To top it all off, Google is doing a better job fighting the problem
How do you figure that, twitter? You're linking to the story that details the problem, but did you find the one with the solution? Or are you implying that Microsoft never did anything about it, but Google did?
Of course, I love this part from that article, in the usual Register style:
A Microsoft representative says in a statement that "to the extent that spammers are successful in essentially manipulating results, they will hurt the user experience on all search engines".
That left us scratching our heads for a couple reasons. For one, the same search terms don't appear to generate malicious returns on Google or Yahoo!, so how can the rep claim this is an industry-wide problem? And for another, what does spam have to do with this? We're wondering if our inquiry got mixed up with someone else's.
Emphasis mine. Would you like some ketchup with your crow? I'd bet good money you made the same point when this first happened to Live.com.
Just like now you're trying to deflect criticism of Google by pointing out how "M$ is teh worse". You always claim Microsoft pays people to astroturf Slashdot and stalk you. Are you in Google's payroll? It sure seems that way. Why go to all this trouble otherwise?
Everything you said is true. Linux is a perfectly capable platform. I'm glad people have choices now where before there weren't many. OS X and Linux are good counterweights to the Windows domination of the desktop.
This whole thing started because you essentially claimed anyone who runs Windows is an idiot. I took offense at that. I'm knowledgeable enough to use Linux or OS X if I wanted to (hell, I can still install Debian), but I don't. Primarily, I run Windows. It does everything I need it to do. I like it. I enjoy using it as much as you probably enjoy using Linux.
That's my choice. You can slam it all you want, but it doesn't really matter. I've wised up to that "any color you want as long as it's black" and "join us or die" attitudes I see with people like you. I don't have a problem with people who use other OSes. It's not a religious issue to me.
This goes for nearly EVERY niggling complaint I've ever heard from a PC user about Macs...."Why doesn't this thing do it like Windows???"...um, because it is decidedly NOT Windows.
"Why doesn't this thing do it like [OS X|Linux|Amiga]?" Because it's Windows.
Free software is dying a little bit every day because of people like you. Fortunately, you're still a minority.
They sabotage BIOS,
Just because your FUD slides off your recent comment history doesn't mean you should be able to keep spreading the same FUD and use it as bullet points to prop up your "evangelization" or whatever it is you call what you do here.
Other than that, I'd recommend as usual to you and every other person claiming this is some backhanded deal with "M$" to run "Windoze" on the OLPC to prove that Negroponte is getting bribes or whatever from Bill Gates himself. Please.
BTW, astroturfing your own modded-down comments and bemoaning the fact that people think you're a pointless troll is not going to help you much. What you need to do is stop trolling.
DRM is wrong because it places enforcement of copyrights into the hands of the content and distribution owners instead of the people who should be doing it under due process.
Why don't they just say that? Stupid phrases like "criminalizes the consumer for wanting to use what they have purchased" are besides the point.
Proof, flocktard. You were asked for proof. Semantic nitpicking of your own posts doesn't count. Prove that the contents of that WP entry are provided by "M$". Go ahead, we're all waiting. Just like those inexistent Linux botnets, the lawsuits that "destroyed" the Zaurus, your "job" at a "Fortune 100" company and all our other FUD.
Yeah, I'm sure this is Windows' fault. Because I've never seen a successfull application like this one (sans the Citrix shit) running on Windows. And I've certainly never seen an application being fucked up on UNIX. So therefore the fact that this thing is broken cannot possibly be the result of bad decisions, bad design, bad management, etc. Let's blame "Uncle Bill's broken OS", because it's fashionable and gets us lots of karma on Slashdork.
The first step in regaining control of your culture and rights is to reject non free software.
Evangelizing again?
It is all the more outrageous that this violation of your security and free speech is being done on behalf of companies engaged in a reign of terror, where suspected copyright infringers are threatened with the loss of their life savings and livelyhoods.
I don't know why twitter, but I always think of this when I read these posts of yours.
Oh yeah, like Gnome and KDE are so stagnant and the commercial vendors have better polish.
Why does Ubuntu ship with a set of default window decorations identical to Vista?
Get real, only Sun has managed virtual desktops yet.
I have no idea what that means.
Mac is intersting but the free desktops just blow it away.
ROFL
...Enlightenment...
