I don't think it is I think Apple did make a reasonable effort with DRM, and no I don't think it's an obvious flaw.
As soon as you hit 'play' you decrypt the songs. Any stream grabber, buffer copier, or output device thus has a flawless copy of the audio stream. The fact that Apple said, "If that's the case, we might as well encrypt on the client side, since the client side will have to decrypt it" makes perfect sense.
Steve Jobs has stated as much that copy protection doesn't work, and that piracy is a social problem.
Given that stance, making music easy and making music affordable seems to have worked. We already have Hymn, for example, showing us that music can be decrypted. What would the point of making the music more secure? You don't sell more music by making it more secure, you sell more music by making it easier to find, making it easier on the ears, or by making it cheaper.
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Yeah, I forgot about them.
They were first that I can tell; followed by the cheaper Mini, and the larger Soldam Lepty.
Looking around, DVD-R costs $9 for 25, DVD+R costs $20 for 50, and there are many different multiple-format burners out there. How exactly does that mean settled?
If anything, this proves that we will see healthy adoption of both formats, with an initial ruse for the cheaper format, followed by the release of dual format drives, and then finally both media hitting similar price-points.
So Apple wins, because it will be first out of the gate with a new format, and consumers win because the first one out will invariably be cheaper for some time, then newer drives will come out to let more competition into the media market, and finally we'll just have multiple media for multiple uses; 5 GB DVD, 20GB DVD-HD, and 30GB BlueRay
Obviously if we both sold computers of comparable usability, mine quiet/fanless and yours noisy/fans, my computers would have 8 markets yours would not:)
An iPod is a computer, and it has no fans A Palm or PocketPC is a computer, and it has no fans A cell phone is a computer, and it has no fans
It's not that fans, or lack of, are the strong point, but there is a correlation with size, heat, power, and noise that keep some things out of some markets. You can't sell a cell phone with a fan, it interferes with the conversation. Likewise you can't sell a iPod with a fan, as it would interfere with the music.
Using deductive logic, then, computers without fans can be placed in more locations than computers with fans because they will be correspondingly lower power, smaller size, quieter, and more flexible than computers limited by fans.
Fans are a limitation, not a feature. CPUs, memory, hard drives, displays, those are featers. Designing without fans is not a drawback, but a benefit.
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Excuse me for not knowing about the Soldam Lepty. Everything I've seen says it's available in Japan and was announced shortly after the Mac mini?
So you are right, there are more than one; three that I know of now, in order of age that I can tell:
Cappuccino which sells systems comparable to a Mac mini for $800 Apple which sells the $500 Mac mini Soldam sells a $700 system that uses a regular desktop hard drive, but otherwise has laptop components
You can get performance or efficiency with a hybrid. As gas goes up in price, you'll eventually get cost too (since regular today is the same price as premium three months ago!).
And a light low displacement gasoline car will still perform better with a hybrid component than without; use the electric motor as a turbo and as a low rpm boost.
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Look around, and only one company has truly done that... Apple with the Mac mini.
Many of the SFF PCs use m-itx, rather than laptop, motherboards and components. As such they use regular desktop CPUs, hard drives, heatsinks, and optical drives.
The Mac mini, however, uses a laptop hard drive, laptop optical drive, a laptop heatsink, and a laptop CPU.
What if you're using the computer to learn how to speak foreign languages?
What if you're using the computer in a library?
What if you're using the computer in a soundstage?
What if you're using the computer in a recording room?
What if you're using the computer in a theater?
What if you're using the computer in a home theater?
What if you're using the computer in a bedroom?
There are lots of noise sensitive places. In fact there are more 'quiet' places than non quiet, so the lack of a 'quiet' PC is probably hurting more than you suspect.
You mean because these people are lesser people, they should be held to lower standards?
If the law is right, they should suffer it's consequences, even if it's only a subpoena. If the law is wrong then there are two consequences: If they broke the law they should STILL suffer it's consequences (for breaking a law) but they should work to get it fixed (which is what greater men have had done through peaceful protest).
My take, however, is that they did break a law and the law is not wrong.
I work in the tech industry. I want to see that 'trade dress' protections are accurately enforced.
That means if we make software or products to enter a market dominated by another that we can't be sued for similarity when there are obvious differences, and that when a company decides to imitate us that we can sue them if they copy us too closely.
