These days?? What kind of foolish / alarmist and wrong statement is these.
One election was in legal question. The supreme court, falling all laws and legal procedure cleared up the matter. If you can point out what was illegal, or how the Supremem Court "picked" the President (if you recall, Bush was always in the ballot lead--nothing has changed), I'd be very interested.
Once again I am amazed by the number of cubicle workers and others who go on and on "Oh, he's SO stupid, oh blah blah blah"
Intellectual elitism at it's worst. If you're so smart and good, why aren't you president--wouldn't your vast and overwhelming intelligence be better for us all??
What do you mean "serious programming"...your parenthetical doesn't explain anything. Tools like Apache and Gimp? Tools like Apache and gimp compile and run on OS X!!
And I would also say there is a lot of support behind Darwin right now--I believe the sales of OS X speak for themselves.
And which part of QT3.0 or KDE wasn't open-source?
Scott
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It's not difficult to get the Java VM in XP. The first time you go to a page with java it pops up a windowsupdate message and downloads it. very, very easy.
Wasn't microsoft planning on releasing this for FreeBSD? IIRC, MS was planning to support at least.NET development on FreeBSD.
This is the MS attack on Linux--via its arguably weakest (at least in the commercial world) point--the GPL.
Scott
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Are programs like Wine and VMWAre really taking away from MS's desktop share?
Most of the people that would ever run these would be running *nix/*bsd already. In fact you need to one a copy of Windows for VMware, and it prolly helps for Wine.
And besides, as long as people are running windows apps, developers will continue to target windows. This is similar to the dilemna IBM faced with OS/2 Win32 emu stuff. It was so good (ANY win3.1 app could run in native OS/2) that very few native OS/2 apps were ever made.
Natively excluded? I'm not sure of the reasons of this, wasn't it due to a licensing problem with Sun? (could be totally wrong)
In any case, the first time you go to a webpage with java on it (which actually is pretty rate as I found out) XP pops up a message saying "Do you want to install the Java VM? Yes/No" click yes...it downloads...done. That's it. not a big deal.
It's somewhat ironic that you mention Windows's weakness is that it doesn't bundle ENOUGH software with it:P
On the otherhand, Win2K has almost everything you mentioned, with the exception of builtin winzip, and WinXP has it all.
Also, your statement that windows programs aren't forward-compatible is largely erroneous. Drivers maybe for the most part aren't forward-compatible, but the OS's for 99% of applications ARE backwards-compatible. I can run games written for windows95. I can even run Winword for windows 3.1. Can you run a linux binary compiled on a typical system from 7 years ago today?
It's a trade off. Intel has 2GHz P4's. Apple has 1GHz G4's. I don't think there's much question that MHz-for-MHz the G4 is a better processor (with some REALLY nice features like Altivec and power saving). But when Intel's P4 is over 1GHz faster, that ceases to matter quite so much.
Yes, these two members of the "ultra conservative christian right" such as (QUOTED FROM ARTICLE) "New York Democrat Chuck Schumer".
Freedoms are being attacked by those on boths sides of the aisle--Feinstein cosponsored the FBI wiretapping revamp. There's no reason for you to push your agenda when this is something that should be universally fought.
Scott
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Actually it would seem to be more like:
While looking inside a Window, he realized it wasn't locked, opened the window, found some confidential documents laying around, made photocopies of them to keep, showed other people, made a few "adjustments" to the original copies, and then informed the company that they left their window unlocked.
Well given that Word has 90% (or whatever..huge %!) market dominance, and that many of these people know VBA, I'd say it IS important. Most business don't exist in a vacuum where they don't deal with the outside world--in these cases it helps to be able to send and receive office docs that other people can read. So you bet compatibility is important.
Sorry but this post is ridiculous. If you've ever used MS Office progmatically, you'd know that MS has done a really, really good job. VBA works really well, and is very easy. They make just about everything in every application easily accessible to the programmer. REcordable macros work really well too. How exactly does Open Source help?
Because invariably, the more Free a society is, the more likely it is that injustices will not go unnoticed. Unjust laws--unpopular laws--will not stand forever where people's wills are.
