yeah... because since the 60s, all NASA has done is launch probes to all of the planets, orbiters to a bunch of them, rovers on Mars, interstellar probes at the boundary of the solar system, ion drives, missions to asteroids... gee I sure wish we were still trying to put a couple of guys into low earth orbit.
The James Webb Space Telescope (with it's awesome infra-red capabilities!) is a definite posibility of getting axed. Lots of other astronomy projects are threatened by the budget axe, too. Some great work being done from the ground, but there's getting to be a lot less support for keeping it going.
Do you care to discuss this point using reason and logic, or it this just flamebait?
Honest question, it is worth discussing.
Intellectual honesty, or coward? Just asking,
I'd point out something about anonymous coward and finger pointing, but don't expect you have the grace to say, "Touché"
Sometimes it's just about having a little light hearted fun, after all this is a political thread. I don't expect anything in here to influence a vote, one way or the other.
here in the technical vastness of The Future, we can guess that surely, the past was very different. We know for certain, for instance, that for some reason, for some time in the beginning, there were hot lumps. Cold and lonely, they whirled noiselessly through the black holes of space.
This is making me feel like there's a big game going on.
You'll never escape gravity!
OK, you escaped gravity, but you'll never survive the Van Allen Radiation Belt!
OK, you passed through the Van Allen Radiation Belt, but you'll never make it through the Asteroid belt!
OK, you successfully navigated the Asteroid belt, but you'll never make it through the Kuiper belt!
Dang, you made it through the Kuiper belt, but you'll never, ever make it through the Baryon Halo! Muah ha ha ha haaaah!
They are if there's a tax penalty in it levied under the FBAR Amnesty program because his Swiss bank threatened to report his numbered account to the IRS.
That program is for two people: those who are completely ignorant of the tax code because they just immigrated into the US and were told too late what to do with offshore accounts, and those who tried to hide capital gains from the IRS. The first one doesn't apply the Romney, and the second ought to really make you question why Romney is running.
Maybe he's running so when elected he can get that annoying bit of tax code repealed. It might be very popular with the 1%.
I agree, I feel like we should make a our goal creating a base on the moon from which to launch further expeditions to Mars, perhaps even construct the ships out there, so that we can make them larger, and more habitable.
It's all sci-fi sounding I agree, but It could be a step in the right direction... anything would be a step in the right direction.
The latest step appears to be, "Let's watch and see what China and India do."
I think we know enough about Iran's internal power dynamic to know that Khameini and the Guardian Council themselves are just figureheads. It certainly was the case when Khomeini was Supreme Leader that the position was unassailable, but Khameini was always considered a relatively weak man, and almost certainly since 2009 Iran is now really run by the Revolutionary Guard and the leadership of the Basij. If Khameini was independent before, he is now a sick old man dominated by the "guardians of the Islamic revolution", and most certainly when he kicks the bucket, the next Supreme Leader will be the Revolutionary Guard's man. The day when the Supreme Leader was an independent authority capable of bringing the other factions to heal are gone. Iran is essentially a thinly veiled military dictatorship.
Yep. Next president will be hand picked and approved of by the Republican Guard.
The company's head lawyer is quoted praising the two former adversaries, and explaining once again that the company wants to license its patents instead of heading to court.
You'll know they have the patent when they sue you.
I'd recommend Avast! or AVG, but I'm sure this "Ask Slashdot" is going to start a flame war.
Oh, and first post!
Avast! must have slowed you down a bit. I've found some of these free antivirus tools to be real CPU suckers. I'm running Avira at the moment and it seems to be taking a larger slice of time with each passing month. I'm thinking of getting off it as I'd like my CPU back.
Sounds like a big LAN to me. But, it might be harder for us to get viruses into them now.
In the end it won't be about viruses, but Twitter, Facebook, various blogs and forums, which they want to keep their people away from, so the only source of information becomes the state. If you can't trust the state, whom can you trust?
BTW, Ahmadinejad has won the next election by a landslide, take their word for it.
Well for every farm that goes out of business or reduces its size. Chances are the Land will not be growing fallow, but sold and made into a housing Complex, A factory, a strip mall... In essence it will be replaced with something that is more harmful overall. And if farming comes back the farmers will buy wooded land and plow that over to make crops.
