For me, software of consequence is things like NetHack, GNU Emacs, vim, Mozilla, CMUCL, gcc, etc. Last I looked, Microsoft does not have anything to do with these. Then again, I am not an average consumer
I am sure what you say is true for a sizable minority, but not for the rest of us. My arguement has always been based around the average business buyer. They (including myself) are who decides what OS is on the desktops and servers of business. We use Photoshop, Quark, Illustrator, Office, Peachtree, Quicken, and tons of similar packages that run mainly on Windows. We need these programs to keep the business running, and to keep the money coming in, which keeps the jobs available. And frankly, some of the replacement programs are NOT as good.
Lots of people will argue that Linux has replacements for all of these. GIMP, for example, is a great program, but its not photoshop yet, at least for what I do. I agree that there are good replacements for most, and adequate replacements for most of the rest but thats not the point. We already HAVE windows because we have been using it for a decade. To change WILL cost money in training, programming, etc. We are creatures of habit, and if its not broke, we don't want to fix it. Most business owners don't CARE about the philosophical aspects of OSS vs. proprietary software. Its not being 'greedy' or bad, its just running a business takes all your time, and an owners goal is to get the job done efficiently.
I know this is hard for lots of/.ers to understand unless they are business owners. Its not a matter of intellegence, its perspective. I have the unusual position of being both a business owner and an employee of another company, so I have to see it from both points of view daily. Me, I am working very hard to migrate everything over to Linux as soon as possible at the job, but here is the rub:
** The employees are resistant to change simply because it is change.
** The employees have Windows at home and don't WANT to learn a new system.
** The employees complain, constantly ask questions (eating up time).
** The employees will develop a bad attitude about Linux because it doesn't do what their crappy home systems do. (actually, it just does it different, but they don't understand that)
** The employees may be snivling, uneducated, unenlightened, lazy, complacent and unappreciative, but they are the most important resource ANY company has, since they are who makes the company MONEY.
You can't just say "lump it". You screw up their attitudes and productivity, you screw yourself. Its just business. If a small business saves $150,000 a year in licensing, but loses $500,000 in productivity, this is not a good trade-off. This is why its hard to change from ANY current OS to ANY other OS.
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For the third time:
My point was simple. The email spam is causing a worse problem than the CD spam right now, in my opinion (obviously).
Crying "won't someone please think of the trees!" isn't going to impress me. Filling up landfills, thats a problem. But not as big a problem as the spam is causing in the near term, especially to the economy. Not all new growth forests are like you state. Granted, all the older ones (hense, the cover) ARE. Newer reforestation projects mix it up a bit better. I am sure you know this though.
I'm more of a 'the glass is half full' type of person. It is easy to point out all the shortcomings of our tree planting past, but I prefer to look at how much better we are NOW than just 50 years ago. My goal isn't to diminish anyone feelings about conservation, its just the doomsayers are so negative, and generally full of FUD that it gets old.
Its also ironic that MILITANT ENVIRONMENTALISTS are the same people that sell cheese sandwiches at Phish concerts and protest against liberating oppressed people. (OT but relevent anyway)
Humans are not a plague on this planet. When people make statements to this effect, they only insure their ideas will never get taken seriously, except in Oakland.
Again, some people ARE more freaked out about our environmental situation, but this doesn't mean they CARE more about it. It just means they are freaked out. And they think the worst is yet to come, while on average, rivers are cleaner, air is cleaner, and things are better than 20 or 50 years ago. Others (like myself) think we are headed in the right direction because it IS better than it was, and we are open minded to changes where it isn't (landfills, for instance).
When I said rh9 was almost as good as rh9, i clearly meant it as compliment. you are clearly trying to take what I said out of context.
Its ALMOST from the point of view of a businessman who doesn't care about the politics of OSS vs. MS. I want to get stuff done is all. Its nice if I can do it with OSS, but MY job is to make money FIRST.
I don't preach the gospel of any OS. The fact is, GAMES that come with RH9 still crash (was trying them out last night). Very simple things.
