So, crashing the party to showcase your awe inspiring intellect then.
You don't encode video on the GPU while rendering unless you are OK with dropping the frame rate.
seeing as encoding on a GPU is 4 to 5 times faster than on a CPU and it saves the time time of fetching unencoded video from the frame buffer to system memory. I'll be glad to trade the overhead.
Why is it necessary to explain it to you in words of one syllable? Lose frame rate.
You are still confused. GPUs have high on-board memory bandwidth because they use it internally for texel and vertex fetching etc. Graphics features like filtering are highly memory intensive with typically multiple accesses per texel per raster op in on board memory. The bandwidth the CPU uses to upload primary data to the GPU is comparatively much less. Unless you made a major mistake, like not populating both controller channels, your streaming setup is unlikely to bottleneck on memory, including reading the framebuffer per frame.
You don't encode video on the GPU while rendering unless you are OK with dropping the frame rate. Another practical reason: your streaming software probably doesn't support it. This is typically done on CPU cores using the SIMD unit.
"You may have noticed that GPUs generally have much much wider memory"... I feel that you are just burping out random factoids you picked up somewhere in the hope that you can bluster your way through trying to make a point about not needing cores. Explain it to the streamers, who won't have a lot of patience for your theories because they know otherwise.
And you don't seem to be clear on the distribution of work between CPU and GPU. It takes more cores to feed a bigger GPU. You go tell the streamers that they don't need multiple cores. They know otherwise.
Play videos in multiple tabs. Access multiple crappy javascript sites. There are any number of ways to consume cpu in multiple tabs. I can only presume that you never looked at CPU consumption while browsing. In theory, browsing should be efficient. In practice, it isn't.
Your desktop is almost always doing something that parallelizes really well. For example, browsing - each tab runs in a separate thread. And with Vulkan/DX12 games now will use as many cores as you have, to feed a big GPU. The classic one is gaming and streaming, that used to be an issue before Ryzen.
If you are compiling or doing anything with video there is no such thing as too many cores.
Not for very much longer. And for me, like most of us, value is the decider. I'm also finding AMD's thermal performance excellent these days, and I just love how long the sockets last. AM4 really delivered on its future-proof promise.
My Ryzen says "diffused in USA", which translates as "made in USA, packaged in China". Wherever it's made, the lion's share of the profits are from selling the chip, not making it, and that all comes back to USA.
For bragging rights it's tough to beat a 32 core 2990WX Threadripper, now going $1730, that is, $150 less than the Intel part with 14 more cores. For that matter, a 16 core 1950X for $650 probably still makes you the best desktop on the block.
Of course, what we all really want is a 7nm 32 core Castle Peak Threadripper, possibly going to be announced about eight weeks from now. The ultimate desktop hotrod. Still TR4, so can do the build now with a 1950X as a placeholder, or a 1900X for $353, still a highly respectable part.
AMD currently owns the enthusiast sector with good reason.
I haven't laughed as hard as 2016 election night in a long time. Just awesome!
So basically what you're saying is, you're a giant douche, projecting. I still agree with you about Hillary staying out, hardly for the same reason but thanks for self-identifying.
you might expect the Muslims in muslim minority countries will be more fanatical.
No, I do not expect that, and I do not expect that you can produce any credible evidence to support that. This is the simple, time honored principle: moderation breeds moderation while extremism breeds extremism. And I view with contempt the extremist who presents as a moderate with the ill hidden goal of fostering extremism, such as more than one poster to this thread.
You characterization is crude and inaccurate. But I am with you nonetheless, I agree that Hillary Clinton should do the right thing and stay on the bench, even though the country would be immeasurably better with her in the oval office than evil clown Trump (a characterization that is both warranted and accurate, unlike yours.) She should step back because she is not the best candidate to defeat evil clown Trump. That colossal mistake must not be repeated. One can only hope that she can read the pattern in her cheerios.
Just another reason to buy elsewhere. Apple was never great at debugging but it's progressed to downright awful. Any luck with that overheating wireless charger?
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the questions are, how are you are going to lose more and what is the best use of resources to build the system.
Tying up GPU compute units isn't it. You obviously are no gamer. But you are a loudmouth.
So, crashing the party to showcase your awe inspiring intellect then.
You don't encode video on the GPU while rendering unless you are OK with dropping the frame rate.
seeing as encoding on a GPU is 4 to 5 times faster than on a CPU and it saves the time time of fetching unencoded video from the frame buffer to system memory. I'll be glad to trade the overhead.
Why is it necessary to explain it to you in words of one syllable? Lose frame rate.
