Hey thanks! I was one of their "firstline techs" for networking and then I became the help desk for those firstline techs. gaudior is entirely correct, since 3k per unit makes this a high profile product HP will go out of its way to assure satisfaction(assuming that Carly hasn't changed to much policy since the Lew Platt days). We used to get calls from Mr. Platt's office asking us to fix problems for upset customers that had been routed to his office and half the time the problem was a network issue that had nothing to do with an HP product but we were still asked to fix it, now THAT'S customer satisfaction! S.
Actually the "Arms dealers" are/were feeding conflicts that have gone on for centuries. The problem with Southern/central Africa is that modern technologies have allowed people from different tribes to not only multiply at a much greater pace (than before western medicine and agriculture were introduced) but has also allowed them to come into contact with each other much more often that during the pre-colonial period. Combine that with the introduction of proselytizing (sp?) religions like Christianity and Islam and you have a big pot just waiting to boil over.
S.
Sorry, forgot one thing, in the olde NT days NT was 32bit, MIPS, Alpha and Some PPC were getting to be 64bit. Microsoft more than likely discontinued support for 32 bit windows on 64bit os's because the translations and "thunking" layers were a bitch and made for slower performance. Win2k is 32 bit and so again no support. Whistler is available in 32 and 64 (datacenter) bit versions, so MS may be thinking "SGI has not gone away, and parts of the Alpha architecture may work its way into Intel products since Compaq transferred the technology to Intel" and is trying to pick up a little market share in the SGI market. Also don't be surprised if you see a Windows XP for G4 as a special product. S.
Yeah, I had heard that all "non-intel" architectures has been killed too, but the reference was in some recentliterature that MS sent me (I am registered with MS as a developer/engineer so I get an extra helping of propaganda) Also I made a mistake in my post, it should have said "whistler and possibly win2k" and not the other way, I'll see if I can dig up the info. S.
Ahhh Young Grasshopper, you made a slight blunder in point 5. The SGI Zx10 series come pre-loaded with win2k or winNT and the 230, 330 and 550 series come with Linux or winNT and could probably run win2k. The MIPS (Octane) systems don't "do" win2k or Linux (at least, not Linux from the factory) because they run IRIX, but there are rumors that win2k and possibly Whistler will support MIPS in the future. S.
P.S. I was going to try to work this into the whole "Land war in asia, but only slightly less well know is this...." "Princess Bride" format but I couldn't remember the lines well enough not to slaughter the quote so I gave it up.
Some dumbass here (unspecified major computer company) decided that the seti@home setup for linux would work great on our x-terms and installed it on a buttload of them, it worked great, until the Unix admins here found out what was taking up all those cpu cycles on our mainframes............
I just bought a WD 30 gb hard disk last week and after I put it in my computer I noticed my inet access was slow, when I checked the task manager I saw that the G*Ddamn "Data lifeguard" program was being loaded onto my system via the internet. I haven't even formatted the drive yet and windows (98se) hasn't assigned it drive letters. I did boot off of the floppy that came with it and ran the utility to make sure that the disk was in ata100 mode, but I didn't save any changes. I am assuming that somthing in the disks boot sector initiated the download but I found it quite disturbing and though that i would mention it since best buy is selling these for $99 and a lot of you might have bought them, S.
Read the article, it says "25,000" units of star office on "10,000 UNIX stations" and implies that the othe 15k copies will be for Other OSs primarily windows. I would be willing to bet that the lion's share of DOD unix is Solaris since they have "extensive support contacts with Sun". You need to remember that Unix does not automatically equal Linux, S.
Okay, to quote a Bill Murray classic "Well I have been pushed..........."
