Except that darren's version doesn't have those
"OpenBSD special" patches any longer (except
those committed into ofcourse).
This _might_ even prevent compiling!
Yes, fully right, but...
Theo explicitly forbids distribution of the
_original_
CD-ISO-Images. He may do this because they are
copyrighted (by him).
You also can buy unofficial images for $5 or so
(as e.g. you can with debian, too).
But I decided to spend that money cuz I want to help that project.
funny word... i'm not sure it exists, but I'm
not English either.
No, such license can not be revoked from forked
versions, and when you look at the cvs link
above you see that the one in 2.9 _is_ forked
because it includes OBSD patches.
You _can_ start with the original code and make
OpenIPF, but the OWNER of his code still will be
reed. BUT the owner of the modifications (which
might be added by reed's _old_ license, I dont know
whether BSD license also can) will be e.g. deraadt.
There even was a guy who created a "email license agreement" and posted that IIRC here on/.
I'll now go and put some lines beyond my posts (not every but the more inportant) which leads (by URI) to _my_ license.
It is that _my_ license is compatible to the paragraph quoted but also says it _must_ be sublicensed under my license;)
For the interested:
http://members.tripod.de/mirabilos/pub/OWL_R2.AS C
type=text/plain; charset=ISO_646.irv:1991
CR-LF line endings, 2048 bytes.
OSI approval pending (but they're overloaded anyway)
IIRC the actual license cannot be changed for those
releases which you received under a different license
except this is stated. So a fork will appear.
(Or maybe more: OpenIPF, NetIPF, FreeIPF...;-)
But I'm no lawyer, so please don't take this
except for my 0.02 EUR
"I bought this software, and I'll use it any way I damn well please."
Actually, IIRC, you don't buy _the software_.
You buy _a License_ to the software.
You pay for the right to use. Because you can't use
it without having gotten the executables, you get
them too.
(Not a lawyer, not even English, but that's obvious)
I caint even back up all my data coz Windoze
erases half of them (everything not on a DOS,
Linux or OpenBSD partition) every few weeks.
FORMAT D: really is scheduled for me, and
sometimes I even caint rescue my windoze data...
I think of such laws that they violate anyone's
privacy (German Grundgesetz §10 for example).
They are not exactly identical except for the
DNS, which unfortunately also happens to be
true for clones.
The difference is, that cloning is an affront
to the psyche and there is nothing like an ego
in the clone, whereas two egos populate the
ovum at the time between joining of the sperm
and splitting. (Sorry for my bad English)
So where comes the ego of the clone from?
MSDN did NOT explain to me how to convert my
font (either plain binary or.psfu) to a
Windows raster font.
If you can tell me, I forget it. If not,...
someone shall install *BSD on MSDN;-)
Hey, it's not all linux on earth. Sure, Linux
is great, and OpenBSD is not 10% as simple to
use if you ever got into using linux. But I'll
give it a try, the new 2.9, to look whether I
can use it in server environment. Linux for the
desktop, Windoze for those games who I still
didn't get into WINE (namely Diablo1 StarCraft
BroodWar).
Every OS its purpose.
Don't take any OS over all - heck, for coding
I still use __DOS__;-)
Hey, order pre-installed OpenBSD or Linux.
Or do as I always do except for laptops,
and buy the parts bit by bit, and put them
together by yourself. So ya know _that_ it works.
I have never seen any currency more stable than
DEM except for CHF.
Since the US Bank refused to unlimitedly exchange
USD to gold and backwards for foreign banks,
the dollar went down more and more. This was in
1975 FYI.
And the DM of course had 200% of inflation in 51
years, but it even has performed way better than
the $.
Win98 I don't know, but for NT5 it works by:
- preparing to standby (similar, text: hibernate)
- stopping to schedule time to tasks
- sending kind of SIGSTANDBY to any driver
-> the driver saves state
- switching to sane environment (640x480x4)
- saving whole memory uncompressed to disk
- powering off
Reload:
- check for valid hibernation file
- load whole memory minus around 1-4 pages from
file, leaving out area in 1st MB for load-task
(is always reserved by kernel)
- regetting CPU state (LOADALL???)
- sending kind of SIGREINIT to any driver (start
with keyboard, vga, etc.)
-> driver gets old state and re-inits any card
* except ESS1371:-( (on my dual-PPro-200MMX
which btw neither has ACPI nor APM !!)