If people don't like the DMCA it will fall. If the DMCA remains something that only slashdotters and other tiny tiny minority groups care about, it will stand. dunno if that's good or bad.
The crime occurred in the US, as software sold within the US...ergo...US crime
Second, made a tool specifically designed to circumvent copyright. The specific goal of a gun is not to kill people. The specific goal of a copy machine is not to break copyright. His product can ONLY be used to break copyright.
Unless of course, you could give some examples of adobe ebooks that exist free of any copyright and and totally free, that you could use Sklyarov's software on.
Here here! Well said. Too many people here get rapped up in what a) others say and they take for pure fact, and b) whatever they think will get them more karma.
Yes, except in this case it's for blatantly breaking copyright law.
Thnik about it this way. You buy a book. A hardcover. A novel we'll say. Should you be able to make a copy for your home, and one for your office, and then one for school...maybe one for the car while you're at it? and hey, if a friend wants a copy, why don't just give him one, i mean you have 8 already... I don't think that is right. Do you?
Given that programmers are about the only resource Russia can make any money off of now, is it any wonder that they don't want their programmers going to the US??
I mean geez, I should be able to profit off breaking copyright on other peoples work whenever I want. When someone like skylarov gets punished for selling the ability to illegally copy books, who's gonna be next?? The phone and cable hijackers?? The warez kiddies?? What a sad sad world we live in....
Do you not remember the case of the American student caught in Russia with marijuana? He was put in jail. He was there for a long time. These things go both ways.
Anyone and everyone DOES have a right to make a private commercial gain, you're correct, so long as they don't BREAK the law.
If you'll notice the severity of the Sklyarov case is because not only did Sklyarov illegally make software that disregards copy-protection, but he then profits from it. So he profits by breaking the law. This is not right.
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These days?? What kind of foolish / alarmist and wrong statement is these.
One election was in legal question. The supreme court, falling all laws and legal procedure cleared up the matter. If you can point out what was illegal, or how the Supremem Court "picked" the President (if you recall, Bush was always in the ballot lead--nothing has changed), I'd be very interested.
Scott
Once again I am amazed by the number of cubicle workers and others who go on and on "Oh, he's SO stupid, oh blah blah blah"
Intellectual elitism at it's worst. If you're so smart and good, why aren't you president--wouldn't your vast and overwhelming intelligence be better for us all??
Scott
NO! We certaintly don't need more private money entering government hands--they've got quite enough of your and my money already!
Scott
What do you mean "serious programming"...your parenthetical doesn't explain anything. Tools like Apache and Gimp? Tools like Apache and gimp compile and run on OS X!!
And I would also say there is a lot of support behind Darwin right now--I believe the sales of OS X speak for themselves.
Scott
And which part of QT3.0 or KDE wasn't open-source?
Scott
It's not difficult to get the Java VM in XP. The first time you go to a page with java it pops up a windowsupdate message and downloads it. very, very easy.
scott
Wasn't microsoft planning on releasing this for FreeBSD? IIRC, MS was planning to support at least .NET development on FreeBSD.
This is the MS attack on Linux--via its arguably weakest (at least in the commercial world) point--the GPL.
Scott
Are programs like Wine and VMWAre really taking away from MS's desktop share?
Most of the people that would ever run these would be running *nix/*bsd already. In fact you need to one a copy of Windows for VMware, and it prolly helps for Wine.
And besides, as long as people are running windows apps, developers will continue to target windows. This is similar to the dilemna IBM faced with OS/2 Win32 emu stuff. It was so good (ANY win3.1 app could run in native OS/2) that very few native OS/2 apps were ever made.
Scott
Natively excluded? I'm not sure of the reasons of this, wasn't it due to a licensing problem with Sun? (could be totally wrong)
In any case, the first time you go to a webpage with java on it (which actually is pretty rate as I found out) XP pops up a message saying "Do you want to install the Java VM? Yes/No" click yes...it downloads...done. That's it. not a big deal.
Scott
It's somewhat ironic that you mention Windows's weakness is that it doesn't bundle ENOUGH software with it :P
On the otherhand, Win2K has almost everything you mentioned, with the exception of builtin winzip, and WinXP has it all.