Yeah, the MasterMenu model is doing great. Is E out of alpha yet?
The above is a pathetic variant
"I don't like your opinions and I can't argue intelligently, so I'll just go ad hominem on your ass. It's the only thing I know"
compare the experience of installing Mepis to Vista, XP or OSX... The collapse of Vista sales is going to force Dell and others to ship gnu/linux and that will be the end of M$
Guess what? Microsoft has a pretty good development suite on their hands. To be honest, C# is largely what I'd do if I could rewrite Java from scratch with no concerns for backward compatibility. It has a couple of really cool features, like the virtual, override and new keywords that let you specify what should happen when you cast a class to it's base class and then call a method on it that's defined in both.
Guess what? We all know that. We've tried Eclipse and KDevelop and Glade all your other tools. You have pretty cool languages but you insist on keeping your barriers artificially high by forcing a primitive toolset on everyone so that only the anointed few can develop software for your platform.
Of course one of the core problems is someone like this, who from the article seems like the quintessential "Microsoft sux" type-A personality suddenly realizes that Microsoft (and Borland and others) have been writing far superior development tools for the past ten years that actually increase developer productivity and having great success at it. What an idea! Having to learn 14 different tools to get something done might be good for bragging and leetness, but they kill productivity. In the real world, that kills the deal.
Imagine what kind of killer product you would have if you paired Ruby with a good IDE and a good graphical debugger. Or Python. A good front-end to MySQL that's actually easy to use. Or an admin tool for Apache that makes sense. But "ease of use" is not "leet", so no dice. "We don't want VB in Linux". That's a great attitude, and it will continue to perpetuate the idea that Windows is the only "easy" platform to write software in, with Microsoft tools. There's no reality distortion field here - that's just the truth.
So much potential wasted because of a culture that idolizes unecessary complexity as if it were a badge of honor.
M$ and other US companies would like to shut down or tax every other software company on Earth.
I hate to break it to you, troll, but "M$" is getting nailed by the very system you claim they enjoy. Ever heard of Eolas? I'd really appreciate it if you showed us a single instance of Microsoft (oh, "M$") using a patent offensively. That does not include FAT32, which is about as common a licensing scheme as it comes in the hardware world.
Microsoft plays the game the same way IBM and everyoneelsedoes to protect themselves from the patent trolls. The system is broken. Constantly harping on why "M$ is teh bad" like Stallman is not going to help much.
A windows user would not understand, so I'll explain carefully.
Listen closely here. Even a Open Sores Linsux user ("M$ Windoze, LOL") should be able to grok this. Microsoft wrote the ACPI spec to move the functionality out of hardware because systems were becoming too complicated for APM to work. They invested the money on the spec, and they gave their developers the tools to interop with the Windows ACPI implementation. Microsoft is in no way shape or form obligated to give you or anyone else free beer. But, they opened the spec up, which is why you have ACPI on Linux. Follow me so far?
Now, ACPI is not "buggy", it's flaky because it has to account for a shitload of things that the BIOS was supposed to do. So, it works great on some hardware and not so great with other hardware. That's why you can get a vendor-specific DSDT and load it up so that whatever kernel you're using will function correctly. Hell, you can download your own DSDT here if you can be bothered enough. With Windows, Dell and HP and IBM and Acer provide their own. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they don't.
This infantile conspiracy theory about how "M$" wants to make ACPI fail just for shits and giggles is, like all your other conspiracy theories, more a result of your "evangelize or die" mindset than actual reality. So far you've proved exactly squat, and I don't really expect that to change. The same old sad story, eh?
Now go see if Vista can do the same yet
Oh, thanks. I thought you were going to wanker off with a link to "BadVista.org". Small mercies and all that.
I guess I'm not quite understanding what the "situation" is.
This is the original post, which said "That's great for Windows users, but what about Linux" in a nutshell.
Then you jumped right in with that inimitable panache of yours, claiming ACPI doesn't work on Linux because of something Bill Gates did, while of course taking the time to use your favorite expletives and super-clever creative spelling.
As proof that Bill Gates somehow "sabotaged" ACPI on Linux, you linked to this email, which proves absolutely nothing you've claimed so far.
