Perl on windows is the only way to tame that ugly beast. I use scripts based on the ORA book "ntws management", and they finally bring some manageability to the platform. Using the scheduler, you can run self maintaining "stub" scripts that simply grab a task list, check for updates, and then run. Perls strengths on win32 are registry hacking, and unc support. I support 40 workstations (not much) with 75 engineering applications on each one (whoah!), and rarely have to visit them. It has, quite simply, freed me from the drudgery of windows maintenance.
The games have had a history of this kind of grossness and manipulation as a political statement for as long as I can remember (which is only around 30 years), but, at the end of the day, it's the athletes I'm interested in. Hey, the whole world is being bought up and paid for by corporate sponsorship, refusing to watch the olympics on tv then claiming it's activism is laughable. The athletes who want to keep an online diary should just do so, and make a statement, I doubt they'll be many of them tho'.
Seems like just a few days ago I was reading here about the contempt for Lotus' old look and feel lawsuit. Web layout *is* public domain, kudos to the guy for seeing something that worked, and adopting it. Hey, isn't that CODE RE-USE????!!! I grabbed his dancing penguin gif (too bad it's a gif), and will have no qualms about using it.
I contacted HP direct on this issue once (I buy all HP equipment), and they told me there is not and never will be a jetdirect software for Linux. However, as many have pointed out, you can just go straight in with lpd and it will work (had plenty of problems with non-postscript print queues on RedHat tho'....)
Yeah, there are "lots" of individuals who illegally copy M$ stuff, but it's a question of scale; in general, the larger the number of seats, the less "piracy" becomes an issue. I have friends who admin 1000 seat installs of 9x/office, and every copy is legit. I have other friends who are strictly forbidden from introducing any kind of s/w that has not been through the licensing co-ordination. In smaller companies there's less tendency to pay for all the copies. In the home, even less so. But how many homes and small businesses do you have to go through to equal a 1000 seat loss? It's small potatoes. However, though I read your initial statement incorrectly, I stand by my comment that those who illegally copy M$ software are causing more damage than good. Right now, the only commercial s/w I use is: Sound Forge, Visual Age for Java, Office 200, and AutoCAD. They're all paid for, and you know what? The most expensive, AutoCAD, is a true piece of buggy, flaky, messed up shit. Would I pirate it? hell no! I still get my moneys worth out of it (you have to be pretty damn good with AutoCAD to recover $2700).
I use and pay for Microsoft and other commercial software. If I can't afford it, or there's a better choice in Free Software, I use that. If you can't afford a car, or don't want to pay for one, are you claiming you should be able to steal it? What kind of fucked up logic is that? On the down side, turds like you who continue to spread the use of Microsoft, albeit illegally, do more damage than any other group. If you're not part of the solution....
I've done some work with Hangul for our Korean employees, and though its somewhat straightforward, the problem is that pages become "binary", so you have to treat them like images, even though when you load 'em up in emacs they're not, and it handles it. Having said that, it's still a bunch of fun dealing with different character sets.
Excellent, I thought, I'll just grab the nightly and check it out, I'm about due for a new one (two weeks). Man, if this is your idea of an attractive GUI layout..... this looks like some gifs someone slapped together 'cos they ran out of time!
The milestones have always seemed buggy crap to me, but the nightly builds are usually good. I'm running M18, and have been for a while, though some of the "add-ons" don't work. The only thing that pisses me off, is lack of Java support on Linux. I use applets on a daily basis, and Mozilla can't run 'em. At this stage in the game, why the hell not? I ask....
Just what is the problem with getting a JVM into Mozilla on Linux. The rest of it is pretty pleasant (at least, the nightly builds are), and I can understand the lack of encryption, but no JVM? C'mon, I switched all my stuff to css, and it renders wonderfully in ie on windows and m17 on Linux, but I have to dip back into communicator if I want to visit anything with an applet. Bah!
Both these applications produce diabolical HTML, and I'm beginning to think it's to make the pages gag browsers that stick to the standard, while ie happily chugs 'em down. Lets face it, we got into this mess by avoiding adherence to the standards. Don't think it will get any better by continuing down that path. The solution is cold turkey - real html (which leads to real XML) only, let M$ and their bullshit sloppiness come back and bite them!
