Android already have ~80% of the market, this move seems to destroy one of the only competitors left... empirically, that kind of monopoly has historically never been a good thing in the software industry.
Being able to grab the source and play with it, including doing whatever you wish without license fees kind of takes the sting out.
There are still alternatives to Google's service so it's not evil for them to say this
Incorrect. In antitrust law the question is whether a company is able to exercise "market power", which does not depend on the mere existence of alternatives, but the relative market power with respect to the alternatives.
so really google should start making shittier products so there is a more equal playing field to choose from, is that what you're suggesting?
Please do not put words in my mouth. I suggested that Google has crossed the line to the evil side by its action in this matter, which has moral and ethical implications. I noted that the GP meant to draw attention to those. I further noted that there are also legal implications. The sticky legal issue is abuse of market power, not market power per se, provided of course that said market power is amassed through legal means.
So now evil is "If you do not like our terms then we will stop doing business with you."?
It depends on who's saying this. If you have a lot of other options you can go somewhere else. If the company saying this controls the vast majority of the market and is effectively blacklisting you, that certainly isn't good.
Correct so far.
There are still alternatives to Google's service so it's not evil for them to say this
Incorrect. In antitrust law the question is whether a company is able to exercise "market power", which does not depend on the mere existence of alternatives, but the relative market power with respect to the alternatives.
but I think the feeling behind the GP's post is concern that Google is rapidly getting to the point where they will have too much information and control over markets.
Which is governed mainly by the Sherman and Clayton anti-trust acts. But the GP's actual point was about evil, which is a moral and ethical issue. The legal questions are related to morality and ethics, but they are not the same. GP's point is about whether Google has unambigously crossed the line where evil begins. It seems apparent to me that, in this case, Google has done exactly that.
The problem with IPv6 is that it is *not* an extension of IPv4. Instead, it is a "second system syndrome" monument to itself, which entirely explains why it has so far not succeeded in spite of immense hype and effort. The dumbest feature of IPv6? 128 bit addresses instead of 64. But the list just starts there.
Why should a network interface device be some kind of black magic rather than a node in/dev like every single other device? I never understood the point of this.
It's because the linux kernel network maintainer isn't exactly the best designer in the world. Great at maintaining compatibility while loading on the features, good at keeping it relatively bug free, passable at micro-optimization, but sucks beyond belief at design.
Spin it how you will, but carriers banned from advertising iphones in Mexico is a loss for Apple. My crystal ball says that the next chapter in the saga is a big payment from Apple to the owner of the Mexican iFone trademark.
While I'm pleased to see a longstanding opensource project is alive & well, I'm not sure if it's really relevant anymore.
Slashdotter, what say you?
I would say that you are clueless idiot who likes the smell of his own verbal excrement on the internet. The entire open source Linux OpenGL stack is based on Mesa. I am using it right now, haven't touched the annoying binary drivers for years. Works more than well enough for what I need.
The laugh track makes me want to retch. Just what image is linuxfoundation trying to project? Anyway, Linus did not read any tweets that were actually mean, so it is also bait and switch. Funny, indeed. But would be way funnier without the laugh track.
The C macro is a form of computer life that ranks several rungs below C++ templates on the evolutionary scale, somewhere below the common louse and just above slime mold.
Connect a usb keyboard to it if you need that. Bluetooth is not a dea lbreaker for everybody by any means, especially at $100 for a device that in several important ways out-specs the ipad 3 (still being sold for about $500).
Android is Linux. Android is Linux with a skin, just as Ubuntu is. Google is intellectually dishonest. The fact that Apple is just as dishonest is no excuse.
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Yes, and maybe you should ask Amazon about that.
So don't grab those parts. Idiot.
And instead of Java apps they use GW Basic...
Android already have ~80% of the market, this move seems to destroy one of the only competitors left ... empirically, that kind of monopoly has historically never been a good thing in the software industry.
Being able to grab the source and play with it, including doing whatever you wish without license fees kind of takes the sting out.
...a college's job should be teaching fundamentals: language theory, programming theory (e.g. L-Values vs R-Values)...
Out of school too long? There are now xvalues, glvalues and prvalues... "vs" does not apply.
