It seems that many mainstream publications have picked up on Linux, one run good general background article on it, and then waited a few months to run a gloom-and-doom article dismissing it (usually for some drummed-up reason like "Linux is too fragmented" or "Red Hat is another Microsoft"). I'm not sure why they would want to do this, unless they're just fad-crazy and they want to dump Linux in favor of another fad. One thing is for sure: this is sensationalism, not responsible journalism. First it's "Linux is the revolution that will topple Microsoft". Now it's "Linux is all washed up." How about being realistic and trying to find some middle ground? Beer recipe: free! #Source Cold pints: $2 #Product
Thanks for the thoughtful words--not a rant at all. I heartily second mdxi's suggestion about learning a foreign language. It's kind of weird to be discussing it as a decision at all, but that's the way it is here in America--the country's so huge and monoilngual that few people bother.
I can't speak as to the mind-expanding properties of Asian languages (to the Western mind, that is), since I've never studied one, though I've always wanted to do so. In my case, the expanding of vistas was in the realm of culture. Now there are around 20 million extra people who share a whole range of world-views and experiences with me, just by virtue of having lived in Spain in the 90s. Not only that, but I can talk with another 180 million from around the Spanish-speaking world and learn of their unique backgrounds, world-views, and circumstances. I hope I can someday put this knowledge to a less selfish use, and join the Peace Corps in Latin America. Hopefully one of these days I'll strike it rich here in the Silicon Valley and be able to take a year or two off.;)
PS: Another thing mdxi is right about: Knowing a foreign language gets you into all sorts of interesting conversations. People love to try out their proficiency in another language, and they love to learn about the way others think and live. When I was travelling across Europe and living in Spain, I was astounded by people's inborn neophilia. Not just students, but professors, trainyard workers, restaurant owners and waiters, shopkeepers, and especially fellow travelers would strike up conversations with me all the time: Where are you from? What have you seen in Europe? What is (food, women, nature, school) like in America? Travel can give you a great sense of cameraderie with the people of the world and a very good impression of something you would never know otherwise: just how similar and how different people are in different cultures. Those are precious gifts indeed. Beer recipe: free! #Source Cold pints: $2 #Product
OT: Hey, is anyone else surprised that an article posted ~4:00 AM EDT should get 90 comments in an hour? Or am I being too US-centric?
I live in the Silicon Valley. This place is incredibly boring! I seriously didn't have anything more fun to do than hang out at the office and surf around (while building some nice juicy RPMs of the latest nifty software.;) )
Yeah, I know, if I want to have fun I should get off my ass and drive to San Francisco. That's what everyone else in the valley does. But, then, I see you are logged on from college. What's your excuse for not being at a party?;) Beer recipe: free! #Source Cold pints: $2 #Product
Yes, much of the stuff even in college textbooks is bullshit, as I found out from my instructors and, later, from living in Spain. My favorite example is the phrase repita, por favor, which is taught early on in almost every Spanish textbook in the second or third lesson as a way to indicate that you misheard someone. Actually, it's about as abrupt and un-idiomatic as saying Repeat please! in English. (The correct usage, equivalent to the English beg pardon?, is Cómo?) Beer recipe: free! #Source Cold pints: $2 #Product
Using CT, how easy or otherwise is it to bring down or attack vital systems?
I have found that CmdrTaco can bring down almost any system with ease, given a Perl interpreter and a mod_perl enabled Web server. Beer recipe: free! #Source Cold pints: $2 #Product
Thanks for the advice. I agree with (and was already following) most of it, but I had to learn the hard way with a few things, like the roses. People want to be shown that they are appreciated with little tokens like that. Also, I've found that romance takes a lot of work to keep up. I'm happy in a relationship if things are going along day-in, day-out in more or less the same way. This has caused problems with women I've lived with. They often have wanted excitement, adventure, new experiences, et cetera. Because I am focused on a small number of activities I like a lot, I didn't provide those things, and our relationships suffered as a result. It took me a long time to catch onto this.:(
In general, you seem to assume that I haven't had experience with women or dating, which is not true. (In particular, I loved your advice about older women-- I've had three relationships now with women over ten years my senior--I'm 22--and I've loved every minute of them! O.K., except for the breaking-up part.;) ) What I was trying to say, though, is that group relations between women and men can be hard, particularly in the workplace. As I said, I'm not as rowdy as other guys, so I'm not bothered as much. I observe that this causes some guys an awful lot of discomfort, though.