Everyone is entitled to their opinion as well as being entitled to being mindless drones. Now everyone here might think that i am talking about the redmond crew, but I am talking to the mindless "Linus Nazis" that like to post things like "M$ stole from Apple" "M$ stole DOS" and etc. Basically it comes to this, Having been doing computers for 25 years now I have seen a lot of shit come and go. Having seen what the computer world was like BEFORE Bill Gates showed up on the scene I believe that we all owe him a big debt of gratitude for pushing the market towards affordable stand alone computers. Some people will say "Oh bullshit" well let me tell you kids, i remember the days when SunOS cost you 15K in addition to the sparc station to run it on. If things would have continued without windows making computers acessable to "Idiots" then the demand for computers would not have driven the market towards the "faster/cheaper" end and we'd still be paying 10k for a green screen terminal and buying mainframe access time by the hour (like the old days) A lot of people that have failed as businessmen would like to blame anyone but themselves for the failure. In the computer industry Microsoft's position of dominance makes them the obvious target. But if you really look at their failures you'll see reasons other than MS, poor marketing (Apple) a couple of shit releases (Netscape), too much elitism (Sun) and etc. So next time you bitch about Intel, think about the fact that they run Windows, Unix, Beos, OS2, Dos and probably a bunch of things that I haven't seen. Next time you bitch about MS, just remember that both computers, and the software to run them were prohibitavely expensive before Bill decided to start driving the market. And next time you correct the word "Innovation" pull your head out and realize that innovation can mean just about anything that changes a way of doing things. I am a professional network engineer, my work causes me to regularly use; HPux, SunOS/Solaris, Irix, AIX, Linux, FreeBSD, MacOS 7,8,9,X , Windows 9x, NT4, win2k, winmill, Whistler (or XP), and Netware 3,4,5. ALL of these os's have both good points and bad points, none are infallable and I am happy with using any of them, but if I had to choose I would say that Netware 5 is the best server and Win98 is the best client. So to end my rant I just have to say that those who scream "Open Source" should also try to practice "Open Mind" a little more often. If Microsoft is truly abusing the market, then the market will eventually deal with them, meanwhile support who and what you like by PAYING for their products, because at the end of the day, if you can't make ends meet by developing free innovative software, you're gonna go where the money is. S.
PS.
as the Heirarchy on this thread is a little confusing, just want to make it clear that I am only slagging the person that started this subthread. (i.e No it does not)
S.
You are stupid.
The first amendment protects ANY SPEECH hate or otherwise. What you are referring to is a supreme court decision that if the language is so "hurtful as to incite violence" then it is not protected. My problem with that is that the supreme court's asinine definition would have prohibited the very Declaration of Independence itself. If you think that the founding fathers DIDN'T believe that the decalaration would start a war with England then you are prime fodder for the CO$.
S.
I don't know if things have changed but in my day (class of '85) being suspended was an unexcused absense and if you had more than 3 unexcused you were not given your grades for that semester. In other words, suspension for more than 2 days is an academic death sentence for that semester. So they not only potentially f*cked up the kids academic record, but maybe his criminal record too (if he had lived) S.
Sorry for bringing up the "all your are mine" thing, thought that it was funny.
2 thoughts about this article and the comments;
1) People complain about these people trying to "patent magnetism" but actually they are only trying to patent a chemical FORMULA for a magnetic material that they developed.
2) More than likely the magnets that they are complaining about were manufactured in China or some other country that has no problem with ripping off American ideas and trying to screw our economy. Their attitude can be summed up in Pres. Jiang Zhamin's (spelling?) recent comment that "America has a monopoly on technology...." Well, good! it shows what happens when you don't arrest the intellectuals in your country that don't agree with your politics, or "enslave" the ones that do!!!!!
S.
I'm tired of all the people "trying" to be witty (and I'm supposed to be working right now:) ) so I'll just answer the question.
30 hours a week at work (i'm an underpaid network engineer) and ~15 hours of school a week (depends on how much I decide to skip) S.
To be fair, 90% of Microsofts tech support is farmed out to third party companies like Stream International who care more about short call times (profit$) and whom I used to work for, (not MS, Jetdirect) and if anyone from Stream sees this and wants to bitch about "non-disclosure" F.O. I have been gone 2 years, ND only lasts for one.
Blasphemy!!! You'll code for WinCE in hell for that!!!!
A serious thought (on-topic) though, if people try to create clones as "Servants" and the clones "Are people too" then what stops them from telling you to F.O. and emancipating themselves?
