Sorry, but if my laptop is truly to be used in my LAP, then venting the heat out the sides still is a problem. I want it vented out the top of the monitor or something.
I have an old 300Mhz P3 laptop that had a terrible vent design that shoots out and hits your right inner thigh. It becomes unusable after about 30-45 minutes unless you have a pillow or jacket (which itself becomes pretty warm). Another 600Mhz P3 laptop from the same manufacturer got smart and vented it out the back of the laptop, slightly upward. I can use it for hours.
They would spin up and sound normal, but I couldn't get the BIOS on any of 3 machines to recognize them. I manually added their drive parameters and neither Linux nor WinNT would look at them (not even linux::fdisk or DOS::fdisk.exe).
After giving up on the data (not a big deal this time) I contacted the manufacturer (Seagate) and got the proper low-level formatting program for the drives. It wouldn't talk with either of them. The conclusion was that something had zapped both onboard controllers.
I could have paid a data repair company to try and swap the platters and/or controllers, but it wasn't worth the cost.
As has been mentioned before, it was an audio interview. Shatner didn't mispell a thing because he didn't type it... it was/. that mispelled (assuming they knew who he was talking about;)
Did your IDE setup have a decent UPS and power supply?
Yep... had a 1Kw UPS that still works well today and a good 350w PS (also still running 2 years later) that I bought to replace the crappy one that came with the tower a year before this happened. System load on the PS stays below 250w.
I had 4 other non-RAID IDE drives in the box when the 2 RAID drives fried, all were still working after the 2 RAID drives fried. 3 still run today (1 died of the clicking death last year).
BTW, I agree that backup would have solved my loss of the data on these 2 drives. I no longer do a ton of custom art or design so I don't bother anymore. I am still shocked that both drives got fried identically and simultaneously.
I ran an IDE RAID, one of the first, a few years ago. It was a 3ware RAID-1 controller. I thought it would be useful because I had gotten sick of losing data on a drive failure. I didn't have the money (or patience:) for a good backup solution and Linux RAID hadn't matured.
Everything was fine for awhile. After a few months I lost a drive, replaced a drive and it remirrored fine. Same thing happened a year or so later.
Then one day my controller fried. Nothing else in the system went down, but some kind of surge hit the 2 drives from the RAID controller. The controller still worked but neither drive was accessible, either as RAID drives or as single drives. Tried numerous tricks, eventually gave up.
I've run SCSI RAID in boxes I admin at work... never have I seen 2 drives go down simultaneously. Nor have I seen a controller malfunction in a way that damaged the drives (though I've heard of it from other people).
All in all, I decided it wasn't worth it. I am currently doing Linux mirroring in combination with journaling filesystems on one box, and Windows mirroring on another.
Agreed. If we cared as much about the lives of construction workers as we do astronauts, we would be taking ferries over every river in the country instead of driving on bridges or those bridges would cost 3 times what they cost now to build.
If a construction worker loses their life it is seen as contributing to progress, but dead astronauts in the line of duty is a tragedy that causes us to slow or halt progress.
NASA management may have been able to be better, but the real factor that would have helped streamline the project would have been a consistent position from Congress.
Every year that the ISS has been on the books it has had to fight for at least part of itself, and often for it's entire existence.
Most years, Congress has voted to trim the budget in some way or another, often causing some form of redesign. In truth, the cost of all of the redesigns has brought the true cost of the ISS up to what it would have been if they would have left it alone (and the result of leaving it alone would have been a much better space platform).
My family got stuck in some of the mess. My father was transferred from Wichita, KS to Huntsville, AL as part of BOEING's space station work. Before he had even been on site for 3 months his part of the station got chopped. He got moved into teaching ADA to other ISS programmers. A year later he changed positions again. 2 years later -that- part got chopped and my family (minus me this time) got transferred to Oklahoma City for another project at BOEING (which has been fairly stable since and has nothing to do with the ISS).
