I believe UltraVnc (what I use, mostly) has an ecryption plugin?
as for services--I don't believe any of the SSH clients can run as a service.. I'd be very surprised if there isn't some software out there that could do that though--would be a good project:-p
Why can't you tunnel SSH on windows? There are tons of ssh apps. My personal favorite is from www.ssh.com, but then there's F-secure, Teraterm, and the perennial favorite--putty.
1771 LUCKOMBE Hist. Print. 76 They..would suffer by this act of piracy, since it was likely to prove a very bad edition. 1808 Med. Jrnl. XIX. 520 He is charged with 'Literary Piracy', and an 'unprincipled suppression of the source from whence he drew his information'. 1855 BREWSTER Newton I. iv. 71 With the view of securing his invention of the telescope from foreign piracy.
1706 DE FOE Jure Div. Pref. 42 Gentlemen-Booksellers, that threatned to Pyrate it, as they call it, viz. Reprint it, and Sell it for half a Crown. 1754 Connoisseur No. 38 6 To prevent his design being pirated, he intends petitioning the Parliament. 1850 CHUBB Locks & Keys 36 He had no right to pirate a peculiar trade mark. 1884 American VII. 318 The injustice done by American publishers in pirating English works. 1968 Blues Unlimited Nov. 6 They're not selling records, for fear they would be pirated! 1977 Belfast Tel. 17 Jan. 8/4 Under the European Television Agreement of 1953 most countries agreed not to 'pirate' programmes broadcast by companies from other nations. 1979 Guardian 25 Aug. 24/1 'Pirating' involves the copying, for sale to the public, of existing records without the consent of the copyright owners.
Hence pirated ppl. a.; spec. pirated edition, an edition of a book produced without authorization; pirating vbl. n. and ppl. a.
1697 tr. C'tess D'Aunoy's Trav. (1706) 77 One day, as Meluza came from Pyrating, he brought [etc.]. 1727 A. HAMILTON New Acc. E. Ind. I. xii. 140 The English went to burn that Village and their pirating Vessels. 1731 GAY Let. to Swift 1 Dec., I have had an injunction for me against pirating-booksellers. 1737 BYROM Jrnl. & Lit. Rem. (1856) II. I. 133 To put out a pirated edition. 1853 C. M. SMITH Working Man's Way in World iv. 56 (heading) Pirated editions of Scott's novels. 1883 American VI. 44 A pirated extract from a paper published some fifteen years ago. 1902 Daily Chron. 18 Dec. 3/2 The pirating of woodcuts in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. 1928 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 5 Dec. (1962) II. 1103, I hear from Stieglitz there are two pirated editions, photographed from my edition, and with forged signatures. Ibid. 10 Dec. 1105, I hear London and Paris are both selling the pirated editions of Lady C. at £3 and £2. 1928 A. HUXLEY Let. 12 Dec. (1969) 304 Dear Lawrence, What an intolerable business about the pirating of Lady C.! 1952 J. CARTER ABC for Bk.-Collectors 135 Pirated edition,..a term commonly applied (sometimes with, sometimes without, legal accuracy) to an edition produced and marketed without the authority of, or payment to, the author. 1959 L. M. HARROD Librarians' Gloss. (ed. 2) 286 A pirated edition is an unauthorized reprint involving an infringement of copyright. 1967 Listener 28 Sept. 413/2 After hearing this performanceand a pirated tape of his 1953 Covent Garden Aidait seems incredible that Barbirolli has been allowed to languish outside the opera house for 13 years. 1973 Times 17 Oct. 11/3 The records have been issued in Paris, but not here. It is as bad as Russia, where people listen to me on pirated versions. 1975 Times Lit. Suppl. 13 June 678/2 British efforts to influence Parliament to protect British books against the importation of foreign pirated editions.
Sure, I already listed the example of banning of nazi expression and owning of anything that could be considered nazi paraphanelia. Another example would be the laws in France that forbid "inciting religious hatred" and have recently been used to attempt to quash a book critical of Islam. Give up a little freedom for security?
