as a former employee of the tattered cover i think this is a huge victory for the first amendment. i hope that this will help to set a precidence that will carry over into other areas as well.
reading a book is not a crime. hacking should not be a crime.
But see the thing is, the lawyers are here. Not only are they here but they are backed by some of the largest, strongest and political companies that exist. They are bring the fight into the court rooms and capitals and they are finding a weak resistance from those who disagree with them. Groups like the EFF and the Center for Internet and Society can only do so much without more support. It kinda sucks that the only response to lawyers is more lawyers but thats the rules of the game.
I hope that you and others will realize just how scary some of things that are happening in the backwater bars of D.C. We all need to take a part if we are to stop this.
Please support the EFF, they are one of the only groups out there that are actually looking after you and me.
flag-bearers can only do so much alone. there are a couple such people who are trying to draw attention to the attacks on the internet but they can only do so much with out an army to back them. right now the public is rather indifferent about civil liberties online and they just assume use what is placed in front of them. the 'battle' will continue to be lost until more people start paying attention to what is going on.
the question i would ask you, Dyas, is what are you going to do about it?
i am all for the message that lessig is telling us. i have followed the debate some what however, for what it is worth, i feel as though it is ineffective. the message that the holders of ip are stifling the commons is valid however the words are falling on deaf ears. the only people who are really listening to him are his student (they have to, as he is the grader of their papers), academics and some ip lawyers who are not attached to to large companies who have large holding of copyright.
in order for his message concerning the future of ideas to be effective it must be received and adopted by the techies. it is only after the techies take up the cause that they are being threaten will his message will have some true meat to it. the people who are the most influence, i.e. congress and courts, are being inundate with anti-lessigism and are blind to the alternative (will we ever see mickey mouse in the public domain? No). the lobbies and the lawyers are drowning out whatever counter arguments exist against the extenuation of copyright controls.
until some of the 'leaders' of the techies take note and start supporting this platform we all will just end up watching our rome burn like nero. eric raymond thinks the message in code and most likely his new book are false. he feels that no matter what happens the techies will be able to adapt, overcome and conquer anything that washington throws at the techies. wired news on aug 29, 2001 says "linus torvalds... wasn't quite so pessimistic. 'a lot of people are wasting time over disagreements,' he said, referring to legendary sectarian squabbles within the open-source community. 'but i think people will get their act together,' torvalds said. ' within the last six months, there has been a lot more (political) activity.'" However as long as Prof Felton isn't publishing, the DCMA is up held and Dmitry Sklyarov is being prosecuted... then there isn't enough support for open source and more must be done.
once the techies, the geeks, the open sourcers and those who are most affected by copyright controls (DMCA), then perhaps the public will take note. without the techies support then the message lessig is telling us is ineffective and the internet will be lost.
there are hundreds of lawyers and millions of dollars against us, why aren't we doing something about it?
if company's have a big o'le stock of lawyers who are changing the face of the internet away from being for information exchange and towards being walmart...
what are we supposed to do to stop this? how do we say no to the lawyers and work to prevent the future commercialization of the internet? because if we don't do anything...
they will win.
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as a former employee of the tattered cover i think this is a huge victory for the first amendment. i hope that this will help to set a precidence that will carry over into other areas as well.
reading a book is not a crime.
hacking should not be a crime.
But see the thing is, the lawyers are here. Not only are they here but they are backed by some of the largest, strongest and political companies that exist. They are bring the fight into the court rooms and capitals and they are finding a weak resistance from those who disagree with them. Groups like the EFF and the Center for Internet and Society can only do so much without more support. It kinda sucks that the only response to lawyers is more lawyers but thats the rules of the game.
I hope that you and others will realize just how scary some of things that are happening in the backwater bars of D.C. We all need to take a part if we are to stop this.
Please support the EFF, they are one of the only groups out there that are actually looking after you and me.
flag-bearers can only do so much alone. there are a couple such people who are trying to draw attention to the attacks on the internet but they can only do so much with out an army to back them. right now the public is rather indifferent about civil liberties online and they just assume use what is placed in front of them. the 'battle' will continue to be lost until more people start paying attention to what is going on.
the question i would ask you, Dyas, is what are you going to do about it?
no matter what happens you will always know that you did your best while people who are connected the most cyberspace slept in.
you do get around...
sorry less' your hair is too short to be i.d.ed as a stanford lawyer. face it, you just spent too much time at Yale and Harvard...
if your pissed just go to the beach while charle and terry freeze in cambridge.
i am all for the message that lessig is telling us. i have followed the debate some what however, for what it is worth, i feel as though it is ineffective. the message that the holders of ip are stifling the commons is valid however the words are falling on deaf ears. the only people who are really listening to him are his student (they have to, as he is the grader of their papers), academics and some ip lawyers who are not attached to to large companies who have large holding of copyright.
in order for his message concerning the future of ideas to be effective it must be received and adopted by the techies. it is only after the techies take up the cause that they are being threaten will his message will have some true meat to it. the people who are the most influence, i.e. congress and courts, are being inundate with anti-lessigism and are blind to the alternative (will we ever see mickey mouse in the public domain? No). the lobbies and the lawyers are drowning out whatever counter arguments exist against the extenuation of copyright controls.
until some of the 'leaders' of the techies take note and start supporting this platform we all will just end up watching our rome burn like nero. eric raymond thinks the message in code and most likely his new book are false. he feels that no matter what happens the techies will be able to adapt, overcome and conquer anything that washington throws at the techies. wired news on aug 29, 2001 says "linus torvalds... wasn't quite so pessimistic. 'a lot of people are wasting time over disagreements,' he said, referring to legendary sectarian squabbles within the open-source community. 'but i think people will get their act together,' torvalds said. ' within the last six months, there has been a lot more (political) activity.'" However as long as Prof Felton isn't publishing, the DCMA is up held and Dmitry Sklyarov is being prosecuted... then there isn't enough support for open source and more must be done.
once the techies, the geeks, the open sourcers and those who are most affected by copyright controls (DMCA), then perhaps the public will take note. without the techies support then the message lessig is telling us is ineffective and the internet will be lost.
there are hundreds of lawyers and millions of dollars against us, why aren't we doing something about it?
no problem on my mac with netscape communicator 4.75
is it just the open source browser?
if company's have a big o'le stock of lawyers who are changing the face of the internet away from being for information exchange and towards being walmart... what are we supposed to do to stop this? how do we say no to the lawyers and work to prevent the future commercialization of the internet? because if we don't do anything... they will win.