I still can't get Linux to install and run with accelerated graphics on my Radeon card.
This post is a bit less than credible given that it does mention any specific Radeon model. My experience with Radeon cards is much different: every one I have (more than four) works flawlessly, especially with the open source drivers. You do need to install the card firmware package, without that they kinda work as VGA only, but no acceleration, low resolution, sucks. But works well enough to boot to KDE and figure out the bit about the firmware in comfort.
Really slick 2D/3D game editor, nice and stable, great tutorials as far as they go (not very far), great demo projects, free asset packs, fair licensing. Not bad at all for $0.00. Current version is in the last blog entry. For some reason, not linked from their ports page, why? This one is really buried deep in the internet, but it's awesome.
Living room - adjoins kitchen and/or dining room, usually on upper floor of a two floor home, formal furniture, where guests are entertained. Family room (or rec room) - opposite end of house from living room/dining room/kitchen, lower floor of a two floor home, informal furniture, where the kids play. Suburban life.
The fact that an 8700K beats a 2700X in any workload utilizing less than 7 threads [not true], by rather significant margins [not true], and the fact that most games use 1-2 is all you need to know
But you just told me that CPU doesn't matter for games now, because they are GPU-bound. Make up your mind.
You're old now and out of touch with post millennial reality. That livingroom/diningroom/familyroom/yard with lawn and a dog thing belongs to baby boomers.
Honest question, do you always reply point by point to every post on the internet? Little secret here: I didn't read your post. I got bored. Hope you enjoyed writing it.
If you're playing a game with settings that binds its performance to the GPU performance, you're not testing the CPU.
So, exactly what any serious gamer does, I get it. That's exactly why gamers now value extra cores over per-core performance. So they can stream. You seem a bit out of touch.
/me sits back with popcorn and waits for the swearing
Should an additional 30% of the market decide to go AMD, Glofo would be physically unable to meet the demand, dunce. They don't have that problem at the moment, only because of inertia, as I said. Dunce.
AMD did have this problem with 32 core Epycs, sending the price above $3K. Why am I not surprised that you don't know this.
Today AMD unquestionably offers better value in both low end and high end. You want the best low end desktop build? Go AMD. You want the best high end desktop build? Go AMD. You want the best low end server build? Go AMD. You want the best high end server build? Go AMD. It's simple.
Only inertia and AMD's production capacity keeps the market from flipping completely on its head.
Wow, you are a prize. I admit it, you were right on every point, your logic is flawless. You are a genius. Nobody buys AMD, nobody has AMD and it will be even more so next month. You can die now.
Now planning my Threadripper 2 build like many others, but don't worry your pretty head about that.
See, 2700X is roughly even across the board with i7-8700K for games, and demolishes it in multicore, for $53 bucks cheaper. If you think that AMD desktop/gaming market share isn't still increasing right now then you have brain damage. And it gets worse from here, i7 doesn't even have multithreading next product cycle, you have to pay i9 prices to get that. Just brilliant.
The people who have been waiting for a competitive AMD part grabbed one. After that, the market for AMD parts amongst the gamers was saturated.
You do live in your own fantasy land. One month of retrace and you flip out about it. Earth to you: see the big fat 45% share from this German retailer? That's several times what it was 2 years go. (US figures are near impossible to find, but if similar then Intel is shitting bricks).
The Ryzen refresh just landed and guess what? Higher performance for less money. Tell me who wouldn't want a kickass 2700X for cheap, come on, don't lie. Now AMD has turned around its fortunes in servers too, the first gen Epyc was a hit, they couldn't make enough of them. Second gen is here, it's a huge success, multiple brand name vendors will ship it. New Laptops designs are coming out now on the strength AMD's APUs. Even Intel will ship AMD GPUs now. Talk about endorsement.
AMD's 7nm parts are ramping up, we will see 7nm Ryzens and Threadrippers in 1H19 while Intel is still stuck rebuilding its failed 10nm fabs. Many folks who went Ryzen this year got addicted to the creamy smooth 8 core performance and will drop serious bucks on Threadripper next year, me among them. This is reality, you can fool yourself, but who the fuck cares?
I can remember the shared family tv, its the one in the living room, where the family still watch tv together at times.
For some it's still not completely gone, but nearly. Lifestyle changes, everybody has their own schedule, technology changed, network TV is fading fast. The living room itself is fading out as real estate continues to outpace wages. Today the biggest screen in the house (for those fortunate enough to have one) is in the family room, not the living room, and most probably spends more time running console games than network TV. Couples watch TV together, sometimes, maybe. Everybody else splits up and does their own thing.
