The latest I've seen is that it looks about 20% solar, 80% human activity.
Is this data supported by the start of the industrial revolution in the early 1900's and the onset of the comming Ice age and global cooling of the 1970'S. Inspite of the large industrialization of the world, 2 world wars and huge steel manufacturing buring lots of coal, we had a global cooling at a rate that triggered dire predictions of the higher latitudes being covered in the new ice age.
While that software may very well run on both OSes, Windows comes with a license fee for the OS itself which is not insignificant. Four machines running the most basic model of a supported Windows version is between $100 and $200 per license meaning you're paying between $400 and $800 just for the OS.
I guess the point I failed to make is Ubuntu works fine on my Pentium III 1 GHZ machine. Windows 98 and MS Office 97 are obsolete. Windows 98 has next to zero online protection, is abandoned by both MS and the major AV vendors and MS office won't properly open many of the documents sent to me. Instead of junking the working hardware because of software upgrade costs and the need for some hardware upgrades to run the software upgrades, Ubuntu on it is affordable and quite usable as an office PC. As an added bonus I can install it on several PC's for the same low cost of a little time investment unlike any per seat software upgrade.
Care to do a TCO of 3 Ubuntu installs for our family? Here are the stats. 1 Pentium III desktop at 1 GHZ came with Windows 98 SE and bundled MS office 97 and Adptec Easy CD Creator. It now runs Ubuntu with Open Office, Gimp, Evolution, and CD burning is built-in. No hardware changes. 2 White box Pentium 4 at 3.4 Ghz. Was running Windows 98 SE becasue I had it lying around when I built it. It also had a legal copy (retail purchased) copy of MS office 97 for the kids homework. It is now configured like the above except it has a flash card reader in a floppy bay and has a flatbed scanner. Added Media Codecs, and Flash 9. It's my primary photo workstation and internet machine. 3 My older IBM Laptop a Thinkpad T21. Was running Windows 2000 and MS Office 2000. I bought it used so the OS and MS office would be declaired pirated if audited. The laptop came with no support disks of any kind. It is now runnin Ubuntu and all the usual suspects.
All the above machines had up to date AV software until Windows 98 lost support. My kids visiting popular social networking sites quickly trashed the white box homework machine twice in 6 months. This was during a financual crunch so new hardware or simply full software upgrades was out of the question.
Anyone care to do the math for this TCO study? Two of the 3 machines would have failed a BSA audit for sure due to the lack of reciepts. (you do know where that reciept for Office 97 is don't you?) One would have failed for the lack of install media and CD keys. Now all would pass with no issues except maybe an RIAA audit and SCO claims. SCO will be a non-issue very soon.
I am fighting Piracy. I'm also fighting overpriced software.
Enough with the humans don't effect global warming because Mars is warming too. It's been debunked so many times, it silly.
Refrences please. We are talking science. I can prove beyond a shadow of doubt I can cause a wind in any direction I want by setting up a small fan. How much influence does it have on the aproaching storm? CO2 does cause a warming. How much of it is causing the flood? Pissing in a lake does raise the lake water level, but I'm not going to have everyone downstream run for the hills because I have started a flood. How much global warming is from solar cycles and how much is from CO2? I may choose to not piss in a lake for reasons other than causing a flood, but don't shake the chance of a flood and rising lakewater of a couple inches on my pissing in the lake. I would like to see real data on the greenhouse model verses a solar model where warmer oceans hold less CO2 which is now in the atmosphere. In short, quite yelling fire and find the data.
From the data I have so far, global warming is the stampeding of the population with a match in a theatre and yelling fire! It is true the match will warm up the theatre, but it is much less heating than the couple making out in the back row.
Again, how much is solar cycle and how much is greenhouse? Can removing the CO2 fix the problem any more than spilling a coke in the theatre to cool the room down? Is is worth spilling the coke? Will it have a measurable effect?
Wow, influenced by the propoganda instead of the facts..