Hello,
actually, the hole in the tip of a hollow point bullet is more for weight distribution and explosive expansion than an aerodynamic effect. In a bullet, the more weight that you can move back towards the rear (thicker) part of the bullet, the better the bullets stability, that's one reason why almost all "match grade" rifle bullets are "Spitzer boat tails". Another reason for boattails is that the reduction in the base (trailing) edge of the bullet reduces drag to some extent. There is actually a "new" (about 15 years old) style of bullet called a "ballistic tip" (T.M. Nosler) that is basically a hollowpoint bullet with a hard delrin insert in the tip that makes it have the aerodynamics of a "spitzer" type bullet (most full metal jacket rifle bullets are spitzers, for the shape think 1950's era "rocket ships")but the weight distribution of a boattail hollowpoint. Also, in response to "kotetsu", almost all military electronic weapon systems are EMP shielded, that's one of the reasons why they are so damn expensive (not to mention kickbacks and other hiddens). EMP would only seriously affect the civilian populace, an M-1a tank for example can withstand EMP from a ~250 MT nuclear blast, but obviously not the blast itself. S.
Hey man (or Girl, that's the prob with handles)
I think that you have a "3 step" plan here;
1) Find out if you have ever signed an "intellectual property" agreement with your current employer (likely) and if you did, get your hands on a copy of what you signed and find out if they have changed corporate ownership since then. This would be relavent because a lot of the IP agreeements cover development in the same field of business that the employer operates in. You could possibly make a case in point if, for example, you developed a software program while working for a hydraulics company (i.e. NOT related to software) and only later were they purchased by a corporation that deals with sofware (assuming they didn't make you sign a new agreement, MY current situation:) ).
2) take this agreement, and a written timeline of your product development work and contact an attorney. It would also be prudent to ask him outright if he/she has any dealings with the company you work for or any of its susidiaries/parents. DO NOT tell him exactly what your employer is working on unless you have contracted him legally and absolutely have to as this could be legal grounds for the company to bring a lawsuit against you (breach of confidentiality).
3) Save up a couple of months of cash because your company MAY fire or suspend you. If the company takes this stance you are going to be in a hard spot. If you signed an IP agreement and the product that you are developing is even REMOTELY related to something that you have previously developed for the company, then you will have a hard time proving that your current work is "unencumbered" of the previous work that the company has asked you to do.
"encumbrance" actually delayed the release of FreeBSD until Novell said that the code didn't have a significant portion of their "intellectual property" in it. How many of you out there know that around 4% of Novell's yearly income is from Unix royalties?
I think that the fact that you already have contracted customers for YOUR product and are nearing the final stages of development will weigh heavily in this situation and is a HUGE advantage that you have in dealings with your company. So good luck (not said with sarcasm) I have lived under IP agreements most of my working life and know what you are feeling. S.
I would like to know if the "work coil" always explodes. If it does then this effect may not be "magnetic" at all but merely compression from the work coil exploding. If so, the same effect could probably be displayed with a SMALL amount of castable/formable explosive (i.e. a round shaped charge) as long as you could detonate on at least two sides simultaneously. If the work coil doesn't explode, or if it is shown not to be an explosive compression effect, then it would be interesting to see this used on steel or aluminum bar stock and then have it dissected to see if the "grain" of the metal has aligned to any extent (i.e. it was forged). If it did, THAT would lead to some intersting manufacturing possibilities.
I read about this last night, the point isn't to make stuff that will last longer under normal use per se, the main point seems to be to make construction materials that will try to hold themselves together a little longer than normal. The example that was used was the concrete in an apartment building, if it was made with a "self-healing" material then in the case of catastrophic damage (like an earthquake) it could conceivably give people a little more time to evacuate the structure before it collapsed. The trick to me seems to be to NOT tell people about it, that way they will evacuate like they have no time instead of trying to save their tv/stereo/cd collection/box (I know, foul blasphemy to mention "the box" as less valuable than a life!!!)
I agree with ronin75 that it is DnD (the blunt/fire/edged thing gives it away) But has anyone seen "The Green Slime" ? it was one of thoe 1968ish sci-fi movies about a spacestaion that got taken over by this green slime that fed on power and became little one-eyed nasties. Starred George Takei I believe, dunno for sure, it was seen on a saturday of my (long lost) adolescence...:(
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Hey thanks! I was one of their "firstline techs" for networking and then I became the help desk for those firstline techs. gaudior is entirely correct, since 3k per unit makes this a high profile product HP will go out of its way to assure satisfaction(assuming that Carly hasn't changed to much policy since the Lew Platt days). We used to get calls from Mr. Platt's office asking us to fix problems for upset customers that had been routed to his office and half the time the problem was a network issue that had nothing to do with an HP product but we were still asked to fix it, now THAT'S customer satisfaction! S.