Right now we are too partisan for a law that allows the government to buy for sale farm land, Just hold on to it let it grow fallow, Then sell it back at market rate back to the farmers 10 20 100 years in the future.
Most farms I see hit the auction block are bought up by people (or agribusinesses) and keep right on growing things. Just because one person failed, for whatever reason it was, should not be taken as evidence you can't make money in farming. Even after the Carter era, with all the farmers losing their land because they took out Adjustable Rate loans and were broken by skyrocketing interest rates, many farmers kept right on going. The parents of one girl I knew in college were doing quite well with a couple thousand acres, diversified with a small dairy operation, summed it up thus "farmers who lost their farms were bad at running their own business."
Beef is not good for health. So don't eat it often, but if you're going to eat beef, pick the most enjoyable form for you. Otherwise you're just wasting your life and the beef.
If you don't like it, don't eat it. But if you really like steaks, unless you're really unlucky or unhealthy or stupid[1], a steak dinner every month or three isn't going to kill you that fast. Every week would probably be pushing it but some research would need to be done;).
[1] stupid = eating way too much, like a kilo.
Careful, there are lobbyists and associations who don't like to hear you talk like that.:D
I've become nearly vegetarian, myself. It was quite a challenge while living in the midwest, but in California there are a great many more food options which are less animal dependent, particularly southern Indian cuisine.
There are a great many things I eat now, such as vegetarian quesadillas (using soy cheese, as I'm allergic to dairy), pasta with marinara (with lotsa garlic bread:), curries, stir fries and even vegetable pizzas heaped with all sorts of stuff, including fresh chopped garlic, (and again soy cheese, which is far better than it was 10 years ago) and so on. I swear I eat better than I ever have, just have to curb my appetite to keep from putting on weight. Also found, to a large degree, it's all the stuff you add to meat which makes it taste so good, so skip the meat and enjoy the other stuff even more. Bon apetit!
These and other references were brought to my attention at a time I had recently recovered from, yet another Streptococcus throat infection, where I could scarcely swallow for three days. I decided to give up beef, chicken, pork and rely only on fish caught in the lakes or ocean. Over a period of two years I did notice the severity of respiratory infections decline and when I did take antibiotics they actually worked. Though anecdotal, I did recall antibiotics had little to no effect before I changed my diet. Eventually a dairy allergy would remove all cheese, yoghurt, milk from my diet and I find the period from initial detection of a respiratory infection to recovery to be down to less than a week, where I once would suffer these occurances for up to two weeks. I believe there is merit to these studies, particularly regarding the constant presence of low levels of antibiotics in the body creating a breeding ground for resistant strains (which are on the rise) and leaving my immune system impared to some degree, as all antibiotics are toxins which target certain organisms, but also have a degree of collateral damage (killing non-bacterial cells.)
The land doesn't suffer if it is managed properly. Research holistic land management. The Savory Institute is a good place to start. Here in Colorado, a few ranchers are making their cattle graze in patterns that the bison do naturally: grouped tighter together, never staying in the same area for very long. In any given area, the cattle don't eat too much or poop too much. They trample the ground just enough, pushing seeds just below the surface. The grass has evolved to grow optimally under these conditions. Animals and land have a symbiotic relationship; both benefit from each other. If we use animals as a tool to make a healthier earth, we all win.
Plant life is only one aspect of the affect on land of grazing. On hilly terrain you'll notice it becomes terraced, cattle traverse hillsides. Many areas I've visited the hills look somewhat like the old Towers of Hanoi pieces. Terracing weakens the topsoil and often has resulted in massive landslides. Grazing land would need to be left alone for about 10 years to begin recovery, but seldom gets the chance. There's also the matter of all that cattle poo changing what happily grows on the land, as grass tends to dominate poorly fertile land, whereas the cattle dung fertilizes it and entire other species begin to take over (which over time could eventually starve out the cattle as the new dominant plants aren't to their tastes.
And here I thought the Beef Council was only suckering Americans into eating more and more and MOAR.
Remember how James Garner did those "Beef, it's what's for dinner" commercials? Not so since he had that quad heart bypass.