Care to explan the Mars Polar Ice Caps? It's not from a propaganda source I think. Too many people just consider the source as either liberal or conservative and glaze over the numbers and indicators. Have you personaly looked at the Tempratur and CO2 level charts and numbers yourself to try to find out for your self which happens first? Is there a corolation between a spike in CO2 and temprature. If there is, which happened first? Is there a corolation between the Earth and Mars polar Ice Caps? What is common between them. Leave politics out and look at the facts from both sides. What does the data show? How about some basic science?
Or maybe not, since Linux really isn't competition on the desktop yet.
Or maybe not yet, but very soon. Ubuntu is quickly gaining big traction on the desktop. 4 things are driving it.
1 Live CD's. Answers the question ahead of time "Will it run on my hardware?" 2 Demoware and Malware on PC's. Enough said. Apps with Ubuntu are not trials. 3 High cost of the upgrade cycle. Why toss the old PC? It's cheaper to replace than to upgrade the OS, Anti-virus, Office suite, CD/DVD burning, and Photo Programs. In Ubuntu, they are included for free except the Anti-virus which usualy isn't needed. 4 Word of mouth. At work I give away copies. I have run into other users to share with things like how to install Flash 9, What is the best wireless manager, What are the best codecs to use, What to set up in WINE, etc.
People are finding out it is easy to use. Not just geeks use it. It's more stable than Windows, safer online, and the biggie, it's a free alternative to junking a working computer with obsolete software.
So you're saying that in certain cases the university should choose to be in contempt of court?
No! I'm suggesting an over reaching subpoena should be contested. For example, an RIAA subpoena for your ISP for the infringer using IP x.x.x.x at 2:50 UCT on Jan 24 2007 is proper. Asking your ISP for all subscriber logs, port usage including times, and to whowm they connected to is over reaching and a fishing trip for evedince of activities they have no knowledge about.
Do you think Comcast will give all subscriber records to the RIAA to troll through for everyone who connected to a Torrent Tracker with just a simple subpoena? The subpoena has to have evidence to support it and it can't be over reaching the evidence.
There is a reason the RIAA does not have all the server logs from Comcast, Qwest, and every University. They have asked in the past. Fishing trips into ISP server logs and subscriber databases isn't allowed.
That doesn't keep the RIAA from trying to get a fishing license anytime possible in an investigation.
I'm just suggesting we use a petroleum tax to level the field a little.
No need for that. Peak Oil will take care of the field on it's own thank you. Peak Oil will simply give you a longer transition time adjust instead of the swift kick in the pants to disrupt your markets.
Up north, sugarbeets (also superior to corn for ethanol) used to hold sway, but increasingly farmers have been lured to the free money
Since your from Down here in Texas, I can see you may be uninformed in what we grow up here. This is Apple, Grape, and Wheat country. Other crops include Mint, Beets, Hops, Potatoes, Cherrys, Flowers, Grass seeds, and Cranberries. Potato country is in Eastern Washington, Oregon and in Idaho along with Wheat.
Oregon and Washington both grow lots of grapes for wine. We already are producing ethanol from something other than corn, but we don't put it in the tank. We put it in a bottle.;-)
but increasingly farmers have been lured to the free money News to me.. any refrences? Sugar Beet country is turning into Wine Country.
Yes coal can be burned more cleanly and the CO2 sequestered
Remember that in the process of storing away a unit of carbon an element, you also store away two units of oxygen another element. Since we are a carbon based life form dependant on oxygen, is oxidizing our carbon by combining it with oxygen and storing it away a good idea simply because we think a little CO2 leads to run away global warming? In the process of capturing and sequestering the CO2 you use even more of the carbon and oxygen.
Face the facts.. A bicycle on the beach leaves 2 tire tracks that tend to wander together just like temprature and CO2 levels track on earth. Careful analysis of both can show which track leads the other. The fact they track together is not proof the behind one leads the front one. CO2 and Temprature track closely like bycicle tire prints on the beach. Often ignored is Temprature leads CO2 levels, not follow it. We are trying to steer temprature by pushing the effect instead of the cause. For the cause look to the sky. Now track the histroy of the Mars Polar Ice cap. Can't blame their global warming on burning fossil fuels on Mars.
