How does the copyright prevent you from doing this? After all, the math obviously can't be copyrighted, just the particular form in which it is presented in the handbook, and whatever else is original there. So you can't reproduce a bunch of their graphs in your own book without permission, but certainly, for example, you could graph the functions themselves, or use them any way you wanted to.
That's an unfortunate side stepping of our rights as citizens.
What rights are these, and where do they come from? They are not legal rights, of course, as the assignment of copyright was done according to the law.
It was created with public money, it should be public domain.
Does not follow. Should all the government's classified information be made public domain immediately because it was created with public money? Should members of the public be able to reproduce without attribution my scientific papers because the research was supported by tax dollars? I hope not. (This is what "public domain" means: far more than free access.)
The online version of the handbook is free and provided in a convenient form. What would we gain if it were placed in the "public domain"?
I'm not saying that it's impossible. It's just really hard. Google has the money and people to make that stuff happen.
No argument there; I just found their calender to be an instructive example. I have no idea how painful its creation was for their programmers.
Manhattan, where they have enough money to level things and start over again.
I don't think so. Manhattan evolved haphazardly from the south; when they hit what's now Houston street they started to lay the roads out on a grid, more or less. Try to navigate my old neighborhood in southern Manhattan, or the warped spacetime of W. 4th St, and it will be much more confusing (and interesting).
As they suggest where? I looked around at the stix site, but it seems that I'll have to spend more time there to actually find out how to download the fonts. I saw a sugestion that I need to register as a beta tester to use them. Is this true?
Sorry, my previous attempt at submitting this comment had a paragraph chopped off
I recently tried out basically all the calendering programs available as native applications on OS X and linux that had a chance of being able to sync with the iphone calender (which can use a standard webdav protocol for syncing). I wound up settling on Google's calender, which is a web application (even though it has had its own issues). (I used remind, and its curses front-end wyrd, for years, but no caldav sync there.)
I found it amusing that this web app was prettier, more responsive, more intuitive, and more capable than any of the native applications that I had tried to use (well, maybe Apple's iCal is about as pretty). All the native applications were either too slow, too buggy, missing some essential feature, or some combination of these. Amusing, because people have had decades to try to come up with a decent calendar app, and here is Google stringing one together to run in a browser, and it's better, even in ways (responsiveness) that you wouldn't expect.
I recently tried out basically all the calendering programs available as native applications on OS X and linux that had a chance of being able to sync with the iphone calender (which can use a standard webdav protocol for syncing). I wound up settling on Google's calender, which is a web application (even though it has had its own issues). (I used remind, and its curses front-end wyrd, for years, but no caldav sync there.)
I don't use Internet Explorer. I said "Since this is this way most users will see this material [meaning, obviously, as PNG images, because most people can't see MathML) , it's a shame they didn't do a better job [at creating the PNG equations. Duh.]".
I did browse the site using Firefox, and the MathML rendering, while generally easier to read than the PNG version, has the usual problems, namely, poor typography and the occasional unavailable or incorrect character. The latter occurs frequently enough that I wouldn't bother to try to use the MathML version of the site, but would stick with the PNGs, bad as they are.
A great resource, easier to use than a heavy, giant book, and full of beautiful and useful graphs. However:
web text with math mixed in as graphics can be done in a way that is pleasant enough to read, but NIST's pictorial mathematics is not optimal: the size of the symbols is not matched very well with the surrounding text and, because of extreme anti-aliasing, the contrast is very low. Since this is this way most users will see this material, it's a shame they didn't do a better job.
Is there something like Facebook but which doesn't suck so much?
Yes: email. Most of what people use Facebook for can be accomplished better by sending emails to a list. If you want to get fancy, get a domain and put up a webpage.
That's interesting. Are they finally going to disclose their censorship of results in the US in response to demands from religious pressure groups? Or are they going to continue to pretend that this doesn't happen?