Mandatory fingerprinting for everyone in the EU and biometric fingerprinting? Looks like it's going to happen, and that's pretty extreme to me.
Additionally in France, students that can't afford private school and must attend public school are not allowed to wear symbols of their religion.. again, unthinkable to most Americans.
And heck, then there's the issue of... well, this article. For all the ranting about PATRIOT etc, Europe has come up with something much more intrusive and overbearing..and yet I see America being criticized more than EU? Why is that?
And what, do the Nederlands and UK not count as part of the EU?
And I've entirely avoided questions of economic freedom, I could on much, much longer on that subject if you would like.
This is all without googling. I wonder what I would find if I googled each EU country? hmm..
FWIW, I fear ALL governments. The mistake is made by mayn Europeans (as well as American academe which at its core wants to follow European intellectual trends) that ther only government worth fearing is the US government.
1. Have you ever gone over the speed limit in a car? Do you want to be monitored 24/7 so if you do, the government can simply issue you a remote fine?
No, I don't want to be monitored, but..it WOULD be fair.
2. Do you mind having government cameras in your home 24/7? How about in your bedroom, shower or toilet? After all, you have nothing to hide. Right? If you don't want cameras in your home, you must be conspiring against the government. Right?
I don't see the connection between cameras in the house and a national ID card as an example. I guess it's a decent point, but a little alarmist sounding (conspiracy theorist like)
3. Why is it that it's ok to have citizens watched 24/7, yet you can't see the footage and for some reason, no politicians seem to be surveilled?
I don't like this argument either. Who would argue that it's not ok for the police to watch criminals? Likewise, if the police was watching you, would you want anyone to be able to download the video off the internet? I don't think so.. Likewise, politicians are probably the most recorded people around.
4. Why shouldn't the insurance companies know about your entire medical, driving and social records, all the time, so they can dynamically adjust your risk status and increase payments as necessary?
Would probably be more fair that way...
5. Why do you need a secret ballot to vote for your politicians?
That's a decent one.
6. Shouldn't the politicians be doing your bidding, not ruling you?
Hmm.. not sure about this one. I elect a politician to lead, not do my bidding. I don't really think that's the point of electing people to office.
Yes, the draft bill was created by Hollings, Rangel and Conyers (you might remember Hollings from such awesome bills as the SSSCA), 3 democratic senators, purely as a FUD manuever. That's all it is--FUD.
You're right--it is quite hard for us to understand. What is perhaps most difficult for us to understand is how many Europeans on slashdot can insult the US for things like the Patriot act (giving up a little freedom for security? DASTARDLY!) when the exact same thing is happening in Europe.
And what does your sig mean? "US Freedom of Speech - it's their only freedom and they'll make the goddamm most of it!" For one thing that's simply not true (and I'd love to argue the point with you if you're interested) and secondly, what is it in your psyche that makes you feel the need to advertise with some petty attack on America?
I'm glad you somehow managed to blame the US for this.
Hell, nazism, fascism, dictatorships--did america cause them too?
It's just complete nonsense to pretend that Europe (as if there was a European standard) has a perfect and completely enviable record of privacy, rights, etc. Britain for instance has more cameras per capita than any other country i believe? Germany and France both outlaw large degrees of expression, as well as historical collection (one e.g. -- nazi peraphanelia).
The U.S. is by no means perfect, but just calm down before you go rabid anti-US.
Unfortunately you can't blame "the media industry" on the term piracy, as piracy used to describe illegal copying dates back at least to the 1600's, and probably earlier. Can't blame RIAA for this one;)
FWIW, piracy as a term used to describe illegal copying of works goes back to the 1600's with written examples, and indications that the term had been adopted earlier. This is hardly a new term.
This, despite protestations to the contrary, is NOT a new usage. The OED gives usage examples of piracy / pirate in the context of written works going back to the 17th century, with indications that usage existed even earlier.
Piracy as applied to radio goes back to at least 1913.