Actually the "Arms dealers" are/were feeding conflicts that have gone on for centuries. The problem with Southern/central Africa is that modern technologies have allowed people from different tribes to not only multiply at a much greater pace (than before western medicine and agriculture were introduced) but has also allowed them to come into contact with each other much more often that during the pre-colonial period. Combine that with the introduction of proselytizing (sp?) religions like Christianity and Islam and you have a big pot just waiting to boil over. S.
Sorry, forgot one thing, in the olde NT days NT was 32bit, MIPS, Alpha and Some PPC were getting to be 64bit. Microsoft more than likely discontinued support for 32 bit windows on 64bit os's because the translations and "thunking" layers were a bitch and made for slower performance. Win2k is 32 bit and so again no support. Whistler is available in 32 and 64 (datacenter) bit versions, so MS may be thinking "SGI has not gone away, and parts of the Alpha architecture may work its way into Intel products since Compaq transferred the technology to Intel" and is trying to pick up a little market share in the SGI market. Also don't be surprised if you see a Windows XP for G4 as a special product. S.
Yeah, I had heard that all "non-intel" architectures has been killed too, but the reference was in some recentliterature that MS sent me (I am registered with MS as a developer /engineer so I get an extra helping of propaganda) Also I made a mistake in my post, it should have said "whistler and possibly win2k" and not the other way, I'll see if I can dig up the info. S.
Ahhh Young Grasshopper, you made a slight blunder in point 5. The SGI Zx10 series come pre-loaded with win2k or winNT and the 230, 330 and 550 series come with Linux or winNT and could probably run win2k. The MIPS (Octane) systems don't "do" win2k or Linux (at least, not Linux from the factory) because they run IRIX, but there are rumors that win2k and possibly Whistler will support MIPS in the future. S. P.S. I was going to try to work this into the whole "Land war in asia, but only slightly less well know is this...." "Princess Bride" format but I couldn't remember the lines well enough not to slaughter the quote so I gave it up.
Some dumbass here (unspecified major computer company) decided that the seti@home setup for linux would work great on our x-terms and installed it on a buttload of them, it worked great, until the Unix admins here found out what was taking up all those cpu cycles on our mainframes............
I just bought a WD 30 gb hard disk last week and after I put it in my computer I noticed my inet access was slow, when I checked the task manager I saw that the G*Ddamn "Data lifeguard" program was being loaded onto my system via the internet. I haven't even formatted the drive yet and windows (98se) hasn't assigned it drive letters. I did boot off of the floppy that came with it and ran the utility to make sure that the disk was in ata100 mode, but I didn't save any changes. I am assuming that somthing in the disks boot sector initiated the download but I found it quite disturbing and though that i would mention it since best buy is selling these for $99 and a lot of you might have bought them, S.
Read the article, it says "25,000" units of star office on "10,000 UNIX stations" and implies that the othe 15k copies will be for Other OSs primarily windows. I would be willing to bet that the lion's share of DOD unix is Solaris since they have "extensive support contacts with Sun". You need to remember that Unix does not automatically equal Linux, S.