You talk about auditing code. I DONT CARE. Others do, fine, but I don't. I buy software for purely capitalistic reasons. If the employees are going to bitch about it, I wont install it.
Some of you need to realize that most of us in the business world want the best software for the $, but do not really care about puffing up our chest and ranting about one being better than the other. Nothing personal, but you might as well tell me how OpenBSD is better than FreeBSD. Same shit, just all TALK TALK TALK. We don't care. We know windows is not secure, we know all that shit, but its not the first priority, even if YOU think it should be. We are not stupid. We just don't care about your OS politics.
Not all nerds are OS snobs.
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Worse than chopping down trees? Not to mention the side-effects of the CD production and disposal process. Your priorities worry me
There are more trees in the US now than there was 200 years ago. Trees are renewable. There is no shortage of tree. I said one problem was worse than the other, not that one was not a problem.
Do you now realize how incredibly stupid you are by saying this? Take your FUD elsewhere, I have enough education not to buy your bullshit.
They're on the internet. Normal tcp/ip traffic from a number of hosts should be no hassle to them - if they don't want it, unplug.
No, attacking a network is illegal, even if they are dicks. Jesus, I can't believe the both of you don't understand that. You can't just DDOS someone you don't like and expect there to be no consequences.
Like it or not, spam IS legal right now, and doing a DDOS is illegal. Your ass would go to jail and the spammer wouldn't. Real smart. Yea, you showed him alright.
AOL is actually doing something that may result in the 'net becoming a better place? Talk about Shock and Awe! Alas, I seriously doubt it's out of the kindness of their corporate heart...more likely, it's because they're desperate to do something to improve the appearance of their customer service and corporate image.
My guess is that with 20 something million customers complaining and over a billion spam emails at your gate every day, composing 1/3 of the total email traffic, their reason is good business. Spam is raising their mail related IT expenses to be 1/3 more than they should be. It is costing them millions. If I owned AOL stock, I would want them to do this, to decrease costs, improve customer relations and lend more credibility to their own OPT in programs, thus make my stock worth more money. IMHO, AOL is conducting good business practices with this, and we are likely to see more of it.
Then again, I never thought AOL was evil. Lame, maybe. Laughable, sometimes. Self distructive, often. But not evil, naw. Big companies screw themselves without any help from us. But AOL is right on the money this time.
Its kinda like worrying about a cat being stuck in a tree. I mean, how many cat skeletons do you see stuck in trees?
Illegal is so many ways I can't count them (IANAL but I read/., which is better) And its some other not good things too.
It is an attack to deprive them of $$. Its a conspiracy because you are working in tandum with others. Its taking justice into your own hands when it isn't warranted. Its ineffectual. It affects other resources on the internet, which is why you are mad at him to start with, making it hypocritical. Since spam isn't illegal per se yet (and it should be) it is quazi/potentially denying him free speech (no, but would be argued in court that way). I could go on, but I'm tired.
I don't argue with your anger, but this would end up worse than the problem for most all concerned. We need laws and more importantly, inforcement. If we can do the inforcement without the laws, then that is good, too. Your idea may have the best of intentions, but thats not always enough.
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So they sue spammers (that's good) but spam my postal mail box with CD's and they think it's ok? I'm a little bit confused.
Gotta start somewhere. Frankly, I think spam of the email variety is a worse misuse of resources, considering the volume. AOL SHOULD send out their CD's on CDRW media, so like the old days, at least you could reuse it;)
What could be more educating then slashdot.org. Your cousins will learn how to spell and use appropriate grammar from CmdrTaco and other certified instructors. They will post the same story more then once to make sure you have learned everything you can from the article.
Any teacher will tell your repetition is the key to retention.
On a different note: Did anyone else notice that this teenager seemed to use grammer and vocabulary skills more like a 40 year old with a BA in Literature? Siblings? Correct grammer? Correct spelling? And polite as well.