Intel is extracting higher speeds from their designs.
Marginally, and not for all single core loads. And never forget that standard operating practice for Intel is to place their thumb on the benchmark scales. For example, check this out. No shortage of reports like that.
Whatever slim lead Intel still has in single-core performance is widely expected to evaporate because of Intel's 10nm node fiasco, whereas AMD is already starting the 7nm production ramp for Instinct GPGPU parts. Don't just take my word for it.
In short, Intel is about to lose whatever single-core IPC lead they still have, entirely because they built their own fabs and messed up. Going fabless for the 10nm node would have been brilliant but too late for that now. Maybe next node.
Nobody said Vulkan isn't the way forward. Some day, everything will be some running on some graphics API derivative of DX12 or Vulkan, or at least designed upon the ideals they were.
Good, good. Now if it weren't for your cringy posting style...
I stand by my statement that any game engine that does not support Vulkan (or its moral equivalent) is obsolete. Sure, there are minor loopholes in that, some engines might not have performance as an issue at all for their specific niche. Or by adding Vulkan support, the engine is no longer obsolete. However, all wanking aside, the simple truth is this: ignore Vulkan only if your goal is to become a fossil on the internet.
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You need to install the card firmware, probably.
I still can't get Linux to install and run with accelerated graphics on my Radeon card.
This post is a bit less than credible given that it does mention any specific Radeon model. My experience with Radeon cards is much different: every one I have (more than four) works flawlessly, especially with the open source drivers. You do need to install the card firmware package, without that they kinda work as VGA only, but no acceleration, low resolution, sucks. But works well enough to boot to KDE and figure out the bit about the firmware in comfort.
And for the Linux desktop. I got Rise of the Tomb Raider, native Linux port, a couple days ago for $17.
Why does nobody know about this?
Unity engine + game editor for Linux
Really slick 2D/3D game editor, nice and stable, great tutorials as far as they go (not very far), great demo projects, free asset packs, fair licensing. Not bad at all for $0.00. Current version is in the last blog entry. For some reason, not linked from their ports page, why? This one is really buried deep in the internet, but it's awesome.
Living room - adjoins kitchen and/or dining room, usually on upper floor of a two floor home, formal furniture, where guests are entertained. Family room (or rec room) - opposite end of house from living room/dining room/kitchen, lower floor of a two floor home, informal furniture, where the kids play. Suburban life.
Is your neck smoking? I can feel the heat from here.
SMH at how you declaring victory for yourself (repeatedly) is supposed to mean something. But I will grant you this, you would win a stupid contest.
Right. It's been like that in Europe since forever, America is just catching up.
The fact that an 8700K beats a 2700X in any workload utilizing less than 7 threads [not true], by rather significant margins [not true], and the fact that most games use 1-2 is all you need to know
But you just told me that CPU doesn't matter for games now, because they are GPU-bound. Make up your mind.
The market doesn't reflect it- at all
Says you, the self appointed arbiter of all that is true and comforting on the internet regardless of evidence to the contrary.
But in spite of your blather, the market does reflect it.
You're old now and out of touch with post millennial reality. That livingroom/diningroom/familyroom/yard with lawn and a dog thing belongs to baby boomers.
Honest question, do you always reply point by point to every post on the internet? Little secret here: I didn't read your post. I got bored. Hope you enjoyed writing it.
If you're playing a game with settings that binds its performance to the GPU performance, you're not testing the CPU.
So, exactly what any serious gamer does, I get it. That's exactly why gamers now value extra cores over per-core performance. So they can stream. You seem a bit out of touch.
You want the best high end desktop build? Go AMD.
Nope. Blah blah blah blah swear swear fume spit dribble blah blah blah.
AMD’s 2000-series Ryzen chips came on strong in 2018, with the Ryzen 7 2700X knocking Intel’s similarly priced Core i7s to alternate pick territory
Now swear some more :)
Should an additional 30% of the market decide to go AMD, Glofo would be physically unable to meet the demand, dunce. They don't have that problem at the moment, only because of inertia, as I said. Dunce.
AMD did have this problem with 32 core Epycs, sending the price above $3K. Why am I not surprised that you don't know this.
AMD has owned the value-hunter market for a while.
You're wrong about that too, this is a recent phenomenon. Two years ago i5 was kicking AMD's tail in the value market too.
Today AMD unquestionably offers better value in both low end and high end. You want the best low end desktop build? Go AMD. You want the best high end desktop build? Go AMD. You want the best low end server build? Go AMD. You want the best high end server build? Go AMD. It's simple.
Only inertia and AMD's production capacity keeps the market from flipping completely on its head.