Your logic is like saying, "The Ford Mustang is a clone of the Chevy Corvette" because both use gasoline fueled engines and have two doors and rear wheel drive.
Or even more similar to your analogy, that the iPod is a clone of the Creative Nomad because both use hard drives, play mp3s, have equalizer settings, and playlists.
The expectation when you use 'clone', ie cloning, is that not only are there similar functions, but they are physically as similar as twins. The SuperShuffle is a clone of the iPod Shuffle, the same way a Ford Escape is a clone of a Mazda Tribute; same components, same design, same usage.
A Ford Escape is not a clone of a Honda RAV or Toyota CRV, nor is a Honda RAV a clone of a Toyota CRV, even though all are FUNCTIONALLY identical.
That also means you pay the consequences. Then break it again. Get everyone else to break the law. Over and over and over again until the law is changed.
It's called living according to your own standard, especially in the face of a bad law.
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I don't think it is I think Apple did make a reasonable effort with DRM, and no I don't think it's an obvious flaw.
As soon as you hit 'play' you decrypt the songs. Any stream grabber, buffer copier, or output device thus has a flawless copy of the audio stream. The fact that Apple said, "If that's the case, we might as well encrypt on the client side, since the client side will have to decrypt it" makes perfect sense.
Why it a design flaw?
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What would the point of making it MORE secure be? Increase sales?
I bet after today, we'll see increases in sales because it is less secure. Then there is the issue... will we also see increases in sharing?
That would be the question to ask I think
What exactly would the point be?
Steve Jobs has stated as much that copy protection doesn't work, and that piracy is a social problem.
Given that stance, making music easy and making music affordable seems to have worked. We already have Hymn, for example, showing us that music can be decrypted. What would the point of making the music more secure? You don't sell more music by making it more secure, you sell more music by making it easier to find, making it easier on the ears, or by making it cheaper.
Yeah, I forgot about them.
They were first that I can tell; followed by the cheaper Mini, and the larger Soldam Lepty.
How?
Looking around, DVD-R costs $9 for 25, DVD+R costs $20 for 50, and there are many different multiple-format burners out there. How exactly does that mean settled?
If anything, this proves that we will see healthy adoption of both formats, with an initial ruse for the cheaper format, followed by the release of dual format drives, and then finally both media hitting similar price-points.
So Apple wins, because it will be first out of the gate with a new format, and consumers win because the first one out will invariably be cheaper for some time, then newer drives will come out to let more competition into the media market, and finally we'll just have multiple media for multiple uses; 5 GB DVD, 20GB DVD-HD, and 30GB BlueRay
So you're saying more people will buy a $299 Dell than a $499 Mac mini?
Obviously if we both sold computers of comparable usability, mine quiet/fanless and yours noisy/fans, my computers would have 8 markets yours would not :)
An iPod is a computer, and it has no fans
A Palm or PocketPC is a computer, and it has no fans
A cell phone is a computer, and it has no fans
It's not that fans, or lack of, are the strong point, but there is a correlation with size, heat, power, and noise that keep some things out of some markets. You can't sell a cell phone with a fan, it interferes with the conversation. Likewise you can't sell a iPod with a fan, as it would interfere with the music.
Using deductive logic, then, computers without fans can be placed in more locations than computers with fans because they will be correspondingly lower power, smaller size, quieter, and more flexible than computers limited by fans.
Fans are a limitation, not a feature. CPUs, memory, hard drives, displays, those are featers. Designing without fans is not a drawback, but a benefit.
Excuse me for not knowing about the Soldam Lepty. Everything I've seen says it's available in Japan and was announced shortly after the Mac mini?
So you are right, there are more than one; three that I know of now, in order of age that I can tell:
Cappuccino which sells systems comparable to a Mac mini for $800
Apple which sells the $500 Mac mini
Soldam sells a $700 system that uses a regular desktop hard drive, but otherwise has laptop components
Two situations:
Your bedroom is your livingroom is your office. Think college dormrooms. Perhaps it has to do something overnight.
You happen to have an iPod in your bedroom playing music or charging or synching.
An iPod is a computer too; memory, display, port, storage, CPU, and it's fanless.
There are millions of uses for computers, many undiscovered because until now fans and noise kept them out of many places.