This has got to stop, you're making the rest of us look bad;)
but due to DMCA laws cannot tell anyone about it, and therefore the faults will never be fixed, because the schmuckos the programmed the damn thing are too damn stuborn, and full of themselves to admit to there being faults in their code, and refuse to fix anything without proof of the faults first.
Damn good point. Your comment gathers up and bundles rather nicely the hard cold facts. And of course, once MS has made this REQUIRED to use any software of any consequence, I am sure the price of Windows will jump again.
THIS is EXACTLY why I am working very hard to learn Linux on the Desktop and hone my *nix server skills as well. It isn't a matter of 'bad old MS' to me as much as it appears that they are on the verge of imploding, and they don't realize it. Its a simple matter that I think Linux will end up overtaking MS not on merit, but by simply having less DEmerits at the same time it becomes 'as good enough as'. When the change happens, I want to be up to speed, and ready to capitalize on it. (read: make $)
Free people don't like this kinda shit, it sounds so, well, unfree (as in speech). As the computer gets cheaper, windows gets more expensive, Linux gets better (RH9 is about as good as win95 to me, which is a compliment) it WILL put pressure on windows. Unlike others, I do NOT think that Linux will gain a percent of market share here and there. I think that it will happen in a very short period, BANG, and over 2 years, half of everyone is no longer using MS. History shows this is the most common method for change.
This is why I am not a MS basher (Really, I use Windows). I don't have to be, they are becoming their own worst enemy, and beginning in 2 or 3 years, they are going to be very shocked in a very short period of time.
In short - The Postal Service is not the Internet. It is one orginization that can and will respond to this type of abuse, and the end result will be less service / increased cost.
You have to be kidding. Most catalogs by request are sent FIRST CLASS because most companies don't send enough mail every day or week to get bulk. Yes, Sears does, but for every Sears that sends a catalog there are 50 "Bob's Hottubs" that have catalogs by request that do not send enough regularly enough to get a discount. If you are not sending out at least 1000 pieces in one whack. Also, I tend to think the final delivery of 1200 pieces of mail to one address takes less resources than 1200 pieces of mail to 1200 addresses, even if the journey to that station is the same.
So the post office has been compensated for their efforts. To think 'poor post office' is pretty damn silly. Unless there is some kind of fraud or other crime involved, the USPS doesn't have an interest in this. Frankly, I don't see the crime and neither does the victim, since he is trying to sue, NOT seek criminal charges.
They didn't call this spam counterattack "bad" although it is certainly illegal. But it is an attack, and these guys are security geeks, so it's their job to investigate and propose countermeasures to things like this.
Out of curiosity, exactly what criminal law does this violate?
What would you do if you knoew that you couldn't be killed, but that you could still feel pain?
Ever see Unbreakable? Yea, me either, I heard it sucked, but that is kind of what it was about. Guy doesn't realize he can't die or really get hurt until he is 40. Bruce Willis I think.
Hopefully you're intelligent enough to take this as a helpful hand and not an insult.
With all the speling and grammor lessons what I get here, you would have think somone would acredit/. so I coold get some collage credits for all these time I spend reeding/. and learning so much. I just wunt to let you no that I aprecaite you anonemous cowards corecting all the speling and uther mistakes her.
IANAN. So if I muddle a detail, forgive me, but from my limited understanding, it works like this:
Your body converts the food you eat into glucose, which the cells can use. Carbs convert to glucose (fuel) very easily. Fat converts to glucose harder, so your body doesn't want to convert fat into glucose unless there is no carbs available. When you eat carbs, they are available for conversion for around 48 hours (it takes 48 hours to rid your body of carbs after you quit eating them).
When your body is converting stored fat into glucose (instead of carbs into glucose) this is called ketosis. This is a desirable thing and should NOT be confused with ketoacidosis, an undesirable and unrelated thing that just sounds similar. If the amount of fat to be converted into glucose > the available free fat from food ingested, then the body uses fat stores (love handles) instead. Keep in mind, it BURNS calories to convert carbs into glucose (it is a metabolic process, after all) but it requires MANY more calories to convert fat to glucose (one reason why your body will convert the available carbs first, conservation). If there are no carbs AND no fats, then the body will convert protein into glucose. This is not a good thing, this is technically starvation. But the body attempts to convert in that order: carbs, fats, protein.