All of the morphing the project has gone through has far more to do with big, fluid government than it does NASA politics. I'm not saying I don't appreciate living in a republic/democracy/yadda, but it does have it's consequences.
Not to mention I still would have issues having a constant RF source strapped to my body. I've never seen a case of wrist cancer and I would really rather not be the first.
I love the idea of the convenience, but it isn't always worth the added risk. I know that cellphones have gotten better, but you're still talking about having a constantly transmitting high frequency radio source on your body for a significant amount of time each day.
In many ways this mirrors the story of Star Office. OpenOffice is a version that has proprietary code stripped (a couple fonts, some print drivers and ADAbas are the most obvious parts) while the commercial Star Office product still contains some code that can not be Open Sourced.
It's taking Sun years to replace the code that doesn't have an OS license. Unless you find it worth your time to rewrite lots of other peoples' code, I would suggest you either get the person who "opened" it for you to fix this or come to an alternate agreement with them.
but if you haven't read the book, why do you care about the movie?
Serious response... because I enjoy a good fantasy movie like anyone else but I have a huge backlog of books to read (I just consumed the Ender's quad in about 2 months of spare time reading) and I just don't see myself putting these books into the list.
The first movie by most accounts was pretty spot-on, so watching the movie in 2 hours saved me at least 2 hours for reading something else.
Plus, most of the books I do want to read will not be made into movies, and those that are maybe 5% will be good adaptations. If this series is getting those 5% adaptations, then it's that much more of a joy to watch.
I bought my wife the first 4 books in hardback for the holidays last year and while she loved the gift (and it was what she asked for), she hasn't had time to read them, either (though she reads less than I do).
I certainly don't see myself sitting at the airport with a large hardbound of Chamber of Secrets (and I'm not going to buy -2- copies of the book)... I get enough ridicule for going to see the movie at the theater when I waited to see Episode 1 (which was a far worse movie) on DVD:)
Hey, fine, at least they will have work a bit harder to get through. I just wish Yahoo! mail would support this as I use Yahoo! for a public address for a lot of lists.
Though, since I use it to prevent SPAM, if the statistical methods work well enough maybe I can quit using Yahoo!.
Either way... making SPAMbutts work harder is fine with me... it will make it harder to get through, which will increase workload, which should kill off alot of the people who currently SPAM. If AOL, MSN and Yahoo! all supported similar methods I think a large portion of the SPAMming population would die off shortly thereafter.
Umm, they already know they want Linux for the OS . They're hoping to now find an =application=. I would presume that if they have to take the time to reinvent it themselves, and they already have a working version on Windows, it may not be something that they have time to work on.
The assumption that TiVo as it is known now will go away is quite possibly true if my case is indicative. I do believe that the name "TiVo" will stick for awhile, and perhaps the company will make some money from selling it, but otherwise...
I bought a TiVo about 6 months ago. I'd known about them for a long time, but just didn't feel the features I wanted (HDTV/component signal primarily) were there so I kept waiting. I finally found a display model at Sears for $60 with 20 hour capacity and picked it up and hacked in a bigger drive.
I chose not to do a lifetime activation because I wasn't 100% sure I would keep this unit for long enough for it to be economical.
Turns out I was probably right... we moved to a small community not long ago that is serviced by an independent cable retailer. Most of the TiVo listings were off by 3 hours (pacific network schedules versus eastern network schedules).
I didn't think it would be that big of a deal, but TiVo only lets you get 3 channels adjusted at a time due to a limitation in their ticketing system. It's been 2+ months and I still have 2 channels left with bad schedules. Without a decent schedule, TiVo is almost worthless.
I investigated the satellite options and have decided to wait another 6-12 months. At that time it looks pretty solid that the satellite companies will have an HDTV PVR option. It might even be an option sooner but I'm not banking on it. At that point I will gladly give up my TiVo.
It's just not worth the bad quality recordings (which are more the fault of the local cable company, but suck nonetheless), missed programs (TiVo and the cable company are equally at fault here) and the inability to use my HDTV (again, equally both are at fault).
