They're abiding by the terms of the GPL and considering giving more than is required. It's a company, not a charity.
Google's going to hate it when they end up competing against their own hacked code base, then maybe the strategic stupidity of the permissive license will finally sink in.
I agree that there is room for GPL software and there are some valid reasons for having it. However, I think it should be the exception rather than the rule.
Easy to say that if you're one of those all take and no give kinds of people.
Intel contributes to a number of GPLed projects including the Linux kernel and they release the source for that.
So they only do the right then when legally forced to? I don't know about you, but I don't think Intel needs a "spokesman" like that out there pissing off the community they need to build their network effect.
'Where we are required to give back to open source, we do,' said Bell. 'In cases where it's not required to be open source, I'm going to think about it.'
OK think about it, Mike, but keep your proprietary, non peer-reviewed crap. I don't want it. And if you feel the need to put some of that crap on your own processors, you can keep those too.
...my Linux box tends to hang up after about 30 minutes of being connected to a IPv6 network via WiFi... as far as I can make out NetworkManager does some stupid things...
I recently saved just over $200 on a new HP laptop thanks to BB's price-matching policy... It was honestly one of the better customer service experiences I've had. There's an exception to every rule, I guess!
I'll have to take your word for that. Just don't try to actually collect on a warranty from BB, speaking from bitter experience.
In the US of A you just order it from Amazon or Newegg and it arrives a couple days later. And they actually have a reasonable selection, unlike Canada.
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Since a European Union antitrust ruling, Microsoft has been co-operating with the Samba team by providing them documentation.
Not everybody at Microsoft is evil. Spineless maybe, for sticking with an unethical employer even when possessing easily transportable skills and probably not even earning at top potential. Or maybe we even have some moles in there, little intrusions of morality only staying with Microsoft because of the good they can do in the face of rampant immorality. But I doubt it, that's just me trying to be nice. I'm not very good at it. I prefer to dwell on the truth.
Oh and I doubt that cooperating enthusiastically with the Samba team is the very best way to accelerate ones career trajectory at Microsoft. On the other hand, management is so far gone there they probably don't know who said what to who or why if it's not on a powerpoint, which we can rest assured it isn't, so maybe people are just doing what they think is right and not getting caught.
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Meh. Sun flushed itself down the toilet and Solaris is on life support. Do we care about Sun's substandard Samba clone?
Give me a break. Samba 4 is not implemented in Python. You're not serious are you? Please tell me you're not serious.
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Microsoft fought interoperability in every way they could using fair means or foul, legal or illegal. And still it did not stop the Samba team. The fact that Microsoft managed to slow them down for years is a testament to... something. Not anything nice.
Domain controllers are really the last bastion of Microsoft's illegal barriers to interoperability. This is a big deal.
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Way to school Microsoft on their own technology!
What, some Microsoft astromod resents being schooled? Get used to it.
Trying to use a desktop interface on a tablet or vice versa is just painful.
Unsupportable claim. I have my Xoom set up so it's physically nearly the same as a netbook - portfolio case, bluetooth keyboard, bluetooth trackpad (coming soon). There is no reason whatsoever I can't run my usual desktop software on it and use it just as I always use it except that it isn't installed. BTW, I can type 60 wps on this, no problem, vs just a little more on a keyboard with full travel keys.
the "playskool" interface makes perfect sense on a touch-based device
And Windows loses its one strong point - familiarity. Leaving it with short battery life and most likely scary heat issues.
By the way, I like my travelling arrangement with my Xoom a lot more that the transformer's snap-together concept. For me, operating on an airliner fold out tray is a prime requirement and the Transformer loses two ways: 1) the screen can't be moved around independently of the keyboard and 2) the trackpad adds a lot of real estate to the keyboard that I don't need because I can just touch the screen (and get out a dedicated bluetooth trackpad when desk space is available). The airliner compatibility issue is also why battery life is important to me and why this Windows transformer simply will not do, even if it had a real OS.
This will be a great way to compare x86 battery consumption to ARM tablets and cut through the misinformation. The bottom line is: what is the price you pay in weight and battery hours to run Windows?
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They're abiding by the terms of the GPL and considering giving more than is required. It's a company, not a charity.
Google's going to hate it when they end up competing against their own hacked code base, then maybe the strategic stupidity of the permissive license will finally sink in.
Why is everyone bashing Intel? They are releasing everything they are required to.
Because they say they plan to do the opposite of being good citizens.
I agree that there is room for GPL software and there are some valid reasons for having it. However, I think it should be the exception rather than the rule.
Easy to say that if you're one of those all take and no give kinds of people.