* but ESS1869 (laptop) works
* even PCMCIA and NE2000(ISA w/ jumper) network
- display->refresh();
- start to schedule tasks, BUT ask for login
(console unlock) first, just as my icewm does
on Ctrl-Alt-Del "Lock Workstation" (hey, win2k
contains parts of icewm...)
Usually NetBSD starts porting first, then other OS'
(including *BSD and Linux) developers take over
its code and set a bunch of developers onto it
in order to complete the progress.
In case of *BSD this doesn't matter.
In case of Linux, they have the f... GPL, so
NetBSD people (and *BSD in general) can NOT
profit from the Linux peoples' efforts, but THEY
"stole" NetBSDs code (perfectly legally).
IIRC Linux developers have begun to dual-license
their code: GPL for the kernel, BSD for *BSD.
I actually _have_ written both a.DLL in NASM
and a.EXE (console app) in C.
There is no need to include a kind of (linux)
kernel into a Win32 app, as NT (and even Win32s)
provides enough APIs to get everything working.
I use.DLL calls such as MessageBoxA and no
direct "kernel calls", as well as under Linux
i.d.R. I don't use INT &h80 but libc5 calls.
(Even under 2.4.* libc5 still works greatly!)
Windoze 2000 is actually NT OS/2 Version 5,
which is fully POSIX compliant
(D:/WINNT/SYSTEM32/POSIX.EXE exists, as a hint for you)
So you can do partial UN*X-like system on top of NT,
and NT's console (cmd.exe, not command.com) is
actually quite a useful tool.
And the other proggys in/bin/sbin and/usr/...
may be ported, too - even to DOS, cf. DjGpp
Don't answer...
I heavily dislike such ideas. And not every continent has 24/7 online times.
Try to get a German DSL-flat. I'll get children earlier...
Slashdot Mirror
Except that darren's version doesn't have those
"OpenBSD special" patches any longer (except
those committed into ofcourse).
This _might_ even prevent compiling!
--
Yes, fully right, but...
Theo explicitly forbids distribution of the
_original_
CD-ISO-Images. He may do this because they are
copyrighted (by him).
You also can buy unofficial images for $5 or so
(as e.g. you can with debian, too).
But I decided to spend that money cuz I want to help that project.
--
funny word... i'm not sure it exists, but I'm
not English either.
No, such license can not be revoked from forked
versions, and when you look at the cvs link
above you see that the one in 2.9 _is_ forked
because it includes OBSD patches.
You _can_ start with the original code and make
OpenIPF, but the OWNER of his code still will be
reed. BUT the owner of the modifications (which
might be added by reed's _old_ license, I dont know
whether BSD license also can) will be e.g. deraadt.
Just my 0.02 EUR
--
I remember this in hotmail... does it never end :(
/.
;)
S C
There even was a guy who created a "email license agreement" and posted that IIRC here on
I'll now go and put some lines beyond my posts (not every but the more inportant) which leads (by URI) to _my_ license.
It is that _my_ license is compatible to the paragraph quoted but also says it _must_ be sublicensed under my license
For the interested:
http://members.tripod.de/mirabilos/pub/OWL_R2.A
type=text/plain; charset=ISO_646.irv:1991
CR-LF line endings, 2048 bytes.
OSI approval pending (but they're overloaded anyway)
--
in my OpenBSD-Journal /box.
;-)
As I replied there:
IIRC the actual license cannot be changed for those
releases which you received under a different license
except this is stated. So a fork will appear.
(Or maybe more: OpenIPF, NetIPF, FreeIPF...
But I'm no lawyer, so please don't take this
except for my 0.02 EUR
--
"I bought this software, and I'll use it any way I damn well please."
Actually, IIRC, you don't buy _the software_.
You buy _a License_ to the software.
You pay for the right to use. Because you can't use
it without having gotten the executables, you get
them too.
(Not a lawyer, not even English, but that's obvious)
--
I caint even back up all my data coz Windoze
erases half of them (everything not on a DOS,
Linux or OpenBSD partition) every few weeks.
FORMAT D: really is scheduled for me, and
sometimes I even caint rescue my windoze data...
I think of such laws that they violate anyone's
privacy (German Grundgesetz §10 for example).
--
They are not exactly identical except for the
DNS, which unfortunately also happens to be
true for clones.
The difference is, that cloning is an affront
to the psyche and there is nothing like an ego
in the clone, whereas two egos populate the
ovum at the time between joining of the sperm
and splitting. (Sorry for my bad English)
So where comes the ego of the clone from?