Maybe we can finaly stop paying farm subsidies. Quit growing tabacco and grow corn as a cash crop. Maybe a farmer can make a living again. The beef industry hates it of course because of higher costs. Expect prices to rise at the local hamburger joint due to rising costs.
The vast bulk of commercial software (*including commercial OSS) you will buy is licensed for use on one computer - are you suggesting all those vendors are monopolies ?
Not at all. I am suggesting that in my environment like many SOHO setups with a family, per seat licenses will fail next to a site license.
It's why I use Gimp instead of Photoshop Elements. It's why I use Evolution instead of Outlook. It's why I installed Open Office on 3 machines instead of upgrading from 2 copies of MS Office 97 and one copy of Office 2000. The several hundred dollar per seat license does not work in a typical family environment. The software costs is why many families have to share one PC and have to negotiate for PC time. Older hardware is dirt cheap. Using Pentium III and faster machines for Internet, Graphics and Homework is fine when the high cost software is eliminated.
The above replacement software runs fine on Ubuntu and is included standard. Added to the savings is no need to upgrade from unsupported versions of Windows. My 1 GHZ Pentium III machine is not the sitting duck it was while running Windows 98 SE. Most AV suppliers have even abandoned support for it.
Some software I have purchased has come with a home site license.
The copyright owner can set those license terms, and most do.
And the consumer has all the purchasing power and can choose alternatives. If you don't think this has any influence, watch MS squirm while the Open Document Format is adopted and ISO certified. They have 3 choices; 1 Business as usual; embrace extend extinguish.. Which they are trying to do with their own competing patented format. 2 Ignore and hope their format is more popular and the other just becomes unimportant. 3 Add the standardised format to their existing product line to sell into the markets demanding the format.
1 is happening. If it fails, they will have to adopt or die if 2 fails. They will take 3 only when they have been badly dragged into it from lost market share and client demands.
Remember, the consumer always has a voice in the marketplace. The copyright owner can set the terms of the license. In doing so, they risk marketshare loss. MS is seeing that first hand with Open Office on the MS platform and on the Linux platform. The demand for the Open Document Format is not going to go away anytime soon. If their platform does not support it soon, they will lose share to others that do. Users of Open Office in a SOHO environment will demand site licenses instead of per seat licenses. MS will lose again while they stick with WGA to maintain their per seat model and eliminate casual piracy.
The last time I checked (XP), the Office license let you install it on two systems, presumably a laptop and desktop.
How many SOHO users buy yet another copy of XP, the office version. Most SOHO simply use the XP Home OEM version that came on their Dell. There is no option or means to put a copy of it on your older laptop as an upgrade. If it's in the EULA, I must have missed something. The install media is absent for this function.
I think instead of the blanket statement that they will submit to a subpoena, they should have narrowed it to a subpoena for an alledged violator. Anything less may open the university to full access to student and campus network server logs in a driftnet subpoena. That should be fought tooth and nail.
so when you get done with that laptop hardware wise you can pop that Windows CD in there and reinstall again on the desktop.
If you truly believe that, I'll give you my IBM recovery disk to use on the Dell. Most MS OS software is not sold retail. It is OEM with severe restrictions on what hardware it will run on.
They are broad with the term. If I retire my Dell PC and scrap it and put the XP OS on a white box replacement, I have Pirated XP.
If I buy a Copy of MS Office for my personal use and put in on my laptop and desktop, I am a Pirate.
A personal use site license is lacking in their EULA. I don't have either of those problems with any of my Linux installations.
I can pick up a CD, Play it in my CD player, Rip it and play it on my PC, and put it on my MP3 player for personal use. MS made sure their products won't do that. Office won't run live on the CD. It fails WGA if installed on your PC and laptop. It's broken. Linux is not broken out of the box. The applications work if installed on your desktop and a laptop.
I work at a university using Linux for a distibuted telescope control system.