After the first few mouthfuls pretty much any food begins to lose its appeal (unless you have that affliction where the blood sugars, etc, don't stop telling the brain you've been eating.) Small amounts now and then keep it special, after that it's just gluttony.
If I eat beef every two days will I live twice as long? If not, I think you're practicing false economy. Beef is delicious. If you're trying to extend your life by avoiding pleasurable things, you're missing the point of life.
The amount of beef you need to eat on a daily basis for your protein needs would be a cube (raw) is about 1.5 inches on a side, anything after that is just clogging up your colon and your arteries. It's shocking, at least to me, to see people ordering huge steaks, which do more harm to their health than they are aware of. If you like to eat it, add it to things, like stir-fry or stew, and by all means go for organic or free range meat, not that stuff loaded with steroids and antibiotics (gotta keep that fat bull alive long enough to get to the slaughterhouse.)
I.e. fattening them up. Changed the entire industry of cattle from range fed (grasses) to loading them up with Corn, which is a water-hungry crop. With the mentality of Wall Street, the cattle industry has gone after maximizing profits - steroids to fatten them up even more, antibiotics (which remain in the meat, even after cooking, so you end up with antibiotic resistant strains developing, not to overlook constant exposure to antibiotics hammers your own immune system) and a dependency upon water and petroleum, it's becoming less suitable to areas of land as the damage to land can be considerable, plus it has brought us the wonders of invasive plant species, thanks to feed coming from where-ever is cheap and available.
yeah... because since the 60s, all NASA has done is launch probes to all of the planets, orbiters to a bunch of them, rovers on Mars, interstellar probes at the boundary of the solar system, ion drives, missions to asteroids... gee I sure wish we were still trying to put a couple of guys into low earth orbit.
The James Webb Space Telescope (with it's awesome infra-red capabilities!) is a definite posibility of getting axed. Lots of other astronomy projects are threatened by the budget axe, too. Some great work being done from the ground, but there's getting to be a lot less support for keeping it going.
Wow, Magic Johnson must pay a LOT of taxes to cover for medicare alone!
I think his on-going HIV treatments are sufficient medical expense deductions he doesn't end up with much owed at the end of the year.
Do you care to discuss this point using reason and logic, or it this just flamebait?
Honest question, it is worth discussing.
Intellectual honesty, or coward? Just asking,
I'd point out something about anonymous coward and finger pointing, but don't expect you have the grace to say, "Touché"
Sometimes it's just about having a little light hearted fun, after all this is a political thread. I don't expect anything in here to influence a vote, one way or the other.
here in the technical vastness of The Future, we can guess that surely, the past was very different. We know for certain, for instance, that for some reason, for some time in the beginning, there were hot lumps. Cold and lonely, they whirled noiselessly through the black holes of space.
This is making me feel like there's a big game going on.
You'll never escape gravity!
OK, you escaped gravity, but you'll never survive the Van Allen Radiation Belt!
OK, you passed through the Van Allen Radiation Belt, but you'll never make it through the Asteroid belt!
OK, you successfully navigated the Asteroid belt, but you'll never make it through the Kuiper belt!
Dang, you made it through the Kuiper belt, but you'll never, ever make it through the Baryon Halo! Muah ha ha ha haaaah!
Iiiii'm the CAT!
Seriously, we're not going to get out of this galaxy alive.
They are if there's a tax penalty in it levied under the FBAR Amnesty program because his Swiss bank threatened to report his numbered account to the IRS.
That program is for two people: those who are completely ignorant of the tax code because they just immigrated into the US and were told too late what to do with offshore accounts, and those who tried to hide capital gains from the IRS. The first one doesn't apply the Romney, and the second ought to really make you question why Romney is running.
Maybe he's running so when elected he can get that annoying bit of tax code repealed. It might be very popular with the 1%.
I agree, I feel like we should make a our goal creating a base on the moon from which to launch further expeditions to Mars, perhaps even construct the ships out there, so that we can make them larger, and more habitable.
It's all sci-fi sounding I agree, but It could be a step in the right direction... anything would be a step in the right direction.
The latest step appears to be, "Let's watch and see what China and India do."
Even us die-hard Obamatrons are tired of them!
This is the Etch-a-Sketch crowd, haven't you been keeping up?
I'm waiting for the Lego candidate, myself.