Once I have a PVR that is scheduled by the same company (satellite) that actually programs the broadcasts, I doubt I will have programming issues, either. Plus, it sounds like the satellite PVRs record the data stream directly meaning a virtually perfect recording.
We don't use more than 20-30 hours of recording unless we are heading out on vacation, so going HDTV should not dent my PVR storage as badly as the folks who archive lots of programs. Plus, more than half of the storage we use is for my wife's ancient Law & Order, ER and Trading Spaces, so maybe I won't mind more strict recording limitations;)
I love the idea of TiVo, and I don't -wish- them to go away, but in my case brand loyalty is nowhere near as big a force as all the detriments with the current model.
I used to live near the Intergraph home base (Huntsville, Alabama... and before someone goes "Alabama, no wonder", it's got a number of technical and scientific companies).
Intergraph's past has been like a smaller version of SGI, only with less flashy products (scientific workstations more so than graphics, although both did both). They started out as a proprietary systems company that did massive value adds to existing technology.
However, in the mid-90's they became more and more dependent on Microsoft and Intel to do alot of their work. As such they became less specialized but still higher cost.
In the mid-late-90's they had a number of blunders (including the now infamous Windows NT-commanded navy ship that went dead in the water due to software issues). They also fumbled on the emerging consumer PC 3D graphics card market... they were one of the early players there and could have kicked butt but it takes a lot of work to get into the consumer market from the high-end market (again, visions of SGI).
They still had high-end hardware... we ran what at the time was one of the largest NNTP servers for free at the ISP I was working at because we running it on Intergraph machines and they were using us as a stress-test (by the time I left in 1999 it had nearly a terabyte of storage in 3 * 12 drive RAID chassis)... but as part of the test it had to run Windows, which was not my favorite choice for NNTP).
I won't bad mouth them too much, I got a free dual PPro server and external 6 drive RAID case from one of the Intergraph admins who worked with us on the NNTP server. I loved that Beast.
Anyway... they made good products, but from what I've seen they have spiraled down alot since their heyday. I wouldn't be surprised if the Intel lawsuits (and this is by no means the first one Intergraph has filed) are a major source of cash for them.
Not as frustrating as it is when you're a very experienced user who provides more information than the maintainer ever expected and you still can't get their attention.
Maybe the company should put equal concern into keeping their employees healthy. I know that when I am constantly working in a static sub-65 degree room I tend to get colds frequently. I don't mind cold in spurts, in fact I love the cold outside, but not constant.
Petition for them to create a proper work environment for you if they won't raise the temperature. Working in the NOC sucks.
It would be more similar to going to a foreign country, downloading and installing a program that was not under copyright protection in that country (perhaps they don't recognize US copyright and require the copyright registered specifically in their country) and then coming to the US with that program still installed.
IANAL, but I believe that the US copyright holder can then sue you, assuming it's identical to the version that is distributed in the states.
I'm all for protecting the rights of the author, but I believe copyright law has gone way too far. In most cases the author has been dead for years and the copyright holder is a corporation or trust that has benefitted for a long time. Most cases where losing the copyright would severely damage the entity that owns it they -also- have a trademark on the relevant portions.
Bah humbug. This article gave people a chance to show what was good rather than relying on a Google search and hoping that what it returned was really quality merchandise.
Plus, I have looked on Google for similar searches and still not found everything that is suggested on a/. forum.
He had a valid question... I have one I keep wondering... if people don't think it's a worthwhile topic, why do they read it and take the time to post to it? It's much more effective if people just move on. An article with 0 replies will be the biggest hint to/. folks that they shouldn't have posted the article.
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Sorry, but if my laptop is truly to be used in my LAP, then venting the heat out the sides still is a problem. I want it vented out the top of the monitor or something.
I have an old 300Mhz P3 laptop that had a terrible vent design that shoots out and hits your right inner thigh. It becomes unusable after about 30-45 minutes unless you have a pillow or jacket (which itself becomes pretty warm). Another 600Mhz P3 laptop from the same manufacturer got smart and vented it out the back of the laptop, slightly upward. I can use it for hours.
