That's what I have learned about bigotry recently. I grew up thinking that bigotry was applying a conclusion to someone's behavior or outcome, which would only be true, if self reinforcing. But now being a bigot counts when applying a bias against a protected group, even if backed up research and data.
And if you don't think Internet access is a limited quantity, I invite you to spend a summer in La Verkin, Utah -- Population 4,060, and not worth U.S. West's time to put in high speed network access for anyone.
It sounds like people in La Verkin do have internet access, just perhaps at the speeds you want. My point is that adding everyone in La Verkin doesn't reduce my ability to access the internet.
Everyone -- absolutely everyone -- who is posting on Slashdot against the idea already has Internet access!
"I've got mine, and screw everyone else, even if getting a cut-down version would be astronomically better than what they currently have!"
The "I've got mine" attitude works a whole lot more for a limited commodity, not so well as adding another node to a network. Plus, given that this wireless Facebook access wouldn't allow for access to Slashdot, it's not hypocritical to the Slashdot crowd.
But since this offering doesn't prevent other ISPs from making competing offers (either free or for-pay), this offering simply provides people more choices which inherently cannot make them worse off.
But sometimes it does harm them. There's goodness in net neutrality. If a lower cost offering exists, which limits the information the people can get, they may not accept the full internet (even if available to them), because it will cost more. As a result the people are unknowingly harmed, because they won't chose to get full access to the plethora of ideas which exist on a net neutral internet.
You mean, put forth effort to try and have their own parties nominee be an actual member of the party? Not someone who has always declared themselves as a member of a different party? Oh, the horror.
I'm afraid it could end up hurting compatibility and consistency of domain names
Right, and so when most people notice that the internet isn't working anymore, they'll get their tech savvy friends to fix the internet for them, which will involve using US based DNS again.
But if other nations don't like our management of it, they'll fork it, and then we'd lose control anyhow, AND have potentially fractured standards.
It's not as simple as us controlling it versus "them" controlling it. Unfortunately, the us-vs-them portrayal resonates better as a compact political sound-bite.
I'm sorry, I can't tell if you're saying that as being a good thing, or a bad thing? Do you really think that if a country runs a different DNS service, that it won't just result in most every citizen trying to work around it to get to the "real" internet?
I think they're saying they want spaced indentation to be illegal, and force you to use tabs. Not sure why that would help anything.
When moving around lines in a file, or moving them in and out of some scope, I find that it's less annoying when dealing with tabs than compared to a file with spaces. It's easier to get the indentation correct in those cases.
So... what you're saying is that you want a language where indentation is illegal? Sort of the anti-Python?
No, I want the character whose soul purpose is indentation, to be used for indentation (ie tabs); and the character which exists for separating non-whitespace characters to not be used for indentation (ie spaces).
The only breaking change worth having in a released language is a compilation error if a space character is surrounded by white space characters. The space character exists in writing to break up words (ie, a series of non-white space characters), and the same should be true for programming. I'd be so happy if that were made a compiler breaking change in all of the major languages. I'd push so hard to upgrade to the latest version for all of them.
Well the reason is that if the US doesn't give up control, countries have been threatening with building their own internet infrastructure to run in parallel.
Isn't it great that the internet was designed to handle that case. It's a feature, not a bug.
What are those countries complaints? What's they're motivation for running their own DNS service? Are they legitimate and technical? Is ICANN not living up to their stated mission goals?
This is like the argument in Captain America: Civil War. Sure the Avengers don't have oversight by the world governments, but it's not like they weren't doing good things.
It seems like the current players, just want to cement control.
Try filling out ANY credit application without giving your SSN. Without a SSN, Experian, TransUnion, and Equifax have no way of distinguishing you from the dozens of other people with the same name!
I know it's impossible to do now, which is why I believe that it would take legislation to fix. Would industry need to change to handle it, yes. Would it be impossible for them to do so? No.
I imagine what would happen is that different industries would come up with their own unique identifiers for individuals, and I think that that's great.
This sounds like a reason to make it finable for a company to have your SSN, unless they are the Social Security Office, or are your employer and are contributing to social security on your behalf.
Having a unique ID, that's so easily obtainable, is ripe for abuse.
So why did we attack Iraq? The plots were not being coordinated from there.
Because the leader of Iraq was regularly committing war crimes against his own people, constantly saying that he was developing weapons which would allow him to take on the US, and was ignoring the UN ratified peace treaties which he signed. If you don't enforce binding agreements with dictators, they become more aggressive.
Well, Saudi Arabia is a brutal dictatorship too, are we going to attack them? 19 of the 911 hijackers were from there, but we attacked Afghanistan and Iraq instead.
The plots weren't being coordinated from Saudi Arabia, nor was the government encouraging or being complicit to the attacks. The nationality of the non-decision makers is irrelevant.
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That's what I have learned about bigotry recently. I grew up thinking that bigotry was applying a conclusion to someone's behavior or outcome, which would only be true, if self reinforcing. But now being a bigot counts when applying a bias against a protected group, even if backed up research and data.
There also has to be a limit to how much work the government can compel people to do for free to help them uncover evidence
That's an easy answer, nothing for free. The government is willing to pay for this work. No involved is talking about unpaid work.