The evidence that it was G. Washington is 'An aide simply scrawled "president" next to the title to show who had taken them out'. This seems pretty weak to me. How do we know this means the President of the U.S.? Maybe it was the president of the library, or someone else entirely. The entry was intended to make sense to the library staff, not random other people 200 years later.
Watch Six Degrees of Separation, from about 1993. I think this movie shows that he's actually a very talented actor who's been used as an action hero by some bad directors in movies with execrable scripts. If you think of Independence Day when you think if Will Smith, then this film (actually a filmed play, with a single set, if I recall correctly) will be a big surprise.
Find a single piece of other evidence in the article.
Are you serious? "dog's blood that was found both on him and at the attack site.[...]When they arrested Johnson nearby they found he was covered in blood[...]We did not have excellent ID evidence [suggesting that they had some id evidence, but did not want to rely on it excusively][...]The court heard another dog was also used in the attacks [meaning that there was testimony about the attack at the trial]
Not in the least. It is clear that there is a central database, and not just a laboratory comparison between two samples gathered as evidence. Is it really less painful to keep repeating your mistake rather than just owning up to it?
Before accusing the journalist of being clueless, try reading beyond the first few paragraphs.
'Detective Chief Inspector Mick Norman, who led the investigation, told The Times: "It was vitally important that we could put Johnson at the scene of the attack. We did not have excellent ID evidence and using the dog DNA database forensically unequivocally placed Johnson at the scene of the murder."
The new dog DNA database came online just two-months before the murder in April last year, enabling statistical analysis to be given on samples for the first time...'
Did anyone on Slashdot learn about these guys in public school?
Stuyvesant (public) high school, New York City: one semester of economics required, and we did indeed hear about these guys.
Rosehosting.com. I have a VPS with them. They charge the market rates, which seem to be pretty well defined. Everything has been excellent for the several years I've been using them: uptime, very rapid response to email, etc. I'm not very high volume, so don't know how that would be.
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How does the copyright prevent you from doing this? After all, the math obviously can't be copyrighted, just the particular form in which it is presented in the handbook, and whatever else is original there. So you can't reproduce a bunch of their graphs in your own book without permission, but certainly, for example, you could graph the functions themselves, or use them any way you wanted to.
What rights are these, and where do they come from? They are not legal rights, of course, as the assignment of copyright was done according to the law.
Does not follow. Should all the government's classified information be made public domain immediately because it was created with public money? Should members of the public be able to reproduce without attribution my scientific papers because the research was supported by tax dollars? I hope not. (This is what "public domain" means: far more than free access.) The online version of the handbook is free and provided in a convenient form. What would we gain if it were placed in the "public domain"?
No argument there; I just found their calender to be an instructive example. I have no idea how painful its creation was for their programmers.
I don't think so. Manhattan evolved haphazardly from the south; when they hit what's now Houston street they started to lay the roads out on a grid, more or less. Try to navigate my old neighborhood in southern Manhattan, or the warped spacetime of W. 4th St, and it will be much more confusing (and interesting).
As they suggest where? I looked around at the stix site, but it seems that I'll have to spend more time there to actually find out how to download the fonts. I saw a sugestion that I need to register as a beta tester to use them. Is this true?
Sorry, my previous attempt at submitting this comment had a paragraph chopped off
I recently tried out basically all the calendering programs available as native applications on OS X and linux that had a chance of being able to sync with the iphone calender (which can use a standard webdav protocol for syncing). I wound up settling on Google's calender, which is a web application (even though it has had its own issues). (I used remind, and its curses front-end wyrd, for years, but no caldav sync there.)
I found it amusing that this web app was prettier, more responsive, more intuitive, and more capable than any of the native applications that I had tried to use (well, maybe Apple's iCal is about as pretty). All the native applications were either too slow, too buggy, missing some essential feature, or some combination of these. Amusing, because people have had decades to try to come up with a decent calendar app, and here is Google stringing one together to run in a browser, and it's better, even in ways (responsiveness) that you wouldn't expect.
