Actually, the pros aren't as good as you might think. In this case, they did choose the packers over the steelers, but they predicted a margin of 3 points. It eneded up being 6. They also chose a total score (both scores added together) of 45, and the real total was 56. That wasn't even close. They did predict the steelers would win (regardless of margin) and gave 1.5:1 odds.
Further, back at the start of the season, green bay was not a favorite to win at all.. i don't recall the exact odds, but they were very middle of the pack.
I said.5 bytes per hour, not.5Mb/s. I was exagerating the point that many many many people throttle their bittorrent connections down to as low as they can get away with.
Bittorrent only works because you can access hundreds of peers at the same time. In a mesh, you might have only 3 or 4 peers you can access, maybe 10 tops in most locations. I'm sure someone will jump ion about how their condo in NYC can see 100 access points, but that's not very common.
And, there will always be some people that abuse it and suck up as much bandwidth they could possibly get, which of course would incentivize people to throttle the bandwidth of their peers.
More than that, think about how a "mesh" would break down with human nature. We need only look at what happens with most torrent peers, everyone throttles their upload speed to like.5 bytes per hour. Most people connecting a mesh would say "Sounds great, but I don't want it to interfere with MY connection saturating downloading. It's only as reliable as a majority of users can be, plus most commercial grade equipment just doesn't stand up to heavy traffic use either.
I can't even begin to tell you the major cultural differences...
For example, you would never see a place like Deep Ellum anywhere in the midwest. Not even Chicago.
Texas feels the need to do everything their own way, from that bizarre frontage road culture (complete with confusing traffic signals, turn around lanes, and pretty much anything else you can think of) to the way the allow gas and oil companies to control everthing. They can put an oil or gas well right in the middle of a residential neighborhood and there's nothing you can do abou tit. They can even take your property to do it.
None of that crap would fly in ND. The only thing similar is that they both have "ranch" mentalities.
Texas thinks of itself as it's own country, and is only "american" when it's convenient for them to think so. When their governor became president, they were american. When someone else became president, they went back to wanting to secede from the union.
Don't even get me started on the difference in climates, and the way that alters the culture, or how texas is so xenophobic and concerned about illegal aliens but ND welcomes their border neighbors. A good chunk of ND's economy is based on Canadians coming across the border to go shopping, and most of their farm labor is done by mexican migrant farm workers.
Both are republican, and both are ranchers.. that's really about where the similarities end.
By your definition, Manitoba and Texas have the same culture, and they most definitely do not.
Spoken as someone that has never lived in either Dallas or Fargo (i've lived in both) Calling them even close to culturaly similar is ridiculous. I have 4 words for you "Don't mess with texas". That's a way of life in that state.
Yes, it is a requirement. When you serve xhtml with content type text/html, you're simply exploiting a bug in browsers that makes them ignore xhtml constructs that aren't legal html.
Perhaps you should reread what I said. I said it wasn't required for supporting xhtml *syntax*. This is a very important distinction that you completely ignored.
The rest of your comments show even more ignorance of the issues surrounding changing the parsing engine of a browser. I mean, if you can't even get something as simple as MathML having a syntax... there's no hope for you.
It's not like supporting xhtml content type is a requirement for supporting xhtml syntax, or mathml syntax for that matter. xhtml content type support is not trivial, because it requires an entirely different xml based parsing engine rather than an html based one.
Also, it's not like ie is the only browser to not support mathml. Konqueror doesn't, nor does KHTML which is the basis for many other browsers. Webkit nightlies support it, but this is a rather recent occurance. Gecko supports it, but again, this has only been a relatively recent occurance. (since Gecko 1.8, which is a little less than 2 years old).
By the way, regarding the "first black man", I think you meant "The first President", not the first president of congress. However, this is a myth. The myth is that John Hanson was a black man (A moor), but he was not. He was a white man.
Because the census questions violate the Bill of Rights, sections 9 and 10. The only legal question is, "How many people live at this address?" for the purpose of enumeration. Any other questions about your income, color, sex, and so on violates our 9th and 10th Amendment rights. (Rights are reserved to the People... Congress shall not exercise powers never given to it.)
The 9th and 10th ammendments? Are you serious? All those ammendments state is that rights given by the constitution shouldn't be deemed to limit other rights. The 10th ammendment makes no mention of rights, but refers to congressional powers. A "power" is, for example, the power to collect taxes, or the power to enumerate the people.