--
Ups double-post: ISP faulty... T-Offline.de
--
Hey, NT 5 is POSIX compliant:
;-)
D:/WINNT/SYSTEM32/POSIX.EXE
(Just no-one can tell u how to use it
Guess it's so the gov't can use it because
of their standards etc...
--
Hey, NT 5 is POSIX compliant:
;-)
D:/WINNT/SYSTEM32/POSIX.EXE
(Just no-one can tell u how to use it
--
MSDN did NOT explain to me how to convert my .psfu) to a
...
;-)
font (either plain binary or
Windows raster font.
If you can tell me, I forget it. If not,
someone shall install *BSD on MSDN
--
Hey, it's not all linux on earth. Sure, Linux ;-)
is great, and OpenBSD is not 10% as simple to
use if you ever got into using linux. But I'll
give it a try, the new 2.9, to look whether I
can use it in server environment. Linux for the
desktop, Windoze for those games who I still
didn't get into WINE (namely Diablo1 StarCraft
BroodWar).
Every OS its purpose.
Don't take any OS over all - heck, for coding
I still use __DOS__
--
Hey, order pre-installed OpenBSD or Linux.
Or do as I always do except for laptops,
and buy the parts bit by bit, and put them
together by yourself. So ya know _that_ it works.
--
12" B/W at 640x480 in 16 bit greyscale :)
--
I have never seen any currency more stable than
DEM except for CHF.
Since the US Bank refused to unlimitedly exchange
USD to gold and backwards for foreign banks,
the dollar went down more and more. This was in
1975 FYI.
And the DM of course had 200% of inflation in 51
years, but it even has performed way better than
the $.
Just my 0.02 €
--
Win98 I don't know, but for NT5 it works by:
:-( (on my dual-PPro-200MMX
- preparing to standby (similar, text: hibernate)
- stopping to schedule time to tasks
- sending kind of SIGSTANDBY to any driver
-> the driver saves state
- switching to sane environment (640x480x4)
- saving whole memory uncompressed to disk
- powering off
Reload:
- check for valid hibernation file
- load whole memory minus around 1-4 pages from
file, leaving out area in 1st MB for load-task
(is always reserved by kernel)
- regetting CPU state (LOADALL???)
- sending kind of SIGREINIT to any driver (start
with keyboard, vga, etc.)
-> driver gets old state and re-inits any card
* except ESS1371
which btw neither has ACPI nor APM !!)
* but ESS1869 (laptop) works
* even PCMCIA and NE2000(ISA w/ jumper) network
- display->refresh();
- start to schedule tasks, BUT ask for login
(console unlock) first, just as my icewm does
on Ctrl-Alt-Del "Lock Workstation" (hey, win2k
contains parts of icewm...)
--
Usually NetBSD starts porting first, then other OS'
(including *BSD and Linux) developers take over
its code and set a bunch of developers onto it
in order to complete the progress.
In case of *BSD this doesn't matter.
In case of Linux, they have the f... GPL, so
NetBSD people (and *BSD in general) can NOT
profit from the Linux peoples' efforts, but THEY
"stole" NetBSDs code (perfectly legally).
IIRC Linux developers have begun to dual-license
their code: GPL for the kernel, BSD for *BSD.
--
I actually _have_ written both a .DLL in NASM
.EXE (console app) in C.
.DLL calls such as MessageBoxA and no
and a
There is no need to include a kind of (linux)
kernel into a Win32 app, as NT (and even Win32s)
provides enough APIs to get everything working.
I use
direct "kernel calls", as well as under Linux
i.d.R. I don't use INT &h80 but libc5 calls.
(Even under 2.4.* libc5 still works greatly!)
--
Windoze 2000 is actually NT OS/2 Version 5,
/bin /sbin and /usr/...
which is fully POSIX compliant
(D:/WINNT/SYSTEM32/POSIX.EXE exists, as a hint for you)
So you can do partial UN*X-like system on top of NT,
and NT's console (cmd.exe, not command.com) is
actually quite a useful tool.
And the other proggys in
may be ported, too - even to DOS, cf. DjGpp
--
joe, jstar for being exact ;-)
--
No wonder. They have to mirror it first, /.ed, the
;-)
and if the master mirror is
mirrors can't mirror
--
You could try the -ac series and the special updates posted in LKML regularily.
--
And who'd manage the namespace?
Don't answer...
I heavily dislike such ideas. And not every continent has 24/7 online times.
Try to get a German DSL-flat. I'll get children earlier...
--
Thats why i dont use ANY of them. openprojects.net is so small that I only had 3 netsplits in the last 1.5 years.
--