I love Kstars. The built in support for most telescope mounts is fantastic. Tracking everything from stars to planets to satelites is great. I haven't seen anything like it for the Windows platform for free.
Where a lot of this falls down is the reliance of already-proven sketchy evidence (Get The Facts, TCO studies, etc...), and some overly simplistic anecdotal evidence ("Customers are already switching from Apache/Linux to IIS6/Windows" ; "Customers are finding that development with ASP.NET is quicker and easier" ;...).
I looked at all the personas and found every one of them fell in the range of 25-28 servers with the exception of the Unix one at 31 servers. Looks like a limited market segment survey to me. The segmemt missing is the SOHO or Home Office where computing is dependant on applications such as Quicken and an Office product and web browser. TCO is a big deciding factor. Instead of upgrading from MS office 97 and such, we built a white box computer and put Ubuntu on it. As a bonus, for our graphics arts we use the Gimp instead of Photoshop. We don't need another copy of AV software. The software savings has paid for the hardware. To share files, we picked up a NAS using Linux. It uses an encrypted Reiser filesystem and we have put all our printers on stand alone prinservers. The NAS and Printservers are all Linux. Other than some drastic price changes, there is little MS can do to get us to be an all MS office. We can't justify the cost. One copy of MS office is expensive. 4 copies (main office, kids PC, & 2 laptops is a show stopper. Linux does the job with either ABI Word or Open Office and doesn't break the budget. It also works with newer MS office files sent to us. Office 97 doesn't display them properly if at all.
When the adoption rate reaches critical mass where I can pick up a copy of Turbo Tax for Linux and Quicken will be the day MS stock has a bad day. There isn't many markets with more price concious buyers than the SOHO market.
"Symantec says that China, Russia, and the other developing countries usually blamed for the increasing amount of malware are not the biggest culprits.
I think the lack of paid up subscriptions for AV software in Russia may also show a lot being proxied there in bots. This alone may cause the assumption much of your SPAM is from some.ru domain. In the US, there are lots of bots on broadband, but there is more patched systems running AV software. An added incentive for US operators to use Russian bots is making tracing for prosecution much more difficult.
Bah! You've been brainwashed into believing Microsoft's bullshit! If you have a copy, then you have a copy -- and neither Microsoft nor anybody else can tell you what computer you're "allowed" to install your property on!
I think it is better to support their anti-piracy campaign and follow the EULA. If they would rather I run Ubuntu than a copy of Windows, I'm fine with it. Maybe if everyone thought this way, they would change their license terms to a user friendly one where you can transfer the OS to other hardware. Maybe I've been brainwashed, but the license agreement is the license agreement. My perfectly legal option is if I don't agree, is to simply go away and use something else, which I have done. This may have not been the intent of the agreement as the Dell's and Gateways of the world would prefer I simply buy new hardware. I doubt they expected this consequence of the license agreement. It is the license agreement that is a big influence on my decision to not migrate Windows 2000 from the Thinkpad to the Dell laptop. Now if I can find a full Windows 2000 Professional CD in Goodwill, I'd be all set. It's how I got my $5 copy of Windows 98 SE many years ago. I have a reciept, the case, the CD Key, and the hologram CD. I should put it up for sale since I am no longer running it on any system.
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Let another DRM flamewar begin!
I'm game.. Here is the first shot.
DRM is incompatibility by design. It lowers value, not increase it.
Example, Linux users can't even use the Adobe Documents in the article. Value $0. Added value due to DRM.. Negative.
In internal documents, SCO developers acknowledged that "
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Wow, why was this document chopped to bits? Anybody know?
How big would the document have been without all the redacted sections.
Here is a snip for example;
"When all is said and done, SCO's claims of infringement relating to the Linux kernel
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Sometimes I think I would have liked to have read the unabriged original to see what was left out.
You lost me at "explan."
Sorry. Touch typist and defective keyboard. I need to go back to the old clacky IBM keyboard.
When it clicks, I just expect the letter to be there. It doesn't always happen on a cheap Dell keyboard.