The problem with your interpretation is that it's unconstitutional. Yep, that's right. Section 8, clause 18 of the constitution says "The Congress shall have Power - To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.", which basically says that congress can specify the way, and manner of which all powers can be executed, which includes making laws that ask about pretty much anything they want that doesn't expressly violate the constitution (that is, things that are specifically denied).
You can't take any fragment of the constitution (or any law for that matter) at face value, alone in a vacuum. Everything is influenced by other laws or constitutional sections.
Oh, and the really stupid part, was that those questions you refer to.. were actually removed from the census several years before Bachman suggested boycotting the census because of them. They were moved to the American Community Survey, which is optional. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument (or chance to get your face on TV).
But that's true. Slavery was outlawed in every State north of Maryland immediately in 1776. The first president of the Congress was a black man. And down south, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison submitted numerous bills to have slavery banned in Virginia.
Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, until his death. For someone that was so against it, why did he continue to own them? The answer is that he wasn't anti-slavery, he was actually anti-black. He believed that slavery should be ended, because he wanted all blacks to be sent back to africa. While he was vocal about ending slavery from about 1778 to 1785, after 1785 he never brought it up again. Ever.
This certainly does not paint a picture of someone that "worked tirelessly" to end slavery, and he was basically one of the very few founding fathers who ever did anything about it.
Also, your history of the states "north of maryland" is creative to say the least. For instance, New York did not abolish slavery until 1785, and it had nothing to do with the founding fathers. Even then, it wasn't completely abolished, as only children of slaves born after 1785 were emancipated, leaving their parents and siblings born before 1785 to continue in slavery until they died. Even worse, slavery was not ended in New Hampshire until 1857! Although it was generally considered unacceptable to own them it was still legal until then.
I'm not sure if you're from Minnesota or not, but those of us who are have a long history with her saying stupid shit. For example, she advocated criminal action by refusing to fill out census forms and refusing to answer census takers questions. This was even more stupid (for her), since her very job depended on census results as Minnesota was close to losing a congressional district, and hers was the likely one on the chopping block. Nevermind that that taking a census is a constitutionally mandated activity... so much for her beliefs in the founding fathers intentions.
Oh, and her recent claim that the founding fathers were against slavery, and "worked tirelessly" to get rid of it were another one. Hell, she even claimed John Quincy Adams was a founding father, which would be kind of difficult since he was 9 years old when the constitution was signed, although it's possible he may have used his father as a puppet to do his bidding....
All politicians occasionally make off the cuff remarks that wrong, but this wasn't one of those times.. it was part of her rehearsed speech. She *INTENDED* to say these things that were not only flat out wrong, but so ignorant of the very thing she's claiming to represent... history and the constitution.
You don't have to be liberal to think she's a kook. I'm not. At all. You do, however, have to be fucked in the head to admire her, other than her uncanny ability to get re-elected.
You certainly can fly a plan into a building still. The door is not that secure, and is in fact designed to break free for depresurization situations. Also, many pilots still open the door during flight, I see it all the time. And many pilots have relationships with their attendants, and threatening to kill them could convince some pilots to open the door.
Finally, one can think of many scenarios that don't need entrance into the cockpit to cause lots of havok. Gassing the pilots, for instance.
Many of these situations would require someone to have infiltrated the airport and placed equipment either behind security, or on the plane itself. For instance, how many foreign nationals do you see working in the shops and restaurantes inside security? Lots. Yes, they have to go through security as well, but they get deliveries, and other means that could allow someone to sneak things in.
Basically, all that's prevented is someone who hasn't planned too well.
OpenFormula is a draft standard, and it is not yet finished. Even if it were finished, it isn't an ISO standard either, so it would not be acceptable to organizations that require ISO standards
ODF has been a standard for 5 years, ISO standard for 4. In that time, there wasn't (and still isn't) any ratified standard to describe spreadsheet formulas, thus no way to create interoperable documents using nothing but the standard.
All vendors may support the OpenOffice.org formula language, but that doesn't help someone trying to implement the standard based only on the standard document. (as the original poster claimed you could do with ODF)
If spreadsheet formulas are so trivial, why did ODF get finalized without them? And why has it taken > 6 years of work to get where OpenFormula is today when ODF itself only took 3?
