people are trying to tell you is that, if you have the opportunity, you should give MacOS a try. And it takes more then a day so give it a couple of months. You will either think it is a waste of money and stick with Windows or you will have found a better way to get your work done. Either way, you would come out knowing more then when you started. People might not agree with your choice, but they will respect it.
I do wish there was an easier way to universally access all menus on OSX from the keyboard, the way that Alt does on Windows (there is keyboard access, but it's nowhere near as straightforward), but beyond that I've found the Mac to be ridiculously powerful in terms of keyboard use, even before I found QS.
There is an easy way. To move the focus to the menu bar press ^F2 (ctrl-F2). From there the arrow keys can be used to navigate the menus. The shortcut can be changed via System Preferences - other shortcuts are also listed there so check it out.
Now increase the speed of the moped threehundred fold (and its energy almost a hundred thousand fold). Think that will work? No? Bingo. You wouldn't even change the orbit measurably if it flew past a just centimeter from your magnet.
I agree. I had envisioned an autonomous satellite that would synchronize its orbit with whatever junk is to be removed then apply a magnetic field so that the object would drop out of orbit. The benefit of this is that you wouldn't have to setup a collision to remove objects - you would just have to get close (wrt proximity and velocity). Of course, this is all a bit futile if carbon fiber and Al make up a significant portion of the junk up there.
In all honesty, I know nothing of this field so anything I have to say is simply speculation and should be treated as such. For example, after reading your reply I'm beginning to think that an autonomous satellite that lays a field of gas in front of oncoming objects might be a better approach. But running out of gas would be a problem. Or how about positioning a mobile mass large enough to absorb the impact from any orbiting junk? Simple, crude, but effective.
(QuickTime's file format may or may not be patented, but I'd guess it is).
I'm sure the file format is patented, but it's also an open format. They offer licenses to anyone who wants to use it. The license is a simple - "We're not liable for damages..." type of license. It's a whole 8 page PDF and is available here. I should also note that Apple has some open source projects that utilize this standard. Most notably, the quicktime streaming server. The FFmpeg project also supports the.mov file format without any legal action from Apple.
It the.mov file format is good enough technically, it might be worth supporting as a standard. It would allow for better cross platform support as Apple maintains a good implementation for Windows and MacOS. Proprietary applications would not have to worry about dealing with open source licensing as they could just deal with Apple. The open source community could then focus on their own stuff without worrying about Windows/MacOS. And when popularizing a file format, one does have to consider Windows/MacOS.
A truly open and free standard is always preferred. But without the support from 90% of the market, it's just not practical. This appears to be the only real problem with Matroska.
If the IT industry actively discouraged women from entering then such measures would be appropriate. But as it stands, the majority of university graduates are now women. At my university there is a 4:1 women to men ratio in their medial program. So the real problem is that women do not want to go into IT. They would rather make more money as, for example, a doctor. I can hardly blame them...
And a side note - regardless of gender, if you don't want to do IT you won't do a good job. You have to have a certain passion for the work. No amount of financial incentive can change this..
Another purpose for armor was to protect against arrows. Without armor a simple arrow can disable or kill any opponent. Why use swords if arrows work so much better? Armor (and shields) allowed armies to pass under waves of arrows to finally attack their opponents. Armor can actually get in the way when in hand to hand combat. The extra weight reduces your speed and stamina. And regardless of how good your armor is, there will always be holes. Should an opponent have a significant advantage in speed they will find those holes and win. If tired and weighted down, your opponent will have a significant advantage in speed.
So you are absolutely right about "1-2 disabling blows deflected by armour" but I would like to add that arrows make up a significant portion of those disabling blows. In fact, look into the history of warfare for different regions and you'll see that armor gets stronger along with bows getting more powerful. I would argue that increased armor is a result of more powerful bows + armor piercing arrowheads.
No 3G. A killer in Europe for something at that level. I'm assuming this won't be a problem by the time of launch though, because I simply cannot imagine anyone trying to launch a 2.5G smart phone here these days.
As others have mentioned, a 3G version is in the works and will likely be ready for the European launch.
"First proper browser on a phone" says Jobs in the keynote. Err...no, no at all. My phone is happily running Opera, as are plenty of others.