You have an eight-year old email from Bill Gates wondering whether they should try to prevent everyone from leeching their R&D investment on ACPI (no doubt you think developing software is a zero sum game, but it's not. Someone paid for all that groovy software in your Gentoo boxen), and so far you have provided no proof whatsoever that said email actually ended up causing ACPI to be limited or damaged or "sabotaged" in any way shape or form by Microsoft. None whatsoever, period.
To repeat myself, ACPI is an open standard, of which at least one implementation exists for Linux and FreeBSD. So what is this "situation" you are referring to? Aside from your usual "FUD with a link" recipe that tends to fool the Slashdot moderators, how are you rationalizing that Microsoft "screwed" power management on Linux? By releasing ACPI and screwing themselves over as well?
Seriously, your "if you don't see things in the same glorious black and white as me I can't help you" responses are not going to do it. You need to specify what this "situation" with Linux power management is and why Microsoft caused it.
Attacking North Korea would essentially destroy South Korea as a functional nation because the moment the first Marine walks past the DMZ, the DPRK is going to open up on Seoul with long-range artillery and basically blow it to hell and back. They've had a sort of Mexican standoff there for a very long time. Most armchair policy wankers don't know this, obviously. The fact that the DPRK has a few nukes is militarily irrelevant, trust me. They can't even lob them past their territorial waters, never mind into Japan.
The very people who have the most to fear from North Korea are the ones who simply will not allow a preemptive attack on North Korea. Each situation and threat is different. Each is managed in different ways. I realize it's always nice to simplify your arguments, but this retarded "well how come you don't invade North Korea" thing really gets old after a while. You should really stop using it.
What, that there will be one more country free from the threat of US invasion.
Unfortunately for this particular argument, Iran did not start working on a nuclear weapon in March of 2003. The assertion that poor little Iran started working on their own nukes as a response to the invasion of Iraq is, to put it mildly, bullshit. They've been working on that for decades.
More to the point, the "we have nukes so you can't invade us, nyah" argument tends to dissolve if you consider that even a bunch of wacked up religious fanatics like the people who run Iran will eventually realize that using an atomic weapon would be the equivalent to comitting national suicide. The amount of damage they would be able to do would be limited at best, and their country would be turned into a sea of shiny smooth radioactive glass.
For almost five decades, the United States planned on fighting a limited tactical nuclear engagement in Germany. Against 28 motorized rifle and armored divisions of the fucking Red Army. How long do you figure the super-duper "Revolutionary Guards" would last down there with their toy Hiroshima-scale bombs, the complete inability to manuever anything larger than a division and no air superiority? About a week or so?
I really hope to hell nothing like that happens, ever. But if it does, that's exactly what will happen. And that's assuming Israel doesn't get to them first.
Slashdot Mirror
An unpatched crappy browser.
To top it all off, Google is doing a better job fighting the problem
How do you figure that, twitter? You're linking to the story that details the problem, but did you find the one with the solution? Or are you implying that Microsoft never did anything about it, but Google did?
Of course, I love this part from that article, in the usual Register style:
Emphasis mine. Would you like some ketchup with your crow? I'd bet good money you made the same point when this first happened to Live.com.
Just like now you're trying to deflect criticism of Google by pointing out how "M$ is teh worse". You always claim Microsoft pays people to astroturf Slashdot and stalk you. Are you in Google's payroll? It sure seems that way. Why go to all this trouble otherwise?
http://slashdot.org/~twitter
Yes, it's a slam if you only report half the issue.
So that's a bit like talking about botnets and your desperate denial of the existence of Linux botnets with tens of thousands of machines?
The unmentioned root cause of the issue is a crappy browser
They don't have to "mention it", because the root cause is an unpatched crappy browser. Quite a different thing.
This whole thing started because you essentially claimed anyone who runs Windows is an idiot. I took offense at that. I'm knowledgeable enough to use Linux or OS X if I wanted to (hell, I can still install Debian), but I don't. Primarily, I run Windows. It does everything I need it to do. I like it. I enjoy using it as much as you probably enjoy using Linux.
That's my choice. You can slam it all you want, but it doesn't really matter. I've wised up to that "any color you want as long as it's black" and "join us or die" attitudes I see with people like you. I don't have a problem with people who use other OSes. It's not a religious issue to me.
How's that for cold water on this Google slam?
So reporting an issue is a "slam" now? That is, unless it's about "M$", right?
