The question is, when do you stop blaming Lincoln for Reconstruction?
The answer is: you never blame him in the first place because he wasn't in office then. Obama has fucked up royally on many occasions, but the left wants to blame Bush for those mistakes. It just isn't logical.
Hear, hear. I'm sick to death of people blaming Bush for any and all problems in this country. The guy's been gone for 17 months now, when do we get to start blaming the new guy?
I've actually read comments somewhere that the BP spill is Bush's fault. Nevermind that construction on that well didn't start until Obama was in office, it's still the other guy's fault. Give me a break!
I think he was trying to say that speeding is malum prohibitum and not malum in se. It's still a crime, but it's only a crime because it's a crime, not because speeding is in-and-of-itself a bad thing.
Up here in Dallas, they seem to set speed limits based on driving revenue. Central Expressway, I-35(E/W), and 635 are all 60 MPH. Dallas North Tollway, 121, and PGBT are 70. The difference being you pay about $1.50 per 10 miles on the latter group. Gee, wonder why they upped the speed limit? Maybe to get more people to use them and get more money for the NTTA?
Doesn't stop everyone and their brother from doing 85 on Central, of course.
A school principle and a judge are different how in this scenario?
First off, have you never heard the term "contempt of court"? You can be charged with that even when you're not in the court room.
Second, I'm not wasting any more of my time discussing hypotheticals with someone who clearly has not thought through the consequences of his position. Good day, sir.
All of your arguments are strawmen. School teachers and principals are a particular class of authority figure in a specific circumstance. There is no corollary between them and any other authority figure. Your attempt to conflate this scenario with others is laughable.
But at least you're thinking of the children. Lord knows, someone has to!
Obvious strawman is obvious. We're not talking about the government, we're talking about teachers in a classroom. Everything I've said applies equally well to private school teachers as it does to public school teachers.
Are you suggesting that any respected authority should punish any deed that led to decrease in respect? If not, why for the case of teachers?
"Any" is a broad brush and a strawman. I'm choosing to ignore it.
There is a significant difference between the school situation and the work situation. At work, you work for your boss. At school, the teachers and administration work for the students.
Teachers need to be able to maintain order or else students can't learn. If the students have no respect for the teachers' authority, they can't maintain order. Therefore, anything a student does that causes other students to lose respect for their teachers must be punished. The alternative is to have a situation where classes are completely out of control and the students who want to learn, can't.
You're missing a critical point: other students at those schools may have (in fact almost certainly) viewed those "parodies". The result of which would be a lessening of respect for the teachers and principals involved, making it harder for them to apply any kind of discipline in school. So yes, the school district needs to discipline these kids, if only to remind the other kids that this behavior is not OK.
If you posted a "parody" like this of your boss, on your own time and using your own resources, you'd still be fired. And with cause. It's no different just because these kids are in school.
Except that posting these things about the principal is a direct attack on his authority as the principal. The kid that claimed hers was a pedophile should've been expelled, then been the subject of a police investigation into libel.
The courts have routinely held that it doesn't matter one bit where and how a student undermines the authority of teachers and principals, they can always be held to account for it.
If you prestocked your phone with several gigs of music, I think they'd be extremely impressed. Maybe not with Miley Cyrus but I'm sure Lady Gaga and Ke$ha would fit right in with 70's music.
The doctors should buy rubber stamps with the word "please" on them, then have medical students stamp every single order slip in inventory so that the word is on all of them. Problem solved.
If you think the banking sector is a free market then you either have no idea how the banking sectors works, have no idea what a free market is, or both.
In terms of investing? No, none at all. In the same vein as one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, one man's tool to gain a market advantage is another man's tool to prevent catastrophe.
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The question is, when do you stop blaming Lincoln for Reconstruction?
The answer is: you never blame him in the first place because he wasn't in office then. Obama has fucked up royally on many occasions, but the left wants to blame Bush for those mistakes. It just isn't logical.
Hear, hear. I'm sick to death of people blaming Bush for any and all problems in this country. The guy's been gone for 17 months now, when do we get to start blaming the new guy?
I've actually read comments somewhere that the BP spill is Bush's fault. Nevermind that construction on that well didn't start until Obama was in office, it's still the other guy's fault. Give me a break!
