If it were CNN that leaked and I were running Apple, I would still subpoena the journalist who wrote the piece.
The issue of "What is a journalist" is irrelevant. Working at a company with NDAs, where my bonuses and paycheck are tied to my performance, and where leaking of NDAs can give competitors advantages, I would be royally pissed if something got leaked.
So if this were my lawsuit, if this were my product, and my leak, I would subpoena regardless of whether it's a news source; why does it matter? Because a journalist can hide behind a shield where a blogger can't?
So what? It wouldn't stop me, or my army of clever lawyers. Contempt of court is still contempt of court, and jail is still jail. I realize I'm being selfish and protective of my needs in trying to weasel out the contract breaker, but isn't that my right? Someone, intentionally or not, leaked information that should not have been leaked, and now TS is feeling the repercussions of it.
If it had been CNN or Fox, Apple might have tried a more diplomatic tactic, but I can't fault them for being brutally direct here either.
If CNN.com publishes an online op-ed detailing Apple/Intel/Microsoft/ATI/NVIDIA/Anyone's NDA locked future products, why shouldn't they be subpoenaed to find the leakers?
And if they can, why not Think Secret?
But I don't agree that bloggers aren't journalists, I just think the journalist's shield shouldn't protect someone who's connected to a crime, even if it's as minor as violation of contract law.
Wouldn't those engineers still be liable for the information they had leaked to Wired, then?
So if Intel went after Wired, Wired could say, "We overheard it at the Cornelius Pass Roadhouse," and then Intel could 'request' a list of names from credit cards or business cards dropped off there (analogous to Think Secret's subpoena) and even though the CPR can claim, "Hey, we didn't do anything wrong!" Intel could say, "But you have material evidence we need to find the wrongdoer."
You're right, they should be allowed to treat blogs any different than the NYT.
If the NYT had published an op-ed two months in advance about upcoming Apple products, then I would expect Apple to subpoena the NYT for the NDA violators as well.
What exactly was your point? That first to market is best? My point is that first to market gives you an advantage, but you lose that advantage if second to market has better execution.
Price a 40gb 256mb CDRW/DVD 1.2GHz Cappuccino. It should be something like $900.
Price a 40gb 256mb CDRW/DVD 1.25GHz Mac mini. It should be something like $499.
Why are we talking about the original iMac, again?
Let me list the things they've done SINCE, as innovations:
Software, first iMovie: Turning Joe Everyman into their own director and producer. iDVD: Turning Joe Everyman into their own DVD factory iTunes: For introducing to the world the concepts of database driven music libraries GarageBand: Turning Joe Everyman into their own digital band
Hardware, next iPod: The first true portable music library. It can count as ancestors the Creative Nomad (about the size of a Mac mini) and the PJB100 (about the size of a paperback book). The iPod, in comparison, was the size of a deck of cards, could be filled to capacity in 10 minutes instead of 10 hours because of Firewire, and could be used with one hand. Wifi: They definitely didn't invent it, but they made it available, quickly, on all their hardware, they built in antennas into all their machines, and they built in first class support in their OS. It took years for others to build antennas, software, and hardware support into their laptops. Firewire: In a world of USB, Apple decided to design, release, and adopt Firewire; easily 10-50 times faster, it was the computer that was the bottleneck and not the interface. USB2 wasn't available for WindowsXP until SP1 in 2002. Firewire was available on the first iMac by the end of 1999. XServe: One of the worlds most cost effective OEM supercomputer cluster nodes; dual 64bit CPUs with vector processing units at 2.3GHz for $3k iPod mini: If you thought the iPod was small, the mini was smaller still, and before any of their competitors.
Others, last iTMS: They created the first music store where for $1 you could burn your purchased music to CD an unlimited number of times, upload to an unlimited number of iPods, and listen to on 5 computers; all other stores limited you to only listening to one computer, none allowed you to upload to an mp3 player, and non allowed you to burn to CD.