The iPhone appears to take a novel approach to web rendering. It displays the full webpage and then allows you to zoom in and pan with simple touch gestures. This way a website doesn't need to be specially designed to display on a small screen.
No user-replaceable battery. No spare batteries? Are they serious? Not a problem with an iPod, you just lose your music for a while. Annoying but liveable. For a phone however, that's a much bigger hassle.
Most people never change their battery. I don't know anyone who has more then one battery. It used to be that batteries wouldn't last so you would have to have multiple batteries - not anymore. If you do need extra batteries, just plug in an external battery pack via the iPod connector. Multiple packs exist for the iPod. And a final point, I wouldn't want the case design to be compromised in order to accept replaceable batteries.
No third-party software. Err...no. Won't fly for me.
Again, I don't know anyone who has third party software installed on their phone. Also, who's to say that a JavaVM won't be present? When Jobs mentioned third-party software it is likely he was referring to native software (ie, designed for OSX). Java apps can run in a sandbox and shouldn't cause any problems. If customers request this, it will be available.
Fixed capacity - I can't move my own flash cards in and out of the phone.
I would like to be able to switch out cards as well. But Apple likely wanted to provide a simple interface for users. Most users don't have extra memory cards for their devices - even digital cameras. Not having replaceable memory cards won't bother most people and Apple knows it. I remember when the iPod came out and everyone said it sucked and would fail because it never supported replaceable memory. That was sure a mistake.
I will not comment on your other points - some I agree with and other I don't. But I would like to point out that the selling point of this phone is not the features but the presentation of those features. If the phone is pleasant to use then people will buy it. Apple is moving into this market because they see a market filled with complex, annoying phones. People are complaining and they think they can do a better job. I think they can too.
Thinking hard takes time and time is a valuable resource. One may not have to pay for it directly but it still has a significant opportunity cost that can't be ignored.
I'm told the accuracy of the reading has to be ~50m so cell tower based triangulation can be enough. Most of the GSM based carriers do this. But CDMA is different and I believe that current CDMA phones all have GPS built in. I know for $10 per month from Telus (CDMA - Canada) you can use your cell phone like a GPS device. For $4/month you can track your kids via the Telus website.
we do things in 5 degree increments, you're doing it in 3 degree increments
Sort of, but not quite. I can feel the difference between 20 and 21 degC if sitting in a room. I don't know the exact temperature but I can feel the difference. So I might say that it feels like it's 21 degC but the actual temperature might be off by +- 2 degC. My point is that the full range of integer temperature values is still used - it's just that the accuracy isn't great. It's the same for degF so there really isn't much of a difference here. And for the record, we also use low/upper segmentation but change it to low/mid/upper to take into account the decreased scale.
Verbally, I find....... Obviously, people are more comfortable with what they are familiar with, but I think dismissing Farenheit as "useless" ignores some of its convenient aspects in day-to-day life.
That's the core of our disagreement. It's all about what you are used to. I'm used to both having grown up listening to my father using degF and watching the weather in degC. My father still won't use degC and being an outdoors oriented guy, (farm, 9 horses, >35 sled dogs), I get to listen to him use the Fahrenheit scale quite a bit. And after being exposed to both, I'll take Celsius.
And as far as that useless comment goes, I never actually said that. I said that it had no additional value - there is a big difference there. And I made my original comment because you claimed that Fahrenheit was superior to Celsius. To you, obviously so, but that is an opinion based on personal preference - there are no real reasons for it. The reasons you did give were invalid, hence my reply.
And one system can be better then the other. Most people agree that Celsius (or metric in general) is better for use with the sciences. Even if Fahrenheit and Celsius were completely equal in every other regard, would it not make more sense to use Celsius over Fahrenheit for consistency? But don't expect me to back up that argument - I really don't care that much...
However, iTunes took forever to go to Canada so it may be more of a legal issue
I believe this was mainly due to licensing with independent Canadian labels. But then there is also the price of music. iTunes songs sell for 99cents CND in Canada. So the same song is cheaper in Canada then the States. I'm surprised that Apple was able to talk the labels into this deal. With multiple labels to deal with and the addition of the independent Canadian labels, it's no surprise it took some time.
But now Apple just has to deal with one company. This shouldn't take long and I wouldn't be surprised to see it released along with the American version.
this gives us a range of temperatures of 140 degrees. The same Celsius range is -30 C - 50 C, a useful range of 80, so for gauging temperatures, the Imperial system is easier for the weather.