Why install some crap? You could visit the NT FAQ and get a registry hack for this one. The day I can run AutoCAD on Linux and there's consistency across the entire application range is the day windoze disappears from 500 desktops in our company....
Wrong. I have pdf reference docs on specific Netserver configuration parameters for Linux. Install docs for Linux. They don't pre-install it, but they do give you a combo that's known to work, and you don't buy an NT license by default. They also support hardware questions for Linux installs (NetRaid, NIC, etc.). Check out the OS tables for the Netserver line a little harder, you'll see it.
Logistics may be the culprit here - based on your location. My folks live in Australia, and it took them 6 weeks to buy a mattress (had to be ordered from the factory), the stores close on saturday (even grocery stores). It sounds like IBM dropped the ball, but quality support is going to be sparse in a sparse location. Here in LA, they drive my parts to me, but it's a half hour drive.
While many distro's make life easier in some ways, Linux is just plain hard. It's a labor of love - if you want it bad enough you'll deal with it... if you don't, what's so wrong with running 9x? You aren't at that point of inflection, maybe. And that's cool, Linux isn't for everyone. However, this discussion is about tech support from big vendors, you can post questions on at the linuxgazette and get answers.
HP have a certification program for tested configs of hardware and Linux. This allows you to pick a combo that you know has already been verified. They even have docs that list specific deviations (LC4r and HP NetRAID for example) from their spec. that are required to make things run. If you call tech. support, they are matter of fact when you state your OS. Very nice. And I have a big honkin' LH4 running like a charm, as well as Netservers.
He now claims the NT number is inflated "because (they) consider it part of the OS"?! Wait a minute, isn't that the whole crux of Microsofts case in the DOJ thing? Have you ever tried to maintain NT boxes WITHOUT installing ie? This ringpiece needs to be blacklisted, he's just trawling for hits.
I checked the site, they're talking about the current release of mozilla being M9, it was last updated in May, (doesn't say which year). Sure, doing it in Java would make some sense, except for performance, but this doesn't look promising. Still, I like choice, and I find java solutions to problems quite workable (see VNC for a wunderbar example), so good luck to 'em. However, I use Mozilla as my primary browser, with https support, and it's working better and better in the nightly builds.
I downloaded M16, and while it was slightly better than M15, was still flaky, lacking in some features, and crashy. I decided to call it quits on Mozilla, but downloaded a nightly build for one last shot.... what a difference. I can now use it every day without crashing, and it feels much more "together". Still not quite there, but proof that it really is being worked on. My only gripes are SSL (tried running the installer, and gave up when it bombed) and no java. My dependance on java applets is getting greater all the time - examples: vnc remote control of win boxes (check it out if you use vnc but weren't aware of this side of it), my local library uses an applet to renew/review books (hey - it works, but even I thought it was an odd choice), melange chat server.... the list goes on. Java is truly filling gaps, despite performance, it solves problems. Could do with that. Anyway - try a nightly build, and prepare to be pleasantly surprised. Still works like shite on windows though!
HP don't support Linux across the board, but they do provide detailed documents on installing Linux on their servers, and they even have a certification program that ensures hardware combos work and have been tested. The quality of the boxes is good, and the support seems practical (when you call tech. support, they have no problems with Linux, and know their limitations). Good people IMHO.
Every E series Netserver I've used (45's and 50's) drops to a crawl once > 500Mb RAM is added. Up to 500, it's snappy, but the BIOS, and presumably the caching, or lack thereof, give the infamous Large Memory condition of Linux. I have not yet tried hurling a Gig at my LH4 beastie...
The idea of a simple, working, windows migration tool shows how little the author understands of the windows world. Any kind of windows upgrade is an extreme challenge due to the sheer volume of conflicting dll's, driver combinations, and general chaos that is your average windows install. It's such a challenge that even Microsofts own installers and upgraders cannot successfully accomplish it. Then there's the application base. Office isn't the start and end of business software. Out of the 70 applications my users have (and use, regularly - engineering), only 4 of them are the office suite. And the laughable server migration concept, a server is not just an OS, it's part of protocols, WAN connections, and applications like backup, software distribution, homegrown tools. The more I think of this article, the more absurd it becomes!
