This isn't just about Motorola, its about the gap between the phone makers and the service providers. It's big enough that NTT plans to drive a truck through it. If this was already a truly competitive market, they'd stay home. The japanese have demonstrated time and again the vulnerabilities of american markets, because american companies won't work together, or can't, then come in as an alternative (since competition already exists) and run the table. You'd think if anyone saw this as a problem they'd stop with the anti-dumping laws and the industry would get it's sh!t together.
...um... That's cutting off a large share of investors...
This stock isn't targeted at Joe 401K or Jane eTrade, it's targetted buyers are the likes of Morgan Stanley, who will buy because it'll be worth 10x that in a couple years. There's no point in offering shares to small investors on a move of this magnitude.
Not 3G in Belgium, Germany, and Netherlands. The Reuters securities article is junk information unless all you want is financials. Here's an article which tells a little more about what's happening.
really wish that the cell vendors over here in the states would get their shit together and offer us something decent.
You hit the nail on the head. I can't imagine them sitting on their hands while 3G/i-mode enters the US (althought it's only 2.5G service being rolled out in Netherlands, Belgium and Germany, so... is it really going to be 3G in US? You know how Japan holds back cool stuff for the home market...) But it's been at least a decade since cell phone service really started (I still have my first bag-phone around here somewhere) and they've really done very little. I think this is a case of Japan invading the US consumer electronic markets, once again, like they did with transistor radios, color TV's and pretty much everything else.
$10,000 for a share of stock in technology that's actually prooven and hot, will probably start carving great chunks of market from the lazy existing vendors, well that's a deal, see? After all the money thrown at companies that are now bust or at <$10 a share, you get the picture. The stock sold because the heavyweight investors know it, NTT knows it, why bother offering stock to small fish?
I fully expect cell phone providers to run to the government to head this off, same as the big 3 automakers did, so innovatively, in the 70's.
Oh, and since your phone is a Kyocera, you might look to see if they offer any upgrades, since Kyocera is a japanese electronics company, after all;)
AOL may endorse the DMCA and SSSCA, but M$ is just as complicit willing to be the RIAA's and MPAA's agent in putting this enforcement into every desktop. No good guys in that battle, best you can hope for is they'll club each other senseless.
As to the question of ordering, reminds me of silly programs we wrote when we were secretly mocking users on our records system years ago.
Enter Yes if you would like to continue OR
Enter No if you do not wish to exit the program.
I'd give the users the benefit of the doubt, if YES/NO choice doesn't work in a way they anticipate then it's most likely the provider's failing, though as I recall, there have been many of examples of people being duped into paying for things they had no knowledge of.
This is like the confusion I get sometimes with software. I'll get prompts I don't want (Geez, fer chrissakes, stop with all the damn are you sure things), it would be nice set a &$%* property in windows to TRUST USER and not second guess me all the time. If there is one, I can't find it.
There's enough of these things that pop up and we can't even figure out what the correct response is.
Frobnitz the fnord?
[YES] [NO] [CANCEL]
I think there's a school of interface design, with a course in making it obvious what input is required of the user. Clearly AOL, M$ (parent company of the US government) and some programmers are either unaware of the subtleties, devious or stupid. I expect it's one of the latter two.
The problem is, and the loophole reflects this, that it was tresspassing. As I don't pay a subscription fee to have a mailbox or to have mail delivered, I can't exactly fight junkmail. But spam is tresspass, as the right to the online mailbox, expense of service, time spent downloading it and space taken up on my harddrive are all my personal property. It's too bad I didn't receive any of the afformentioned spam, as I'd love to take a political party, like the GOP, to court over this and sue for damages.
Ignorance, claimed by Ng, as a Secretary of State should know is no excuse for this breach of law, let alone netiquette.
No real damage can be done to his campaign, however, as he's a distant third in the primary to Riordan (a waffler and friend of big business) and Simon.
Well, the 'eh?' can also be like the rhetorical question, like 'now where did I leave that pencil?' as you are already reaching for it, it requires no answer except from people who only respirate by chattering.
I lived in Michigan most of my life and just could never get over how much garden-like lower Ontario was, compared to lower Michigan which looks so much like a dump. I just hope a lot of tech and success doesn't spoil it. San Jose has, even after the dotbombs, a lot of business and commerce, and it's a pretty drab and ugly place. I originally planned to move here when I came out west, glad I didn't.
We basically traded a certain amount of time to the vendor or other business to underwrite it. As a result it was minimal cost, but there are times when the lab is only for their guests. You might look into sponsorships from Intel or Cisco, and even consider hanging ads or other ways to sell out to business to get funding.
Sure, it's less expensive, and thanks to a higher unemployement rate you won't have to work as hard to recruit people, it's still not anywhere as nice as San Fran. When the job market heats up again, people will move to where they want to live. It's just a cycle and this is about 15 years into the current one.
Well, having lived around the Bay Area for the last 5 years, it's no surprise. Evictions were as outrageous as rent increases, making space for tech company offices and then screwing their employees through rent.