Now, as to muscle, you have to have protein to build muscle, as well as force(such as lifting weights). That is one of the best parts of Atkins. You will eat 2 to 3 times more protein than a typical diet, and its the highest quality protein. People who are serious body builders take protein shakes/tabs/suppliments in order to have more available protein for building muscles. Regular people who are just very active can build muscles fast with Atkins because the total amount of available protein in your body is quite high. I firmed up fast. Not bulking, just firmed up what I have.
You can't build muscle without protein, and Atkins offers more nature protein (animals) than any other balanced approach that I am aware of. The key to Atkins working IS the restrictions of carbs. If you eat meat like Atkins allows, but you DONT kill all sugars and most carbs, you WILL hurt yourself. Your cholesterol will go sky high, you will gain weight. Its the combination of empty sugars/carbs and animal fats that causes the problems. To me, giving up empty carbs like flour and sugar was the logical choice, and its not that hard.
Your raise a really good point. Also consider most major companies have cut IT staff to reduce costs, and most IT professionals have tolorated it because there are less jobs, meaning fewer people doing more work (and more burnout). I can easily see the lists not getting updated because "if it aint broke, dont fix it" mentality. Many ITs simply have plenty of other stuff to do, and if their company isn't hitting anything on 69/8 or vise versa, then it wont get fixed.
Good upkeep? Maybe not. Best some can do under the circumstances? Probably. I have enough hell just keeping up with the relatively small amount of shit I have to keep up with, so I can sympathise.
Kind of weird to mod this troll, since it raises an important question. Incorrectly put however.
The point that often gets lots is the huge difference in Windows and Linux distributions.
Linux distributions come with TONS more software than any Windows distribution. With Windows, you buy the software you want. With Linux, the 3 CD set comes with over 4 gigs of installed programs, including the OS, compared with 1.5 gigs for Windows. That is part of the reason you get more security holes, because there is more software.
The average Linux distro comes with two different office suites (Open Office, big one, and a smaller KDE office suite) several different email clients (mutt, pine, netscape, mozilla) and much more redundency than windows. With windows, you get one browser. One email client. One of everything.
Another difference is the shear volume of BETA software that ships with Linux. Lots of very useful programs do not have the bugs worked out yet. The goal (for better or worse) of most distros is to offer you the largest variety of software. This is just a different model than MS.
The fact is, most people do not install but maybe 1/3 of the software in a Linux distro, and MUCH less if its on a server. The vast majority of security reports do not apply to most people. I get emails from RedHat all the time about errata. Most of the time, it applies to one or two servers is all, or just the workstations.
Since I pay for RedHat($60 a year subscription), they email me as soon as a bug is found/fixed, and its posted on their website for everyone to see, so having a clearing house area here would be redundant. Microsoft could learn from this email model. It insures I know about a potential root exploit QUICK, even if i dont have time to/. or visit their site, since I always check my email. I think MS's prior reluctance to admit flaws just hasn't faded away enough for them to consider email notification yet. Eventually, they probably will, since it is the most efficient way to protect your customers: email with a link to the fix.
Yeah, I wish we had some sort of global communication network where you could instantly and anonymously post a piece of information, and people anywhere in the world could see it. Wouldn't that totally rock?
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For me, software of consequence is things like NetHack, GNU Emacs, vim, Mozilla, CMUCL, gcc, etc. Last I looked, Microsoft does not have anything to do with these. Then again, I am not an average consumer
/.ers to understand unless they are business owners. Its not a matter of intellegence, its perspective. I have the unusual position of being both a business owner and an employee of another company, so I have to see it from both points of view daily. Me, I am working very hard to migrate everything over to Linux as soon as possible at the job, but here is the rub:
I am sure what you say is true for a sizable minority, but not for the rest of us. My arguement has always been based around the average business buyer. They (including myself) are who decides what OS is on the desktops and servers of business. We use Photoshop, Quark, Illustrator, Office, Peachtree, Quicken, and tons of similar packages that run mainly on Windows. We need these programs to keep the business running, and to keep the money coming in, which keeps the jobs available. And frankly, some of the replacement programs are NOT as good.