Now this is just terrible. Higher resolution != easier to use. Can you really tell the difference between 80 and 81 degrees fahrenheit? I would argue that celsius is a better standard because it has a lower resolution and is centered on freezing. Cold - 0, cool - 10, warm - 20, hot - 30. Doesn't this make sense? Of course you will adjust the values depending on the time of year and where you are located. But your argument that a larger temperature range is better is just fundamentally flawed. I can only reliably detect a ~ 3 degree celsius temperature difference so there is absolutely no additional value gained from using a scale with a range greater then that offered by degrees celsius.
If you look closely at the photos from the links, you'll see that some include gasoline engines with others use fuel cells. So essentially, the people at GM are thinking the same way you are...
Why does everyone always assume that wireless networks are only ever used for internet access?
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Because that is exactly what the majority of wireless networks are used for. Not that you don't have a perfectly valid point, but you don't sound like a typical user.
Once more wireless devices become popular (like 802.11 cell phones, streaming media players, printers, etc..), people will start to require faster wireless networks. Right now they aren't required for most users, but here is the catch, they are required for the development/deployment of new wireless devices. So the statements "wireless networks need to be faster" and "wireless networks are only used for internet access" both apply to the majority of users (assuming they're going to want that cool new wireless device in the future.)
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There will always be desktop/notebook computers in use as we see them today (well, for the foreseeable future anyway.) They offer power and flexibility that can't be matched by embedded devices. However, with the miniaturization of components, more embedded devices are on their way. The market for personal computers has peaked in developed countries and will not grow nearly as fast.
Apple isn't getting out of computing - they're jumping into emerging markets. Being in multiple markets is healthy for a large corporation - so long as those markets are complementary. Expertise gained from one market can be applied to other markets thereby providing a competitive advantage. What you see now is Apple expanding into new markets that complement their existing business. The cool GUI on the iPhone is a direct result of R&D spent on OSX.
Note that it is important for Apple to not expand into markets that do not complement their existing business. Do that and you soon become like Sony. How long did it take Sony to adopt mp3s? - No thanks to their recording label...
Willy
Police officers are human, and as such, can be both good and bad. Unfortunately there are a couple of reasons why officers are likely to be more bad then good.
Of course, if an officer knows you (like your friend) they will treat you great. The problem is when you're a stranger.
They don't have to be efficient. The wasted heat is used in the building so there is effectively no waste. Any electricity generated is just an added bonus.
Large thermoelectric plants are ~40% efficient. A burner heats water, the steam passes over a turbine (connected to a generator), the steam is then condensed (where all the energy is lost) and pumped back into the water tank so it can be heated again.
My suggested idea would, most likely, use an internal combustion engine at ~25% efficiency. But even at a lower efficiency it is still more efficient then just burning gas at 0%. (Note that the efficiency ratings are for electricity production.)
Willy
Producing electricity from a heat source (gas, coal, nuclear) is wasteful - typically only ~40% efficient. So in order to maximize our use of resources we should make use of that wasted heat. Pumping the heat (via water) to neighboring houses and greenhouses is just one example that is commonly used in Europe.
But this brings up another idea. Why not do away with burning fuels for heat. Large building could instead burn fuels to generate electricity and use the waste heat as their heat source. Extra electricity could be sent to the grid at nearly 95% efficiency. I say 95% efficiency because almost all the the energy released by the burning fuel is put to work.
In warmer climates this approach would be less useful, but it would still be effective for heating water. An entire block of building could get together and share a single generator/hot water heater.
Anyway, this is just a thought resulting from seeing large buildings in cold weather being heated via natural gas while knowing that the electricity powering the building was only 40% efficient.
Willy
When streaming media, you do not want to segment the media file and then send it in a random order. If you do, you can't view it until it has completely finished downloading. A better solution is to send segments sequentially - this allows the media to be viewed shortly after the download is started. This is one of the reasons why I love usenet over p2p solutions for downloading media.
There is no way Apple will go the p2p route. When a user selects a video it should start playing in under a minute. Anything more and the device won't sell. Bitorrent just doesn't cut it.