Intel contributes to a number of GPLed projects including the Linux kernel and they release the source for that.
So they only do the right then when legally forced to? I don't know about you, but I don't think Intel needs a "spokesman" like that out there pissing off the community they need to build their network effect.
'Where we are required to give back to open source, we do,' said Bell. 'In cases where it's not required to be open source, I'm going to think about it.'
OK think about it, Mike, but keep your proprietary, non peer-reviewed crap. I don't want it. And if you feel the need to put some of that crap on your own processors, you can keep those too.
As the Internet growth is still accelerating, it turns out that if we do that, it will only extend the life of IPv4 by only a few months
When do those few months begin, in your opinion? (Rest assure that I will remind you of your guess when whatever time period you pick has expired.)
...my Linux box tends to hang up after about 30 minutes of being connected to a IPv6 network via WiFi... as far as I can make out NetworkManager does some stupid things...
NetworkManager is demon spawn.
250% of a rounding error is still a rounding error. How many years has it been?
I recently saved just over $200 on a new HP laptop thanks to BB's price-matching policy... It was honestly one of the better customer service experiences I've had. There's an exception to every rule, I guess!
I'll have to take your word for that. Just don't try to actually collect on a warranty from BB, speaking from bitter experience.
In the US of A you just order it from Amazon or Newegg and it arrives a couple days later. And they actually have a reasonable selection, unlike Canada.
Been nice knowing ya... not.
Since a European Union antitrust ruling, Microsoft has been co-operating with the Samba team by providing them documentation.
Not everybody at Microsoft is evil. Spineless maybe, for sticking with an unethical employer even when possessing easily transportable skills and probably not even earning at top potential. Or maybe we even have some moles in there, little intrusions of morality only staying with Microsoft because of the good they can do in the face of rampant immorality. But I doubt it, that's just me trying to be nice. I'm not very good at it. I prefer to dwell on the truth.
Oh and I doubt that cooperating enthusiastically with the Samba team is the very best way to accelerate ones career trajectory at Microsoft. On the other hand, management is so far gone there they probably don't know who said what to who or why if it's not on a powerpoint, which we can rest assured it isn't, so maybe people are just doing what they think is right and not getting caught.
Meh. Sun flushed itself down the toilet and Solaris is on life support. Do we care about Sun's substandard Samba clone?
Tridge is so super talented. Wish he had focused on rsync....
Why? It's perfectly well maintained by others, his talent is needed in other places. By the way, if you think rsync is cool, check out rzip.
Give me a break. Samba 4 is not implemented in Python. You're not serious are you? Please tell me you're not serious.
Microsoft fought interoperability in every way they could using fair means or foul, legal or illegal. And still it did not stop the Samba team. The fact that Microsoft managed to slow them down for years is a testament to... something. Not anything nice.
Domain controllers are really the last bastion of Microsoft's illegal barriers to interoperability. This is a big deal.
Way to school Microsoft on their own technology!
What, some Microsoft astromod resents being schooled? Get used to it.
Everyone here is confused...
Speak for yourself. I know a crappy company run by a big swinging dick when I see one.
Just because Oracle was wrong doesn't make them a troll...
Totally right. Being a troll makes Oracle a troll.
Or in other words, it takes one to know one.
Way to school Microsoft on their own technology!
...60 wpm of course
Trying to use a desktop interface on a tablet or vice versa is just painful.
Unsupportable claim. I have my Xoom set up so it's physically nearly the same as a netbook - portfolio case, bluetooth keyboard, bluetooth trackpad (coming soon). There is no reason whatsoever I can't run my usual desktop software on it and use it just as I always use it except that it isn't installed. BTW, I can type 60 wps on this, no problem, vs just a little more on a keyboard with full travel keys.
the "playskool" interface makes perfect sense on a touch-based device
And Windows loses its one strong point - familiarity. Leaving it with short battery life and most likely scary heat issues.
By the way, I like my travelling arrangement with my Xoom a lot more that the transformer's snap-together concept. For me, operating on an airliner fold out tray is a prime requirement and the Transformer loses two ways: 1) the screen can't be moved around independently of the keyboard and 2) the trackpad adds a lot of real estate to the keyboard that I don't need because I can just touch the screen (and get out a dedicated bluetooth trackpad when desk space is available). The airliner compatibility issue is also why battery life is important to me and why this Windows transformer simply will not do, even if it had a real OS.
This will be a great way to compare x86 battery consumption to ARM tablets and cut through the misinformation. The bottom line is: what is the price you pay in weight and battery hours to run Windows?