Well, they have choices:
Cost
Performance
Efficiency
You can get performance or efficiency with a hybrid. As gas goes up in price, you'll eventually get cost too (since regular today is the same price as premium three months ago!).
And a light low displacement gasoline car will still perform better with a hybrid component than without; use the electric motor as a turbo and as a low rpm boost.
Look around, and only one company has truly done that... Apple with the Mac mini.
Many of the SFF PCs use m-itx, rather than laptop, motherboards and components. As such they use regular desktop CPUs, hard drives, heatsinks, and optical drives.
The Mac mini, however, uses a laptop hard drive, laptop optical drive, a laptop heatsink, and a laptop CPU.
What if you're listening to classical music?
What if you're using the computer to learn how to speak foreign languages?
What if you're using the computer in a library?
What if you're using the computer in a soundstage?
What if you're using the computer in a recording room?
What if you're using the computer in a theater?
What if you're using the computer in a home theater?
What if you're using the computer in a bedroom?
There are lots of noise sensitive places. In fact there are more 'quiet' places than non quiet, so the lack of a 'quiet' PC is probably hurting more than you suspect.
I also forgot the "higher initial performance than pure diesel".
The electric motor can be tuned; extra HP on top of diesel for performance, or HP to complement diesel for efficiency.
Nothing is stopping hybrid DIESEL.
1) Better efficiency than pure diesel
2) Longer engine life than pure diesel
3) Diesel fule can be produced from non-fossil sources
4) Extra 10 to 40 percent efficiency due to regenerative braking + running the engine at peak efficiency
Standardized and accepted behavior, maybe?
Proof of the behavior: Moore's Law
Are you confused by that one? Have you not heard of it before?
Another possibility; buy an 'embedded' drive and use the PCMCIA slot for Firewire/USB2 and use that to hook up and back up the laptop.
Embedded 60gb drives are cheaper than standalone 5gb drives aren't they?
You mean because these people are lesser people, they should be held to lower standards?
If the law is right, they should suffer it's consequences, even if it's only a subpoena. If the law is wrong then there are two consequences: If they broke the law they should STILL suffer it's consequences (for breaking a law) but they should work to get it fixed (which is what greater men have had done through peaceful protest).
My take, however, is that they did break a law and the law is not wrong.
I work in the tech industry. I want to see that 'trade dress' protections are accurately enforced.
That means if we make software or products to enter a market dominated by another that we can't be sued for similarity when there are obvious differences, and that when a company decides to imitate us that we can sue them if they copy us too closely.
Alright, so here's my question/allegation.
How do you know that the Gray Whale and the iPod shuffle have the same frame and powertrain?
That's like claiming the Nomad and iPod (as an example I used earlier) have the same frame and powertrain.
Your logic is like saying, "The Ford Mustang is a clone of the Chevy Corvette" because both use gasoline fueled engines and have two doors and rear wheel drive.
Or even more similar to your analogy, that the iPod is a clone of the Creative Nomad because both use hard drives, play mp3s, have equalizer settings, and playlists.
The expectation when you use 'clone', ie cloning, is that not only are there similar functions, but they are physically as similar as twins. The SuperShuffle is a clone of the iPod Shuffle, the same way a Ford Escape is a clone of a Mazda Tribute; same components, same design, same usage.
A Ford Escape is not a clone of a Honda RAV or Toyota CRV, nor is a Honda RAV a clone of a Toyota CRV, even though all are FUNCTIONALLY identical.
If I or you were to create something cool and someone created a knockoff, don't you think we deserve protection via 'trade dress' protections?
You can use both techniques.
OLEDs because they are more energy efficient
Focus dimming to increase OLED usage efficiency
If it's a bad law, BREAK IT.
That also means you pay the consequences. Then break it again. Get everyone else to break the law. Over and over and over again until the law is changed.
It's called living according to your own standard, especially in the face of a bad law.
What 'bad law' exists here, in Apple's case?
That's the price to pay. If this is TRULY worth printing, it's also truly worth going to jail for.
MLK went to jail
Gandhi went to jail
So if the law is wrong, or the ruling is wrong, all he has to do to protest is go to jail, even if it takes months.
Not if a competitor used this info.
AKA, Huawei leaks his info to rumor sites and then uses those sites as sources.