So do you really think Apple hasn't had any innovations since 1998, when they released the colored iMacs?
The Cappuccino deserves credit for being out two years ago, but they really didn't do anything with their lead; They weren't targeting the right markets, I think.
Why not say that Apple is responsible for quadrupling the market?
Why not say Apple CREATED the 'smaller than a CD player' hard drive mp3 player market? Because before the iPod, the only two previous entries were: Creative Nomad, at 5"x5"x1.5" (note that the Mac mini is 6.5"x6.5"x2") and 14 oz PBJ 100, at 6"x3"x1" and 10 oz
So it's more than 'decent product, brilliant marketing' at first. It was 'awesome product, good marketing, high price'.
It wasn't until late 2003 that the first real competition became on par.
Of course not; someone else would have said, "Hey, I can make a smaller mp3 player!", like iRiver or Samsung.
But it WASN'T.
It was Apple.
Twice.
From the Creative Nomad -> iPod From the iPod -> iPod mini
It took Creative 4 years to create an iPod killer, and they announced theirs in October of 2004, several months after Apple had already shipped their iPod mini using a similar microdrive.
Do you sense a trend here? The same thing happened with the color iPod.
So no, there's no speculation about what would have happened had Apple not existed, only fact of what did happen, several times, with the iPod, iPod mini, iPod photo, and now the Mac mini.
But yes, the cost of software isn't inconsequential; how many people out there can claim they can use equivalent F/LOSS to replace the functionality of the Mac mini (which isn't a media PC, so that's probably why for your purposes a Shuttle is a better deal). At the least if you're going to run Windows, it's about $200 of software including the OS, multimedia apps, and productivity apps.
I think he was blaming Microsoft, Compaq, and Dell, not Intel, for lack of innovation.
I think you understate the value of small PCs. It's not that people don't care; it's that no small PCs were sold! There is also a second problem; PCs don't have to live in an office, and small PCs solve that problem. You can now place a Mac mini in your kitchen, your living room, your bedroom, AND your office.
Of course the constraint is now the monitor and not the tower, but Apple is working on it I'm sure.
They've done something. If you can grant that Microsoft popularized PCs by making them affordable, then Apple has popularized mp3 players by making them usable, and now SFF by making them affordable.
Shuttle, for example, ships as many units in a year as Apple ships iMacs in a quarter. Think of that 'exposure'. If there were 10 SFF companies out there, most smaller than Shuttle, then the volume of SFF PCs is such that, to the majority of users, no one has ever seen a PC 'smaller than a breadbox'.
So yes, Apple is NEW.
The same logic for the iPod. Prior to the iPod there existed TWO hard drive mp3 players. The Creative Nomad (about the same size as the Mac mini!) was 5"x5"x1.5" and 14 oz. and the PJB 100, at 5"x3"x1" and 10oz. They used regular or laptop hard drives, used USB1, and had awful UIs.
So the first gen iPod was revolutionary: 4"x2.4"x0.78" and 6.56oz, Firewire interface, and a truly usable UI.
They were the only hard drive players you could fit in your pocket. They were the only hard drive players you could use with one hand. They were the only hard drive player you could upload your data in less than 10 minutes max.
Now everyone can do it. Before the iPod, you couldn't.
That's because the iPod is it's own computer: RAM, hard disk, firmware, display, power, serial, and two CPUs.
If you mess with it's boot sector, how will it be able to boot?
That's why I mentioned the MBR; don't touch it, and don't add a boot sector. On OS X, the boot sector happens to be in firmware, and I think you can similarly configure Linux or BSD, though I haven't tried it. (OpenBIOS and LinuxBIOS come to mind)
You still need to thank the heritage of the Zen; without a first gen iPod, your Zen would have looked like a first generation Nomad: About the size of Mac mini.
That was the Creative competition to the first iPod 3 years ago.
On Mac all you do is plug it in, insert the OS X CDs, and when you install OS X you tell it to install on the iPod, without formatting your iPod.