Here's hoping that someday gender boundaries will be non-existent, and everyone can express his or her personality without regard to sex roles.:D
I'm not a college student, I'm a recent graduate and employee of Indiana University, as you could see if you had looked at my Web page. I have already participated in hiring decisions in my work. You can bet that we (the Unix Workstation Support Group) will not be hiring ex-Microsoft people anytime soon.
I asked: Do you have plans for organizing Geeks with Guns outings during [conferences]? If so, is there a mailing list or some other source of information about how to join?
ESR replied: As for GWG, there's no mailing list; would you like to host one? I rely on local organizers to find a range, and I don't have one for Atlanta Linux Showcase yet.
Actually, I don't know anything about guns. I just thought it would be fun to go and learn in a safe environment, and in good company.:) I will be changes jobs and moving (to the Silicon Valley, oh joy:P) in a couple of weeks. As a result, my on-line service will change. Once I'm hooked up again, I would be willing to host a Geeks with Guns mailing list. I'd really rather someone with a better knowledge of firearms host it, though.
If no one else steps forward, I will send a proposal to ESR to post on his home page. All you heavily armed hackers, please look there for info in a couple of weeks.;)
PS: For what they're worth, here are my personal views on guns: I don't own one, and I don't know if I ever will. God forbid that I should ever have to use one even on an animal*, or worse on a fellow human being. In fact, I think the statistics show that societies with strict gun control are much safer than societies without it.
However, I think America is (as in so many other ways) an exceptional case. It is more or less politically impossible to strike down the Second Amendment, and it is practically impossible to recall all the guns owned by individuals. In that light, for responsible and intelligent people who keep their guns in safes, know how to use them, etc., having a gun may well increase personal safety, because there are a lot of crazy people out there who already have guns, and there's nothing we can do about it. This is what sociologists call a "rational choice": Getting a gun (assuming you are smart and responsible) is good for you, but everyone getting guns is bad for everyone, because many people are violently immoral, insane, or not competent to handle firearms (and because many people having guns increases the risk that confrontations will accelerate into gunfire). So what do you do? In this case, the answer for the "good" people who respect firearms and respect human life is, get a gun! Otherwise the only people who are armed will be the criminals, the police (usually good, but sometimes very bad), and scary people generally disposed towards violence. You want to be able to defend yourself against those people.
What can I say? To borrow a phrase from Thomas Jefferson, it's like holding a wolf by its ears. It would be great if the U.S. had had strict gun control from the start, but we didn't, for many good historical reasons, and now I believe we never can. In that light, it's better to arm yourself than to be the only one without a gun.
Q*bert asks: I write: We all know that you are a staunch advocate of libertarianism. Do you see the open-source / free-software movement turning into a larger political push for libertarian, minimal government?
ESR answers: No comment on that first question. But, if you could see my face, I'm wearing a very evil grin....
Well, I have to admit that the open-source movement in particular, and employment in the computer industry in general, have made me more like a libertarian than I used to be. I'm still a pretty traditional European-style socialist when it comes to issues of the welfare state, especially education and health care. But I have more respect for the corporate world, with all its flaws, and more wariness of government in general since I've started working in corporations and since I've seen what the government is trying to do to on-line privacy.
At the same time, participating in this movement has given me an immense feeling of empowerment. I now find I have a very strong do-it-yourself attitude that makes me tend to seek solutions to social problems on a grass-roots, direct-action level, not through government. This is certainly a libertarian mentality.
PS: In addition, I believe that certain fundamental features of U.S. government make it harder for anyone but the centrists to express their views, and lead to deadlock: namely the two-party system, majority rather than proportional representation in the House, and the district system. I think that Americans who do not understand these distinctions should study them and consider them very seriously. (I'd be glad to explain them to anyone who em-mails me, too.:) )
I really think they are a problem. You Europeans, of course, don't have to study it, since you already have the "classic parlaimentary" government with all three alternate features.