Using OpenOffice.org code is missing the point so badly, one would think you were purposely being dense. The OP was talking about clean room implementation, not to mention if you're going to include OOo code in your app, why write your app at all? Just use OOo.
How can you sit there and honestly claim OpenFormula is a valid solution today?
Thanks for admitting i'm right. The person I was responding to said "make a clean-room implementation", meaning they will use *NOTHING* but the specification. plug-fests are hacks in which people use de-facto standards to try and make themselves interoperable.
All you're doing is validating my point. Plug-fests should not be required to be interoperable.
Great, and what part of that is mandated by ODF 1.1? You know, the only ratified standard version? What? You mean it's not? So someone can write an ODF compliant app without using this and using their own formula system? Yep, that's right.
I'm curious. How do you plan to create a clean-room implementation of an interoperable ODF using office suite when ODF doesn't specify things as important as how spreadsheet formulas are specified?
I was referring to things like broadband routers, firewalls, wi-fi equipment, etc.. Pretty much anthing that requires configuring an ip address, default gateway, or dhcp.
For instance, none of my netgear firewalls do ipv6, not even their "pro" equipment. I have a watchguard firewall that also has no ipv6 configuration options. How many commercial gateway products support ipv6? None that i've come across.
Really? Every piece of commecial networking equipment i've ever used has been IPv4 only. Now, they could likely be upgraded to IPv6 by firmware update, but most vendors probably wouldn't do that for existing equipment and want you to buy new equipment. In addition, 99% of applications i've seen that are IP aware are only IPv4 aware. Again, that's a big problem.
I don't see how only 1% of people will be affected.
Well, since Mr. Asange has not given his reasons for publishing private banking information of normal everyday citizens, all we can do is speculate.
However, since you seem so "surprised"... perhaps you can speculate as to the reasons why he would violate the privacy of private citizens in such a way? What purpose could it serve in Wikileaks mission? I can't think of any, as such one must have to think about other, non-mission related reasons to publish said information.
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Or maybe they gave the security company even more evidence.
Even worse, this may have been a honeypot, meant to attract more anonymous actions to gain more evidence to put them away for longer terms.
Those guys don't even think.
Actually, the pros aren't as good as you might think. In this case, they did choose the packers over the steelers, but they predicted a margin of 3 points. It eneded up being 6. They also chose a total score (both scores added together) of 45, and the real total was 56. That wasn't even close. They did predict the steelers would win (regardless of margin) and gave 1.5:1 odds.
Further, back at the start of the season, green bay was not a favorite to win at all.. i don't recall the exact odds, but they were very middle of the pack.
I said .5 bytes per hour, not .5Mb/s. I was exagerating the point that many many many people throttle their bittorrent connections down to as low as they can get away with.
Bittorrent only works because you can access hundreds of peers at the same time. In a mesh, you might have only 3 or 4 peers you can access, maybe 10 tops in most locations. I'm sure someone will jump ion about how their condo in NYC can see 100 access points, but that's not very common.
And, there will always be some people that abuse it and suck up as much bandwidth they could possibly get, which of course would incentivize people to throttle the bandwidth of their peers.
More than that, think about how a "mesh" would break down with human nature. We need only look at what happens with most torrent peers, everyone throttles their upload speed to like .5 bytes per hour. Most people connecting a mesh would say "Sounds great, but I don't want it to interfere with MY connection saturating downloading. It's only as reliable as a majority of users can be, plus most commercial grade equipment just doesn't stand up to heavy traffic use either.
I can't even begin to tell you the major cultural differences...
For example, you would never see a place like Deep Ellum anywhere in the midwest. Not even Chicago.
Texas feels the need to do everything their own way, from that bizarre frontage road culture (complete with confusing traffic signals, turn around lanes, and pretty much anything else you can think of) to the way the allow gas and oil companies to control everthing. They can put an oil or gas well right in the middle of a residential neighborhood and there's nothing you can do abou tit. They can even take your property to do it.
None of that crap would fly in ND. The only thing similar is that they both have "ranch" mentalities.
Texas thinks of itself as it's own country, and is only "american" when it's convenient for them to think so. When their governor became president, they were american. When someone else became president, they went back to wanting to secede from the union.