If you can do that with Windows (without formatting your iPod) and you have a 'boot from external disk' option in the BIOS, I don't know what would stop you. Except possibly the master boot record... I think Linux or BSD might be more lenient than Windows about that though.
Because the Mac mini shipped. It's why Doom 3 shipping is news, while the milestone of Duke Nukem Forever is not.
Mini ITX boards have been around for years; Mac minis are 1/3 the volume and 1/2 the size. Nano ITX has been announced many months before the Mac mini, but hasn't shipped yet, while the mini has. Even still, when someone took a prototype nano-itx board and tried to fit it into a Mac mini, it was discovered it didn't fit; they hat to saw down the heatsink AND they had to remove the optical drive, so the Mac mini is STILL smaller than nano-itx.
There's nothing revolutionary about the mini, other than it's size AND price; the only similar PC is the Cappuccino PCs, which are slightly smaller, but nearly twice as expensive. Even Shuttle based boxes, which can hold almost 3 Mac minis inside them, cost more.
Yes, a hunk of plastic has more OS flexibility than a PowerPC processor. Yeah, really flexible.
It's only functionality is a clock. That's all it can do. There's no CPU, no motherboard, nothing. It's a mockup of a PC designed to compete with the Mac mini.
If you're on a budget, I would think a $499 package would be better than Premiere's $699 package, right?
iMovie is only $499 bundled with a Mac mini. There's a lot of reviews for iMovie sans HD, and I'm sure a few with; iMovie is pretty solid for basic NLE (I've used it for weddings, presentations, and DVD quality releases), but most of the 'magic' comes from the camera, cameraman, director, and source material. The NLE can't do anything with crap.
What if you have a shell of this stuff around the airplane; and between the airplane and this shell you have emitters and absorbers?
Essentially all ambient light from outside the shell is passed through and absorbed, while the emitters project the image they want onto and through the shell so that to external viewers the airplane 'disappears'?
It's a high tech equivalent to multiple mirrors: Incident light coming in is redirected away from the plane, and outgoing light is created from a false image.
Even that isn't quite right; as long as the sun pumps more energy into our system than we can draw out of it, it is not quite zero sum.
ZSG can be thought the economic equivalent to the second law of thermodynamics; That all things must go to entropy, except for the fact that the sun pumps enough energy into our system to keep things ordered. Likewise, economically, a ZSG means we are running out of resources (each person who uses a resource denies it to another, until we are out of resources) except that the sun keeps producing more food, more fresh water, more oil, etc, through natural processes.
I had to look up BER, and in doing so (alongside with Airport Express) came up with this, which talks about jitter on S/PDIF, so it's not as if this kind of error doesn't plague wires, either.
What you are asking essentially is the ber of the implementation of the underlying protocol; the 802.11b and 802.11g implementations of the Airport Express and the particular wifi card of the person who decided to use an Airport Express.
As far as I can tell, Airport Express uses UDP:5353 for Airtunes, but that's from a quick Google.
It'll also take a new copy of Windows Media Center; that or a new Media Center PC.
Likely all Apple would require is a free copy of iTunes; of course this assumes your PC is powerful enough, but if it is, then it only will (likely) cost $189.
Microsoft's solution will force you to buy a new PC (I don't know if they sell the Media Center OS standalone, yet), plus the $199 extender. Yes, Microsoft can claim to be first, but I doubt they can claim to be better.
I only point and use the existing Apple Airport Express as my model; a $129 device that only requires a user to have Apple iTunes.
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If it were CNN that leaked and I were running Apple, I would still subpoena the journalist who wrote the piece.
The issue of "What is a journalist" is irrelevant. Working at a company with NDAs, where my bonuses and paycheck are tied to my performance, and where leaking of NDAs can give competitors advantages, I would be royally pissed if something got leaked.
So if this were my lawsuit, if this were my product, and my leak, I would subpoena regardless of whether it's a news source; why does it matter? Because a journalist can hide behind a shield where a blogger can't?