How about a completely customizable, self-directed rating system? It works like this: People view stuff on-line. They think about what they've seen. They make judgments on the basis of their moral systems, experience, and common sense, and then they decide whether to keep reading. If they don't like what they see, they go somewhere else. I think I'll call it my think for your motherfucking self protocol (TFYMFSP). What do you think?
You should be smart enough to know that your sample size is too small for you to make a judgment. There are plenty of attractive geeky women out there in the world--I've met hundreds and hundreds of geeks at school, at work, and most of all at trade shows. The female programmers and administrators are attractive by my standards just as often as women in society at large.
Lord Byron was her father. Mary Wollstonecraft, a.k.a. Mary Shelley, author of Frankenstein (the world's first science fiction novel) was Ada's mother.
Maybe Abigail is a transsexual. There are such people in the world, you know. When I was working at IBM, the most brilliant engineer I worked with was a male-to-female transsexual or transvestite (not sure which-- I didn't think it would be appropriate to ask).
Two - Ooooh! a female with a clue. She wants to go to bed with me. She really will be thrilled to be informed that i'm her best ambition in life, and heck, i get a new bed buddy out of the deal.
Oh, come on. You can't blame us for being turned on by women with brains! I mean, I certainly don't endorse the kind of partronizing attitude you describe here, but I think it is possible to be romantically interested in a woman and express your interest in polite, socially acceptable ways. Ultimately, you can't have it both ways: If men want you as a co-worker and as a friend because of your intelligence, they'll likely want you as a lover for the same reason. That doesn't mean they have to make blatant passes at you at work or abuse their authority in some nasty way, but it does mean they might ask you out once in a while! Sheesh!
It is tough to stand out in any crowd, and given the current situation, that is what happens to women who are brave enough to try.
But doesn't it happen to us men, too?
The other points you make, I think, are very good. When I hang out with other men, there's often a lot of kidding (usually at someone else's expense), bawdy joking, appraisals of attractive women,and general rough goofing around. I don't tend to be that way by default (O.K., except for the women part;) ), but I think that's mostyl because I grew up with no brothers. It would be swell if we could act the same way around women, because then lots of men would feel less inhibited and there would be more general rapport. However, we often don't try it for fear of reprisal, and we never do it at work, because we're all scared stiff of sexual harassment suits. Every once in a while there's a spirited woman who overcomes the barrier by joining in the goofy horseplay of her own accord--often a lesbian--but all too often we follow two social modes: male-to-male and male-to-female. It's a damn shame.
Or milder, but just as bad, have them grow up thinking that pornography is harmless and a normal expression of sexuality
Funny, I've always thought that, and I'm a well-adjusted, pacifistic honors college graduate with a good programming job and loving, stable relationships with his parents and his girlfriend. Maybe it takes another ten years or so for the depraving influence of porn to kick in, eh?
And the fact is that you can't watch your kids all the time. You have to sleep sometime.
Bingo. No matter what you do, they will find a way around it. Worse yet, they will be more inclined to seek out those things you forbid, because of normal childhood contrariness. The only solution is to teach them to think for themselves, and to tell them that BDSM and coprophilia aren't normal sex (not that there's anything wrong with either, or with being other than normal). Yes, that's right, you'll have to talk honestly and openly with your kids about sex. If you can't deal with that, you should never have had them in the first place. You'll also have to accept that you don't have complete control over your kids' lives--nor should you. They must grow up with control over their own thoughts, so that they can become responsible and self-directed adults.
pornography treats people as objects. I though that was something geeks were against?
Jokes about object-orientation aside, I think this is wrong. Pornography does not absolutely objectify people. It casts people in a certain role, the role of providing you, the voyeur, with erotic thrills. This is no more objectification than basketball with its roles of providing you, the fan, with the thrill of the game. Do we consider it objectification to think of Michael Jordan first and foremost as a basketball player? No? Then why should we condemn people for thinking of porn stars in primarily sexual contexts?
I think the whole, tired "object" argument is used only by people who think, deep down, that there's something dirty or degrading about sex. If that's your opinion, it's your right to maintain it, but don't go expecting me or anyone else to buy it.