Lots of people will argue that Linux has replacements for all of these. GIMP, for example, is a great program, but its not photoshop yet, at least for what I do. I agree that there are good replacements for most, and adequate replacements for most of the rest but thats not the point. We already HAVE windows because we have been using it for a decade. To change WILL cost money in training, programming, etc. We are creatures of habit, and if its not broke, we don't want to fix it. Most business owners don't CARE about the philosophical aspects of OSS vs. proprietary software. Its not being 'greedy' or bad, its just running a business takes all your time, and an owners goal is to get the job done efficiently.
I know this is hard for lots of
** The employees are resistant to change simply because it is change.
** The employees have Windows at home and don't WANT to learn a new system.
** The employees complain, constantly ask questions (eating up time).
** The employees will develop a bad attitude about Linux because it doesn't do what their crappy home systems do. (actually, it just does it different, but they don't understand that)
** The employees may be snivling, uneducated, unenlightened, lazy, complacent and unappreciative, but they are the most important resource ANY company has, since they are who makes the company MONEY.
You can't just say "lump it". You screw up their attitudes and productivity, you screw yourself. Its just business. If a small business saves $150,000 a year in licensing, but loses $500,000 in productivity, this is not a good trade-off. This is why its hard to change from ANY current OS to ANY other OS.
For the third time:
My point was simple. The email spam is causing a worse problem than the CD spam right now, in my opinion (obviously).
Crying "won't someone please think of the trees!" isn't going to impress me. Filling up landfills, thats a problem. But not as big a problem as the spam is causing in the near term, especially to the economy. Not all new growth forests are like you state. Granted, all the older ones (hense, the cover) ARE. Newer reforestation projects mix it up a bit better. I am sure you know this though.
I'm more of a 'the glass is half full' type of person. It is easy to point out all the shortcomings of our tree planting past, but I prefer to look at how much better we are NOW than just 50 years ago. My goal isn't to diminish anyone feelings about conservation, its just the doomsayers are so negative, and generally full of FUD that it gets old.
Its also ironic that MILITANT ENVIRONMENTALISTS are the same people that sell cheese sandwiches at Phish concerts and protest against liberating oppressed people. (OT but relevent anyway)
Humans are not a plague on this planet. When people make statements to this effect, they only insure their ideas will never get taken seriously, except in Oakland.
Again, some people ARE more freaked out about our environmental situation, but this doesn't mean they CARE more about it. It just means they are freaked out. And they think the worst is yet to come, while on average, rivers are cleaner, air is cleaner, and things are better than 20 or 50 years ago. Others (like myself) think we are headed in the right direction because it IS better than it was, and we are open minded to changes where it isn't (landfills, for instance).
blah blah blah blah blah.
When I said rh9 was almost as good as rh9, i clearly meant it as compliment. you are clearly trying to take what I said out of context.
Its ALMOST from the point of view of a businessman who doesn't care about the politics of OSS vs. MS. I want to get stuff done is all. Its nice if I can do it with OSS, but MY job is to make money FIRST.
I don't preach the gospel of any OS. The fact is, GAMES that come with RH9 still crash (was trying them out last night). Very simple things.
You talk about auditing code. I DONT CARE. Others do, fine, but I don't. I buy software for purely capitalistic reasons. If the employees are going to bitch about it, I wont install it.
Some of you need to realize that most of us in the business world want the best software for the $, but do not really care about puffing up our chest and ranting about one being better than the other. Nothing personal, but you might as well tell me how OpenBSD is better than FreeBSD. Same shit, just all TALK TALK TALK. We don't care. We know windows is not secure, we know all that shit, but its not the first priority, even if YOU think it should be. We are not stupid. We just don't care about your OS politics.
Not all nerds are OS snobs.
