AS someone who *was* trying to get a B2B business off-the-ground in Oz in the period 1995-2000 I concluded that the Govt's IT strategy & polies were so poor I voted with my feet.... I now work
in Hong Kong.
I believe there are a lot of others who feel the same way I do.
By about 1998 I had looked at trying to move by business to San Jose (where they had at the time a lot of schemes to assist new IT companies).
Singapore shines in our region as a country that has done all it can and more to foster IT entrepreneurial talent and interest. Singapore has been that way for years. The Australian govt in a general sense still thinks that IT might only be some new invention from Dean Kamen.
Cheers - Doug Marker
Hmmmm - I did realise you & your ilk were still alive.
I had though that in 1998/9 you and the others like you peddling this Redmond line line had all either been beaten to death, choked on your own froth (mouth froth) or just evaporated.
Redmond - you know, the ones who invented a basic interpreter that ran on 12Mhz x086 processors but still did the job and survived.
Java has you licked and you just don't or won't get it. Pls return to your grave & sleep in peace while we get on with life & the job done (with Java of course).
Cheers
DSM
"Oh goody, I always love discussing the merits of an OS with a salesman. "
I was not a salesman - nothing in my post implied that - but your conclusion appears to reflect the accuracy of your other comments.
Can I propose you speak your diatribe, but do so to a mirror so you can get a glimse of yourself as others would.
Cheers - Doug
Hi Stephen,
I won't judge the basis for your remarks but some years back I worked for IBM and my job in the 1990s was to diseminate AIX & Risc technology awareness throughout IBM in the Asia Pacific region. The funding was excellent, the support was from the top, the program involved sending 2 teams twice a year to all interested Asian countries. In these teams we hired US experts (non IBM) plus we got loaned IBM Unix experts from Austin, plus we included local specialists.
We did this for over 4 years and the program was a resounding success. My background in UNIX started in 1980. In 1983 was on the committee that founded the 1st official Unix usere's group outside the US. Have worked with nearly all flavours of UNIX including the infamous Microsoft developed version called XENIX.
Your comments just don't match my experience of IBM's AIX commitment. It is their commitment to Linux that is what will make the biggest difference against Microsoft. Is this what your beef is really about ???
Cheers - Doug Marker
I gathered together the below links as part of an exercise to convince my 'big org' that Linux is to be taken seriously. Just glancing at most of these links provides some compelling cases as to how far it has come and how committed everyone is from governments (France Japan China etc:) to most in the industry (except MS).
I like the clasifications shown at the top - also did my own.
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Some important/interesting press stories re Linux...
www.transmeta.com/ (Linus Torvalds works for Transmeta who developed a 128-bit Linux chip and who are getting IBM to produce it - press story follows)
www.zdtv.com/zdtv/zdtvnew...39,00.html
www.intel.com/pressroom/a...061500.htm
channel.intel.com/isp/cas...nuxone.htm
www.siebel.com/ (press rel re Java Clients on Linux)
www.pc.ibm.com/us/netfini...ather.html
www.starbase.com/index.htm ((was objectshare) ported to Linux)
www.rational.com/products...key=101279 (Rational ports to Linux)
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And for anyone interested in clustering and robust file systems, this Byte link is a great read - several articles written by an Israeli computer scientist who specialises in large scale computing.