Also, your statement that windows programs aren't forward-compatible is largely erroneous. Drivers maybe for the most part aren't forward-compatible, but the OS's for 99% of applications ARE backwards-compatible. I can run games written for windows95. I can even run Winword for windows 3.1. Can you run a linux binary compiled on a typical system from 7 years ago today?
Scott
It's a trade off. Intel has 2GHz P4's. Apple has 1GHz G4's. I don't think there's much question that MHz-for-MHz the G4 is a better processor (with some REALLY nice features like Altivec and power saving). But when Intel's P4 is over 1GHz faster, that ceases to matter quite so much.
Scott
Yes, these two members of the "ultra conservative christian right" such as (QUOTED FROM ARTICLE) "New York Democrat Chuck Schumer".
Freedoms are being attacked by those on boths sides of the aisle--Feinstein cosponsored the FBI wiretapping revamp. There's no reason for you to push your agenda when this is something that should be universally fought.
Scott
Actually it would seem to be more like:
While looking inside a Window, he realized it wasn't locked, opened the window, found some confidential documents laying around, made photocopies of them to keep, showed other people, made a few "adjustments" to the original copies, and then informed the company that they left their window unlocked.
Scott
Well given that Word has 90% (or whatever..huge %!) market dominance, and that many of these people know VBA, I'd say it IS important. Most business don't exist in a vacuum where they don't deal with the outside world--in these cases it helps to be able to send and receive office docs that other people can read. So you bet compatibility is important.
Scott
Sorry but this post is ridiculous. If you've ever used MS Office progmatically, you'd know that MS has done a really, really good job. VBA works really well, and is very easy. They make just about everything in every application easily accessible to the programmer. REcordable macros work really well too. How exactly does Open Source help?
Scott
Unjust actions in a communist dictatorship.
Because invariably, the more Free a society is, the more likely it is that injustices will not go unnoticed. Unjust laws--unpopular laws--will not stand forever where people's wills are.
If people don't like the DMCA it will fall. If the DMCA remains something that only slashdotters and other tiny tiny minority groups care about, it will stand. dunno if that's good or bad.
Scott
Yes, which is why I said "USSR" and not Russia.
Scott
The crime occurred in the US, as software sold within the US...ergo...US crime
Second, made a tool specifically designed to circumvent copyright. The specific goal of a gun is not to kill people. The specific goal of a copy machine is not to break copyright. His product can ONLY be used to break copyright.
Unless of course, you could give some examples of adobe ebooks that exist free of any copyright and and totally free, that you could use Sklyarov's software on.
The difference is between unjust actions in a democratic society (ie, US) and a communist dictaroship (ie, USSR).
Scott
Here here! Well said. Too many people here get rapped up in what a) others say and they take for pure fact, and b) whatever they think will get them more karma.
thanks for bucking the trend.
Scott
Yes, except in this case it's for blatantly breaking copyright law.
Thnik about it this way. You buy a book. A hardcover. A novel we'll say. Should you be able to make a copy for your home, and one for your office, and then one for school...maybe one for the car while you're at it? and hey, if a friend wants a copy, why don't just give him one, i mean you have 8 already... I don't think that is right. Do you?
Scott
Given that programmers are about the only resource Russia can make any money off of now, is it any wonder that they don't want their programmers going to the US??
Scott
Yes I don't know what's gone wrong in America.
I mean geez, I should be able to profit off breaking copyright on other peoples work whenever I want. When someone like skylarov gets punished for selling the ability to illegally copy books, who's gonna be next?? The phone and cable hijackers?? The warez kiddies?? What a sad sad world we live in....
Scott
Do you not remember the case of the American student caught in Russia with marijuana? He was put in jail. He was there for a long time. These things go both ways.
Scott
Though you see, you're totally missing the point.
Anyone and everyone DOES have a right to make a private commercial gain, you're correct, so long as they don't BREAK the law.
If you'll notice the severity of the Sklyarov case is because not only did Sklyarov illegally make software that disregards copy-protection, but he then profits from it. So he profits by breaking the law. This is not right.
Scott