This is one term you CAN'T blame on the RIAA:-p
(and I'd be happy to provide citations if you'd like)
Judging from the outrage many on slashdot express every time the RIAA sends out more subpoenas, I don't know that a lot of people would agree with that statement:-p
I'll be moving up to Chicago next month, and both times I've visited so far I've seen hundreds of things like "Mayor Daley welcomes you to Chicago!" "This Chicago Transit Authority bus brought to you by Mayor Daley!" "Mayor Daley Police Station #143!"
It seems like one can hardly go 5 feet without seeing a Mayor Daley sign:-p
It was a mess before recent events - read about Sonny Bono and the silly copyright extension act that bears his name.
Yes, yet again I refer you to this very act, the Berne Convention, and EU copyright law. This is what I have been trying to tell you.
And I can see the second part hasn't made an impact either (nice job with Godwin's law btw, that did get a chuckle;). The point was to illustrate one crime that is clearly a crime, and then show how this case is exactly analagous to it in action, if not in severity. Crimes were committed on computers in the US, on internet pipes in the US, with software produced in the US, in league with US citizens living in the US. That's really all that needs to be known--if you'd like I'll happily leave it at that and withdraw my example, but I doubt either way will make a difference for your understanding of the case (and since you didn't actually respond to any of my points w.r.t. the crimes committed here, I'm assuming this conversation is now at an end:p)
and Moridineasland didn't really have the same ring to it;)
US Copyright laws were synchronized with EU laws. Sonny Bono - the famous European? Be serious - the US copyright mess is it's own.
It's not my job to educate you--if you're not willing to read about the issues there's not point having a discussion with you. The US copyright "mess" was brought up to the EU standard, and in fact remains less reaching than the EU extensions, as it was not retroactive to works that had already expired. See also the Berne convention on copyright.
So selling copied software is the same as child sex slavery? I'm missing something here.
That is abundantly obvious (that you are missing something)--else you wouldn 't be attempting to make the point that you are. The point is, crimes committed on US soil or with US citizens on US soil, or to property on US soil, etc is prosecutable by the US. And when I write "the US" I really mean any country. This DoD guy was commiting crimes against companies in the US, and, most importantly, some/many of the "transactions" were occurring on computers, and with people located in the US. Now, if he had never posted files on computers in the US, etc, things could be different--but he did, and it's not.
The point about the child sex example was to use a crime that very, VERY few people don't think of as wrong--in an attempt to view the problem not from a slashdotist fad point of view, but a logical legal one.
Actually your statements are not particularly factual. The nation that keeps changing their copyright law to protect profits from MM? Try reading some facts. US Copyright laws were synchronized with EU laws.
Since you don't seem to understand this case either I shall make an analogy..let's make up a country caled dbIIIland, where it is legal to sell child prostitutes. Now let's say dbiiiland offered said service to US citizens IN the US--remember now that all operations are based out of dbiiiland, yet transactions occur in the US. This is clearly illegal, and clearly akin to what happened here.
That's stupid--people were willing to go to duke before the ipod, what difference does it make? hell, I'd say a good minimum 1/10 -> 1/4 of the studnet population already HAS an ipod at duke.
the argument would go that you're paying for a quality education. Whether that's worth $160k is another question...I can tell you a substantial number of people i know from the 2004 graduating class will be making rather large salaries this upcoming year, and or doing graduate studies. it's a tradeoff.
though we're not talking undergrads--iirc, a duke law grad can expect to make an AVERAGE starting salary of abour 110k.
I could be wrong--I know I've been using Font Smoothing at least that long--it was originally only available as part of a plus pack that was pretty widely promulgated.
Absolutely I agree with--I was careful to avoid saying that fonts on nix/bsd/kde/gnome/whatever CAN'T look good--it just usually seems to take a good bit of work!
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I believe UltraVnc (what I use, mostly) has an ecryption plugin?
:-p
as for services--I don't believe any of the SSH clients can run as a service.. I'd be very surprised if there isn't some software out there that could do that though--would be a good project
Why boycott SP2?
Why can't you tunnel SSH on windows? There are tons of ssh apps. My personal favorite is from www.ssh.com, but then there's F-secure, Teraterm, and the perennial favorite--putty.
I'm glad you asked, I sure do!