So what? It wouldn't stop me, or my army of clever lawyers. Contempt of court is still contempt of court, and jail is still jail. I realize I'm being selfish and protective of my needs in trying to weasel out the contract breaker, but isn't that my right? Someone, intentionally or not, leaked information that should not have been leaked, and now TS is feeling the repercussions of it.
If it had been CNN or Fox, Apple might have tried a more diplomatic tactic, but I can't fault them for being brutally direct here either.
If CNN.com publishes an online op-ed detailing Apple/Intel/Microsoft/ATI/NVIDIA/Anyone's NDA locked future products, why shouldn't they be subpoenaed to find the leakers?
And if they can, why not Think Secret?
But I don't agree that bloggers aren't journalists, I just think the journalist's shield shouldn't protect someone who's connected to a crime, even if it's as minor as violation of contract law.
Wouldn't those engineers still be liable for the information they had leaked to Wired, then?
So if Intel went after Wired, Wired could say, "We overheard it at the Cornelius Pass Roadhouse," and then Intel could 'request' a list of names from credit cards or business cards dropped off there (analogous to Think Secret's subpoena) and even though the CPR can claim, "Hey, we didn't do anything wrong!" Intel could say, "But you have material evidence we need to find the wrongdoer."
You're right, they should be allowed to treat blogs any different than the NYT.
If the NYT had published an op-ed two months in advance about upcoming Apple products, then I would expect Apple to subpoena the NYT for the NDA violators as well.
Yes, just like the original Mac predated Windows.
Or the Creative Nomad predated the Apple iPod.
What exactly was your point? That first to market is best? My point is that first to market gives you an advantage, but you lose that advantage if second to market has better execution.
Price a 40gb 256mb CDRW/DVD 1.2GHz Cappuccino. It should be something like $900.
Price a 40gb 256mb CDRW/DVD 1.25GHz Mac mini. It should be something like $499.
Why are we talking about the original iMac, again?
Let me list the things they've done SINCE, as innovations:
Software, first
iMovie: Turning Joe Everyman into their own director and producer.
iDVD: Turning Joe Everyman into their own DVD factory
iTunes: For introducing to the world the concepts of database driven music libraries
GarageBand: Turning Joe Everyman into their own digital band
Hardware, next
iPod: The first true portable music library. It can count as ancestors the Creative Nomad (about the size of a Mac mini) and the PJB100 (about the size of a paperback book). The iPod, in comparison, was the size of a deck of cards, could be filled to capacity in 10 minutes instead of 10 hours because of Firewire, and could be used with one hand.
Wifi: They definitely didn't invent it, but they made it available, quickly, on all their hardware, they built in antennas into all their machines, and they built in first class support in their OS. It took years for others to build antennas, software, and hardware support into their laptops.
Firewire: In a world of USB, Apple decided to design, release, and adopt Firewire; easily 10-50 times faster, it was the computer that was the bottleneck and not the interface. USB2 wasn't available for WindowsXP until SP1 in 2002. Firewire was available on the first iMac by the end of 1999.
XServe: One of the worlds most cost effective OEM supercomputer cluster nodes; dual 64bit CPUs with vector processing units at 2.3GHz for $3k
iPod mini: If you thought the iPod was small, the mini was smaller still, and before any of their competitors.
Others, last
iTMS: They created the first music store where for $1 you could burn your purchased music to CD an unlimited number of times, upload to an unlimited number of iPods, and listen to on 5 computers; all other stores limited you to only listening to one computer, none allowed you to upload to an mp3 player, and non allowed you to burn to CD.
So do you really think Apple hasn't had any innovations since 1998, when they released the colored iMacs?
True, the Cappuccino was first; but now the Mini is cheaper AND faster (but that's technology for you).
Why do you think the mini doesn't support tv?
The Cappuccino deserves credit for being out two years ago, but they really didn't do anything with their lead; They weren't targeting the right markets, I think.