There are still alternatives to Google's service so it's not evil for them to say this
Incorrect. In antitrust law the question is whether a company is able to exercise "market power", which does not depend on the mere existence of alternatives, but the relative market power with respect to the alternatives.
so really google should start making shittier products so there is a more equal playing field to choose from, is that what you're suggesting?
Please do not put words in my mouth. I suggested that Google has crossed the line to the evil side by its action in this matter, which has moral and ethical implications. I noted that the GP meant to draw attention to those. I further noted that there are also legal implications. The sticky legal issue is abuse of market power, not market power per se, provided of course that said market power is amassed through legal means.
So now evil is "If you do not like our terms then we will stop doing business with you."?
It depends on who's saying this. If you have a lot of other options you can go somewhere else. If the company saying this controls the vast majority of the market and is effectively blacklisting you, that certainly isn't good.
Correct so far.
There are still alternatives to Google's service so it's not evil for them to say this
Incorrect. In antitrust law the question is whether a company is able to exercise "market power", which does not depend on the mere existence of alternatives, but the relative market power with respect to the alternatives.
but I think the feeling behind the GP's post is concern that Google is rapidly getting to the point where they will have too much information and control over markets.
Which is governed mainly by the Sherman and Clayton anti-trust acts. But the GP's actual point was about evil, which is a moral and ethical issue. The legal questions are related to morality and ethics, but they are not the same. GP's point is about whether Google has unambigously crossed the line where evil begins. It seems apparent to me that, in this case, Google has done exactly that.
Groklaw... where art thou? You're going to miss the fun... let the patent killing begin. Gentlemen, start your engines.
How nice to have the 800 pound gorilla on our side :)
The problem with IPv6 is that it is *not* an extension of IPv4. Instead, it is a "second system syndrome" monument to itself, which entirely explains why it has so far not succeeded in spite of immense hype and effort. The dumbest feature of IPv6? 128 bit addresses instead of 64. But the list just starts there.
Why should a network interface device be some kind of black magic rather than a node in /dev like every single other device? I never understood the point of this.
It's because the linux kernel network maintainer isn't exactly the best designer in the world. Great at maintaining compatibility while loading on the features, good at keeping it relatively bug free, passable at micro-optimization, but sucks beyond belief at design.
Spin it how you will, but carriers banned from advertising iphones in Mexico is a loss for Apple. My crystal ball says that the next chapter in the saga is a big payment from Apple to the owner of the Mexican iFone trademark.
While I'm pleased to see a longstanding opensource project is alive & well, I'm not sure if it's really relevant anymore.
Slashdotter, what say you?
I would say that you are clueless idiot who likes the smell of his own verbal excrement on the internet. The entire open source Linux OpenGL stack is based on Mesa. I am using it right now, haven't touched the annoying binary drivers for years. Works more than well enough for what I need.
...I do miss his "F*CK YOU NVIDIA" attitude sometimes
There ya go.
The laugh track makes me want to retch. Just what image is linuxfoundation trying to project? Anyway, Linus did not read any tweets that were actually mean, so it is also bait and switch. Funny, indeed. But would be way funnier without the laugh track.
The C macro is a form of computer life that ranks several rungs below C++ templates on the evolutionary scale, somewhere below the common louse and just above slime mold.
Starting with a dead simple module like this is correct.
/dev/input
Right, more lines is better. More cores is better. Higher numbers are better. Everybody knows that.
Ipad 3 for U. $500. Right, I don't know why either.
You come across as a slavering Apple zombie.
Please name "several important ways" in which this ... out-specs the iPad3?
The HP tablet has a quad processor, a microSD slot, and a better operating system :)
Connect a usb keyboard to it if you need that. Bluetooth is not a dea lbreaker for everybody by any means, especially at $100 for a device that in several important ways out-specs the ipad 3 (still being sold for about $500).
The original fail
Looks like Zenimax is just jealous of Oculus' buyout.
They're also angry that Carmack jumped ship and took a vast amount of 'their' employees with him.
Perhaps they should have treated him with the respect he deserves.
I don't like this growing trend where people insist on creating everything as video...
The growing trend of dumbing down? It was always growing and always will.
And, no, Android is NOT Linux.
Android is Linux. Android is Linux with a skin, just as Ubuntu is. Google is intellectually dishonest. The fact that Apple is just as dishonest is no excuse.