Apple can at best claim a short term reversal of an alarming trend (for it) in the US market at the cost of significantly reduced margins. In other news, Apple is getting hammered in the world market. China is turning into a major disaster for Apple, and will soon be a larger market for smartphones than the US.
Apple's product ideas died with Steve Jobs. Tim Cook is a complete limp wrist. Example brilliant Tim Cook idea: make the new iphone too long and not wide enough, because increasing the horizontal pixel count is way too scary.
Wow, Apple cultist spinmods really do not like having the obvious pointed out to them. Get over it. Magic Apple died with Steve Jobs. Sunset Apple has arrived.
If a stock rises as the dividend date gets closer, purely because of the dividend then those new buyers are just gullible, and the everybody who failed to value the company accurately is just stupid. Proof: if we could rely on a stock price increasing just before the dividend then we would bid up the price right now, well before the dividend. And so the stock would not rise in advance of the dividend because it was already fully valued. See?
It is a mystery to me why somebody with mod points would feel offended by having basic financial facts explained to them.
Fits perfectly. Things changed after Jobs died. In fact, they changed while he was dying. Top selling phones got bigger and wider. Tim Cook failed to respond. Blaming that on a dead man is a cop out. When you get right down to it, Tim Cook's main superpower would appear to be blame deflection, just as you say.
If a stock rises as the dividend date gets closer, purely because of the dividend then those new buyers are just gullible, and the everybody who failed to value the company accurately is just stupid. Proof: if we could rely on a stock price increasing just before the dividend then we would bid up the price right now, well before the dividend. And so the stock would not rise in advance of the dividend because it was already fully valued. See?
If you don't see, then I have a perpetual motion machine to sell you.
Apple's product ideas died with Steve Jobs. Tim Cook is a complete limp wrist. Example brilliant Tim Cook idea: make the new iphone too long and not wide enough, because increasing the horizontal pixel count is way too scary.
Repurchasing stock is meant to increase shareholder value, raising the dividend is meant to do the same.
The latter is completely wrong (other than tax treatment, dividends have a neutral effect on shardholder value). The former is correct only because a company acting rationally will only purchase its own stock if it is confident that the stock is undervalued. It is far from clear to me that Apple's stock is undervalued.
It is a myth that dividends drive up the price of stock. The simple relation is this: after the dividend is paid, the company no longer has the money so the stock is worth less. You can easily verify this, just look at the price of any stable company on the ex div date. It will be lower by roughly the dividend.
Translation for those unfamiliar with the drill: Apple shareholders want their money back now because they expect Apple management to steal or waste it otherwise.
"the design patent also includes the flat back and front, the curved surface that ties the front to the back, and the fact that the corners are all uniform in shape and circular rather than oval shaped"
When you get right down to it, the iphone design is butt ugly when you put something like a Nexus 4 or Galaxy S4 next to it.
Don't you think cruising the world on a mega-yacht filled with every toy imaginable and with a harem of beautiful women would pall after a while? Errr actually no, you're good.
The issue comes up when somebody passes you in an even bigger yacht owned by somebody who is actually attractive.
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Exactly. And my entire point is that whoever is counting on an inefficient market to somehow support Apple's stock price is a fool.
What I described has a simple, two word name: efficient market. Say, did you ever read a finance textbook? Or try wikipedia/a.
But there is no conceivable market larger than the phone market.
Apart from food, water, and air.
iFood! Milled out of solid aluminum.
Wow, you Apple cultists are creative. At least there's that. Logic is optional.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/04/comscore-february-2013/
Android subscribers: 51.7%
iPhone subscribers: 38.9%
Apple can at best claim a short term reversal of an alarming trend (for it) in the US market at the cost of significantly reduced margins. In other news, Apple is getting hammered in the world market. China is turning into a major disaster for Apple, and will soon be a larger market for smartphones than the US.
Apple's product ideas died with Steve Jobs. Tim Cook is a complete limp wrist. Example brilliant Tim Cook idea: make the new iphone too long and not wide enough, because increasing the horizontal pixel count is way too scary.
Wow, Apple cultist spinmods really do not like having the obvious pointed out to them. Get over it. Magic Apple died with Steve Jobs. Sunset Apple has arrived.
Wow, this is weird. Apple spinmods modding down anybody who explains that dividends do not drive up a stock price, they do the opposite?
If a stock rises as the dividend date gets closer, purely because of the dividend then those new buyers are just gullible, and the everybody who failed to value the company accurately is just stupid. Proof: if we could rely on a stock price increasing just before the dividend then we would bid up the price right now, well before the dividend. And so the stock would not rise in advance of the dividend because it was already fully valued. See?
It is a mystery to me why somebody with mod points would feel offended by having basic financial facts explained to them.
Fits perfectly. Things changed after Jobs died. In fact, they changed while he was dying. Top selling phones got bigger and wider. Tim Cook failed to respond. Blaming that on a dead man is a cop out. When you get right down to it, Tim Cook's main superpower would appear to be blame deflection, just as you say.
If a stock rises as the dividend date gets closer, purely because of the dividend then those new buyers are just gullible, and the everybody who failed to value the company accurately is just stupid. Proof: if we could rely on a stock price increasing just before the dividend then we would bid up the price right now, well before the dividend. And so the stock would not rise in advance of the dividend because it was already fully valued. See?
If you don't see, then I have a perpetual motion machine to sell you.
Apple's product ideas died with Steve Jobs. Tim Cook is a complete limp wrist. Example brilliant Tim Cook idea: make the new iphone too long and not wide enough, because increasing the horizontal pixel count is way too scary.
Repurchasing stock is meant to increase shareholder value, raising the dividend is meant to do the same.
The latter is completely wrong (other than tax treatment, dividends have a neutral effect on shardholder value). The former is correct only because a company acting rationally will only purchase its own stock if it is confident that the stock is undervalued. It is far from clear to me that Apple's stock is undervalued.
It is a myth that dividends drive up the price of stock. The simple relation is this: after the dividend is paid, the company no longer has the money so the stock is worth less. You can easily verify this, just look at the price of any stable company on the ex div date. It will be lower by roughly the dividend.
Translation for those unfamiliar with the drill: Apple shareholders want their money back now because they expect Apple management to steal or waste it otherwise.
Apple will never get back to those windfall margins in the phone or tablet space, ever.
In my opinion, they just will burn their cash. It is inevitable: they must lower device prices, so their shares will fall. No way out.
Most accurate comment ever. Apple defeated by Android/Linux, who woulda thunkit?
12v is a bit dinosaur, don't you think?
In the beginning, there was nothing. Then it exploded.
"He" pushed the button.
In design parlance, it's called a "fillet", arguably the most common design element after a straight line. Because it's easy to calculate.
"the design patent also includes the flat back and front, the curved surface that ties the front to the back, and the fact that the corners are all uniform in shape and circular rather than oval shaped"
When you get right down to it, the iphone design is butt ugly when you put something like a Nexus 4 or Galaxy S4 next to it.
What part of what part of part of do you not understand?
Windows x86 PC peddling is a sunset business, or are those flaming letters written on that wall over there not large enough for you?
Dell has zero traction in the tablet space.
Don't you think cruising the world on a mega-yacht filled with every toy imaginable and with a harem of beautiful women would pall after a while? Errr actually no, you're good.
The issue comes up when somebody passes you in an even bigger yacht owned by somebody who is actually attractive.
As long as Microsoft continues to get away with these patent agreements with Android device manufactures, their future is bright.
The possibility exists that Microsoft may have to pay all that back and then some if their patent shakedowns are found to be illegal in any way.