Willy
Actually, it's like this:
1: Canada
2: Mexico
3: Middle East
4: Argentina
I just read this the other day (cnn.com). Personally I was surprised that Mexico exported so much oil, but I'm not surprised about Canada. Funny thing is much of that oil gets sent to the States for refinement and then is sent back to Canada.
Willy
I agree with what you have written but just wanted to add a point.
The power consumption of SRAM is actually increasing to the point where it doesn't offer any real benefits over DRAM. The problem arises from smaller transistors with greater leakage current. Older SRAM could sit there and draw almost no power - but no longer. Because SRAM requires more transistors then DRAM, the leakage current essentially offsets the power used during the refresh cycle on DRAM.
Now I'm not claiming that DRAM currently uses less power then SRAM. I'm just saying that with modern manufacturing technologies, the old assumption that SRAM uses less power then DRAM is no longer valid. I imagine IBM saw this coming a long time ago and is partly why they invested in finding ways to put DRAM into CPUs.
Willy
People are pro ---- because they found a product/company that they are happy with. They found something that makes their life better and are publicly stating this fact so that others may also benefit from the product/company. It doesn't matter what product or service they are talking about, the reasons are generally the same. The same applies when people are anti ----, just for different reasons. They got screwed over by a product/service and they are spreading the word so that others can avoid making the same mistakes that they made. It's basic human nature. Come to think of it, ants do the same thing. ;)
I agree with you completely and don't think anyone wants Apple to dominate the desktop market. But wouldn't it be great if they had a 20% market share? Now developers will think more about cross-platform compatibility. This would benefit everyone (Mac, Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD, - but not Microsoft).
Nobody is trying to make you buy a Mac - well, except maybe Apple. If you're happy then that's great. Personally, I'm hesitant recommending a Mac to most people for fear there is an application they can no longer run. But for certain people a Mac makes a lot of sense.
What people are trying to tell you is that, if you have the opportunity, you should give MacOS a try. And it takes more then a day so give it a couple of months. You will either think it is a waste of money and stick with Windows or you will have found a better way to get your work done. Either way, you would come out knowing more then when you started. People might not agree with your choice, but they will respect it.
WillyThere is an easy way. To move the focus to the menu bar press ^F2 (ctrl-F2). From there the arrow keys can be used to navigate the menus. The shortcut can be changed via System Preferences - other shortcuts are also listed there so check it out.
WillyI agree. I had envisioned an autonomous satellite that would synchronize its orbit with whatever junk is to be removed then apply a magnetic field so that the object would drop out of orbit. The benefit of this is that you wouldn't have to setup a collision to remove objects - you would just have to get close (wrt proximity and velocity). Of course, this is all a bit futile if carbon fiber and Al make up a significant portion of the junk up there.
In all honesty, I know nothing of this field so anything I have to say is simply speculation and should be treated as such. For example, after reading your reply I'm beginning to think that an autonomous satellite that lays a field of gas in front of oncoming objects might be a better approach. But running out of gas would be a problem. Or how about positioning a mobile mass large enough to absorb the impact from any orbiting junk? Simple, crude, but effective.
And magnets? Given enough time, a magnet might be able to draw in some of the magnetic particles. Of course, so much for Al.
Willy
I'm sure the file format is patented, but it's also an open format. They offer licenses to anyone who wants to use it. The license is a simple - "We're not liable for damages..." type of license. It's a whole 8 page PDF and is available here. I should also note that Apple has some open source projects that utilize this standard. Most notably, the quicktime streaming server. The FFmpeg project also supports the .mov file format without any legal action from Apple.
It the .mov file format is good enough technically, it might be worth supporting as a standard. It would allow for better cross platform support as Apple maintains a good implementation for Windows and MacOS. Proprietary applications would not have to worry about dealing with open source licensing as they could just deal with Apple. The open source community could then focus on their own stuff without worrying about Windows/MacOS. And when popularizing a file format, one does have to consider Windows/MacOS.
A truly open and free standard is always preferred. But without the support from 90% of the market, it's just not practical. This appears to be the only real problem with Matroska.
If the IT industry actively discouraged women from entering then such measures would be appropriate. But as it stands, the majority of university graduates are now women. At my university there is a 4:1 women to men ratio in their medial program. So the real problem is that women do not want to go into IT. They would rather make more money as, for example, a doctor. I can hardly blame them...