Worse than chopping down trees? Not to mention the side-effects of the CD production and disposal process. Your priorities worry me
There are more trees in the US now than there was 200 years ago. Trees are renewable. There is no shortage of tree. I said one problem was worse than the other, not that one was not a problem.
Do you now realize how incredibly stupid you are by saying this? Take your FUD elsewhere, I have enough education not to buy your bullshit.
Nonsense.
They're on the internet. Normal tcp/ip traffic from a number of hosts should be no hassle to them - if they don't want it, unplug.
No, attacking a network is illegal, even if they are dicks. Jesus, I can't believe the both of you don't understand that. You can't just DDOS someone you don't like and expect there to be no consequences.
Like it or not, spam IS legal right now, and doing a DDOS is illegal. Your ass would go to jail and the spammer wouldn't. Real smart. Yea, you showed him alright.
AOL is actually doing something that may result in the 'net becoming a better place? Talk about Shock and Awe! Alas, I seriously doubt it's out of the kindness of their corporate heart...more likely, it's because they're desperate to do something to improve the appearance of their customer service and corporate image.
My guess is that with 20 something million customers complaining and over a billion spam emails at your gate every day, composing 1/3 of the total email traffic, their reason is good business. Spam is raising their mail related IT expenses to be 1/3 more than they should be. It is costing them millions. If I owned AOL stock, I would want them to do this, to decrease costs, improve customer relations and lend more credibility to their own OPT in programs, thus make my stock worth more money. IMHO, AOL is conducting good business practices with this, and we are likely to see more of it.
Then again, I never thought AOL was evil. Lame, maybe. Laughable, sometimes. Self distructive, often. But not evil, naw. Big companies screw themselves without any help from us. But AOL is right on the money this time.
Its kinda like worrying about a cat being stuck in a tree. I mean, how many cat skeletons do you see stuck in trees?
Is this illegal?
/., which is better) And its some other not good things too.
Illegal is so many ways I can't count them (IANAL but I read
It is an attack to deprive them of $$. Its a conspiracy because you are working in tandum with others. Its taking justice into your own hands when it isn't warranted. Its ineffectual. It affects other resources on the internet, which is why you are mad at him to start with, making it hypocritical. Since spam isn't illegal per se yet (and it should be) it is quazi/potentially denying him free speech (no, but would be argued in court that way). I could go on, but I'm tired.
I don't argue with your anger, but this would end up worse than the problem for most all concerned. We need laws and more importantly, inforcement. If we can do the inforcement without the laws, then that is good, too. Your idea may have the best of intentions, but thats not always enough.
So they sue spammers (that's good) but spam my postal mail box with CD's and they think it's ok? I'm a little bit confused.
;)
Gotta start somewhere. Frankly, I think spam of the email variety is a worse misuse of resources, considering the volume. AOL SHOULD send out their CD's on CDRW media, so like the old days, at least you could reuse it
What could be more educating then slashdot.org. Your cousins will learn how to spell and use appropriate grammar from CmdrTaco and other certified instructors. They will post the same story more then once to make sure you have learned everything you can from the article.
;)
Any teacher will tell your repetition is the key to retention.
On a different note: Did anyone else notice that this teenager seemed to use grammer and vocabulary skills more like a 40 year old with a BA in Literature? Siblings? Correct grammer? Correct spelling? And polite as well.
This has got to stop, you're making the rest of us look bad
but due to DMCA laws cannot tell anyone about it, and therefore the faults will never be fixed, because the schmuckos the programmed the damn thing are too damn stuborn, and full of themselves to admit to there being faults in their code, and refuse to fix anything without proof of the faults first.
Damn good point. Your comment gathers up and bundles rather nicely the hard cold facts. And of course, once MS has made this REQUIRED to use any software of any consequence, I am sure the price of Windows will jump again.