Don't even get me started on the difference in climates, and the way that alters the culture, or how texas is so xenophobic and concerned about illegal aliens but ND welcomes their border neighbors. A good chunk of ND's economy is based on Canadians coming across the border to go shopping, and most of their farm labor is done by mexican migrant farm workers.
Both are republican, and both are ranchers.. that's really about where the similarities end.
By your definition, Manitoba and Texas have the same culture, and they most definitely do not.
Spoken as someone that has never lived in either Dallas or Fargo (i've lived in both) Calling them even close to culturaly similar is ridiculous. I have 4 words for you "Don't mess with texas". That's a way of life in that state.
Sorry, google search gone wrong. Confused a different Gecko project release date with mozilla gecko 1.8 release date.
Mozilla Gecko 1.8 was released in 2005, so that's been about 6 years. But definitely not pre-firefox.
Not according to Mozilla.
https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Accessibility/AT-APIs/Web_Specifications
"MathML is supported in Gecko starting from Gecko 1.8.0 (Firefox 1.5)"
Yes, it is a requirement. When you serve xhtml with content type text/html, you're simply exploiting a bug in browsers that makes them ignore xhtml constructs that aren't legal html.
Perhaps you should reread what I said. I said it wasn't required for supporting xhtml *syntax*. This is a very important distinction that you completely ignored.
[...] or mathml syntax for that matter.
Mathml is not a separate syntax.
Yes, it is. Note section 2.4 of the MathML specification titled "MathML Syntax and Grammar"
The rest of your comments show even more ignorance of the issues surrounding changing the parsing engine of a browser. I mean, if you can't even get something as simple as MathML having a syntax... there's no hope for you.
It's not like supporting xhtml content type is a requirement for supporting xhtml syntax, or mathml syntax for that matter. xhtml content type support is not trivial, because it requires an entirely different xml based parsing engine rather than an html based one.
Also, it's not like ie is the only browser to not support mathml. Konqueror doesn't, nor does KHTML which is the basis for many other browsers. Webkit nightlies support it, but this is a rather recent occurance. Gecko supports it, but again, this has only been a relatively recent occurance. (since Gecko 1.8, which is a little less than 2 years old).
He means the table CSS selectors, not the table HTML tags. The table oriented CSS selectors are designed to create table-like styling.
By the way, regarding the "first black man", I think you meant "The first President", not the first president of congress. However, this is a myth. The myth is that John Hanson was a black man (A moor), but he was not. He was a white man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hanson
The confusion seems to come from Senator John Hanson, who was a black man, but lived 100 years later.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hanson_(Liberia)
The 9th and 10th ammendments? Are you serious? All those ammendments state is that rights given by the constitution shouldn't be deemed to limit other rights. The 10th ammendment makes no mention of rights, but refers to congressional powers. A "power" is, for example, the power to collect taxes, or the power to enumerate the people.
The problem with your interpretation is that it's unconstitutional. Yep, that's right. Section 8, clause 18 of the constitution says "The Congress shall have Power - To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.", which basically says that congress can specify the way, and manner of which all powers can be executed, which includes making laws that ask about pretty much anything they want that doesn't expressly violate the constitution (that is, things that are specifically denied).
You can't take any fragment of the constitution (or any law for that matter) at face value, alone in a vacuum. Everything is influenced by other laws or constitutional sections.
Oh, and the really stupid part, was that those questions you refer to.. were actually removed from the census several years before Bachman suggested boycotting the census because of them. They were moved to the American Community Survey, which is optional. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument (or chance to get your face on TV).
Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, until his death. For someone that was so against it, why did he continue to own them? The answer is that he wasn't anti-slavery, he was actually anti-black. He believed that slavery should be ended, because he wanted all blacks to be sent back to africa. While he was vocal about ending slavery from about 1778 to 1785, after 1785 he never brought it up again. Ever.
See: http://www.monticello.org/site/plantation-and-slavery/thomas-jefferson-and-slavery
This certainly does not paint a picture of someone that "worked tirelessly" to end slavery, and he was basically one of the very few founding fathers who ever did anything about it.