They would spin up and sound normal, but I couldn't get the BIOS on any of 3 machines to recognize them. I manually added their drive parameters and neither Linux nor WinNT would look at them (not even linux::fdisk or DOS::fdisk.exe).
After giving up on the data (not a big deal this time) I contacted the manufacturer (Seagate) and got the proper low-level formatting program for the drives. It wouldn't talk with either of them. The conclusion was that something had zapped both onboard controllers.
I could have paid a data repair company to try and swap the platters and/or controllers, but it wasn't worth the cost.
Again, not a big deal, just an anecdote by now.
Sorry, was misinformed by a previous reply to the story then.
As has been mentioned before, it was an audio interview. Shatner didn't mispell a thing because he didn't type it ... it was /. that mispelled (assuming they knew who he was talking about ;)
Yep ... had a 1Kw UPS that still works well today and a good 350w PS (also still running 2 years later) that I bought to replace the crappy one that came with the tower a year before this happened. System load on the PS stays below 250w.
I had 4 other non-RAID IDE drives in the box when the 2 RAID drives fried, all were still working after the 2 RAID drives fried. 3 still run today (1 died of the clicking death last year).
BTW, I agree that backup would have solved my loss of the data on these 2 drives. I no longer do a ton of custom art or design so I don't bother anymore. I am still shocked that both drives got fried identically and simultaneously.
The poster asked for experiences ... he got them. What did you contribute?
I ran an IDE RAID, one of the first, a few years ago. It was a 3ware RAID-1 controller. I thought it would be useful because I had gotten sick of losing data on a drive failure. I didn't have the money (or patience :) for a good backup solution and Linux RAID hadn't matured.
... never have I seen 2 drives go down simultaneously. Nor have I seen a controller malfunction in a way that damaged the drives (though I've heard of it from other people).
Everything was fine for awhile. After a few months I lost a drive, replaced a drive and it remirrored fine. Same thing happened a year or so later.
Then one day my controller fried. Nothing else in the system went down, but some kind of surge hit the 2 drives from the RAID controller. The controller still worked but neither drive was accessible, either as RAID drives or as single drives. Tried numerous tricks, eventually gave up.
I've run SCSI RAID in boxes I admin at work
All in all, I decided it wasn't worth it. I am currently doing Linux mirroring in combination with journaling filesystems on one box, and Windows mirroring on another.
Maybe they should "go listen" and on that page you can ask them to "please donate". The reverse seems a bit strange.
Holographic? No. Progressive (similar to progressive JPEG)? Yes.
Agreed. If we cared as much about the lives of construction workers as we do astronauts, we would be taking ferries over every river in the country instead of driving on bridges or those bridges would cost 3 times what they cost now to build.
If a construction worker loses their life it is seen as contributing to progress, but dead astronauts in the line of duty is a tragedy that causes us to slow or halt progress.
NASA management may have been able to be better, but the real factor that would have helped streamline the project would have been a consistent position from Congress.
Every year that the ISS has been on the books it has had to fight for at least part of itself, and often for it's entire existence.
Most years, Congress has voted to trim the budget in some way or another, often causing some form of redesign. In truth, the cost of all of the redesigns has brought the true cost of the ISS up to what it would have been if they would have left it alone (and the result of leaving it alone would have been a much better space platform).
My family got stuck in some of the mess. My father was transferred from Wichita, KS to Huntsville, AL as part of BOEING's space station work. Before he had even been on site for 3 months his part of the station got chopped. He got moved into teaching ADA to other ISS programmers. A year later he changed positions again. 2 years later -that- part got chopped and my family (minus me this time) got transferred to Oklahoma City for another project at BOEING (which has been fairly stable since and has nothing to do with the ISS).
All of the morphing the project has gone through has far more to do with big, fluid government than it does NASA politics. I'm not saying I don't appreciate living in a republic/democracy/yadda, but it does have it's consequences.