The median cost of rent where I live is the highest in the country. It's a nice place, but I could be buying a house in Ohio every five years, it's that bad. Firemen, police, teachers, gardeners, and others with lower incomes have been leaving the area and are very hard to recruit. The irony is, where tech industries fled to, early on, have become a similar problem. Austin, TX is a great example, seeing insanely rapid growth and the problems it brought, Sacramento, CA went the same route in the mid 80's. However, if you're looking for a decent place out of SF, Sacto isn't a bad place to go. Lots of office space and lower cost of living.
Canada? Wouldn't the taxes alone make that less appealing? When I think it's expensive in California, all I have to do is remember the GST and PST I paid in Ontario. Gads. Probably lots of available land, but so has most of the midwest.
Well, they could auction some off on eBay, wouldn't that be an interesting twist? Have some real prestige on/. a very low UID which you could rub in the noses of people over, say, 218170 (just to pick any number out of the air.)
Probably be bid up to a few million tho, like this.
I like The Reg, too, even have their vulture sticker on my truck, but it's no substitute. Their headlines are pretty corny, too, like the 'from the dropping-a-few-bucks-in-the-guitar-case dept.' bits.
For the money, I'll still do/., as long as it has value. The RSA posts have been very helpful at work, as we're gearing up for their imperial storm troopers.
Karma's too easy to get as it is. If you didn't get karma for Funny that might be another matter, but what you are suggesting is as a contributing poster you get a discount. Well, that's pretty much a minefield and for $5 it can be dodged, heck, I probably made $5 while I was sitting here typing.
A technology that may actually HURT the porn industry!
Only if they don't deploy it first, and better. I can just imagine the first article on slashdot "Converted pr0n Specs With Linux Showing Anime" No wonder we're geeks!
But she could also find out that you're a geek and run for her life.
Not all women flee geeks, but yeah, it probably requires no more than "Hello, how are you?" to get all the information she needs to know, and a lot more she doesn't, technology would be superfluous n this realm.
Now, consider this app being used by geek chicks. Uh, huh, better think about hacking the database guys, before they find out how short your sliderule is!
Yeah, imagine this, an online database of Little Black Book information. Women would revolt, however they've already evlolved a high degree of resistance to geeks anyway.
Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of Bodacious Babes, all laughing at you, as you show up with your 'Specs', Laptop and 802.11 wireless networking stuff.
Can you imagine wearing glasses or goggles that, when looking at a person, a built-in display would tell you everything you wanted to know about that person?
XRay Glasses? Sure, they cost a couple bucks in the back of old comic books
Seriously, I wear beer goggles when I need corrected vision, though after last night, I fear I'll need the beer to quell a broken heart. And by the way, I'm already imagining how this could lead to the great-granddaddy of all time Invasion of Privacy, or just plain old You Sick Pervert tiffs.
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I lusted after one of these and even snuck into a SGI's sales center near Detroit years ago, along with a bunch of vendors, commercial bigwigs, graphic designers, and such to see the latest Indi , software and stuff. Also, got a peek at one of the higher end systems being used for a flight simulator which would still kick some serious graphical butt. Too bad I could never scrub together the $6K just to get the basic system. I've probably still got piles of stuff on these in a box back in my parents house. Yeah, i can sympathize with James, but there's still something...ewww... about putting anything other than an R3000 or R4000 in there...
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This isn't just about Motorola, its about the gap between the phone makers and the service providers. It's big enough that NTT plans to drive a truck through it. If this was already a truly competitive market, they'd stay home. The japanese have demonstrated time and again the vulnerabilities of american markets, because american companies won't work together, or can't, then come in as an alternative (since competition already exists) and run the table. You'd think if anyone saw this as a problem they'd stop with the anti-dumping laws and the industry would get it's sh!t together.
This stock isn't targeted at Joe 401K or Jane eTrade, it's targetted buyers are the likes of Morgan Stanley, who will buy because it'll be worth 10x that in a couple years. There's no point in offering shares to small investors on a move of this magnitude.
Not 3G in Belgium, Germany, and Netherlands. The Reuters securities article is junk information unless all you want is financials. Here's an article which tells a little more about what's happening.
You hit the nail on the head. I can't imagine them sitting on their hands while 3G/i-mode enters the US (althought it's only 2.5G service being rolled out in Netherlands, Belgium and Germany, so... is it really going to be 3G in US? You know how Japan holds back cool stuff for the home market...) But it's been at least a decade since cell phone service really started (I still have my first bag-phone around here somewhere) and they've really done very little. I think this is a case of Japan invading the US consumer electronic markets, once again, like they did with transistor radios, color TV's and pretty much everything else.
$10,000 for a share of stock in technology that's actually prooven and hot, will probably start carving great chunks of market from the lazy existing vendors, well that's a deal, see? After all the money thrown at companies that are now bust or at <$10 a share, you get the picture. The stock sold because the heavyweight investors know it, NTT knows it, why bother offering stock to small fish?
I fully expect cell phone providers to run to the government to head this off, same as the big 3 automakers did, so innovatively, in the 70's.
Oh, and since your phone is a Kyocera, you might look to see if they offer any upgrades, since Kyocera is a japanese electronics company, after all ;)
As to the question of ordering, reminds me of silly programs we wrote when we were secretly mocking users on our records system years ago.