Normally, I would agree with Roblimo's didactic statement about journalistic independence. However, I think Microsoft is an exception. They have a long and well-documented history of shocking abuses. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but when someone suggested that the recent Linux-versus-BSD article on MSNBC was an attempt to fragment the free software movement, I was willing to believe it. This is the company that has faked demos for court, paid off professors to drop its name in class, muscled OEMs into bundling its OS exclusively, devoted huge development efforts to a free browser just to crush a potential competitor, and made umpteen deliberately non-compliant variants of protocols just to break third-party products. They know no morality. I don't trust them any further than I'd trust Pol Pot.
The point of the 4.5 series is to tide the peasants over until Mozilla is ready to ravage the countryside.;)
Seriously, the first thing Netscape did after deciding to open-source Mozilla was to clean up all the old code and assemble one last release. This was doubtless a good idea: 4.5 and up are already lagging behind Internet Explorer. 'Course, that's in DOM, CSS, and XML, not the stuff your average Joe sees on the 'Net (yet). Still, it is imperative that Mozilla come soon, before there's lots of such content out there. Otherwise, think about how Microsoft could break it with, aherm, decommoditized standards . . .
I worked on the framework for this application during the summer. It's much more than a transcoding engine; as the article hints, it's a completely programmable proxy with a plugin API. With it, you can do dynamic HTML not only on the server side but anywhere along the network path of the data flow, allowing for extreme flexibility. For one thing, it allows you to build "Web middleware": grab content from a dynamic site, format it in some way, then pass it along to the client, which may custom-format your formatted text as well. In other words, data can be changed by many compatible third-party agents according to the user's preferences. Imagine being able to customize the Web completely (e.g. to make Slashdot "come in colors everywhere", replacing that ugly green;) ) . . . with this program, you can do it.
What conferences are you planning to attend this year? Do you have plans for organizing Geeks with Guns outings during them? If so, is there a mailing list or some other source of information about how to join?
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It seems that many mainstream publications have picked up on Linux, one run good general background article on it, and then waited a few months to run a gloom-and-doom article dismissing it (usually for some drummed-up reason like "Linux is too fragmented" or "Red Hat is another Microsoft"). I'm not sure why they would want to do this, unless they're just fad-crazy and they want to dump Linux in favor of another fad. One thing is for sure: this is sensationalism, not responsible journalism. First it's "Linux is the revolution that will topple Microsoft". Now it's "Linux is all washed up." How about being realistic and trying to find some middle ground?
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I can't speak as to the mind-expanding properties of Asian languages (to the Western mind, that is), since I've never studied one, though I've always wanted to do so. In my case, the expanding of vistas was in the realm of culture. Now there are around 20 million extra people who share a whole range of world-views and experiences with me, just by virtue of having lived in Spain in the 90s. Not only that, but I can talk with another 180 million from around the Spanish-speaking world and learn of their unique backgrounds, world-views, and circumstances. I hope I can someday put this knowledge to a less selfish use, and join the Peace Corps in Latin America. Hopefully one of these days I'll strike it rich here in the Silicon Valley and be able to take a year or two off. ;)
PS: Another thing mdxi is right about: Knowing a foreign language gets you into all sorts of interesting conversations. People love to try out their proficiency in another language, and they love to learn about the way others think and live. When I was travelling across Europe and living in Spain, I was astounded by people's inborn neophilia. Not just students, but professors, trainyard workers, restaurant owners and waiters, shopkeepers, and especially fellow travelers would strike up conversations with me all the time: Where are you from? What have you seen in Europe? What is (food, women, nature, school) like in America? Travel can give you a great sense of cameraderie with the people of the world and a very good impression of something you would never know otherwise: just how similar and how different people are in different cultures. Those are precious gifts indeed.