And if you don't think Internet access is a limited quantity, I invite you to spend a summer in La Verkin, Utah -- Population 4,060, and not worth U.S. West's time to put in high speed network access for anyone.
It sounds like people in La Verkin do have internet access, just perhaps at the speeds you want. My point is that adding everyone in La Verkin doesn't reduce my ability to access the internet.
Everyone -- absolutely everyone -- who is posting on Slashdot against the idea already has Internet access!
"I've got mine, and screw everyone else, even if getting a cut-down version would be astronomically better than what they currently have!"
The "I've got mine" attitude works a whole lot more for a limited commodity, not so well as adding another node to a network. Plus, given that this wireless Facebook access wouldn't allow for access to Slashdot, it's not hypocritical to the Slashdot crowd.
But since this offering doesn't prevent other ISPs from making competing offers (either free or for-pay), this offering simply provides people more choices which inherently cannot make them worse off.
But sometimes it does harm them. There's goodness in net neutrality. If a lower cost offering exists, which limits the information the people can get, they may not accept the full internet (even if available to them), because it will cost more. As a result the people are unknowingly harmed, because they won't chose to get full access to the plethora of ideas which exist on a net neutral internet.
Why doesn't the original article have any pictures of this giant patch?
People are perfectly capable of governing pollution without big government sticking their noses into everything.
You mean like the Republicans did?
I suspect they are wishing that they had tried harder.
after what she and the DNC did to Sanders
You mean, put forth effort to try and have their own parties nominee be an actual member of the party? Not someone who has always declared themselves as a member of a different party? Oh, the horror.
I'm afraid it could end up hurting compatibility and consistency of domain names
Right, and so when most people notice that the internet isn't working anymore, they'll get their tech savvy friends to fix the internet for them, which will involve using US based DNS again.
But if other nations don't like our management of it, they'll fork it, and then we'd lose control anyhow, AND have potentially fractured standards.
It's not as simple as us controlling it versus "them" controlling it. Unfortunately, the us-vs-them portrayal resonates better as a compact political sound-bite.
I'm sorry, I can't tell if you're saying that as being a good thing, or a bad thing? Do you really think that if a country runs a different DNS service, that it won't just result in most every citizen trying to work around it to get to the "real" internet?
I think they're saying they want spaced indentation to be illegal, and force you to use tabs. Not sure why that would help anything.
When moving around lines in a file, or moving them in and out of some scope, I find that it's less annoying when dealing with tabs than compared to a file with spaces. It's easier to get the indentation correct in those cases.
So... what you're saying is that you want a language where indentation is illegal? Sort of the anti-Python?
No, I want the character whose soul purpose is indentation, to be used for indentation (ie tabs); and the character which exists for separating non-whitespace characters to not be used for indentation (ie spaces).
The only breaking change worth having in a released language is a compilation error if a space character is surrounded by white space characters. The space character exists in writing to break up words (ie, a series of non-white space characters), and the same should be true for programming. I'd be so happy if that were made a compiler breaking change in all of the major languages. I'd push so hard to upgrade to the latest version for all of them.
I think that most people have the same level intelligence.
You need to get out of your bubble.
Cut every cost.
Well the reason is that if the US doesn't give up control, countries have been threatening with building their own internet infrastructure to run in parallel.
Isn't it great that the internet was designed to handle that case. It's a feature, not a bug.
What are those countries complaints? What's they're motivation for running their own DNS service? Are they legitimate and technical? Is ICANN not living up to their stated mission goals?
Is anyone finding ICANN to be lacking?
This is like the argument in Captain America: Civil War. Sure the Avengers don't have oversight by the world governments, but it's not like they weren't doing good things.
It seems like the current players, just want to cement control.
Try filling out ANY credit application without giving your SSN. Without a SSN, Experian, TransUnion, and Equifax have no way of distinguishing you from the dozens of other people with the same name!
I know it's impossible to do now, which is why I believe that it would take legislation to fix. Would industry need to change to handle it, yes. Would it be impossible for them to do so? No.
I imagine what would happen is that different industries would come up with their own unique identifiers for individuals, and I think that that's great.
They also said that they would reimburse fully all of the victims.
This sounds like a reason to make it finable for a company to have your SSN, unless they are the Social Security Office, or are your employer and are contributing to social security on your behalf.
Having a unique ID, that's so easily obtainable, is ripe for abuse.
So why did we attack Iraq? The plots were not being coordinated from there.
Because the leader of Iraq was regularly committing war crimes against his own people, constantly saying that he was developing weapons which would allow him to take on the US, and was ignoring the UN ratified peace treaties which he signed. If you don't enforce binding agreements with dictators, they become more aggressive.
Well, Saudi Arabia is a brutal dictatorship too, are we going to attack them? 19 of the 911 hijackers were from there, but we attacked Afghanistan and Iraq instead.
The plots weren't being coordinated from Saudi Arabia, nor was the government encouraging or being complicit to the attacks. The nationality of the non-decision makers is irrelevant.
Because I intent my text for clarification to the reader. At least when I'm typing something which has scopes.
i hate backspacing over numerous tabs
I hate backspaces over 8x the spaces vs. what there would have been if tabs instead.