And a side note - regardless of gender, if you don't want to do IT you won't do a good job. You have to have a certain passion for the work. No amount of financial incentive can change this..
Another purpose for armor was to protect against arrows. Without armor a simple arrow can disable or kill any opponent. Why use swords if arrows work so much better? Armor (and shields) allowed armies to pass under waves of arrows to finally attack their opponents. Armor can actually get in the way when in hand to hand combat. The extra weight reduces your speed and stamina. And regardless of how good your armor is, there will always be holes. Should an opponent have a significant advantage in speed they will find those holes and win. If tired and weighted down, your opponent will have a significant advantage in speed.
So you are absolutely right about "1-2 disabling blows deflected by armour" but I would like to add that arrows make up a significant portion of those disabling blows. In fact, look into the history of warfare for different regions and you'll see that armor gets stronger along with bows getting more powerful. I would argue that increased armor is a result of more powerful bows + armor piercing arrowheads.
Willy
I would like to be able to switch out cards as well. But Apple likely wanted to provide a simple interface for users. Most users don't have extra memory cards for their devices - even digital cameras. Not having replaceable memory cards won't bother most people and Apple knows it. I remember when the iPod came out and everyone said it sucked and would fail because it never supported replaceable memory. That was sure a mistake.
I will not comment on your other points - some I agree with and other I don't. But I would like to point out that the selling point of this phone is not the features but the presentation of those features. If the phone is pleasant to use then people will buy it. Apple is moving into this market because they see a market filled with complex, annoying phones. People are complaining and they think they can do a better job. I think they can too.
Willy
Thinking hard takes time and time is a valuable resource. One may not have to pay for it directly but it still has a significant opportunity cost that can't be ignored.
Willy
I'm told the accuracy of the reading has to be ~50m so cell tower based triangulation can be enough. Most of the GSM based carriers do this. But CDMA is different and I believe that current CDMA phones all have GPS built in. I know for $10 per month from Telus (CDMA - Canada) you can use your cell phone like a GPS device. For $4/month you can track your kids via the Telus website.
Sort of, but not quite. I can feel the difference between 20 and 21 degC if sitting in a room. I don't know the exact temperature but I can feel the difference. So I might say that it feels like it's 21 degC but the actual temperature might be off by +- 2 degC. My point is that the full range of integer temperature values is still used - it's just that the accuracy isn't great. It's the same for degF so there really isn't much of a difference here. And for the record, we also use low/upper segmentation but change it to low/mid/upper to take into account the decreased scale.
That's the core of our disagreement. It's all about what you are used to. I'm used to both having grown up listening to my father using degF and watching the weather in degC. My father still won't use degC and being an outdoors oriented guy, (farm, 9 horses, >35 sled dogs), I get to listen to him use the Fahrenheit scale quite a bit. And after being exposed to both, I'll take Celsius.
And as far as that useless comment goes, I never actually said that. I said that it had no additional value - there is a big difference there. And I made my original comment because you claimed that Fahrenheit was superior to Celsius. To you, obviously so, but that is an opinion based on personal preference - there are no real reasons for it. The reasons you did give were invalid, hence my reply.
And one system can be better then the other. Most people agree that Celsius (or metric in general) is better for use with the sciences. Even if Fahrenheit and Celsius were completely equal in every other regard, would it not make more sense to use Celsius over Fahrenheit for consistency? But don't expect me to back up that argument - I really don't care that much...
But now Apple just has to deal with one company. This shouldn't take long and I wouldn't be surprised to see it released along with the American version.
If you look closely at the photos from the links, you'll see that some include gasoline engines with others use fuel cells. So essentially, the people at GM are thinking the same way you are...
Willy
My father, grandfather, and to a lesser degree, my mother.
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Because that is exactly what the majority of wireless networks are used for. Not that you don't have a perfectly valid point, but you don't sound like a typical user.
Once more wireless devices become popular (like 802.11 cell phones, streaming media players, printers, etc..), people will start to require faster wireless networks. Right now they aren't required for most users, but here is the catch, they are required for the development/deployment of new wireless devices. So the statements "wireless networks need to be faster" and "wireless networks are only used for internet access" both apply to the majority of users (assuming they're going to want that cool new wireless device in the future.)
Willy