"This is bad, but look over here, some more bad stuff and creative spelling!!"
I bet you're a big fan of Faux News.
"Why doesn't this thing do it like [OS X|Linux|Amiga]?" Because it's Windows.
Hi twitter. Are you done shilling your own posts and replying to yourself because you get modded down?
Free software is dying a little bit every day because of people like you. Fortunately, you're still a minority.
They sabotage BIOS,
Just because your FUD slides off your recent comment history doesn't mean you should be able to keep spreading the same FUD and use it as bullet points to prop up your "evangelization" or whatever it is you call what you do here.
Other than that, I'd recommend as usual to you and every other person claiming this is some backhanded deal with "M$" to run "Windoze" on the OLPC to prove that Negroponte is getting bribes or whatever from Bill Gates himself. Please.
BTW, astroturfing your own modded-down comments and bemoaning the fact that people think you're a pointless troll is not going to help you much. What you need to do is stop trolling.
Why don't they just say that? Stupid phrases like "criminalizes the consumer for wanting to use what they have purchased" are besides the point.
Proof, flocktard. You were asked for proof. Semantic nitpicking of your own posts doesn't count. Prove that the contents of that WP entry are provided by "M$". Go ahead, we're all waiting. Just like those inexistent Linux botnets, the lawsuits that "destroyed" the Zaurus, your "job" at a "Fortune 100" company and all our other FUD.
As long as it's not Windows. Yes, I get it.
Yes you are. That's the overriding theme of your posts in this article so far, and that's your problem.
Or perhaps the problem is that you actually can't see that. I wouldn't be surprised.
Yeah, I'm sure this is Windows' fault. Because I've never seen a successfull application like this one (sans the Citrix shit) running on Windows. And I've certainly never seen an application being fucked up on UNIX. So therefore the fact that this thing is broken cannot possibly be the result of bad decisions, bad design, bad management, etc. Let's blame "Uncle Bill's broken OS", because it's fashionable and gets us lots of karma on Slashdork.
Well, now we know what you do with your free time. Thanks for sharing.
I've read the constitution, thanks.
The first step in regaining control of your culture and rights is to reject non free software.
Evangelizing again?
It is all the more outrageous that this violation of your security and free speech is being done on behalf of companies engaged in a reign of terror, where suspected copyright infringers are threatened with the loss of their life savings and livelyhoods.
I don't know why twitter, but I always think of this when I read these posts of yours.
Do you seriously want to know the answer to that? I mean, either way...
Yes, terribly offensive. Any idea when I might see some evidence that "M$" took someone to court over a patent? I'll be waiting.
Why does Ubuntu ship with a set of default window decorations identical to Vista?
Get real, only Sun has managed virtual desktops yet.
I have no idea what that means.
Mac is intersting but the free desktops just blow it away.
ROFL
Yeah, the MasterMenu model is doing great. Is E out of alpha yet?
The above is a pathetic variant
"I don't like your opinions and I can't argue intelligently, so I'll just go ad hominem on your ass. It's the only thing I know"
compare the experience of installing Mepis to Vista, XP or OSX ... The collapse of Vista sales is going to force Dell and others to ship gnu/linux and that will be the end of M$
Amusing as always.
Guess what? We all know that. We've tried Eclipse and KDevelop and Glade all your other tools. You have pretty cool languages but you insist on keeping your barriers artificially high by forcing a primitive toolset on everyone so that only the anointed few can develop software for your platform.
Of course one of the core problems is someone like this, who from the article seems like the quintessential "Microsoft sux" type-A personality suddenly realizes that Microsoft (and Borland and others) have been writing far superior development tools for the past ten years that actually increase developer productivity and having great success at it. What an idea! Having to learn 14 different tools to get something done might be good for bragging and leetness, but they kill productivity. In the real world, that kills the deal.
Imagine what kind of killer product you would have if you paired Ruby with a good IDE and a good graphical debugger. Or Python. A good front-end to MySQL that's actually easy to use. Or an admin tool for Apache that makes sense. But "ease of use" is not "leet", so no dice. "We don't want VB in Linux". That's a great attitude, and it will continue to perpetuate the idea that Windows is the only "easy" platform to write software in, with Microsoft tools. There's no reality distortion field here - that's just the truth.
