It disturbs me a bit to see EU associated to something actually useful to mankind. Usually it only cares about the market. I must have missed a point.
Someone moderated that "troll". I would be interested if that person could explain to me why (by private message if you do not want to undo your moderation). Note that I wrote EU, which I do not confuse with council of Europe or with multilateral projects between european countries, such as the ESA.
This *is* about the market (and Western investors jumping onto the land/resources grab to expropriate everything of agricultural value). Imperialists coming in to map your resources is like burglars snooping around to case a joint --- "we're just peeping through the windows to help survey the quantity and location of valuables in this house."
Here I find EU as I know it: pure evil. I wonder how long before we people of Europe manage to get rid of it.
Is there any kind of recovery mode if you install a kernel or bootloader that crashes? As I understand there is nothing like a serial port or an alternative storage, which means that a bad update and the device is bricked.
The problem seems to be in the phrase 'missing person', which I guess is a translation thing
I am a native french speaker, and I have readen the letter from ministry of interior to police chiefs. The document does not tell about missing persons, or any term that could be translated that way. It only deals with recherches dans l'intérêt des familles, which one could translate into "searches for the family interest".
The original document organizing the procedure is about personne recherchée "researched person", and Personne disparue, which you could translate into "missing person", or "person that has disapeared".
I recall reading somewhere that you got energy by fusion on atoms lighter than iron, and by fission on atoms heavier than iron. Nickel to copper fusion contradicts that rule. Did I misremember? Or is it more complicated than that?
It took me a while to understand why it would be possible to abandon in-city retail place, but I think I got the idea: since all US shoppers go the retail place in their car, there is not more value for a specific place in the town, you can just open a new place a bit more far away, shoppers will follow.
If I understand correctly, they use vitamin C as a catalyst on iron to create an intense oxydative stress. If that is the way used to destroy a pathogen, I believe it would also destroy patient's cells if used in vivo.
We see many situations where US companies spend their cash to reduce their capitalization instead of investing. I understand it means they have too much money in their hand. That is, they do not pay enough taxes.
This is good news. After EU insane move to push retirement age in member countries, a well-alive COBOL market will means that some elder will actually be employed. Now we just need to find a solution for all the unlucky that cannot enjoy that.
Maybe you could just hook this machine to your DSL router plus some sort of KVM switch ? I am to privy to the details of KVM stuff, but there should not be a general reason it cannot work.
Then you could make this machine available to a guy in Norway or maybe even Morocco.
For kernel developement, a remote-controlled power socket is also required, as the machine will probably crash a lot
Wheres Fedora excels both as a server and as a desktop hence NetBSD is not really relevant.
IMO NetBSD is much better than Fedora as a server, but YMMV. This is what is nice with your troll-ish sentence: it works with any OS instead of Fedora and NetBSD.
Please subscribe to the port-sgimips mailing list and tell that you are ready to lend the machine to someone that would pick it up or pay shipping. You will get an answer or not, but at least you will have tried
NetBSD has unmatched features for embedded: cross-building out of the box and machine-independant drivers help a lot here.
It is also very good as a server. The backward compatibility seems to be a detail, but when you think of it, that means easy upgrades: reboot with a newer kernel without upgrading userland, it works. Then drop to single user, unpack up-to-date userland without upgrading the packages, return to multiuser, it works. Install a package built for version n-1, it works.
There are a lot of kernels built for ARM platforms, but you will probably want to tweak and rebuild your own. This can be cross-built from your favorite Linux box, it is as simple as
run./build.sh -U -m evbarm tools to build the toolchain (-U for unprivilegied if you are not root, -m for target platform)
copy a kernel config file from sys/arch/evbarm/conf, and change whatever you need
run./build.sh -u -U -m evbarm kernel=YOUR_KERNEL_FILE to cross-build your custom kernel (-u for update, it does not rebuild what you already have, which will be useful when you will tweak things)
Kernel are ELF, so if you already have an ELF bootloader, it should be straightforward
Theses two OSes are not really for the same usage. NetBSD is good for servers and embedded, but it is not very desktop friendly. It can be used as a desktop, but it required some work that you do not have to do with Fedora.
Have you considered lending the machine to a NetBSD developer? In order to have hardware supported, we need the conjunction of (access to hardware, skills, time). You may lack the second entry of the tuple, but someone else may just lack the first one.
NetBSD mailing lists (port-sgimips here) are the right place to discuss such an arrangement
For its excellent backward compatibility: NetBSD 6.1 is still able to run a.out binaries built for NetBSD 1.0
For its system-independant build system. Building NetBSD needs a POSIX system with a C compiler, which does not need to be NetBSD. It first builds the tools for the host, including the compiler itself, and then the target NetBSD system, which may be for another CPU.
For its machine-independant drivers. Have a fancy platform with an odd CPU? If NetBSD has a driver for a chip, it will work as is, no need to port it
It is true no renewable energy source is a panacea, but if you combine multiple sources, it starts filling the deal
Usually when you don't have sun, you have wind. Hydroelectricity can be a cheap energy storage system for time when you have neither sun, nor wind: while you have power, just pump river or sea water into a high pool, and release it when needed.
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It disturbs me a bit to see EU associated to something actually useful to mankind. Usually it only cares about the market. I must have missed a point.