1771 LUCKOMBE Hist. Print. 76 They..would suffer by this act of piracy, since it was likely to prove a very bad edition. 1808 Med. Jrnl. XIX. 520 He is charged with 'Literary Piracy', and an 'unprincipled suppression of the source from whence he drew his information'. 1855 BREWSTER Newton I. iv. 71 With the view of securing his invention of the telescope from foreign piracy.
1706 DE FOE Jure Div. Pref. 42 Gentlemen-Booksellers, that threatned to Pyrate it, as they call it, viz. Reprint it, and Sell it for half a Crown. 1754 Connoisseur No. 38 6 To prevent his design being pirated, he intends petitioning the Parliament. 1850 CHUBB Locks & Keys 36 He had no right to pirate a peculiar trade mark. 1884 American VII. 318 The injustice done by American publishers in pirating English works. 1968 Blues Unlimited Nov. 6 They're not selling records, for fear they would be pirated! 1977 Belfast Tel. 17 Jan. 8/4 Under the European Television Agreement of 1953 most countries agreed not to 'pirate' programmes broadcast by companies from other nations. 1979 Guardian 25 Aug. 24/1 'Pirating' involves the copying, for sale to the public, of existing records without the consent of the copyright owners.
Hence pirated ppl. a.; spec. pirated edition, an edition of a book produced without authorization; pirating vbl. n. and ppl. a.
1697 tr. C'tess D'Aunoy's Trav. (1706) 77 One day, as Meluza came from Pyrating, he brought [etc.]. 1727 A. HAMILTON New Acc. E. Ind. I. xii. 140 The English went to burn that Village and their pirating Vessels. 1731 GAY Let. to Swift 1 Dec., I have had an injunction for me against pirating-booksellers. 1737 BYROM Jrnl. & Lit. Rem. (1856) II. I. 133 To put out a pirated edition. 1853 C. M. SMITH Working Man's Way in World iv. 56 (heading) Pirated editions of Scott's novels. 1883 American VI. 44 A pirated extract from a paper published some fifteen years ago. 1902 Daily Chron. 18 Dec. 3/2 The pirating of woodcuts in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. 1928 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 5 Dec. (1962) II. 1103, I hear from Stieglitz there are two pirated editions, photographed from my edition, and with forged signatures. Ibid. 10 Dec. 1105, I hear London and Paris are both selling the pirated editions of Lady C. at £3 and £2. 1928 A. HUXLEY Let. 12 Dec. (1969) 304 Dear Lawrence, What an intolerable business about the pirating of Lady C.! 1952 J. CARTER ABC for Bk.-Collectors 135 Pirated edition,..a term commonly applied (sometimes with, sometimes without, legal accuracy) to an edition produced and marketed without the authority of, or payment to, the author. 1959 L. M. HARROD Librarians' Gloss. (ed. 2) 286 A pirated edition is an unauthorized reprint involving an infringement of copyright. 1967 Listener 28 Sept. 413/2 After hearing this performanceand a pirated tape of his 1953 Covent Garden Aidait seems incredible that Barbirolli has been allowed to languish outside the opera house for 13 years. 1973 Times 17 Oct. 11/3 The records have been issued in Paris, but not here. It is as bad as Russia, where people listen to me on pirated versions. 1975 Times Lit. Suppl. 13 June 678/2 British efforts to influence Parliament to protect British books against the importation of foreign pirated editions.
Sure, I already listed the example of banning of nazi expression and owning of anything that could be considered nazi paraphanelia. Another example would be the laws in France that forbid "inciting religious hatred" and have recently been used to attempt to quash a book critical of Islam. Give up a little freedom for security?
Mandatory fingerprinting for everyone in the EU and biometric fingerprinting? Looks like it's going to happen, and that's pretty extreme to me.
Additionally in France, students that can't afford private school and must attend public school are not allowed to wear symbols of their religion.. again, unthinkable to most Americans.
And heck, then there's the issue of ... well, this article. For all the ranting about PATRIOT etc, Europe has come up with something much more intrusive and overbearing..and yet I see America being criticized more than EU? Why is that?