The latest I've seen is that it looks about 20% solar, 80% human activity.
Is this data supported by the start of the industrial revolution in the early 1900's and the onset of the comming Ice age and global cooling of the 1970'S. Inspite of the large industrialization of the world, 2 world wars and huge steel manufacturing buring lots of coal, we had a global cooling at a rate that triggered dire predictions of the higher latitudes being covered in the new ice age.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
That was about 80 years after the start of the biggest industrial revolution ever seen.
While that software may very well run on both OSes, Windows comes with a license fee for the OS itself which is not insignificant. Four machines running the most basic model of a supported Windows version is between $100 and $200 per license meaning you're paying between $400 and $800 just for the OS.
I guess the point I failed to make is Ubuntu works fine on my Pentium III 1 GHZ machine. Windows 98 and MS Office 97 are obsolete. Windows 98 has next to zero online protection, is abandoned by both MS and the major AV vendors and MS office won't properly open many of the documents sent to me. Instead of junking the working hardware because of software upgrade costs and the need for some hardware upgrades to run the software upgrades, Ubuntu on it is affordable and quite usable as an office PC. As an added bonus I can install it on several PC's for the same low cost of a little time investment unlike any per seat software upgrade.
Care to do a TCO of 3 Ubuntu installs for our family?
Here are the stats.
1 Pentium III desktop at 1 GHZ came with Windows 98 SE and bundled MS office 97 and Adptec Easy CD Creator.
It now runs Ubuntu with Open Office, Gimp, Evolution, and CD burning is built-in. No hardware changes.
2 White box Pentium 4 at 3.4 Ghz. Was running Windows 98 SE becasue I had it lying around when I built it. It also had a legal copy (retail purchased) copy of MS office 97 for the kids homework.
It is now configured like the above except it has a flash card reader in a floppy bay and has a flatbed scanner. Added Media Codecs, and Flash 9. It's my primary photo workstation and internet machine.
3 My older IBM Laptop a Thinkpad T21. Was running Windows 2000 and MS Office 2000. I bought it used so the OS and MS office would be declaired pirated if audited. The laptop came with no support disks of any kind.
It is now runnin Ubuntu and all the usual suspects.
All the above machines had up to date AV software until Windows 98 lost support. My kids visiting popular social networking sites quickly trashed the white box homework machine twice in 6 months. This was during a financual crunch so new hardware or simply full software upgrades was out of the question.
Anyone care to do the math for this TCO study?
Two of the 3 machines would have failed a BSA audit for sure due to the lack of reciepts. (you do know where that reciept for Office 97 is don't you?) One would have failed for the lack of install media and CD keys. Now all would pass with no issues except maybe an RIAA audit and SCO claims. SCO will be a non-issue very soon.
I am fighting Piracy. I'm also fighting overpriced software.
Enough with the humans don't effect global warming because Mars is warming too. It's been debunked so many times, it silly.
Refrences please. We are talking science. I can prove beyond a shadow of doubt I can cause a wind in any direction I want by setting up a small fan. How much influence does it have on the aproaching storm? CO2 does cause a warming. How much of it is causing the flood? Pissing in a lake does raise the lake water level, but I'm not going to have everyone downstream run for the hills because I have started a flood. How much global warming is from solar cycles and how much is from CO2? I may choose to not piss in a lake for reasons other than causing a flood, but don't shake the chance of a flood and rising lakewater of a couple inches on my pissing in the lake. I would like to see real data on the greenhouse model verses a solar model where warmer oceans hold less CO2 which is now in the atmosphere. In short, quite yelling fire and find the data.
From the data I have so far, global warming is the stampeding of the population with a match in a theatre and yelling fire!
It is true the match will warm up the theatre, but it is much less heating than the couple making out in the back row.
Again, how much is solar cycle and how much is greenhouse? Can removing the CO2 fix the problem any more than spilling a coke in the theatre to cool the room down?
Is is worth spilling the coke? Will it have a measurable effect?
Wow, influenced by the propoganda instead of the facts..