Someone moderated that "troll". I would be interested if that person could explain to me why (by private message if you do not want to undo your moderation). Note that I wrote EU, which I do not confuse with council of Europe or with multilateral projects between european countries, such as the ESA.
This *is* about the market (and Western investors jumping onto the land/resources grab to expropriate everything of agricultural value). Imperialists coming in to map your resources is like burglars snooping around to case a joint --- "we're just peeping through the windows to help survey the quantity and location of valuables in this house."
Here I find EU as I know it: pure evil. I wonder how long before we people of Europe manage to get rid of it.
Is there any kind of recovery mode if you install a kernel or bootloader that crashes? As I understand there is nothing like a serial port or an alternative storage, which means that a bad update and the device is bricked.
It disturbs me a bit to see EU associated to something actually useful to mankind. Usually it only cares about the market. I must have missed a point.
The problem seems to be in the phrase 'missing person', which I guess is a translation thing
I am a native french speaker, and I have readen the letter from ministry of interior to police chiefs. The document does not tell about missing persons, or any term that could be translated that way. It only deals with recherches dans l'intérêt des familles, which one could translate into "searches for the family interest".
The original document organizing the procedure is about personne recherchée "researched person", and Personne disparue, which you could translate into "missing person", or "person that has disapeared".
I recall reading somewhere that you got energy by fusion on atoms lighter than iron, and by fission on atoms heavier than iron. Nickel to copper fusion contradicts that rule. Did I misremember? Or is it more complicated than that?
It took me a while to understand why it would be possible to abandon in-city retail place, but I think I got the idea: since all US shoppers go the retail place in their car, there is not more value for a specific place in the town, you can just open a new place a bit more far away, shoppers will follow.
Hit redundant mod by mistake. Posting to undo moderation.
If I understand correctly, they use vitamin C as a catalyst on iron to create an intense oxydative stress. If that is the way used to destroy a pathogen, I believe it would also destroy patient's cells if used in vivo.
We see many situations where US companies spend their cash to reduce their capitalization instead of investing. I understand it means they have too much money in their hand. That is, they do not pay enough taxes.
They will have to find a trick to make vitamin C not degraded after 30 years.
Reminder: humans cannot live without many micronutriments, and most of them are fragile.
Then why Apple is doing it? I have trouble to imagine they are more green-involved than profit-involvd.
Last I checked, Itanium was not supported - it is supported on FreeBSD. Does NetBSD support it now, or have they abandoned plans of supporting it?
There is a work in progress port, but no formal release. I do not know how usable it is
For Embedded, why bother w/ NetBSD at all - Minix is smaller, but uses the same NetBSD userland.
Right, but what about kernel support for embedded CPUs? You have ARM, but you could want SH3, SH5, MIPS, PowerPC...
1 billion for buying a user community that does not pay anything, and is served 13 millions in advertising? Um, Internet bubble is coming back.
This is good news. After EU insane move to push retirement age in member countries, a well-alive COBOL market will means that some elder will actually be employed. Now we just need to find a solution for all the unlucky that cannot enjoy that.
Maybe you could just hook this machine to your DSL router plus some sort of KVM switch ? I am to privy to the details of KVM stuff, but there should not be a general reason it cannot work.
Then you could make this machine available to a guy in Norway or maybe even Morocco.
For kernel developement, a remote-controlled power socket is also required, as the machine will probably crash a lot
Wheres Fedora excels both as a server and as a desktop hence NetBSD is not really relevant.
IMO NetBSD is much better than Fedora as a server, but YMMV. This is what is nice with your troll-ish sentence: it works with any OS instead of Fedora and NetBSD.
Please subscribe to the port-sgimips mailing list and tell that you are ready to lend the machine to someone that would pick it up or pay shipping. You will get an answer or not, but at least you will have tried
NetBSD has unmatched features for embedded: cross-building out of the box and machine-independant drivers help a lot here.
It is also very good as a server. The backward compatibility seems to be a detail, but when you think of it, that means easy upgrades: reboot with a newer kernel without upgrading userland, it works. Then drop to single user, unpack up-to-date userland without upgrading the packages, return to multiuser, it works. Install a package built for version n-1, it works.
Here is a good starting point.
There are a lot of kernels built for ARM platforms, but you will probably want to tweak and rebuild your own. This can be cross-built from your favorite Linux box, it is as simple as
Kernel are ELF, so if you already have an ELF bootloader, it should be straightforward
Theses two OSes are not really for the same usage. NetBSD is good for servers and embedded, but it is not very desktop friendly. It can be used as a desktop, but it required some work that you do not have to do with Fedora.
Have you considered lending the machine to a NetBSD developer? In order to have hardware supported, we need the conjunction of (access to hardware, skills, time). You may lack the second entry of the tuple, but someone else may just lack the first one.
NetBSD mailing lists (port-sgimips here) are the right place to discuss such an arrangement
Why NetBSD?
It is true no renewable energy source is a panacea, but if you combine multiple sources, it starts filling the deal
Usually when you don't have sun, you have wind. Hydroelectricity can be a cheap energy storage system for time when you have neither sun, nor wind: while you have power, just pump river or sea water into a high pool, and release it when needed.