And what, do the Nederlands and UK not count as part of the EU?
And I've entirely avoided questions of economic freedom, I could on much, much longer on that subject if you would like.
This is all without googling. I wonder what I would find if I googled each EU country? hmm..
Are you calling me jingoistic? :-p
FWIW, I fear ALL governments. The mistake is made by mayn Europeans (as well as American academe which at its core wants to follow European intellectual trends) that ther only government worth fearing is the US government.
1. Have you ever gone over the speed limit in a car? Do you want to be monitored 24/7 so if you do, the government can simply issue you a remote fine?
No, I don't want to be monitored, but..it WOULD be fair.
2. Do you mind having government cameras in your home 24/7? How about in your bedroom, shower or toilet? After all, you have nothing to hide. Right? If you don't want cameras in your home, you must be conspiring against the government. Right?
I don't see the connection between cameras in the house and a national ID card as an example. I guess it's a decent point, but a little alarmist sounding (conspiracy theorist like)
3. Why is it that it's ok to have citizens watched 24/7, yet you can't see the footage and for some reason, no politicians seem to be surveilled?
I don't like this argument either. Who would argue that it's not ok for the police to watch criminals? Likewise, if the police was watching you, would you want anyone to be able to download the video off the internet? I don't think so.. Likewise, politicians are probably the most recorded people around.
4. Why shouldn't the insurance companies know about your entire medical, driving and social records, all the time, so they can dynamically adjust your risk status and increase payments as necessary?
Would probably be more fair that way...
5. Why do you need a secret ballot to vote for your politicians?
That's a decent one.
6. Shouldn't the politicians be doing your bidding, not ruling you?
Hmm.. not sure about this one. I elect a politician to lead, not do my bidding. I don't really think that's the point of electing people to office.
Yes, the draft bill was created by Hollings, Rangel and Conyers (you might remember Hollings from such awesome bills as the SSSCA), 3 democratic senators, purely as a FUD manuever. That's all it is--FUD.
You're right--it is quite hard for us to understand. What is perhaps most difficult for us to understand is how many Europeans on slashdot can insult the US for things like the Patriot act (giving up a little freedom for security? DASTARDLY!) when the exact same thing is happening in Europe.
And what does your sig mean? "US Freedom of Speech - it's their only freedom and they'll make the goddamm most of it!" For one thing that's simply not true (and I'd love to argue the point with you if you're interested) and secondly, what is it in your psyche that makes you feel the need to advertise with some petty attack on America?
snoooooooore, I bet you also think the draft is about to be reinstated and the fbi has a file on YOU.
I'm glad you somehow managed to blame the US for this.
Hell, nazism, fascism, dictatorships--did america cause them too?
It's just complete nonsense to pretend that Europe (as if there was a European standard) has a perfect and completely enviable record of privacy, rights, etc. Britain for instance has more cameras per capita than any other country i believe? Germany and France both outlaw large degrees of expression, as well as historical collection (one e.g. -- nazi peraphanelia).
The U.S. is by no means perfect, but just calm down before you go rabid anti-US.
Unfortunately you can't blame "the media industry" on the term piracy, as piracy used to describe illegal copying dates back at least to the 1600's, and probably earlier. Can't blame RIAA for this one ;)
FWIW, piracy as a term used to describe illegal copying of works goes back to the 1600's with written examples, and indications that the term had been adopted earlier. This is hardly a new term.
This, despite protestations to the contrary, is NOT a new usage. The OED gives usage examples of piracy / pirate in the context of written works going back to the 17th century, with indications that usage existed even earlier.
:-p
Piracy as applied to radio goes back to at least 1913.
This is one term you CAN'T blame on the RIAA
(and I'd be happy to provide citations if you'd like)
Judging from the outrage many on slashdot express every time the RIAA sends out more subpoenas, I don't know that a lot of people would agree with that statement :-p
I'm curious about this too!
:-p
I'll be moving up to Chicago next month, and both times I've visited so far I've seen hundreds of things like "Mayor Daley welcomes you to Chicago!" "This Chicago Transit Authority bus brought to you by Mayor Daley!" "Mayor Daley Police Station #143!"