I need some coffee. I first your post as a "kiss in the balls" and immediately thought "Who would think that's as bad as a punch in the face?"
American, high-school dropout, 20 years experience - I'd laugh in someone's face if they offered me $23 an hour.
I think he was trying to say that speeding is malum prohibitum and not malum in se. It's still a crime, but it's only a crime because it's a crime, not because speeding is in-and-of-itself a bad thing.
Up here in Dallas, they seem to set speed limits based on driving revenue. Central Expressway, I-35(E/W), and 635 are all 60 MPH. Dallas North Tollway, 121, and PGBT are 70. The difference being you pay about $1.50 per 10 miles on the latter group. Gee, wonder why they upped the speed limit? Maybe to get more people to use them and get more money for the NTTA?
Doesn't stop everyone and their brother from doing 85 on Central, of course.
Sounds like you're saying this is all a bureaucratic dick-measuring contest and much ado about nothing. That about right?
Maybe, but probably not: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_pipeline_sabotage#Hoax.3F
Public schools have considerable authority over their charges, but it does not extend to what they do on their own time.
The Supreme Court has ruled differently time and again. Stop talking about things you clearly have no understanding of.
A school principle and a judge are different how in this scenario?
First off, have you never heard the term "contempt of court"? You can be charged with that even when you're not in the court room.
Second, I'm not wasting any more of my time discussing hypotheticals with someone who clearly has not thought through the consequences of his position. Good day, sir.
All of your arguments are strawmen. School teachers and principals are a particular class of authority figure in a specific circumstance. There is no corollary between them and any other authority figure. Your attempt to conflate this scenario with others is laughable.
But at least you're thinking of the children. Lord knows, someone has to!
Obvious strawman is obvious. We're not talking about the government, we're talking about teachers in a classroom. Everything I've said applies equally well to private school teachers as it does to public school teachers.
That doesn't grant the school blanket authority over the students' lives however.
The Supreme Court disagrees with you.
Are you suggesting that any respected authority should punish any deed that led to decrease in respect? If not, why for the case of teachers?
"Any" is a broad brush and a strawman. I'm choosing to ignore it.
There is a significant difference between the school situation and the work situation. At work, you work for your boss. At school, the teachers and administration work for the students.
Teachers need to be able to maintain order or else students can't learn. If the students have no respect for the teachers' authority, they can't maintain order. Therefore, anything a student does that causes other students to lose respect for their teachers must be punished. The alternative is to have a situation where classes are completely out of control and the students who want to learn, can't.
You're missing a critical point: other students at those schools may have (in fact almost certainly) viewed those "parodies". The result of which would be a lessening of respect for the teachers and principals involved, making it harder for them to apply any kind of discipline in school. So yes, the school district needs to discipline these kids, if only to remind the other kids that this behavior is not OK.
If you posted a "parody" like this of your boss, on your own time and using your own resources, you'd still be fired. And with cause. It's no different just because these kids are in school.
Except that posting these things about the principal is a direct attack on his authority as the principal. The kid that claimed hers was a pedophile should've been expelled, then been the subject of a police investigation into libel.
The courts have routinely held that it doesn't matter one bit where and how a student undermines the authority of teachers and principals, they can always be held to account for it.
If you prestocked your phone with several gigs of music, I think they'd be extremely impressed. Maybe not with Miley Cyrus but I'm sure Lady Gaga and Ke$ha would fit right in with 70's music.
I was born in 1971. Which means if I were a computer I would be obsolete and replaced by a faster, younger model with prettier looks.
Come to think of it, maybe I am a computer....
Um, I dunno, maybe both?
You have no expectation of privacy when out in public. Really, it's not hard to comprehend.
Classic false dichotomy.
The doctors should buy rubber stamps with the word "please" on them, then have medical students stamp every single order slip in inventory so that the word is on all of them. Problem solved.
If you think the banking sector is a free market then you either have no idea how the banking sectors works, have no idea what a free market is, or both.
In terms of investing? No, none at all. In the same vein as one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, one man's tool to gain a market advantage is another man's tool to prevent catastrophe.
If that isn't real security, I don't know what is.
Never has a truer statement been uttered.