Enter Yes if you would like to continue OR
Enter No if you do not wish to exit the program.
I'd give the users the benefit of the doubt, if YES/NO choice doesn't work in a way they anticipate then it's most likely the provider's failing, though as I recall, there have been many of examples of people being duped into paying for things they had no knowledge of.
There's enough of these things that pop up and we can't even figure out what the correct response is.
I think there's a school of interface design, with a course in making it obvious what input is required of the user. Clearly AOL, M$ (parent company of the US government) and some programmers are either unaware of the subtleties, devious or stupid. I expect it's one of the latter two.
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"Ok, bark! Roll over, now! Play dead! Good AG!"
Ignorance, claimed by Ng, as a Secretary of State should know is no excuse for this breach of law, let alone netiquette.
No real damage can be done to his campaign, however, as he's a distant third in the primary to Riordan (a waffler and friend of big business) and Simon.
I lived in Michigan most of my life and just could never get over how much garden-like lower Ontario was, compared to lower Michigan which looks so much like a dump. I just hope a lot of tech and success doesn't spoil it. San Jose has, even after the dotbombs, a lot of business and commerce, and it's a pretty drab and ugly place. I originally planned to move here when I came out west, glad I didn't.
We basically traded a certain amount of time to the vendor or other business to underwrite it. As a result it was minimal cost, but there are times when the lab is only for their guests. You might look into sponsorships from Intel or Cisco, and even consider hanging ads or other ways to sell out to business to get funding.
Yeah, like, totally.
The thing that gets me is, most often 'eh' isn't a question, it's a statement, like, consider the following examples:
We're out of beer, eh?
Yeah, let's get some Elsinores, eh!
Oh, and it could be even far worse, everyone could be saying 'Warshington' or 'cawfee'.
Now I gotta get back to my coding...
Sure, it's less expensive, and thanks to a higher unemployement rate you won't have to work as hard to recruit people, it's still not anywhere as nice as San Fran. When the job market heats up again, people will move to where they want to live. It's just a cycle and this is about 15 years into the current one.
The median cost of rent where I live is the highest in the country. It's a nice place, but I could be buying a house in Ohio every five years, it's that bad. Firemen, police, teachers, gardeners, and others with lower incomes have been leaving the area and are very hard to recruit. The irony is, where tech industries fled to, early on, have become a similar problem. Austin, TX is a great example, seeing insanely rapid growth and the problems it brought, Sacramento, CA went the same route in the mid 80's. However, if you're looking for a decent place out of SF, Sacto isn't a bad place to go. Lots of office space and lower cost of living.
Canada? Wouldn't the taxes alone make that less appealing? When I think it's expensive in California, all I have to do is remember the GST and PST I paid in Ontario. Gads. Probably lots of available land, but so has most of the midwest.
Probably be bid up to a few million tho, like this.
For the money, I'll still do /., as long as it has value. The RSA posts have been very helpful at work, as we're gearing up for their imperial storm troopers.
Karma's too easy to get as it is. If you didn't get karma for Funny that might be another matter, but what you are suggesting is as a contributing poster you get a discount. Well, that's pretty much a minefield and for $5 it can be dodged, heck, I probably made $5 while I was sitting here typing.
I should pop over and see how the LNUX stock is doing, it's probably doubled by now.
Oh, and how about a meter on this thing so I can see how fast I'm going through my 1K pages?
Um, isn't the bride's father supposed to foot most of the bill? He's probably the one who thought of it.
Yeah, what'm I gonna do with Karma anyway? Work for youse guys? I.e. Moderate, Metamoderate? I already do that for free...
Only if they don't deploy it first, and better. I can just imagine the first article on slashdot "Converted pr0n Specs With Linux Showing Anime" No wonder we're geeks!
Not all women flee geeks, but yeah, it probably requires no more than "Hello, how are you?" to get all the information she needs to know, and a lot more she doesn't, technology would be superfluous n this realm.
Now, consider this app being used by geek chicks. Uh, huh, better think about hacking the database guys, before they find out how short your sliderule is!
Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of Bodacious Babes, all laughing at you, as you show up with your 'Specs', Laptop and 802.11 wireless networking stuff.
XRay Glasses? Sure, they cost a couple bucks in the back of old comic books
Seriously, I wear beer goggles when I need corrected vision, though after last night, I fear I'll need the beer to quell a broken heart. And by the way, I'm already imagining how this could lead to the great-granddaddy of all time Invasion of Privacy, or just plain old You Sick Pervert tiffs.
I lusted after one of these and even snuck into a SGI's sales center near Detroit years ago, along with a bunch of vendors, commercial bigwigs, graphic designers, and such to see the latest Indi , software and stuff. Also, got a peek at one of the higher end systems being used for a flight simulator which would still kick some serious graphical butt. Too bad I could never scrub together the $6K just to get the basic system. I've probably still got piles of stuff on these in a box back in my parents house. Yeah, i can sympathize with James, but there's still something ...ewww... about putting anything other than an R3000 or R4000 in there...