Care to explan the Mars Polar Ice Caps? It's not from a propaganda source I think.
Too many people just consider the source as either liberal or conservative and glaze over the numbers and indicators. Have you personaly looked at the Tempratur and CO2 level charts and numbers yourself to try to find out for your self which happens first? Is there a corolation between a spike in CO2 and temprature. If there is, which happened first? Is there a corolation between the Earth and Mars polar Ice Caps? What is common between them. Leave politics out and look at the facts from both sides. What does the data show? How about some basic science?
Or maybe not, since Linux really isn't competition on the desktop yet.
Or maybe not yet, but very soon. Ubuntu is quickly gaining big traction on the desktop. 4 things are driving it.
1 Live CD's. Answers the question ahead of time "Will it run on my hardware?"
2 Demoware and Malware on PC's. Enough said. Apps with Ubuntu are not trials.
3 High cost of the upgrade cycle. Why toss the old PC? It's cheaper to replace than to upgrade the OS, Anti-virus, Office suite, CD/DVD burning, and Photo Programs. In Ubuntu, they are included for free except the Anti-virus which usualy isn't needed.
4 Word of mouth. At work I give away copies. I have run into other users to share with things like how to install Flash 9, What is the best wireless manager, What are the best codecs to use, What to set up in WINE, etc.
People are finding out it is easy to use. Not just geeks use it. It's more stable than Windows, safer online, and the biggie, it's a free alternative to junking a working computer with obsolete software.
So you're saying that in certain cases the university should choose to be in contempt of court?
No! I'm suggesting an over reaching subpoena should be contested. For example, an RIAA subpoena for your ISP for the infringer using IP x.x.x.x at 2:50 UCT on Jan 24 2007 is proper. Asking your ISP for all subscriber logs, port usage including times, and to whowm they connected to is over reaching and a fishing trip for evedince of activities they have no knowledge about.
Do you think Comcast will give all subscriber records to the RIAA to troll through for everyone who connected to a Torrent Tracker with just a simple subpoena? The subpoena has to have evidence to support it and it can't be over reaching the evidence.
There is a reason the RIAA does not have all the server logs from Comcast, Qwest, and every University. They have asked in the past. Fishing trips into ISP server logs and subscriber databases isn't allowed.
That doesn't keep the RIAA from trying to get a fishing license anytime possible in an investigation.
I'm just suggesting we use a petroleum tax to level the field a little.
No need for that. Peak Oil will take care of the field on it's own thank you. Peak Oil will simply give you a longer transition time adjust instead of the swift kick in the pants to disrupt your markets.
Up north, sugarbeets (also superior to corn for ethanol) used to hold sway, but increasingly farmers have been lured to the free money
;-)
Since your from Down here in Texas, I can see you may be uninformed in what we grow up here. This is Apple, Grape, and Wheat country. Other crops include Mint, Beets, Hops, Potatoes, Cherrys, Flowers, Grass seeds, and Cranberries. Potato country is in Eastern Washington, Oregon and in Idaho along with Wheat.
Oregon and Washington both grow lots of grapes for wine. We already are producing ethanol from something other than corn, but we don't put it in the tank. We put it in a bottle.
but increasingly farmers have been lured to the free money
News to me.. any refrences? Sugar Beet country is turning into Wine Country.
Yes coal can be burned more cleanly and the CO2 sequestered
Remember that in the process of storing away a unit of carbon an element, you also store away two units of oxygen another element. Since we are a carbon based life form dependant on oxygen, is oxidizing our carbon by combining it with oxygen and storing it away a good idea simply because we think a little CO2 leads to run away global warming? In the process of capturing and sequestering the CO2 you use even more of the carbon and oxygen.
Face the facts..
A bicycle on the beach leaves 2 tire tracks that tend to wander together just like temprature and CO2 levels track on earth. Careful analysis of both can show which track leads the other. The fact they track together is not proof the behind one leads the front one. CO2 and Temprature track closely like bycicle tire prints on the beach. Often ignored is Temprature leads CO2 levels, not follow it. We are trying to steer temprature by pushing the effect instead of the cause. For the cause look to the sky. Now track the histroy of the Mars Polar Ice cap. Can't blame their global warming on burning fossil fuels on Mars.
