There's nothing wrong with having a conflict of interest, there is something wrong with accusing others of it while having your own that you refuse to acknowledge.
He recently had to disclose that he is paid by Microsoft (something long claimed by those who distrusted him) and now we see that he is also paid by Oracle.
Larry Ellison and Steve Ballmer as bedfellows, what a thought.
I can't help but believe the slow advance of the project is at least partly because a supposed expert on open source spent a lot of his time ranting about it.
What slow advance? For a major technology project like that, reaching a usable state was practically instantaneous. One thing you can be sure of: Forian Mueller had zero effect on it. Strengthened people's resolve, if anything.
You can bank on it: anyone who uses rhetoric like "foss lunatic" has an paid agenda And tactic one from the Standard Shill Manual is "deny you are a shill".
I got to the truth and facts rather easily by reading beyond the headline and Slashdot's summary. I have a hard time taking you seriously if you suggest that "Oracle has hired him [Florian Mueller], for his analysis of FRAND issues" is only supposed to be a concern for what you label 'FOSS lunatics' when Mueller positions himself as some sort of patent expert supposedly giving objective analysis of the Oracle vs Google case, and isn't willing to be up-front about one of the parties *actually having hired him*. Also, I believe 'being hired by Oracle' means he does work for Oracle in return for pay. How does that make him being employed by Oracle an outright lie?
Indeed. It is common to say "hire a consultant" or "employ a consultant".
It's not a question as to whether the opinion is invalid, just that it may be tainted and that should be disclosed.
In Florian's case, it is not a question of "may be tainted", but rather "is blatantly biased". And then there are the personal attacks on PJ, which are in a word, reprehensible. And of course, very much in line with the standard tactics of ethically challenged organizations like Microsoft and Oracle.
How did Apple did it wrong (that Facebook or Valve did not?)
Oh, I don't know, maybe it's something like putting pictures of teddy bears on packages of cigarettes? Maybe Facebook and Valve are in the wrong as well, I don't know. That in no way would absolve Apple.
And what Apple is accused of doing is "allowing games geared at kids to push them to make purchases." Apple is no common carrier, Apple exercises control over every app sold through its store. And is therefore responsible for the app, including any immoral, unethical or downright illegal inducement of children to enter into financial transactions.
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Different strokes I suppose -- I love using the ribbon.
I prefer real toilet paper myself.
Here they come.
You come across as conflicted, my friend. And I will leave it as completely apparent which one of us is rude.
You'd know if you read the thread, moron. Stop pretending you're smarter than anyone else.
I know two things: 1) you are rude and 2) you did not disclose your agenda.
There's nothing wrong with having a conflict of interest, there is something wrong with accusing others of it while having your own that you refuse to acknowledge.
What's yours?
He recently had to disclose that he is paid by Microsoft (something long claimed by those who distrusted him) and now we see that he is also paid by Oracle.
Larry Ellison and Steve Ballmer as bedfellows, what a thought.
Enderle was never paid by SCO for his opinions...
You don't know that.
I can't help but believe the slow advance of the project is at least partly because a supposed expert on open source spent a lot of his time ranting about it.
What slow advance? For a major technology project like that, reaching a usable state was practically instantaneous. One thing you can be sure of: Forian Mueller had zero effect on it. Strengthened people's resolve, if anything.
There really is not much difference in ethics or morals of McNealy, Ellison, Gates, Balmer, etc.. They are all scum.
You left "Steve Jobs" out of that list. Oh wait, maybe I know why.
All consultants are employees by definition of employee [wiktionary.org]
The IRS would beg to differ...
"Tax purposes".
This is way beyond the pot calling the kettle black here, this is the pot complaining that the kettle boils water.
Hi Florian.
Groklaw's coverage of the case has been massively one-sided as well....
Oh yes indeed, Groklaw is very biased. Groklaw is in favor of freedom and decency, and against evil.
You can bank on it: anyone who uses rhetoric like "foss lunatic" has an paid agenda And tactic one from the Standard Shill Manual is "deny you are a shill".
I got to the truth and facts rather easily by reading beyond the headline and Slashdot's summary. I have a hard time taking you seriously if you suggest that "Oracle has hired him [Florian Mueller], for his analysis of FRAND issues" is only supposed to be a concern for what you label 'FOSS lunatics' when Mueller positions himself as some sort of patent expert supposedly giving objective analysis of the Oracle vs Google case, and isn't willing to be up-front about one of the parties *actually having hired him*. Also, I believe 'being hired by Oracle' means he does work for Oracle in return for pay. How does that make him being employed by Oracle an outright lie?
Indeed. It is common to say "hire a consultant" or "employ a consultant".
It's not a question as to whether the opinion is invalid, just that it may be tainted and that should be disclosed.
In Florian's case, it is not a question of "may be tainted", but rather "is blatantly biased". And then there are the personal attacks on PJ, which are in a word, reprehensible. And of course, very much in line with the standard tactics of ethically challenged organizations like Microsoft and Oracle.
Ah look, another disgruntled SCO investor shooting the messenger.
Shooting at the messenger. Those SCO guys don't seem to have very good aim.
Uh, she works for a divorce attorney, and has stated this several times over the ast 10 years, groklaw was her own side project.
A side project that has made a large mark in legal history, introducing the concept of "open source" law and demonstrating its effectiveness.
Because he typically does not disclose his alignment when he provides interviews to the press.
Agreed. They were off on the details (works for Oracle, not MS), but they were right that something smelled rotten.
The possibility is not ruled out that he has also received money from Microsoft. Microsoft can be devious about how it channels money to its proxies.
Douchebags like that need to be humiliated (if that is even possible) into shame for total lack of parental skills.
Wow, this is how an Apple fanboy thinks?
I don't expect the dad to win this case.
When judges certify actions it is because they believe there is a significant possibility of success.
maybe its time to rethink having an iPhone
Best suggestion I've heard so far.
How did Apple did it wrong (that Facebook or Valve did not?)
Oh, I don't know, maybe it's something like putting pictures of teddy bears on packages of cigarettes? Maybe Facebook and Valve are in the wrong as well, I don't know. That in no way would absolve Apple.
And what Apple is accused of doing is "allowing games geared at kids to push them to make purchases." Apple is no common carrier, Apple exercises control over every app sold through its store. And is therefore responsible for the app, including any immoral, unethical or downright illegal inducement of children to enter into financial transactions.
So why go after Apple?
Because Apple did it and it is wrong.