Why not say that Apple is responsible for quadrupling the market?
Why not say Apple CREATED the 'smaller than a CD player' hard drive mp3 player market? Because before the iPod, the only two previous entries were:
Creative Nomad, at 5"x5"x1.5" (note that the Mac mini is 6.5"x6.5"x2") and 14 oz
PBJ 100, at 6"x3"x1" and 10 oz
So it's more than 'decent product, brilliant marketing' at first. It was 'awesome product, good marketing, high price'.
It wasn't until late 2003 that the first real competition became on par.
Of course not; someone else would have said, "Hey, I can make a smaller mp3 player!", like iRiver or Samsung.
But it WASN'T.
It was Apple.
Twice.
From the Creative Nomad -> iPod
From the iPod -> iPod mini
It took Creative 4 years to create an iPod killer, and they announced theirs in October of 2004, several months after Apple had already shipped their iPod mini using a similar microdrive.
Do you sense a trend here? The same thing happened with the color iPod.
So no, there's no speculation about what would have happened had Apple not existed, only fact of what did happen, several times, with the iPod, iPod mini, iPod photo, and now the Mac mini.
How much would it have been without rebates then?
But yes, the cost of software isn't inconsequential; how many people out there can claim they can use equivalent F/LOSS to replace the functionality of the Mac mini (which isn't a media PC, so that's probably why for your purposes a Shuttle is a better deal). At the least if you're going to run Windows, it's about $200 of software including the OS, multimedia apps, and productivity apps.
Help me out, where can you find a mini like computer for $249?
Where can you find a 5 pound laptop for $499?
Where can you find a dual 64bit tower for $999?
Where can you find a 64bit desktop with 17" LCD for $649?
I think he was blaming Microsoft, Compaq, and Dell, not Intel, for lack of innovation.
I think you understate the value of small PCs. It's not that people don't care; it's that no small PCs were sold! There is also a second problem; PCs don't have to live in an office, and small PCs solve that problem. You can now place a Mac mini in your kitchen, your living room, your bedroom, AND your office.
Of course the constraint is now the monitor and not the tower, but Apple is working on it I'm sure.
They've done something. If you can grant that Microsoft popularized PCs by making them affordable, then Apple has popularized mp3 players by making them usable, and now SFF by making them affordable.
Shuttle, for example, ships as many units in a year as Apple ships iMacs in a quarter. Think of that 'exposure'. If there were 10 SFF companies out there, most smaller than Shuttle, then the volume of SFF PCs is such that, to the majority of users, no one has ever seen a PC 'smaller than a breadbox'.
So yes, Apple is NEW.
The same logic for the iPod. Prior to the iPod there existed TWO hard drive mp3 players. The Creative Nomad (about the same size as the Mac mini!) was 5"x5"x1.5" and 14 oz. and the PJB 100, at 5"x3"x1" and 10oz. They used regular or laptop hard drives, used USB1, and had awful UIs.
So the first gen iPod was revolutionary: 4"x2.4"x0.78" and 6.56oz, Firewire interface, and a truly usable UI.
They were the only hard drive players you could fit in your pocket.
They were the only hard drive players you could use with one hand.
They were the only hard drive player you could upload your data in less than 10 minutes max.
Now everyone can do it. Before the iPod, you couldn't.
That's because the iPod is it's own computer:
RAM, hard disk, firmware, display, power, serial, and two CPUs.
If you mess with it's boot sector, how will it be able to boot?
That's why I mentioned the MBR; don't touch it, and don't add a boot sector. On OS X, the boot sector happens to be in firmware, and I think you can similarly configure Linux or BSD, though I haven't tried it. (OpenBIOS and LinuxBIOS come to mind)
You still need to thank the heritage of the Zen; without a first gen iPod, your Zen would have looked like a first generation Nomad: About the size of Mac mini.
That was the Creative competition to the first iPod 3 years ago.