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I live in the Silicon Valley. This place is incredibly boring! I seriously didn't have anything more fun to do than hang out at the office and surf around (while building some nice juicy RPMs of the latest nifty software. ;) )
Yeah, I know, if I want to have fun I should get off my ass and drive to San Francisco. That's what everyone else in the valley does. But, then, I see you are logged on from college. What's your excuse for not being at a party? ;)
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Yes, much of the stuff even in college textbooks is bullshit, as I found out from my instructors and, later, from living in Spain. My favorite example is the phrase repita, por favor, which is taught early on in almost every Spanish textbook in the second or third lesson as a way to indicate that you misheard someone. Actually, it's about as abrupt and un-idiomatic as saying Repeat please! in English. (The correct usage, equivalent to the English beg pardon?, is Cómo?)
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You bastards!
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In general, you seem to assume that I haven't had experience with women or dating, which is not true. (In particular, I loved your advice about older women-- I've had three relationships now with women over ten years my senior--I'm 22--and I've loved every minute of them! O.K., except for the breaking-up part. ;) ) What I was trying to say, though, is that group relations between women and men can be hard, particularly in the workplace. As I said, I'm not as rowdy as other guys, so I'm not bothered as much. I observe that this causes some guys an awful lot of discomfort, though.
Here's hoping that someday gender boundaries will be non-existent, and everyone can express his or her personality without regard to sex roles. :D
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Do you have plans for organizing Geeks with Guns outings during [conferences]? If so, is there a mailing list or some other source of information about how to join?
ESR replied:
As for GWG, there's no mailing list; would you like to host one? I rely on local organizers to find a range, and I don't have one for Atlanta Linux Showcase yet.
Actually, I don't know anything about guns. I just thought it would be fun to go and learn in a safe environment, and in good company. :) I will be changes jobs and moving (to the Silicon Valley, oh joy :P) in a couple of weeks. As a result, my on-line service will change. Once I'm hooked up again, I would be willing to host a Geeks with Guns mailing list. I'd really rather someone with a better knowledge of firearms host it, though.
If no one else steps forward, I will send a proposal to ESR to post on his home page. All you heavily armed hackers, please look there for info in a couple of weeks. ;)
PS: For what they're worth, here are my personal views on guns: I don't own one, and I don't know if I ever will. God forbid that I should ever have to use one even on an animal*, or worse on a fellow human being. In fact, I think the statistics show that societies with strict gun control are much safer than societies without it.
However, I think America is (as in so many other ways) an exceptional case. It is more or less politically impossible to strike down the Second Amendment, and it is practically impossible to recall all the guns owned by individuals. In that light, for responsible and intelligent people who keep their guns in safes, know how to use them, etc., having a gun may well increase personal safety, because there are a lot of crazy people out there who already have guns, and there's nothing we can do about it. This is what sociologists call a "rational choice": Getting a gun (assuming you are smart and responsible) is good for you, but everyone getting guns is bad for everyone, because many people are violently immoral, insane, or not competent to handle firearms (and because many people having guns increases the risk that confrontations will accelerate into gunfire). So what do you do? In this case, the answer for the "good" people who respect firearms and respect human life is, get a gun! Otherwise the only people who are armed will be the criminals, the police (usually good, but sometimes very bad), and scary people generally disposed towards violence. You want to be able to defend yourself against those people.
What can I say? To borrow a phrase from Thomas Jefferson, it's like holding a wolf by its ears. It would be great if the U.S. had had strict gun control from the start, but we didn't, for many good historical reasons, and now I believe we never can. In that light, it's better to arm yourself than to be the only one without a gun.
*I am an "ethical" vegetarian.
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We all know that you are a staunch advocate of libertarianism. Do you see the open-source / free-software movement turning into a larger political push for libertarian, minimal government?
ESR answers:
No comment on that first question. But, if you could see my face, I'm wearing a very evil grin....
Well, I have to admit that the open-source movement in particular, and employment in the computer industry in general, have made me more like a libertarian than I used to be. I'm still a pretty traditional European-style socialist when it comes to issues of the welfare state, especially education and health care. But I have more respect for the corporate world, with all its flaws, and more wariness of government in general since I've started working in corporations and since I've seen what the government is trying to do to on-line privacy.
At the same time, participating in this movement has given me an immense feeling of empowerment. I now find I have a very strong do-it-yourself attitude that makes me tend to seek solutions to social problems on a grass-roots, direct-action level, not through government. This is certainly a libertarian mentality.