Okay, to quote a Bill Murray classic "Well I have been pushed..........." Everyone is entitled to their opinion as well as being entitled to being mindless drones. Now everyone here might think that i am talking about the redmond crew, but I am talking to the mindless "Linus Nazis" that like to post things like "M$ stole from Apple" "M$ stole DOS" and etc. Basically it comes to this, Having been doing computers for 25 years now I have seen a lot of shit come and go. Having seen what the computer world was like BEFORE Bill Gates showed up on the scene I believe that we all owe him a big debt of gratitude for pushing the market towards affordable stand alone computers. Some people will say "Oh bullshit" well let me tell you kids, i remember the days when SunOS cost you 15K in addition to the sparc station to run it on. If things would have continued without windows making computers acessable to "Idiots" then the demand for computers would not have driven the market towards the "faster/cheaper" end and we'd still be paying 10k for a green screen terminal and buying mainframe access time by the hour (like the old days) A lot of people that have failed as businessmen would like to blame anyone but themselves for the failure. In the computer industry Microsoft's position of dominance makes them the obvious target. But if you really look at their failures you'll see reasons other than MS, poor marketing (Apple) a couple of shit releases (Netscape), too much elitism (Sun) and etc. So next time you bitch about Intel, think about the fact that they run Windows, Unix, Beos, OS2, Dos and probably a bunch of things that I haven't seen. Next time you bitch about MS, just remember that both computers, and the software to run them were prohibitavely expensive before Bill decided to start driving the market. And next time you correct the word "Innovation" pull your head out and realize that innovation can mean just about anything that changes a way of doing things. I am a professional network engineer, my work causes me to regularly use; HPux, SunOS/Solaris, Irix, AIX, Linux, FreeBSD, MacOS 7,8,9,X , Windows 9x, NT4, win2k, winmill, Whistler (or XP), and Netware 3,4,5. ALL of these os's have both good points and bad points, none are infallable and I am happy with using any of them, but if I had to choose I would say that Netware 5 is the best server and Win98 is the best client. So to end my rant I just have to say that those who scream "Open Source" should also try to practice "Open Mind" a little more often. If Microsoft is truly abusing the market, then the market will eventually deal with them, meanwhile support who and what you like by PAYING for their products, because at the end of the day, if you can't make ends meet by developing free innovative software, you're gonna go where the money is. S.
PS. as the Heirarchy on this thread is a little confusing, just want to make it clear that I am only slagging the person that started this subthread. (i.e No it does not) S.
You are stupid. The first amendment protects ANY SPEECH hate or otherwise. What you are referring to is a supreme court decision that if the language is so "hurtful as to incite violence" then it is not protected. My problem with that is that the supreme court's asinine definition would have prohibited the very Declaration of Independence itself. If you think that the founding fathers DIDN'T believe that the decalaration would start a war with England then you are prime fodder for the CO$. S.
I don't know if things have changed but in my day (class of '85) being suspended was an unexcused absense and if you had more than 3 unexcused you were not given your grades for that semester. In other words, suspension for more than 2 days is an academic death sentence for that semester. So they not only potentially f*cked up the kids academic record, but maybe his criminal record too (if he had lived) S.
Sorry for bringing up the "all your are mine" thing, thought that it was funny. 2 thoughts about this article and the comments; 1) People complain about these people trying to "patent magnetism" but actually they are only trying to patent a chemical FORMULA for a magnetic material that they developed. 2) More than likely the magnets that they are complaining about were manufactured in China or some other country that has no problem with ripping off American ideas and trying to screw our economy. Their attitude can be summed up in Pres. Jiang Zhamin's (spelling?) recent comment that "America has a monopoly on technology...." Well, good! it shows what happens when you don't arrest the intellectuals in your country that don't agree with your politics, or "enslave" the ones that do!!!!! S.
I'm tired of all the people "trying" to be witty (and I'm supposed to be working right now :) ) so I'll just answer the question.
30 hours a week at work (i'm an underpaid network engineer) and ~15 hours of school a week (depends on how much I decide to skip) S.
To be fair, 90% of Microsofts tech support is farmed out to third party companies like Stream International who care more about short call times (profit$) and whom I used to work for, (not MS, Jetdirect) and if anyone from Stream sees this and wants to bitch about "non-disclosure" F.O. I have been gone 2 years, ND only lasts for one.
and Bill G was coding for Apple before there was a Macintosh............
Blasphemy!!! You'll code for WinCE in hell for that!!!! A serious thought (on-topic) though, if people try to create clones as "Servants" and the clones "Are people too" then what stops them from telling you to F.O. and emancipating themselves?
AHHHHHH! The joys of "Cybersex"!
Actually, I believe that Queen Elizabeth owns "Britannia" and the royal family's "I.P." rights pre-date ultima............