So much potential wasted because of a culture that idolizes unecessary complexity as if it were a badge of honor.
I hate to break it to you, troll, but "M$" is getting nailed by the very system you claim they enjoy. Ever heard of Eolas? I'd really appreciate it if you showed us a single instance of Microsoft (oh, "M$") using a patent offensively. That does not include FAT32, which is about as common a licensing scheme as it comes in the hardware world.
Microsoft plays the game the same way IBM and everyone else does to protect themselves from the patent trolls. The system is broken. Constantly harping on why "M$ is teh bad" like Stallman is not going to help much.
Oh, Iran. definitely.
Thanks for playing.
Listen closely here. Even a Open Sores Linsux user ("M$ Windoze, LOL") should be able to grok this. Microsoft wrote the ACPI spec to move the functionality out of hardware because systems were becoming too complicated for APM to work. They invested the money on the spec, and they gave their developers the tools to interop with the Windows ACPI implementation. Microsoft is in no way shape or form obligated to give you or anyone else free beer. But, they opened the spec up, which is why you have ACPI on Linux. Follow me so far?
Now, ACPI is not "buggy", it's flaky because it has to account for a shitload of things that the BIOS was supposed to do. So, it works great on some hardware and not so great with other hardware. That's why you can get a vendor-specific DSDT and load it up so that whatever kernel you're using will function correctly. Hell, you can download your own DSDT here if you can be bothered enough. With Windows, Dell and HP and IBM and Acer provide their own. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they don't.
This infantile conspiracy theory about how "M$" wants to make ACPI fail just for shits and giggles is, like all your other conspiracy theories, more a result of your "evangelize or die" mindset than actual reality. So far you've proved exactly squat, and I don't really expect that to change. The same old sad story, eh?
Now go see if Vista can do the same yet
Oh, thanks. I thought you were going to wanker off with a link to "BadVista.org". Small mercies and all that.
You have an eight-year old email from Bill Gates wondering whether they should try to prevent everyone from leeching their R&D investment on ACPI (no doubt you think developing software is a zero sum game, but it's not. Someone paid for all that groovy software in your Gentoo boxen), and so far you have provided no proof whatsoever that said email actually ended up causing ACPI to be limited or damaged or "sabotaged" in any way shape or form by Microsoft. None whatsoever, period.
To repeat myself, ACPI is an open standard, of which at least one implementation exists for Linux and FreeBSD. So what is this "situation" you are referring to? Aside from your usual "FUD with a link" recipe that tends to fool the Slashdot moderators, how are you rationalizing that Microsoft "screwed" power management on Linux? By releasing ACPI and screwing themselves over as well?
Seriously, your "if you don't see things in the same glorious black and white as me I can't help you" responses are not going to do it. You need to specify what this "situation" with Linux power management is and why Microsoft caused it.
You show me one of their leaders who is actually willing to blow himself up and we'll chat.
The term "decapitation strike" takes on a whole new meaning when there's a 275kt nuke involved.
The very people who have the most to fear from North Korea are the ones who simply will not allow a preemptive attack on North Korea. Each situation and threat is different. Each is managed in different ways. I realize it's always nice to simplify your arguments, but this retarded "well how come you don't invade North Korea" thing really gets old after a while. You should really stop using it.
Unfortunately for this particular argument, Iran did not start working on a nuclear weapon in March of 2003. The assertion that poor little Iran started working on their own nukes as a response to the invasion of Iraq is, to put it mildly, bullshit. They've been working on that for decades.
More to the point, the "we have nukes so you can't invade us, nyah" argument tends to dissolve if you consider that even a bunch of wacked up religious fanatics like the people who run Iran will eventually realize that using an atomic weapon would be the equivalent to comitting national suicide. The amount of damage they would be able to do would be limited at best, and their country would be turned into a sea of shiny smooth radioactive glass.
For almost five decades, the United States planned on fighting a limited tactical nuclear engagement in Germany. Against 28 motorized rifle and armored divisions of the fucking Red Army. How long do you figure the super-duper "Revolutionary Guards" would last down there with their toy Hiroshima-scale bombs, the complete inability to manuever anything larger than a division and no air superiority? About a week or so?
I really hope to hell nothing like that happens, ever. But if it does, that's exactly what will happen. And that's assuming Israel doesn't get to them first.