PS: In addition, I believe that certain fundamental features of U.S. government make it harder for anyone but the centrists to express their views, and lead to deadlock: namely the two-party system, majority rather than proportional representation in the House, and the district system. I think that Americans who do not understand these distinctions should study them and consider them very seriously. (I'd be glad to explain them to anyone who em-mails me, too. :) )
I really think they are a problem. You Europeans, of course, don't have to study it, since you already have the "classic parlaimentary" government with all three alternate features.
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Lord Byron was her father. Mary Wollstonecraft, a.k.a. Mary Shelley, author of Frankenstein (the world's first science fiction novel) was Ada's mother.
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Oh, come on. You can't blame us for being turned on by women with brains! I mean, I certainly don't endorse the kind of partronizing attitude you describe here, but I think it is possible to be romantically interested in a woman and express your interest in polite, socially acceptable ways. Ultimately, you can't have it both ways: If men want you as a co-worker and as a friend because of your intelligence, they'll likely want you as a lover for the same reason. That doesn't mean they have to make blatant passes at you at work or abuse their authority in some nasty way, but it does mean they might ask you out once in a while! Sheesh!
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Aw, fess up, you just want an excuse to buy them yourself. ;)
Just kidding...
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But doesn't it happen to us men, too?
The other points you make, I think, are very good. When I hang out with other men, there's often a lot of kidding (usually at someone else's expense), bawdy joking, appraisals of attractive women,and general rough goofing around. I don't tend to be that way by default (O.K., except for the women part ;) ), but I think that's mostyl because I grew up with no brothers. It would be swell if we could act the same way around women, because then lots of men would feel less inhibited and there would be more general rapport. However, we often don't try it for fear of reprisal, and we never do it at work, because we're all scared stiff of sexual harassment suits. Every once in a while there's a spirited woman who overcomes the barrier by joining in the goofy horseplay of her own accord--often a lesbian--but all too often we follow two social modes: male-to-male and male-to-female. It's a damn shame.
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Funny, I've always thought that, and I'm a well-adjusted, pacifistic honors college graduate with a good programming job and loving, stable relationships with his parents and his girlfriend. Maybe it takes another ten years or so for the depraving influence of porn to kick in, eh?
And the fact is that you can't watch your kids all the time. You have to sleep sometime.
Bingo. No matter what you do, they will find a way around it. Worse yet, they will be more inclined to seek out those things you forbid, because of normal childhood contrariness. The only solution is to teach them to think for themselves, and to tell them that BDSM and coprophilia aren't normal sex (not that there's anything wrong with either, or with being other than normal). Yes, that's right, you'll have to talk honestly and openly with your kids about sex. If you can't deal with that, you should never have had them in the first place. You'll also have to accept that you don't have complete control over your kids' lives--nor should you. They must grow up with control over their own thoughts, so that they can become responsible and self-directed adults.
pornography treats people as objects. I though that was something geeks were against?
Jokes about object-orientation aside, I think this is wrong. Pornography does not absolutely objectify people. It casts people in a certain role, the role of providing you, the voyeur, with erotic thrills. This is no more objectification than basketball with its roles of providing you, the fan, with the thrill of the game. Do we consider it objectification to think of Michael Jordan first and foremost as a basketball player? No? Then why should we condemn people for thinking of porn stars in primarily sexual contexts?
I think the whole, tired "object" argument is used only by people who think, deep down, that there's something dirty or degrading about sex. If that's your opinion, it's your right to maintain it, but don't go expecting me or anyone else to buy it.
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Seriously, the first thing Netscape did after deciding to open-source Mozilla was to clean up all the old code and assemble one last release. This was doubtless a good idea: 4.5 and up are already lagging behind Internet Explorer. 'Course, that's in DOM, CSS, and XML, not the stuff your average Joe sees on the 'Net (yet). Still, it is imperative that Mozilla come soon, before there's lots of such content out there. Otherwise, think about how Microsoft could break it with, aherm, decommoditized standards . . .
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9.5: thousands of useless mainframe programmers, suddenly unemployed again, cause riots in major cities.
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