THIS is EXACTLY why I am working very hard to learn Linux on the Desktop and hone my *nix server skills as well. It isn't a matter of 'bad old MS' to me as much as it appears that they are on the verge of imploding, and they don't realize it. Its a simple matter that I think Linux will end up overtaking MS not on merit, but by simply having less DEmerits at the same time it becomes 'as good enough as'. When the change happens, I want to be up to speed, and ready to capitalize on it. (read: make $)
Free people don't like this kinda shit, it sounds so, well, unfree (as in speech). As the computer gets cheaper, windows gets more expensive, Linux gets better (RH9 is about as good as win95 to me, which is a compliment) it WILL put pressure on windows. Unlike others, I do NOT think that Linux will gain a percent of market share here and there. I think that it will happen in a very short period, BANG, and over 2 years, half of everyone is no longer using MS. History shows this is the most common method for change.
This is why I am not a MS basher (Really, I use Windows). I don't have to be, they are becoming their own worst enemy, and beginning in 2 or 3 years, they are going to be very shocked in a very short period of time.
In short - The Postal Service is not the Internet. It is one orginization that can and will respond to this type of abuse, and the end result will be less service / increased cost.
You have to be kidding. Most catalogs by request are sent FIRST CLASS because most companies don't send enough mail every day or week to get bulk. Yes, Sears does, but for every Sears that sends a catalog there are 50 "Bob's Hottubs" that have catalogs by request that do not send enough regularly enough to get a discount. If you are not sending out at least 1000 pieces in one whack. Also, I tend to think the final delivery of 1200 pieces of mail to one address takes less resources than 1200 pieces of mail to 1200 addresses, even if the journey to that station is the same.
So the post office has been compensated for their efforts. To think 'poor post office' is pretty damn silly. Unless there is some kind of fraud or other crime involved, the USPS doesn't have an interest in this. Frankly, I don't see the crime and neither does the victim, since he is trying to sue, NOT seek criminal charges.
They didn't call this spam counterattack "bad" although it is certainly illegal. But it is an attack, and these guys are security geeks, so it's their job to investigate and propose countermeasures to things like this.
Out of curiosity, exactly what criminal law does this violate?
Yeah too bad they are prepared. They are already getting millions of peices of mail today.
you talking tax returns or hate letters?
What would you do if you knoew that you couldn't be killed, but that you could still feel pain?
Ever see Unbreakable? Yea, me either, I heard it sucked, but that is kind of what it was about. Guy doesn't realize he can't die or really get hurt until he is 40. Bruce Willis I think.
Hopefully you're intelligent enough to take this as a helpful hand and not an insult.
/. so I coold get some collage credits for all these time I spend reeding /. and learning so much. I just wunt to let you no that I aprecaite you anonemous cowards corecting all the speling and uther mistakes her.
With all the speling and grammor lessons what I get here, you would have think somone would acredit
Thanks to shalshdot, I am perty educaded.
Buffer Overflows are great if they make Microsoft look bad.
:)
Buffer Overflows in Free Software is a problem that should be fixed though.
Is that you Taco?
IANAN. So if I muddle a detail, forgive me, but from my limited understanding, it works like this:
Your body converts the food you eat into glucose, which the cells can use. Carbs convert to glucose (fuel) very easily. Fat converts to glucose harder, so your body doesn't want to convert fat into glucose unless there is no carbs available. When you eat carbs, they are available for conversion for around 48 hours (it takes 48 hours to rid your body of carbs after you quit eating them).
When your body is converting stored fat into glucose (instead of carbs into glucose) this is called ketosis. This is a desirable thing and should NOT be confused with ketoacidosis, an undesirable and unrelated thing that just sounds similar. If the amount of fat to be converted into glucose > the available free fat from food ingested, then the body uses fat stores (love handles) instead. Keep in mind, it BURNS calories to convert carbs into glucose (it is a metabolic process, after all) but it requires MANY more calories to convert fat to glucose (one reason why your body will convert the available carbs first, conservation). If there are no carbs AND no fats, then the body will convert protein into glucose. This is not a good thing, this is technically starvation. But the body attempts to convert in that order: carbs, fats, protein.