You are still confused. GPUs have high on-board memory bandwidth because they use it internally for texel and vertex fetching etc. Graphics features like filtering are highly memory intensive with typically multiple accesses per texel per raster op in on board memory. The bandwidth the CPU uses to upload primary data to the GPU is comparatively much less. Unless you made a major mistake, like not populating both controller channels, your streaming setup is unlikely to bottleneck on memory, including reading the framebuffer per frame.
You don't encode video on the GPU while rendering unless you are OK with dropping the frame rate. Another practical reason: your streaming software probably doesn't support it. This is typically done on CPU cores using the SIMD unit.
"You may have noticed that GPUs generally have much much wider memory"... I feel that you are just burping out random factoids you picked up somewhere in the hope that you can bluster your way through trying to make a point about not needing cores. Explain it to the streamers, who won't have a lot of patience for your theories because they know otherwise.
Fact is, people do care. Whether it is a perception of sloppy Intel engineering, or security, people do care.
And you don't seem to be clear on the distribution of work between CPU and GPU. It takes more cores to feed a bigger GPU. You go tell the streamers that they don't need multiple cores. They know otherwise.
Play videos in multiple tabs. Access multiple crappy javascript sites. There are any number of ways to consume cpu in multiple tabs. I can only presume that you never looked at CPU consumption while browsing. In theory, browsing should be efficient. In practice, it isn't.
Your desktop is almost always doing something that parallelizes really well. For example, browsing - each tab runs in a separate thread. And with Vulkan/DX12 games now will use as many cores as you have, to feed a big GPU. The classic one is gaming and streaming, that used to be an issue before Ryzen.
If you are compiling or doing anything with video there is no such thing as too many cores.
I like the TR parts but they really need to cut down the idle power, 100W+ at idle (!)
Tom's Hardware says 35 watts for the 2990WX at idle.
For my trusty Ryzen 1700 box, the entire system power measured at the wall is 38 watts at idle.
Intel wins the IPCs
Not for very much longer. And for me, like most of us, value is the decider. I'm also finding AMD's thermal performance excellent these days, and I just love how long the sockets last. AM4 really delivered on its future-proof promise.
In other words, the Israeli guys knew what they were doing.
My Ryzen says "diffused in USA", which translates as "made in USA, packaged in China". Wherever it's made, the lion's share of the profits are from selling the chip, not making it, and that all comes back to USA.
For bragging rights it's tough to beat a 32 core 2990WX Threadripper, now going $1730, that is, $150 less than the Intel part with 14 more cores. For that matter, a 16 core 1950X for $650 probably still makes you the best desktop on the block.
Of course, what we all really want is a 7nm 32 core Castle Peak Threadripper, possibly going to be announced about eight weeks from now. The ultimate desktop hotrod. Still TR4, so can do the build now with a 1950X as a placeholder, or a 1900X for $353, still a highly respectable part.
AMD currently owns the enthusiast sector with good reason.
Nothing is hilarious about the current situation, whatever your politics. Only a nut or a troll would say that. Which one are you?
And abandoned as rapidly as possible like investors are doing with AAPL stock.
It's the truth. Apple down another 1% today, and down 17% in the month.
Your posts are entirely content free.
Hillary is the most investigated candidate ever, nothing stuck. Trump on the other hand...
So yes, you are a douche, but you know that. You probably like it.
Which statistics did you produce, Mr Holier than Thou?
I haven't laughed as hard as 2016 election night in a long time. Just awesome!
So basically what you're saying is, you're a giant douche, projecting. I still agree with you about Hillary staying out, hardly for the same reason but thanks for self-identifying.
Apple slimeball just can't tear his eyes away from my posts. I hope you own AAPL stock. .
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Just kidding, you don't own anything.
you might expect the Muslims in muslim minority countries will be more fanatical.
No, I do not expect that, and I do not expect that you can produce any credible evidence to support that. This is the simple, time honored principle: moderation breeds moderation while extremism breeds extremism. And I view with contempt the extremist who presents as a moderate with the ill hidden goal of fostering extremism, such as more than one poster to this thread.
Which kind are you?
You characterization is crude and inaccurate. But I am with you nonetheless, I agree that Hillary Clinton should do the right thing and stay on the bench, even though the country would be immeasurably better with her in the oval office than evil clown Trump (a characterization that is both warranted and accurate, unlike yours.) She should step back because she is not the best candidate to defeat evil clown Trump. That colossal mistake must not be repeated. One can only hope that she can read the pattern in her cheerios.
An older and wiser 'liberal' IS a conservative. Don't laugh, it will happen to you too.
It already happened, I'm conservative but did not lose my humanity. Hence having nothing to do with evil clown Trump.
And abandoned as rapidly as possible like investors are doing with AAPL stock.
not one controlled mainstream media outlet carries the story.
You're full of crap.
Just another reason to buy elsewhere. Apple was never great at debugging but it's progressed to downright awful. Any luck with that overheating wireless charger?