Bottom line is, if you can't afford insurance, you have no business getting free health care financed by the rest of us. Find a free clinic.
And who pays for this "free" clinic?
Magic. Magic pays for everything. It's the new fiscal accounting model.
47% of space doesn't pay any taxes
I think we know enough about Iran's internal power dynamic to know that Khameini and the Guardian Council themselves are just figureheads. It certainly was the case when Khomeini was Supreme Leader that the position was unassailable, but Khameini was always considered a relatively weak man, and almost certainly since 2009 Iran is now really run by the Revolutionary Guard and the leadership of the Basij. If Khameini was independent before, he is now a sick old man dominated by the "guardians of the Islamic revolution", and most certainly when he kicks the bucket, the next Supreme Leader will be the Revolutionary Guard's man. The day when the Supreme Leader was an independent authority capable of bringing the other factions to heal are gone. Iran is essentially a thinly veiled military dictatorship.
Yep. Next president will be hand picked and approved of by the Republican Guard.
Seems I've been hearing that for the last month or so.
I keep expecting Mitt and Paul to get elected, then slip out of their disguises as Kang and Kodos.
I for one ... ah, bugger it.
The company's head lawyer is quoted praising the two former adversaries, and explaining once again that the company wants to license its patents instead of heading to court.
You'll know they have the patent when they sue you.
I'd recommend Avast! or AVG, but I'm sure this "Ask Slashdot" is going to start a flame war.
Oh, and first post!
Avast! must have slowed you down a bit. I've found some of these free antivirus tools to be real CPU suckers. I'm running Avira at the moment and it seems to be taking a larger slice of time with each passing month. I'm thinking of getting off it as I'd like my CPU back.
Sounds like a big LAN to me. But, it might be harder for us to get viruses into them now.
In the end it won't be about viruses, but Twitter, Facebook, various blogs and forums, which they want to keep their people away from, so the only source of information becomes the state. If you can't trust the state, whom can you trust?
BTW, Ahmadinejad has won the next election by a landslide, take their word for it.
But the effect of cutting their people off from the rest of the world appears to be the goal.
Well for every farm that goes out of business or reduces its size. Chances are the Land will not be growing fallow, but sold and made into a housing Complex, A factory, a strip mall... In essence it will be replaced with something that is more harmful overall. And if farming comes back the farmers will buy wooded land and plow that over to make crops.
Right now we are too partisan for a law that allows the government to buy for sale farm land, Just hold on to it let it grow fallow, Then sell it back at market rate back to the farmers 10 20 100 years in the future.
Most farms I see hit the auction block are bought up by people (or agribusinesses) and keep right on growing things. Just because one person failed, for whatever reason it was, should not be taken as evidence you can't make money in farming. Even after the Carter era, with all the farmers losing their land because they took out Adjustable Rate loans and were broken by skyrocketing interest rates, many farmers kept right on going. The parents of one girl I knew in college were doing quite well with a couple thousand acres, diversified with a small dairy operation, summed it up thus "farmers who lost their farms were bad at running their own business."
Beef is not good for health. So don't eat it often, but if you're going to eat beef, pick the most enjoyable form for you. Otherwise you're just wasting your life and the beef.
If you don't like it, don't eat it. But if you really like steaks, unless you're really unlucky or unhealthy or stupid[1], a steak dinner every month or three isn't going to kill you that fast. Every week would probably be pushing it but some research would need to be done ;).
[1] stupid = eating way too much, like a kilo.
Careful, there are lobbyists and associations who don't like to hear you talk like that. :D
I've become nearly vegetarian, myself. It was quite a challenge while living in the midwest, but in California there are a great many more food options which are less animal dependent, particularly southern Indian cuisine.
There are a great many things I eat now, such as vegetarian quesadillas (using soy cheese, as I'm allergic to dairy), pasta with marinara (with lotsa garlic bread :), curries, stir fries and even vegetable pizzas heaped with all sorts of stuff, including fresh chopped garlic, (and again soy cheese, which is far better than it was 10 years ago) and so on. I swear I eat better than I ever have, just have to curb my appetite to keep from putting on weight. Also found, to a large degree, it's all the stuff you add to meat which makes it taste so good, so skip the meat and enjoy the other stuff even more. Bon apetit!
antibiotics (which remain in the meat, even after cooking
Citation needed.