Now, as to muscle, you have to have protein to build muscle, as well as force(such as lifting weights). That is one of the best parts of Atkins. You will eat 2 to 3 times more protein than a typical diet, and its the highest quality protein. People who are serious body builders take protein shakes/tabs/suppliments in order to have more available protein for building muscles. Regular people who are just very active can build muscles fast with Atkins because the total amount of available protein in your body is quite high. I firmed up fast. Not bulking, just firmed up what I have.
You can't build muscle without protein, and Atkins offers more nature protein (animals) than any other balanced approach that I am aware of. The key to Atkins working IS the restrictions of carbs. If you eat meat like Atkins allows, but you DONT kill all sugars and most carbs, you WILL hurt yourself. Your cholesterol will go sky high, you will gain weight. Its the combination of empty sugars/carbs and animal fats that causes the problems. To me, giving up empty carbs like flour and sugar was the logical choice, and its not that hard.
handy link on 0.0.0.0
Good link, thanks! Right to the point, lots of good links off it. If i had a mod point I would give it to you. Or a beer.
Your raise a really good point. Also consider most major companies have cut IT staff to reduce costs, and most IT professionals have tolorated it because there are less jobs, meaning fewer people doing more work (and more burnout). I can easily see the lists not getting updated because "if it aint broke, dont fix it" mentality. Many ITs simply have plenty of other stuff to do, and if their company isn't hitting anything on 69/8 or vise versa, then it wont get fixed.
Good upkeep? Maybe not. Best some can do under the circumstances? Probably. I have enough hell just keeping up with the relatively small amount of shit I have to keep up with, so I can sympathise.
now, speaking as someone who doesn't really know shit about this....
isn't 0.0.0.0 used locally to mean localhost's *.*.*.*? I thought linux services set to 0.0.0.0 just assumed to listen to all IP's on that machine?
Just curious about this. about to jump up a big notch on the network, and actually need to learn more than I will.
Kind of weird to mod this troll, since it raises an important question. Incorrectly put however.
/. or visit their site, since I always check my email. I think MS's prior reluctance to admit flaws just hasn't faded away enough for them to consider email notification yet. Eventually, they probably will, since it is the most efficient way to protect your customers: email with a link to the fix.
The point that often gets lots is the huge difference in Windows and Linux distributions.
Linux distributions come with TONS more software than any Windows distribution. With Windows, you buy the software you want. With Linux, the 3 CD set comes with over 4 gigs of installed programs, including the OS, compared with 1.5 gigs for Windows. That is part of the reason you get more security holes, because there is more software.
The average Linux distro comes with two different office suites (Open Office, big one, and a smaller KDE office suite) several different email clients (mutt, pine, netscape, mozilla) and much more redundency than windows. With windows, you get one browser. One email client. One of everything.
Another difference is the shear volume of BETA software that ships with Linux. Lots of very useful programs do not have the bugs worked out yet. The goal (for better or worse) of most distros is to offer you the largest variety of software. This is just a different model than MS.
The fact is, most people do not install but maybe 1/3 of the software in a Linux distro, and MUCH less if its on a server. The vast majority of security reports do not apply to most people. I get emails from RedHat all the time about errata. Most of the time, it applies to one or two servers is all, or just the workstations.
Since I pay for RedHat($60 a year subscription), they email me as soon as a bug is found/fixed, and its posted on their website for everyone to see, so having a clearing house area here would be redundant. Microsoft could learn from this email model. It insures I know about a potential root exploit QUICK, even if i dont have time to
What I find odd is now we WANT a buffer overflow, so we can BOOT linux instead bitching about sloppy ass programmers for them causing it to crash.
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Make up your damn mind
Nope, the words went from 8-bit to 32-bit. Just a 4-fold increase.
Wait a second, I thought the words were the same, and they were just using more bits to represent them.....
Just get 2600.com to link to it.
*duck*
Yeah, I wish we had some sort of global communication network where you could instantly and anonymously post a piece of information, and people anywhere in the world could see it. Wouldn't that totally rock?
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Like a BBS and FidoNet?