Oh Yeah? What if I've met you and know 2 other smart types! ;)
Hello, actually, the hole in the tip of a hollow point bullet is more for weight distribution and explosive expansion than an aerodynamic effect. In a bullet, the more weight that you can move back towards the rear (thicker) part of the bullet, the better the bullets stability, that's one reason why almost all "match grade" rifle bullets are "Spitzer boat tails". Another reason for boattails is that the reduction in the base (trailing) edge of the bullet reduces drag to some extent. There is actually a "new" (about 15 years old) style of bullet called a "ballistic tip" (T.M. Nosler) that is basically a hollowpoint bullet with a hard delrin insert in the tip that makes it have the aerodynamics of a "spitzer" type bullet (most full metal jacket rifle bullets are spitzers, for the shape think 1950's era "rocket ships")but the weight distribution of a boattail hollowpoint. Also, in response to "kotetsu", almost all military electronic weapon systems are EMP shielded, that's one of the reasons why they are so damn expensive (not to mention kickbacks and other hiddens). EMP would only seriously affect the civilian populace, an M-1a tank for example can withstand EMP from a ~250 MT nuclear blast, but obviously not the blast itself. S.
Hey man (or Girl, that's the prob with handles) I think that you have a "3 step" plan here; 1) Find out if you have ever signed an "intellectual property" agreement with your current employer (likely) and if you did, get your hands on a copy of what you signed and find out if they have changed corporate ownership since then. This would be relavent because a lot of the IP agreeements cover development in the same field of business that the employer operates in. You could possibly make a case in point if, for example, you developed a software program while working for a hydraulics company (i.e. NOT related to software) and only later were they purchased by a corporation that deals with sofware (assuming they didn't make you sign a new agreement, MY current situation :) ).
2) take this agreement, and a written timeline of your product development work and contact an attorney. It would also be prudent to ask him outright if he/she has any dealings with the company you work for or any of its susidiaries/parents. DO NOT tell him exactly what your employer is working on unless you have contracted him legally and absolutely have to as this could be legal grounds for the company to bring a lawsuit against you (breach of confidentiality).
3) Save up a couple of months of cash because your company MAY fire or suspend you. If the company takes this stance you are going to be in a hard spot. If you signed an IP agreement and the product that you are developing is even REMOTELY related to something that you have previously developed for the company, then you will have a hard time proving that your current work is "unencumbered" of the previous work that the company has asked you to do.
"encumbrance" actually delayed the release of FreeBSD until Novell said that the code didn't have a significant portion of their "intellectual property" in it. How many of you out there know that around 4% of Novell's yearly income is from Unix royalties?
I think that the fact that you already have contracted customers for YOUR product and are nearing the final stages of development will weigh heavily in this situation and is a HUGE advantage that you have in dealings with your company. So good luck (not said with sarcasm) I have lived under IP agreements most of my working life and know what you are feeling. S.
I would like to know if the "work coil" always explodes. If it does then this effect may not be "magnetic" at all but merely compression from the work coil exploding. If so, the same effect could probably be displayed with a SMALL amount of castable/formable explosive (i.e. a round shaped charge) as long as you could detonate on at least two sides simultaneously. If the work coil doesn't explode, or if it is shown not to be an explosive compression effect, then it would be interesting to see this used on steel or aluminum bar stock and then have it dissected to see if the "grain" of the metal has aligned to any extent (i.e. it was forged). If it did, THAT would lead to some intersting manufacturing possibilities.
I read about this last night, the point isn't to make stuff that will last longer under normal use per se, the main point seems to be to make construction materials that will try to hold themselves together a little longer than normal. The example that was used was the concrete in an apartment building, if it was made with a "self-healing" material then in the case of catastrophic damage (like an earthquake) it could conceivably give people a little more time to evacuate the structure before it collapsed. The trick to me seems to be to NOT tell people about it, that way they will evacuate like they have no time instead of trying to save their tv/stereo/cd collection/box (I know, foul blasphemy to mention "the box" as less valuable than a life!!!)
I agree with ronin75 that it is DnD (the blunt/fire/edged thing gives it away) But has anyone seen "The Green Slime" ? it was one of thoe 1968ish sci-fi movies about a spacestaion that got taken over by this green slime that fed on power and became little one-eyed nasties. Starred George Takei I believe, dunno for sure, it was seen on a saturday of my (long lost) adolescence...:(