Damnit, I let my mod points expire yesterday. Consider yourself modded +1 Insightful.
Not to mention I still would have issues having a constant RF source strapped to my body. I've never seen a case of wrist cancer and I would really rather not be the first.
I love the idea of the convenience, but it isn't always worth the added risk. I know that cellphones have gotten better, but you're still talking about having a constantly transmitting high frequency radio source on your body for a significant amount of time each day.
In many ways this mirrors the story of Star Office. OpenOffice is a version that has proprietary code stripped (a couple fonts, some print drivers and ADAbas are the most obvious parts) while the commercial Star Office product still contains some code that can not be Open Sourced.
It's taking Sun years to replace the code that doesn't have an OS license. Unless you find it worth your time to rewrite lots of other peoples' code, I would suggest you either get the person who "opened" it for you to fix this or come to an alternate agreement with them.
Serious response ... because I enjoy a good fantasy movie like anyone else but I have a huge backlog of books to read (I just consumed the Ender's quad in about 2 months of spare time reading) and I just don't see myself putting these books into the list.
The first movie by most accounts was pretty spot-on, so watching the movie in 2 hours saved me at least 2 hours for reading something else.
Plus, most of the books I do want to read will not be made into movies, and those that are maybe 5% will be good adaptations. If this series is getting those 5% adaptations, then it's that much more of a joy to watch.
I bought my wife the first 4 books in hardback for the holidays last year and while she loved the gift (and it was what she asked for), she hasn't had time to read them, either (though she reads less than I do).
I certainly don't see myself sitting at the airport with a large hardbound of Chamber of Secrets (and I'm not going to buy -2- copies of the book) ... I get enough ridicule for going to see the movie at the theater when I waited to see Episode 1 (which was a far worse movie) on DVD :)
Hey, fine, at least they will have work a bit harder to get through. I just wish Yahoo! mail would support this as I use Yahoo! for a public address for a lot of lists.
... making SPAMbutts work harder is fine with me ... it will make it harder to get through, which will increase workload, which should kill off alot of the people who currently SPAM. If AOL, MSN and Yahoo! all supported similar methods I think a large portion of the SPAMming population would die off shortly thereafter.
Though, since I use it to prevent SPAM, if the statistical methods work well enough maybe I can quit using Yahoo!.
Either way
Umm, they already know they want Linux for the OS . They're hoping to now find an =application=. I would presume that if they have to take the time to reinvent it themselves, and they already have a working version on Windows, it may not be something that they have time to work on.
The assumption that TiVo as it is known now will go away is quite possibly true if my case is indicative. I do believe that the name "TiVo" will stick for awhile, and perhaps the company will make some money from selling it, but otherwise ...
... we moved to a small community not long ago that is serviced by an independent cable retailer. Most of the TiVo listings were off by 3 hours (pacific network schedules versus eastern network schedules).
;)
I bought a TiVo about 6 months ago. I'd known about them for a long time, but just didn't feel the features I wanted (HDTV/component signal primarily) were there so I kept waiting. I finally found a display model at Sears for $60 with 20 hour capacity and picked it up and hacked in a bigger drive.
I chose not to do a lifetime activation because I wasn't 100% sure I would keep this unit for long enough for it to be economical.
Turns out I was probably right
I didn't think it would be that big of a deal, but TiVo only lets you get 3 channels adjusted at a time due to a limitation in their ticketing system. It's been 2+ months and I still have 2 channels left with bad schedules. Without a decent schedule, TiVo is almost worthless.
I investigated the satellite options and have decided to wait another 6-12 months. At that time it looks pretty solid that the satellite companies will have an HDTV PVR option. It might even be an option sooner but I'm not banking on it. At that point I will gladly give up my TiVo.
It's just not worth the bad quality recordings (which are more the fault of the local cable company, but suck nonetheless), missed programs (TiVo and the cable company are equally at fault here) and the inability to use my HDTV (again, equally both are at fault).