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf00047a035
http://mbioblog.asm.org/mbiosphere/2012/08/antibiotic-residues-in-fermented-sausage-meat-target-beneficial-bacteria-leave-pathogens-alone.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2134130/
These and other references were brought to my attention at a time I had recently recovered from, yet another Streptococcus throat infection, where I could scarcely swallow for three days. I decided to give up beef, chicken, pork and rely only on fish caught in the lakes or ocean. Over a period of two years I did notice the severity of respiratory infections decline and when I did take antibiotics they actually worked. Though anecdotal, I did recall antibiotics had little to no effect before I changed my diet. Eventually a dairy allergy would remove all cheese, yoghurt, milk from my diet and I find the period from initial detection of a respiratory infection to recovery to be down to less than a week, where I once would suffer these occurances for up to two weeks. I believe there is merit to these studies, particularly regarding the constant presence of low levels of antibiotics in the body creating a breeding ground for resistant strains (which are on the rise) and leaving my immune system impared to some degree, as all antibiotics are toxins which target certain organisms, but also have a degree of collateral damage (killing non-bacterial cells.)
The land doesn't suffer if it is managed properly. Research holistic land management. The Savory Institute is a good place to start. Here in Colorado, a few ranchers are making their cattle graze in patterns that the bison do naturally: grouped tighter together, never staying in the same area for very long. In any given area, the cattle don't eat too much or poop too much. They trample the ground just enough, pushing seeds just below the surface. The grass has evolved to grow optimally under these conditions. Animals and land have a symbiotic relationship; both benefit from each other. If we use animals as a tool to make a healthier earth, we all win.
Plant life is only one aspect of the affect on land of grazing. On hilly terrain you'll notice it becomes terraced, cattle traverse hillsides. Many areas I've visited the hills look somewhat like the old Towers of Hanoi pieces. Terracing weakens the topsoil and often has resulted in massive landslides. Grazing land would need to be left alone for about 10 years to begin recovery, but seldom gets the chance. There's also the matter of all that cattle poo changing what happily grows on the land, as grass tends to dominate poorly fertile land, whereas the cattle dung fertilizes it and entire other species begin to take over (which over time could eventually starve out the cattle as the new dominant plants aren't to their tastes.
Although, I am a bit worried about what this will do to gummy worm prices.
Time to consider switching to Swedish Fish.
Shhhh! You'll spike the market for Swedish Fish.
Don't eat them, they taste like cod liver oil!
Why are Europeans so hung up on food?
And here I thought the Beef Council was only suckering Americans into eating more and more and MOAR.
Remember how James Garner did those "Beef, it's what's for dinner" commercials? Not so since he had that quad heart bypass.
After the first few mouthfuls pretty much any food begins to lose its appeal (unless you have that affliction where the blood sugars, etc, don't stop telling the brain you've been eating.) Small amounts now and then keep it special, after that it's just gluttony.
If I eat beef every two days will I live twice as long? If not, I think you're practicing false economy. Beef is delicious. If you're trying to extend your life by avoiding pleasurable things, you're missing the point of life.
The amount of beef you need to eat on a daily basis for your protein needs would be a cube (raw) is about 1.5 inches on a side, anything after that is just clogging up your colon and your arteries. It's shocking, at least to me, to see people ordering huge steaks, which do more harm to their health than they are aware of. If you like to eat it, add it to things, like stir-fry or stew, and by all means go for organic or free range meat, not that stuff loaded with steroids and antibiotics (gotta keep that fat bull alive long enough to get to the slaughterhouse.)
No good came from feeding them corn
Lol, wut?
I.e. fattening them up. Changed the entire industry of cattle from range fed (grasses) to loading them up with Corn, which is a water-hungry crop. With the mentality of Wall Street, the cattle industry has gone after maximizing profits - steroids to fatten them up even more, antibiotics (which remain in the meat, even after cooking, so you end up with antibiotic resistant strains developing, not to overlook constant exposure to antibiotics hammers your own immune system) and a dependency upon water and petroleum, it's becoming less suitable to areas of land as the damage to land can be considerable, plus it has brought us the wonders of invasive plant species, thanks to feed coming from where-ever is cheap and available.