I recently tried out basically all the calendering programs available as native applications on OS X and linux that had a chance of being able to sync with the iphone calender (which can use a standard webdav protocol for syncing). I wound up settling on Google's calender, which is a web application (even though it has had its own issues). (I used remind, and its curses front-end wyrd, for years, but no caldav sync there.)
I don't use Internet Explorer. I said "Since this is this way most users will see this material [meaning, obviously, as PNG images, because most people can't see MathML) , it's a shame they didn't do a better job [at creating the PNG equations. Duh.]".
I did browse the site using Firefox, and the MathML rendering, while generally easier to read than the PNG version, has the usual problems, namely, poor typography and the occasional unavailable or incorrect character. The latter occurs frequently enough that I wouldn't bother to try to use the MathML version of the site, but would stick with the PNGs, bad as they are.
A great resource, easier to use than a heavy, giant book, and full of beautiful and useful graphs. However: web text with math mixed in as graphics can be done in a way that is pleasant enough to read, but NIST's pictorial mathematics is not optimal: the size of the symbols is not matched very well with the surrounding text and, because of extreme anti-aliasing, the contrast is very low. Since this is this way most users will see this material, it's a shame they didn't do a better job.
Yes: email. Most of what people use Facebook for can be accomplished better by sending emails to a list. If you want to get fancy, get a domain and put up a webpage.
That's interesting. Are they finally going to disclose their censorship of results in the US in response to demands from religious pressure groups? Or are they going to continue to pretend that this doesn't happen?
The evidence that it was G. Washington is 'An aide simply scrawled "president" next to the title to show who had taken them out'. This seems pretty weak to me. How do we know this means the President of the U.S.? Maybe it was the president of the library, or someone else entirely. The entry was intended to make sense to the library staff, not random other people 200 years later.
You need one more of these:
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I can dream.
Watch Six Degrees of Separation, from about 1993. I think this movie shows that he's actually a very talented actor who's been used as an action hero by some bad directors in movies with execrable scripts. If you think of Independence Day when you think if Will Smith, then this film (actually a filmed play, with a single set, if I recall correctly) will be a big surprise.
Is't it time for Apple to ban Yelp from the App Store?
If you have an iphone this might be useful.
I hadn't bothered to go beyond the article I linked in the summary. Interesting find, especially under the circumstances.
Are you serious? "dog's blood that was found both on him and at the attack site.[...]When they arrested Johnson nearby they found he was covered in blood[...]We did not have excellent ID evidence [suggesting that they had some id evidence, but did not want to rely on it excusively][...]The court heard another dog was also used in the attacks [meaning that there was testimony about the attack at the trial]
Yet another high-quality comment.
Not in the least. It is clear that there is a central database, and not just a laboratory comparison between two samples gathered as evidence. Is it really less painful to keep repeating your mistake rather than just owning up to it?
Before accusing the journalist of being clueless, try reading beyond the first few paragraphs. 'Detective Chief Inspector Mick Norman, who led the investigation, told The Times: "It was vitally important that we could put Johnson at the scene of the attack. We did not have excellent ID evidence and using the dog DNA database forensically unequivocally placed Johnson at the scene of the murder." The new dog DNA database came online just two-months before the murder in April last year, enabling statistical analysis to be given on samples for the first time...'
The story did not say he was convicted based solely on the DNA evidence. In fact, it's pretty clear that he was not.
You appear to be lying. The database is mentioned in the first paragraph.I'll never trust you again, anonymous.
Whoosh!
Did anyone on Slashdot learn about these guys in public school? Stuyvesant (public) high school, New York City: one semester of economics required, and we did indeed hear about these guys.
Rosehosting.com. I have a VPS with them. They charge the market rates, which seem to be pretty well defined. Everything has been excellent for the several years I've been using them: uptime, very rapid response to email, etc. I'm not very high volume, so don't know how that would be.