No. That's a tapped out GPU benchmark. But you knew that, didn't you?
Your fevered imagination tells you that people run high end games on the CPU. I get it. The fevered part that is.
Wow, you are a prize. I admit it, you were right on every point, your logic is flawless. You are a genius. Nobody buys AMD, nobody has AMD and it will be even more so next month. You can die now.
Now planning my Threadripper 2 build like many others, but don't worry your pretty head about that.
And this:
One market perception issue AMD had with first generation Ryzen was that lower resolution or older DX9 games didn’t perform as well competitively. I'll admit, I was even a bit surprised at launch. This go around, AMD worked very hard to improve performance with older DX9 games and games at lower resolutions like 1080P. This is an area where gamers will see tremendous, double-digit improvements of 2nd gen Ryzen versus 1st Gen Ryzen, significantly cutting most of the lead Intel had here. Gamers can thank Ryzen’s increased clocks and lower latency for this improvement. Net-net, at 1080P and 1440P, I’m not expecting to see many experiential differences between AMD and Intel.
See, 2700X is roughly even across the board with i7-8700K for games, and demolishes it in multicore, for $53 bucks cheaper. If you think that AMD desktop/gaming market share isn't still increasing right now then you have brain damage. And it gets worse from here, i7 doesn't even have multithreading next product cycle, you have to pay i9 prices to get that. Just brilliant.
Then the 7nm parts arrive.
Here, let's try to save you from further embarrassing yourself.
Specification wise (cores and clocks) the two processors are pretty closely matched. So, for 13% less money, you can get a processor that delivers more than 200% the performance, this seems like the mother of a no-brainer.
It's that more processor for less money thing. Everybody gets it but you (well you are just a troll, we both know that)
The people who have been waiting for a competitive AMD part grabbed one. After that, the market for AMD parts amongst the gamers was saturated.
You do live in your own fantasy land. One month of retrace and you flip out about it. Earth to you: see the big fat 45% share from this German retailer? That's several times what it was 2 years go. (US figures are near impossible to find, but if similar then Intel is shitting bricks).
The Ryzen refresh just landed and guess what? Higher performance for less money. Tell me who wouldn't want a kickass 2700X for cheap, come on, don't lie. Now AMD has turned around its fortunes in servers too, the first gen Epyc was a hit, they couldn't make enough of them. Second gen is here, it's a huge success, multiple brand name vendors will ship it. New Laptops designs are coming out now on the strength AMD's APUs. Even Intel will ship AMD GPUs now. Talk about endorsement.
AMD's 7nm parts are ramping up, we will see 7nm Ryzens and Threadrippers in 1H19 while Intel is still stuck rebuilding its failed 10nm fabs. Many folks who went Ryzen this year got addicted to the creamy smooth 8 core performance and will drop serious bucks on Threadripper next year, me among them. This is reality, you can fool yourself, but who the fuck cares?
Yah, Intel screwed up, AMD didn't. It happens.
I can remember the shared family tv, its the one in the living room, where the family still watch tv together at times.
For some it's still not completely gone, but nearly. Lifestyle changes, everybody has their own schedule, technology changed, network TV is fading fast. The living room itself is fading out as real estate continues to outpace wages. Today the biggest screen in the house (for those fortunate enough to have one) is in the family room, not the living room, and most probably spends more time running console games than network TV. Couples watch TV together, sometimes, maybe. Everybody else splits up and does their own thing.
Remembered the shared family TV? I barely can.
Intel is extracting higher speeds from their designs.
Marginally, and not for all single core loads. And never forget that standard operating practice for Intel is to place their thumb on the benchmark scales. For example, check this out. No shortage of reports like that.
Whatever slim lead Intel still has in single-core performance is widely expected to evaporate because of Intel's 10nm node fiasco, whereas AMD is already starting the 7nm production ramp for Instinct GPGPU parts. Don't just take my word for it.
In short, Intel is about to lose whatever single-core IPC lead they still have, entirely because they built their own fabs and messed up. Going fabless for the 10nm node would have been brilliant but too late for that now. Maybe next node.
Nobody said Vulkan isn't the way forward. Some day, everything will be some running on some graphics API derivative of DX12 or Vulkan, or at least designed upon the ideals they were.
Good, good. Now if it weren't for your cringy posting style...
I stand by my statement that any game engine that does not support Vulkan (or its moral equivalent) is obsolete. Sure, there are minor loopholes in that, some engines might not have performance as an issue at all for their specific niche. Or by adding Vulkan support, the engine is no longer obsolete. However, all wanking aside, the simple truth is this: ignore Vulkan only if your goal is to become a fossil on the internet.