I'm sorry to break the news, but the Inconvienent Truth missed a few facts.
The Great Global Warming Swindle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU
Mars Polar Ice Caps http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1660
Do your research instead of follwing the latest pollitical stance on the subject.
I do presume the truth is inconvienent for Al Gore.
I don't believe burying our Oxygen is a good idea.
and the CO2 sequestered
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Q; Please tell me more. Where does it go?
A; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_capture_and_s
Start growing corn then.
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Maybe we can finaly stop paying farm subsidies. Quit growing tabacco and grow corn as a cash crop. Maybe a farmer can make a living again. The beef industry hates it of course because of higher costs. Expect prices to rise at the local hamburger joint due to rising costs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidi
The vast bulk of commercial software (*including commercial OSS) you will buy is licensed for use on one computer - are you suggesting all those vendors are monopolies ?
Not at all. I am suggesting that in my environment like many SOHO setups with a family, per seat licenses will fail next to a site license.
It's why I use Gimp instead of Photoshop Elements. It's why I use Evolution instead of Outlook. It's why I installed Open Office on 3 machines instead of upgrading from 2 copies of MS Office 97 and one copy of Office 2000. The several hundred dollar per seat license does not work in a typical family environment. The software costs is why many families have to share one PC and have to negotiate for PC time. Older hardware is dirt cheap. Using Pentium III and faster machines for Internet, Graphics and Homework is fine when the high cost software is eliminated.
The above replacement software runs fine on Ubuntu and is included standard. Added to the savings is no need to upgrade from unsupported versions of Windows. My 1 GHZ Pentium III machine is not the sitting duck it was while running Windows 98 SE. Most AV suppliers have even abandoned support for it.
Some software I have purchased has come with a home site license.
The copyright owner can set those license terms, and most do.
And the consumer has all the purchasing power and can choose alternatives. If you don't think this has any influence, watch MS squirm while the Open Document Format is adopted and ISO certified. They have 3 choices;
1 Business as usual; embrace extend extinguish.. Which they are trying to do with their own competing patented format.
2 Ignore and hope their format is more popular and the other just becomes unimportant.
3 Add the standardised format to their existing product line to sell into the markets demanding the format.
1 is happening. If it fails, they will have to adopt or die if 2 fails. They will take 3 only when they have been badly dragged into it from lost market share and client demands.
Remember, the consumer always has a voice in the marketplace. The copyright owner can set the terms of the license. In doing so, they risk marketshare loss.
MS is seeing that first hand with Open Office on the MS platform and on the Linux platform. The demand for the Open Document Format is not going to go away anytime soon.
If their platform does not support it soon, they will lose share to others that do. Users of Open Office in a SOHO environment will demand site licenses instead of per seat licenses. MS will lose again while they stick with WGA to maintain their per seat model and eliminate casual piracy.
The last time I checked (XP), the Office license let you install it on two systems, presumably a laptop and desktop.
How many SOHO users buy yet another copy of XP, the office version. Most SOHO simply use the XP Home OEM version that came on their Dell. There is no option or means to put a copy of it on your older laptop as an upgrade. If it's in the EULA, I must have missed something. The install media is absent for this function.
I think instead of the blanket statement that they will submit to a subpoena, they should have narrowed it to a subpoena for an alledged violator. Anything less may open the university to full access to student and campus network server logs in a driftnet subpoena. That should be fought tooth and nail.
so when you get done with that laptop hardware wise you can pop that Windows CD in there and reinstall again on the desktop.
If you truly believe that, I'll give you my IBM recovery disk to use on the Dell. Most MS OS software is not sold retail. It is OEM with severe restrictions on what hardware it will run on.
You bought a product for use with 1 liscense at a time.
Absolutely correct. A monopoly can set those license terms. There is no negotiation, no user specifications to be met by the vendor.
