Three sensors and the one fails the other two can vote it down.
And there are recorded cases where the sensor voted down was the only one functioning. Better go on to design a system that isn't prone to killing people because sensors failed, no matter what combination.
For legacy reasons, the aircraft is designed with fallback to manual as the default logic.
The problem is, the aircraft does not fall back to manual. In fact, this evil control system is only active when the plane is under so-called manual control. But it isn't actually under manual control, it's under control of a computer seemingly designed to kill entire planeloads of passengers, and that is exactly what it did. Twice.
Some skill, some training, some luck, and 300 people would be alive now. But that does not change the fact that Boeing sold a deathtrap junkheap of a plane that requires special skill, special training, and special luck, or it will dive straight into the ground and blow up in a huge fireball, killing everybody.
Actually, Boeing needs to design a better airframe that isn't to prone to stall, and go through the type certification like they should have done in the first place. Hundreds of people died simply because Boeing played games to avoid type certification.
You again. Apparently you do understand that it was not the autopilot that dove the plane into the ground, and that is just the beginning of your display of ignorance. Just shut up.
How the fuck did this ever make it into production.
On many levels. The airframe is just a disaster. The landing gear is so stubby it risks a tail strike on every landing, and the wrongly placed engines make it dynamically unstable in near stall. Then there are the obsolete hydraulics and controls and basically the whole plane is a museum piece. Let it go. Just let it die.
EVERY pilot is supposed to understand that if you are experiencing a runaway stabilizer that disabling the electric trim system is how you stop it.
Fuck off. The trim should not have run away, on top of the whole sad fiasco starting with the stubby landing gear. Boeing put the flight crew in a position where they needed to solve a puzzle in one minute or die in a huge fireball. They didn't figure out for whatever reason and hundreds died. Boeing did that.
Listen, just fuck off asshole. Boeing will pay, but it won't bring those people back to life.
It's pretty much a given Boeing will to lose this one big, and pay big. But that cost will be small compared to the customer defections, which have already started.
It's beyond me why anybody would think it's a good idea buy an obsolete deathtrap 737 in the first place.
Wow, insightful, you are a great detective. Please allow me to clarify one additional point: not only are you the product, you are Zuckerberg's sex toy, and you got his stuff on you.
Oh please, Goldman dudes, don't make me laugh. Anybody who can write the kind of stuff you hope for can easily pull down three times your entire reward budget in a year, at minimum. Nobody with the ability to write something worth real money is going to hand you copyright for that pittance.
Boeing's reason for adding the MCAS was not stupid, it was nefarious. Boeing intended to avoid the expense and delay of certifying a new type, that is the entire story. So sorry about killing hundreds of people, it's just business.
Boeing employees and surrogates are pumping out spin on social networking sites because they are trying desperately to deflect liability, and they desperately want to keep selling zombie 737 airframes to grab business from Airbus.
This is a bullshit argument being repeated by the uninformed or illiterate. Engine placement did not cause the planes to crash.
Yes it did, asshole. The 737 Max is dynamically unstable in near stall, because of the unwanted lift generated by the engine nacelles in that particular placement. Everybody knows this but you.
However, we are comparing height increase of US to Netherlands. Netherlands has had universal health since 1941. Of course there are other factors, but health care and nutrition are huge ones.
Not only are Americans getting relatively shorter compared to other developed countries, they are dying younger too. Time to quit the denial.
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Three sensors and the one fails the other two can vote it down.
And there are recorded cases where the sensor voted down was the only one functioning. Better go on to design a system that isn't prone to killing people because sensors failed, no matter what combination.
The fuck up here is miniscule.
I don't know where you got that from. There was a massive chain of fuckups, all of them major, and any one of them enough to kill people.
For legacy reasons, the aircraft is designed with fallback to manual as the default logic.
The problem is, the aircraft does not fall back to manual. In fact, this evil control system is only active when the plane is under so-called manual control. But it isn't actually under manual control, it's under control of a computer seemingly designed to kill entire planeloads of passengers, and that is exactly what it did. Twice.
Some skill, some training, some luck, and 300 people would be alive now. But that does not change the fact that Boeing sold a deathtrap junkheap of a plane that requires special skill, special training, and special luck, or it will dive straight into the ground and blow up in a huge fireball, killing everybody.
Actually, Boeing needs to design a better airframe that isn't to prone to stall, and go through the type certification like they should have done in the first place. Hundreds of people died simply because Boeing played games to avoid type certification.
The real design issue is that the airframe was stretched past its limits until it became unsound.
You again. Apparently you do understand that it was not the autopilot that dove the plane into the ground, and that is just the beginning of your display of ignorance. Just shut up.
How the fuck did this ever make it into production.
On many levels. The airframe is just a disaster. The landing gear is so stubby it risks a tail strike on every landing, and the wrongly placed engines make it dynamically unstable in near stall. Then there are the obsolete hydraulics and controls and basically the whole plane is a museum piece. Let it go. Just let it die.
And all 737s should be junked. Short ones are ancient and long ones are deathtraps.
EVERY pilot is supposed to understand that if you are experiencing a runaway stabilizer that disabling the electric trim system is how you stop it.
Fuck off. The trim should not have run away, on top of the whole sad fiasco starting with the stubby landing gear. Boeing put the flight crew in a position where they needed to solve a puzzle in one minute or die in a huge fireball. They didn't figure out for whatever reason and hundreds died. Boeing did that.
Listen, just fuck off asshole. Boeing will pay, but it won't bring those people back to life.
It's pretty much a given Boeing will to lose this one big, and pay big. But that cost will be small compared to the customer defections, which have already started.
It's beyond me why anybody would think it's a good idea buy an obsolete deathtrap 737 in the first place.
You overlooked the part where you sign your copyright over to Goldman.
Wow, insightful, you are a great detective. Please allow me to clarify one additional point: not only are you the product, you are Zuckerberg's sex toy, and you got his stuff on you.
For $2.56, who said it? (Sheesh, young'uns these days.)
Microseconds, not milliseconds.
Oh please, Goldman dudes, don't make me laugh. Anybody who can write the kind of stuff you hope for can easily pull down three times your entire reward budget in a year, at minimum. Nobody with the ability to write something worth real money is going to hand you copyright for that pittance.
Citation needed.
Give me a break, you have obviously not experienced the horrors of rpmbuild.
On the minus side, Suse uses RPM. That's a deal killer for me.
Is Suse larger than Canonical? Surprised if so.
Boeing's reason for adding the MCAS was not stupid, it was nefarious. Boeing intended to avoid the expense and delay of certifying a new type, that is the entire story. So sorry about killing hundreds of people, it's just business.
Let's try some word association: 737 + deathtrap. Google that.
Boeing employees and surrogates are pumping out spin on social networking sites because they are trying desperately to deflect liability, and they desperately want to keep selling zombie 737 airframes to grab business from Airbus.
This is a bullshit argument being repeated by the uninformed or illiterate. Engine placement did not cause the planes to crash.
Yes it did, asshole. The 737 Max is dynamically unstable in near stall, because of the unwanted lift generated by the engine nacelles in that particular placement. Everybody knows this but you.
However, we are comparing height increase of US to Netherlands. Netherlands has had universal health since 1941. Of course there are other factors, but health care and nutrition are huge ones.
Not only are Americans getting relatively shorter compared to other developed countries, they are dying younger too. Time to quit the denial.