And the first president of the Congress was Peyton Randolph, a white plantation owner that owned slaves. Where the hell did you come up with that one? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_Continental_Congress
Also, your history of the states "north of maryland" is creative to say the least. For instance, New York did not abolish slavery until 1785, and it had nothing to do with the founding fathers. Even then, it wasn't completely abolished, as only children of slaves born after 1785 were emancipated, leaving their parents and siblings born before 1785 to continue in slavery until they died. Even worse, slavery was not ended in New Hampshire until 1857! Although it was generally considered unacceptable to own them it was still legal until then.
I'm sure you won't believe me, but here is the reference anyways http://www.slavenorth.com/ne
I'm not sure if you're from Minnesota or not, but those of us who are have a long history with her saying stupid shit. For example, she advocated criminal action by refusing to fill out census forms and refusing to answer census takers questions. This was even more stupid (for her), since her very job depended on census results as Minnesota was close to losing a congressional district, and hers was the likely one on the chopping block. Nevermind that that taking a census is a constitutionally mandated activity... so much for her beliefs in the founding fathers intentions.
Oh, and her recent claim that the founding fathers were against slavery, and "worked tirelessly" to get rid of it were another one. Hell, she even claimed John Quincy Adams was a founding father, which would be kind of difficult since he was 9 years old when the constitution was signed, although it's possible he may have used his father as a puppet to do his bidding....
All politicians occasionally make off the cuff remarks that wrong, but this wasn't one of those times.. it was part of her rehearsed speech. She *INTENDED* to say these things that were not only flat out wrong, but so ignorant of the very thing she's claiming to represent... history and the constitution.
You don't have to be liberal to think she's a kook. I'm not. At all. You do, however, have to be fucked in the head to admire her, other than her uncanny ability to get re-elected.
You certainly can fly a plan into a building still. The door is not that secure, and is in fact designed to break free for depresurization situations. Also, many pilots still open the door during flight, I see it all the time. And many pilots have relationships with their attendants, and threatening to kill them could convince some pilots to open the door.
Finally, one can think of many scenarios that don't need entrance into the cockpit to cause lots of havok. Gassing the pilots, for instance.
Many of these situations would require someone to have infiltrated the airport and placed equipment either behind security, or on the plane itself. For instance, how many foreign nationals do you see working in the shops and restaurantes inside security? Lots. Yes, they have to go through security as well, but they get deliveries, and other means that could allow someone to sneak things in.
Basically, all that's prevented is someone who hasn't planned too well.
And you are ignoring the following:
How can you sit there and honestly claim OpenFormula is a valid solution today?
Thanks for admitting i'm right. The person I was responding to said "make a clean-room implementation", meaning they will use *NOTHING* but the specification. plug-fests are hacks in which people use de-facto standards to try and make themselves interoperable.
All you're doing is validating my point. Plug-fests should not be required to be interoperable.
Great, and what part of that is mandated by ODF 1.1? You know, the only ratified standard version? What? You mean it's not? So someone can write an ODF compliant app without using this and using their own formula system? Yep, that's right.
Is OOo even compatible with OpenFormula?
I'm curious. How do you plan to create a clean-room implementation of an interoperable ODF using office suite when ODF doesn't specify things as important as how spreadsheet formulas are specified?
I was referring to things like broadband routers, firewalls, wi-fi equipment, etc.. Pretty much anthing that requires configuring an ip address, default gateway, or dhcp.
For instance, none of my netgear firewalls do ipv6, not even their "pro" equipment. I have a watchguard firewall that also has no ipv6 configuration options. How many commercial gateway products support ipv6? None that i've come across.
Really? Every piece of commecial networking equipment i've ever used has been IPv4 only. Now, they could likely be upgraded to IPv6 by firmware update, but most vendors probably wouldn't do that for existing equipment and want you to buy new equipment. In addition, 99% of applications i've seen that are IP aware are only IPv4 aware. Again, that's a big problem.
I don't see how only 1% of people will be affected.
Note: It specifies ECMA-376, not ISO 29500. Office does in fact implement ECMA-376.
Well, since Mr. Asange has not given his reasons for publishing private banking information of normal everyday citizens, all we can do is speculate.
However, since you seem so "surprised"... perhaps you can speculate as to the reasons why he would violate the privacy of private citizens in such a way? What purpose could it serve in Wikileaks mission? I can't think of any, as such one must have to think about other, non-mission related reasons to publish said information.