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Perl on windows is the only way to tame that ugly beast. I use scripts based on the ORA book "ntws management", and they finally bring some manageability to the platform. Using the scheduler, you can run self maintaining "stub" scripts that simply grab a task list, check for updates, and then run. Perls strengths on win32 are registry hacking, and unc support. I support 40 workstations (not much) with 75 engineering applications on each one (whoah!), and rarely have to visit them. It has, quite simply, freed me from the drudgery of windows maintenance.
The games have had a history of this kind of grossness and manipulation as a political statement for as long as I can remember (which is only around 30 years), but, at the end of the day, it's the athletes I'm interested in. Hey, the whole world is being bought up and paid for by corporate sponsorship, refusing to watch the olympics on tv then claiming it's activism is laughable. The athletes who want to keep an online diary should just do so, and make a statement, I doubt they'll be many of them tho'.
Seems like just a few days ago I was reading here about the contempt for Lotus' old look and feel lawsuit. Web layout *is* public domain, kudos to the guy for seeing something that worked, and adopting it. Hey, isn't that CODE RE-USE????!!! I grabbed his dancing penguin gif (too bad it's a gif), and will have no qualms about using it.
I contacted HP direct on this issue once (I buy all HP equipment), and they told me there is not and never will be a jetdirect software for Linux. However, as many have pointed out, you can just go straight in with lpd and it will work (had plenty of problems with non-postscript print queues on RedHat tho'....)
Yeah, there are "lots" of individuals who illegally copy M$ stuff, but it's a question of scale; in general, the larger the number of seats, the less "piracy" becomes an issue. I have friends who admin 1000 seat installs of 9x/office, and every copy is legit. I have other friends who are strictly forbidden from introducing any kind of s/w that has not been through the licensing co-ordination. In smaller companies there's less tendency to pay for all the copies. In the home, even less so. But how many homes and small businesses do you have to go through to equal a 1000 seat loss? It's small potatoes. However, though I read your initial statement incorrectly, I stand by my comment that those who illegally copy M$ software are causing more damage than good. Right now, the only commercial s/w I use is: Sound Forge, Visual Age for Java, Office 200, and AutoCAD. They're all paid for, and you know what? The most expensive, AutoCAD, is a true piece of buggy, flaky, messed up shit. Would I pirate it? hell no! I still get my moneys worth out of it (you have to be pretty damn good with AutoCAD to recover $2700).
I use and pay for Microsoft and other commercial software. If I can't afford it, or there's a better choice in Free Software, I use that. If you can't afford a car, or don't want to pay for one, are you claiming you should be able to steal it? What kind of fucked up logic is that? On the down side, turds like you who continue to spread the use of Microsoft, albeit illegally, do more damage than any other group. If you're not part of the solution....
I've done some work with Hangul for our Korean employees, and though its somewhat straightforward, the problem is that pages become "binary", so you have to treat them like images, even though when you load 'em up in emacs they're not, and it handles it. Having said that, it's still a bunch of fun dealing with different character sets.
Excellent, I thought, I'll just grab the nightly and check it out, I'm about due for a new one (two weeks). Man, if this is your idea of an attractive GUI layout..... this looks like some gifs someone slapped together 'cos they ran out of time!
The milestones have always seemed buggy crap to me, but the nightly builds are usually good. I'm running M18, and have been for a while, though some of the "add-ons" don't work. The only thing that pisses me off, is lack of Java support on Linux. I use applets on a daily basis, and Mozilla can't run 'em. At this stage in the game, why the hell not? I ask....
Just what is the problem with getting a JVM into Mozilla on Linux. The rest of it is pretty pleasant (at least, the nightly builds are), and I can understand the lack of encryption, but no JVM? C'mon, I switched all my stuff to css, and it renders wonderfully in ie on windows and m17 on Linux, but I have to dip back into communicator if I want to visit anything with an applet. Bah!
Damn right, that's another year down the drain. I like Mozilla; using it and testing it, but it's hard to contradict jwz.
Both these applications produce diabolical HTML, and I'm beginning to think it's to make the pages gag browsers that stick to the standard, while ie happily chugs 'em down. Lets face it, we got into this mess by avoiding adherence to the standards. Don't think it will get any better by continuing down that path. The solution is cold turkey - real html (which leads to real XML) only, let M$ and their bullshit sloppiness come back and bite them!
Try popping a few facts to back up your statement, or maybe check out The Issues if you don't have any.