Once I have a PVR that is scheduled by the same company (satellite) that actually programs the broadcasts, I doubt I will have programming issues, either. Plus, it sounds like the satellite PVRs record the data stream directly meaning a virtually perfect recording.
We don't use more than 20-30 hours of recording unless we are heading out on vacation, so going HDTV should not dent my PVR storage as badly as the folks who archive lots of programs. Plus, more than half of the storage we use is for my wife's ancient Law & Order, ER and Trading Spaces, so maybe I won't mind more strict recording limitations
I love the idea of TiVo, and I don't -wish- them to go away, but in my case brand loyalty is nowhere near as big a force as all the detriments with the current model.
I used to live near the Intergraph home base (Huntsville, Alabama ... and before someone goes "Alabama, no wonder", it's got a number of technical and scientific companies).
... they were one of the early players there and could have kicked butt but it takes a lot of work to get into the consumer market from the high-end market (again, visions of SGI).
... we ran what at the time was one of the largest NNTP servers for free at the ISP I was working at because we running it on Intergraph machines and they were using us as a stress-test (by the time I left in 1999 it had nearly a terabyte of storage in 3 * 12 drive RAID chassis) ... but as part of the test it had to run Windows, which was not my favorite choice for NNTP).
... they made good products, but from what I've seen they have spiraled down alot since their heyday. I wouldn't be surprised if the Intel lawsuits (and this is by no means the first one Intergraph has filed) are a major source of cash for them.
Intergraph's past has been like a smaller version of SGI, only with less flashy products (scientific workstations more so than graphics, although both did both). They started out as a proprietary systems company that did massive value adds to existing technology.
However, in the mid-90's they became more and more dependent on Microsoft and Intel to do alot of their work. As such they became less specialized but still higher cost.
In the mid-late-90's they had a number of blunders (including the now infamous Windows NT-commanded navy ship that went dead in the water due to software issues). They also fumbled on the emerging consumer PC 3D graphics card market
They still had high-end hardware
I won't bad mouth them too much, I got a free dual PPro server and external 6 drive RAID case from one of the Intergraph admins who worked with us on the NNTP server. I loved that Beast.
Anyway
Not as frustrating as it is when you're a very experienced user who provides more information than the maintainer ever expected and you still can't get their attention.
Maybe the company should put equal concern into keeping their employees healthy. I know that when I am constantly working in a static sub-65 degree room I tend to get colds frequently. I don't mind cold in spurts, in fact I love the cold outside, but not constant.
Petition for them to create a proper work environment for you if they won't raise the temperature. Working in the NOC sucks.
... told the court that the government would not enforce the regulations against cryptographers working together at conferences.
... for now. But nothing changes the law if they don't enforce it ...
There's a law that can make it illegal, but the US DOJ says they won't enforce it in a specific circumstance.
Ok. Probably true
Get it in writing and signed. Better yet, try and get the law changed.
Complacency == Approval.
It would be more similar to going to a foreign country, downloading and installing a program that was not under copyright protection in that country (perhaps they don't recognize US copyright and require the copyright registered specifically in their country) and then coming to the US with that program still installed.
IANAL, but I believe that the US copyright holder can then sue you, assuming it's identical to the version that is distributed in the states.
I'm all for protecting the rights of the author, but I believe copyright law has gone way too far. In most cases the author has been dead for years and the copyright holder is a corporation or trust that has benefitted for a long time. Most cases where losing the copyright would severely damage the entity that owns it they -also- have a trademark on the relevant portions.
Bah humbug. This article gave people a chance to show what was good rather than relying on a Google search and hoping that what it returned was really quality merchandise.
/. forum.
... I have one I keep wondering ... if people don't think it's a worthwhile topic, why do they read it and take the time to post to it? It's much more effective if people just move on. An article with 0 replies will be the biggest hint to /. folks that they shouldn't have posted the article.
Plus, I have looked on Google for similar searches and still not found everything that is suggested on a
He had a valid question