Now there is an alternative. I can have a site license for my software. It's just not from Microsoft.
People who resent being called pirates
They are broad with the term. If I retire my Dell PC and scrap it and put the XP OS on a white box replacement, I have Pirated XP.
If I buy a Copy of MS Office for my personal use and put in on my laptop and desktop, I am a Pirate.
A personal use site license is lacking in their EULA. I don't have either of those problems with any of my Linux installations.
I can pick up a CD, Play it in my CD player, Rip it and play it on my PC, and put it on my MP3 player for personal use. MS made sure their products won't do that. Office won't run live on the CD. It fails WGA if installed on your PC and laptop. It's broken. Linux is not broken out of the box. The applications work if installed on your desktop and a laptop.
I work at a university using Linux for a distibuted telescope control system.
I love Kstars. The built in support for most telescope mounts is fantastic. Tracking everything from stars to planets to satelites is great. I haven't seen anything like it for the Windows platform for free.
Where a lot of this falls down is the reliance of already-proven sketchy evidence (Get The Facts, TCO studies, etc...), and some overly simplistic anecdotal evidence ("Customers are already switching from Apache/Linux to IIS6/Windows" ; "Customers are finding that development with ASP.NET is quicker and easier" ; ...).
I looked at all the personas and found every one of them fell in the range of 25-28 servers with the exception of the Unix one at 31 servers. Looks like a limited market segment survey to me. The segmemt missing is the SOHO or Home Office where computing is dependant on applications such as Quicken and an Office product and web browser. TCO is a big deciding factor. Instead of upgrading from MS office 97 and such, we built a white box computer and put Ubuntu on it. As a bonus, for our graphics arts we use the Gimp instead of Photoshop. We don't need another copy of AV software. The software savings has paid for the hardware. To share files, we picked up a NAS using Linux. It uses an encrypted Reiser filesystem and we have put all our printers on stand alone prinservers. The NAS and Printservers are all Linux. Other than some drastic price changes, there is little MS can do to get us to be an all MS office. We can't justify the cost. One copy of MS office is expensive. 4 copies (main office, kids PC, & 2 laptops is a show stopper. Linux does the job with either ABI Word or Open Office and doesn't break the budget. It also works with newer MS office files sent to us. Office 97 doesn't display them properly if at all.
When the adoption rate reaches critical mass where I can pick up a copy of Turbo Tax for Linux and Quicken will be the day MS stock has a bad day. There isn't many markets with more price concious buyers than the SOHO market.
"Symantec says that China, Russia, and the other developing countries usually blamed for the increasing amount of malware are not the biggest culprits.
.ru domain. In the US, there are lots of bots on broadband, but there is more patched systems running AV software. An added incentive for US operators to use Russian bots is making tracing for prosecution much more difficult.
I think the lack of paid up subscriptions for AV software in Russia may also show a lot being proxied there in bots. This alone may cause the assumption much of your SPAM is from some
Bah! You've been brainwashed into believing Microsoft's bullshit! If you have a copy, then you have a copy -- and neither Microsoft nor anybody else can tell you what computer you're "allowed" to install your property on!
I think it is better to support their anti-piracy campaign and follow the EULA. If they would rather I run Ubuntu than a copy of Windows, I'm fine with it. Maybe if everyone thought this way, they would change their license terms to a user friendly one where you can transfer the OS to other hardware. Maybe I've been brainwashed, but the license agreement is the license agreement. My perfectly legal option is if I don't agree, is to simply go away and use something else, which I have done. This may have not been the intent of the agreement as the Dell's and Gateways of the world would prefer I simply buy new hardware. I doubt they expected this consequence of the license agreement. It is the license agreement that is a big influence on my decision to not migrate Windows 2000 from the Thinkpad to the Dell laptop. Now if I can find a full Windows 2000 Professional CD in Goodwill, I'd be all set. It's how I got my $5 copy of Windows 98 SE many years ago.
I have a reciept, the case, the CD Key, and the hologram CD. I should put it up for sale since I am no longer running it on any system.