www.byte.com/index/servinglinux
also (Motorola's Linux HA software)
www.mcg.mot.com/cfm/templ...ftwareID=6
also (another Linux HA system)
www.steeleye.com/
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Of course there are then the regular Linux links incl:-
www.valinux.com/
www.linuxcare.com/
www.linux.com/
www.linux.org/
www.linuxworld.com/
www.li.org/
www.linuxtoday.com/
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AS someone who *was* trying to get a B2B business off-the-ground in Oz in the period 1995-2000 I concluded that the Govt's IT strategy & polies were so poor I voted with my feet.... I now work in Hong Kong. I believe there are a lot of others who feel the same way I do. By about 1998 I had looked at trying to move by business to San Jose (where they had at the time a lot of schemes to assist new IT companies). Singapore shines in our region as a country that has done all it can and more to foster IT entrepreneurial talent and interest. Singapore has been that way for years. The Australian govt in a general sense still thinks that IT might only be some new invention from Dean Kamen. Cheers - Doug Marker
Hmmmm - I did realise you & your ilk were still alive. I had though that in 1998/9 you and the others like you peddling this Redmond line line had all either been beaten to death, choked on your own froth (mouth froth) or just evaporated. Redmond - you know, the ones who invented a basic interpreter that ran on 12Mhz x086 processors but still did the job and survived. Java has you licked and you just don't or won't get it. Pls return to your grave & sleep in peace while we get on with life & the job done (with Java of course). Cheers DSM
"Oh goody, I always love discussing the merits of an OS with a salesman. " I was not a salesman - nothing in my post implied that - but your conclusion appears to reflect the accuracy of your other comments. Can I propose you speak your diatribe, but do so to a mirror so you can get a glimse of yourself as others would. Cheers - Doug
Hi Stephen, I won't judge the basis for your remarks but some years back I worked for IBM and my job in the 1990s was to diseminate AIX & Risc technology awareness throughout IBM in the Asia Pacific region. The funding was excellent, the support was from the top, the program involved sending 2 teams twice a year to all interested Asian countries. In these teams we hired US experts (non IBM) plus we got loaned IBM Unix experts from Austin, plus we included local specialists. We did this for over 4 years and the program was a resounding success. My background in UNIX started in 1980. In 1983 was on the committee that founded the 1st official Unix usere's group outside the US. Have worked with nearly all flavours of UNIX including the infamous Microsoft developed version called XENIX. Your comments just don't match my experience of IBM's AIX commitment. It is their commitment to Linux that is what will make the biggest difference against Microsoft. Is this what your beef is really about ??? Cheers - Doug Marker
I like the clasifications shown at the top - also did my own.
Hope these provide some help......
www.ibm.com/linux
www.oracle.com/linux
www.compaq.com/linux
www.hp.com/linux
www.dell.com/linux
www.sun.com/linux
www.sap.com/linux
www.motorola.com/linux
www.borland.com/linux
www.informix.com/linux
www.sybase.com/linux
www.corel.com/linux
www.beasys.com/linux (Tuxedo & Weblogic on Linux)
www.ora.com/linux (O'Reilly & Associates)
www.sco.com/linux
www.siemens.com/linux
www.siemens.de/sap/loesungen/linux_en.html
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Some important/interesting press stories re Linux
www.transmeta.com/ (Linus Torvalds works for Transmeta who developed a 128-bit Linux chip and who are getting IBM to produce it - press story follows)
www.zdtv.com/zdtv/zdtvnew...39,00.html
www.intel.com/pressroom/a...061500.htm
channel.intel.com/isp/cas...nuxone.htm
www.siebel.com/ (press rel re Java Clients on Linux)
www.pc.ibm.com/us/netfini...ather.html
www.starbase.com/index.htm ((was objectshare)
ported to Linux)
www.rational.com/products...key=101279 (Rational ports to Linux)
********************
And for anyone interested in clustering and robust file systems, this Byte link is a great read - several articles written by an Israeli computer scientist who specialises in large scale computing.
www.byte.com/index/servinglinux
also (Motorola's Linux HA software)
www.mcg.mot.com/cfm/templ...ftwareID=6
also (another Linux HA system)
www.steeleye.com/
******************** :-
Of course there are then the regular Linux links incl
www.valinux.com/
www.linuxcare.com/
www.linux.com/
www.linux.org/
www.linuxworld.com/
www.li.org/
www.linuxtoday.com/
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http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/specials/1998/10/linux _lounge/
http://www.mcg.mot.com/cfm/templates/linux.cfm?Pag eID=711