Why install some crap? You could visit the NT FAQ and get a registry hack for this one. The day I can run AutoCAD on Linux and there's consistency across the entire application range is the day windoze disappears from 500 desktops in our company....
Wrong. I have pdf reference docs on specific Netserver configuration parameters for Linux. Install docs for Linux. They don't pre-install it, but they do give you a combo that's known to work, and you don't buy an NT license by default. They also support hardware questions for Linux installs (NetRaid, NIC, etc.). Check out the OS tables for the Netserver line a little harder, you'll see it.
Logistics may be the culprit here - based on your location. My folks live in Australia, and it took them 6 weeks to buy a mattress (had to be ordered from the factory), the stores close on saturday (even grocery stores). It sounds like IBM dropped the ball, but quality support is going to be sparse in a sparse location. Here in LA, they drive my parts to me, but it's a half hour drive.
While many distro's make life easier in some ways, Linux is just plain hard. It's a labor of love - if you want it bad enough you'll deal with it... if you don't, what's so wrong with running 9x? You aren't at that point of inflection, maybe. And that's cool, Linux isn't for everyone. However, this discussion is about tech support from big vendors, you can post questions on at the linuxgazette and get answers.
HP have a certification program for tested configs of hardware and Linux. This allows you to pick a combo that you know has already been verified. They even have docs that list specific deviations (LC4r and HP NetRAID for example) from their spec. that are required to make things run. If you call tech. support, they are matter of fact when you state your OS. Very nice. And I have a big honkin' LH4 running like a charm, as well as Netservers.
He now claims the NT number is inflated "because (they) consider it part of the OS"?! Wait a minute, isn't that the whole crux of Microsofts case in the DOJ thing? Have you ever tried to maintain NT boxes WITHOUT installing ie? This ringpiece needs to be blacklisted, he's just trawling for hits.
I checked the site, they're talking about the current release of mozilla being M9, it was last updated in May, (doesn't say which year). Sure, doing it in Java would make some sense, except for performance, but this doesn't look promising. Still, I like choice, and I find java solutions to problems quite workable (see VNC for a wunderbar example), so good luck to 'em. However, I use Mozilla as my primary browser, with https support, and it's working better and better in the nightly builds.
I downloaded M16, and while it was slightly better than M15, was still flaky, lacking in some features, and crashy. I decided to call it quits on Mozilla, but downloaded a nightly build for one last shot.... what a difference. I can now use it every day without crashing, and it feels much more "together". Still not quite there, but proof that it really is being worked on. My only gripes are SSL (tried running the installer, and gave up when it bombed) and no java. My dependance on java applets is getting greater all the time - examples: vnc remote control of win boxes (check it out if you use vnc but weren't aware of this side of it), my local library uses an applet to renew/review books (hey - it works, but even I thought it was an odd choice), melange chat server.... the list goes on. Java is truly filling gaps, despite performance, it solves problems. Could do with that. Anyway - try a nightly build, and prepare to be pleasantly surprised. Still works like shite on windows though!
HP don't support Linux across the board, but they do provide detailed documents on installing Linux on their servers, and they even have a certification program that ensures hardware combos work and have been tested. The quality of the boxes is good, and the support seems practical (when you call tech. support, they have no problems with Linux, and know their limitations). Good people IMHO.
Every E series Netserver I've used (45's and 50's) drops to a crawl once > 500Mb RAM is added. Up to 500, it's snappy, but the BIOS, and presumably the caching, or lack thereof, give the infamous Large Memory condition of Linux. I have not yet tried hurling a Gig at my LH4 beastie...
Contact the support desk for your commercial software to answer this. That's why you pay for proprietary software right? Right?
The idea of a simple, working, windows migration tool shows how little the author understands of the windows world. Any kind of windows upgrade is an extreme challenge due to the sheer volume of conflicting dll's, driver combinations, and general chaos that is your average windows install. It's such a challenge that even Microsofts own installers and upgraders cannot successfully accomplish it.
Then there's the application base. Office isn't the start and end of business software. Out of the 70 applications my users have (and use, regularly - engineering), only 4 of them are the office suite.
And the laughable server migration concept, a server is not just an OS, it's part of protocols, WAN connections, and applications like backup, software distribution, homegrown tools.
The more I think of this article, the more absurd it becomes!