It seems like one can hardly go 5 feet without seeing a Mayor Daley sign
I would probably simply wait (as others have suggested for 5.3).
h andbook/index.html for info on all things FreeBSD, as well as Linux binary support.
though I'm running a 5.2.1 server and it runs fine--5.3 has a number of goodies like X.org default, much better SMP support, etc.
Check out the FreeBSD handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/
It was a mess before recent events - read about Sonny Bono and the silly copyright extension act that bears his name.
Yes, yet again I refer you to this very act, the Berne Convention, and EU copyright law. This is what I have been trying to tell you.
And I can see the second part hasn't made an impact either (nice job with Godwin's law btw, that did get a chuckle ;). The point was to illustrate one crime that is clearly a crime, and then show how this case is exactly analagous to it in action, if not in severity. Crimes were committed on computers in the US, on internet pipes in the US, with software produced in the US, in league with US citizens living in the US. That's really all that needs to be known--if you'd like I'll happily leave it at that and withdraw my example, but I doubt either way will make a difference for your understanding of the case (and since you didn't actually respond to any of my points w.r.t. the crimes committed here, I'm assuming this conversation is now at an end :p)
and Moridineasland didn't really have the same ring to it ;)
US Copyright laws were synchronized with EU laws.
Sonny Bono - the famous European? Be serious - the US copyright mess is it's own.
It's not my job to educate you--if you're not willing to read about the issues there's not point having a discussion with you. The US copyright "mess" was brought up to the EU standard, and in fact remains less reaching than the EU extensions, as it was not retroactive to works that had already expired. See also the Berne convention on copyright.
So selling copied software is the same as child sex slavery? I'm missing something here.
That is abundantly obvious (that you are missing something)--else you wouldn 't be attempting to make the point that you are. The point is, crimes committed on US soil or with US citizens on US soil, or to property on US soil, etc is prosecutable by the US. And when I write "the US" I really mean any country. This DoD guy was commiting crimes against companies in the US, and, most importantly, some/many of the "transactions" were occurring on computers, and with people located in the US. Now, if he had never posted files on computers in the US, etc, things could be different--but he did, and it's not.
The point about the child sex example was to use a crime that very, VERY few people don't think of as wrong--in an attempt to view the problem not from a slashdotist fad point of view, but a logical legal one.
Actually your statements are not particularly factual. The nation that keeps changing their copyright law to protect profits from MM? Try reading some facts. US Copyright laws were synchronized with EU laws.
Since you don't seem to understand this case either I shall make an analogy..let's make up a country caled dbIIIland, where it is legal to sell child prostitutes. Now let's say dbiiiland offered said service to US citizens IN the US--remember now that all operations are based out of dbiiiland, yet transactions occur in the US. This is clearly illegal, and clearly akin to what happened here.
That's stupid--people were willing to go to duke before the ipod, what difference does it make? hell, I'd say a good minimum 1/10 -> 1/4 of the studnet population already HAS an ipod at duke.
the argument would go that you're paying for a quality education. Whether that's worth $160k is another question...I can tell you a substantial number of people i know from the 2004 graduating class will be making rather large salaries this upcoming year, and or doing graduate studies. it's a tradeoff.
though we're not talking undergrads--iirc, a duke law grad can expect to make an AVERAGE starting salary of abour 110k.
I could be wrong--I know I've been using Font Smoothing at least that long--it was originally only available as part of a plus pack that was pretty widely promulgated.
This is true, I do run XP with cleartype enabled (and have since win98 actually). I still prefer the Mac font look.
Absolutely I agree with--I was careful to avoid saying that fonts on nix/bsd/kde/gnome/whatever CAN'T look good--it just usually seems to take a good bit of work!
Interesting, as OSX by default doesn't anti-alias at sizes below 8.
I find web browsing in Safari on OSX to be so much more pleasing than doing so in windows, largely because of the appearance of fonts.
You are correct--Apple fonts really shine at large font sizes (say, above 12) but window fonts so often look overly skinny to me now.