Oh, hrm, I've never tried it on Windows.
On Mac all you do is plug it in, insert the OS X CDs, and when you install OS X you tell it to install on the iPod, without formatting your iPod.
If you can do that with Windows (without formatting your iPod) and you have a 'boot from external disk' option in the BIOS, I don't know what would stop you. Except possibly the master boot record... I think Linux or BSD might be more lenient than Windows about that though.
Because the Mac mini shipped. It's why Doom 3 shipping is news, while the milestone of Duke Nukem Forever is not.
Mini ITX boards have been around for years; Mac minis are 1/3 the volume and 1/2 the size. Nano ITX has been announced many months before the Mac mini, but hasn't shipped yet, while the mini has. Even still, when someone took a prototype nano-itx board and tried to fit it into a Mac mini, it was discovered it didn't fit; they hat to saw down the heatsink AND they had to remove the optical drive, so the Mac mini is STILL smaller than nano-itx.
There's nothing revolutionary about the mini, other than it's size AND price; the only similar PC is the Cappuccino PCs, which are slightly smaller, but nearly twice as expensive. Even Shuttle based boxes, which can hold almost 3 Mac minis inside them, cost more.
Yes, a hunk of plastic has more OS flexibility than a PowerPC processor. Yeah, really flexible.
It's only functionality is a clock. That's all it can do. There's no CPU, no motherboard, nothing. It's a mockup of a PC designed to compete with the Mac mini.
My iPod thinks it's a music player, calendar, contacts list, boot CD, and backup CD!
Why isn't yours?
If you're on a budget, I would think a $499 package would be better than Premiere's $699 package, right?
iMovie is only $499 bundled with a Mac mini. There's a lot of reviews for iMovie sans HD, and I'm sure a few with; iMovie is pretty solid for basic NLE (I've used it for weddings, presentations, and DVD quality releases), but most of the 'magic' comes from the camera, cameraman, director, and source material. The NLE can't do anything with crap.
What if you have a shell of this stuff around the airplane; and between the airplane and this shell you have emitters and absorbers?
Essentially all ambient light from outside the shell is passed through and absorbed, while the emitters project the image they want onto and through the shell so that to external viewers the airplane 'disappears'?
It's a high tech equivalent to multiple mirrors: Incident light coming in is redirected away from the plane, and outgoing light is created from a false image.
Possibly by using SMB? The iTunes library is, after all, just a bunch of artist/album/genre folders in your Music folder.
Even that isn't quite right; as long as the sun pumps more energy into our system than we can draw out of it, it is not quite zero sum.
ZSG can be thought the economic equivalent to the second law of thermodynamics; That all things must go to entropy, except for the fact that the sun pumps enough energy into our system to keep things ordered. Likewise, economically, a ZSG means we are running out of resources (each person who uses a resource denies it to another, until we are out of resources) except that the sun keeps producing more food, more fresh water, more oil, etc, through natural processes.
I had to look up BER, and in doing so (alongside with Airport Express) came up with this, which talks about jitter on S/PDIF, so it's not as if this kind of error doesn't plague wires, either.
What you are asking essentially is the ber of the implementation of the underlying protocol; the 802.11b and 802.11g implementations of the Airport Express and the particular wifi card of the person who decided to use an Airport Express.
As far as I can tell, Airport Express uses UDP:5353 for Airtunes, but that's from a quick Google.
It'll take more than $199.
It'll also take a new copy of Windows Media Center; that or a new Media Center PC.
Likely all Apple would require is a free copy of iTunes; of course this assumes your PC is powerful enough, but if it is, then it only will (likely) cost $189.
Microsoft's solution will force you to buy a new PC (I don't know if they sell the Media Center OS standalone, yet), plus the $199 extender. Yes, Microsoft can claim to be first, but I doubt they can claim to be better.
I only point and use the existing Apple Airport Express as my model; a $129 device that only requires a user to have Apple iTunes.