There is a changing preference from the journalists, but basically, here are the technical facts:
1. You usually find faster burners for +R than for -R (in the order of 2.4 vs. 2)
2. DVD-R plays in a wider range of set top boxes / Video dvd players. This means that the movies of your holidays that you're going to burn will play on a wider ranges of video players with the -R technology than the +R.
For an evidence of my assertion, go to http://www.dvdrhelp.com/ and click on "DVD-Players" on the left. This list represent "all" the DVD players available on the market since the creation of the DVD-Video (or pretty close) and can tell you which DVD player plays which formats (DVD-R, DVD+R, CDRW, CDR,...). If you click on DVD-R, you get 1484 results. Click on DVD+R: 1045 player only matches.
3. DVD-R are cheaper than DVD+R, DVD-RW are cheaper than DVD+RW. Just go check the prices on amazon.com or anywhere else (Amazon might not be the best example)
4. DVD+R is backed up by bigger companies with bigger bucks than DVD-R. This explains IMHO the good press that DVD+R is having these days. It will probably not help them impose their standard as "THE" standard.
5. Most DVD-R burners read DVD+R, where most DVD+R burners don't read DVD-R. Another good reason to buy a DVD-R burner: You can read every single DVD burned.
Giving that, I bought a Pioneer A04 19 months ago and I don't regret it. Even if DVD-R is to die (and I doubt it) I will not regret having bought a DVD-R.
As I said, my DVD-R are DVDs, they will play forever (or at least for as long as they last as a media) in any (or most) DVD player.
This is probably the worst reoundup I've ever seen.
Fomr the article:
DVD- is said to be less compatible than DVD+
This is actually the opposite of EVERYTHING else I've read about DVDs.
DVD- is slower
That depends on the burners out there, not on the media itself.
DVD- is having 70% of the market
That's the first time I hear figures of marketshare and it's good to see that the best media is gaining ground on it's competitor. But if it is as accurate as the two assertions above....
Ahhh.... horrible roundup. The only thing looks accurate is the burning speed, and who cares between 6.5 minutes and 5.9 ???
I would have liked to see compatibility tests and other interesting things.
Let's take the analogy of VHS vs. Betamax. People that went with the (now dead) Betamax format are screwed now because all their tape are as good as dead. In this case going eith the technically superior format was a mistake.
How come the DVD format war doesn't apply here?
You CAN read a DVD-R on a DVD+R drive. You CAN read a DVD+R on a DVD-R drive.
Now let's say you buy a DVD-R (because it's technically superior). All DVD players (ROM, boxes, Video etc...) will ALWAYS support your format. In fact you can read your DVD-R in most DVD players that were release before the DVD-R discs even existed.
So when DVD-R is going to die (if that ever happens), all your DVD-R that you have burned in the meantime (music, movies, data, etc...) are still going to play in ALL the players out there.
That's the main difference between DVD and VCR analogy. When Betamax died, you couldn't watch your videotapes anywhere because you needed a BETAMAX VCR to read them.
In the case of DVD-R or DVD+R, you don't need a DVD+R or DVD-R drive to read them, you need a DVD Drive. And they are not likely to die soon.
But why bother. I already explained that in your parent post. You probably didn't read through it anyways. So you're not likely to read through this one either...
Who is going to be the standard is irrelevant. -R has a better support on existing devices, cheaper media and all devices (existing and future) are going to be able to read it.
Where's the risk on buying a DVD-R ?
Even if +R wins the battle in the end, who cares? All your DVD-Rs are not going to the trash can: You can still read them on every device. And you're going to find blank media for some time anyways.
Now if you want to buy the more expensive and less compatible standard, go ahead...
I like most of my generation grew up watching the Smurfs. I loved them so much that I tuned in every Saturday morning to see what crazy hijinks those lovable little blue creatures would get up to.
I did too. In my country I was addicted to the Comic Book, not the cartoon, but the same idea is there.
It is just now that I have realized what I was really tuning into each and every Saturday morning was actuallty COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA!! Yes that is correct, Papa Smurf and all of his little Smurf minions are not the happy little characters Hanna Barbara would have us believe! The cartoon was really created by the Russian government in order to indoctrinate the youngest members of western society with communist beliefs and ideals thus destroying their resistance to the imminent Russian invasion that was to occur when this generation (my generation) grew up.
The comic is belgian, not Russian. BTW, You'll notice that most of the children stories are communist "everyone is nice and beautiful" (Teletubbies anyone?). Except the notable exception of GI-Joe as you mention below.
To prove my point I submit that 1.) They live in a communal village and are discouraged to leave the village without the company of their fellow Smurfs.
Oh, come on. These nice little creatures live in such a beautiful harmony. Besides, Gargamel is waiting for them so it is just a wise idea to not get out alone.
2.) Every Smurf has his own specific job and does not deviate from that job. The job even becomes part of their personality and even their name (Brainy Smurf, Handy Smurf, etc.)
Does that reminds you of snow white and the seven dwarfs? Jewel of the American culture... well, since the Sonny Bono Act, Jewel of the Walt Disney Corp. for a little longer.
3.) If ever a Smurf decides to strike out on his own he is cast into danger in some way of another, and it is up to the collective to save him.
Communism is perhaps not that bad. Again, it is a survival defense mechanism. Keep in mind the Izrael cat and it's evil master. It's a dangerous world out there.
4.) Papa Smurf looks an awful lot like Karl Marx plus, he wears all that red.
I couldn't get used to him, that is true. This guy thinks he is the wisest of all, and this thought alone screws it up!!!!
And let us not forget Smurfette, the lone female Smurf and the embodiment of community property.
I could see the Smurfette as the "Poison Ivy" symbol of Capitalism in the whole thing.
This has to be the stupidiest post ever... um, oh wait, that was the grand-parent of this one... oh well.
Linus would have seen every line of code
Sure, so what?
I mean EVERY line
Sure, so what ?
It's probably pretty easy for him to spot something that he didn't approve for the mainstream kernel.
Ok, so you mean if some code is infringing SCO patents/copyright, he wouldn't have approved it.
Let's say an IBM engineer submits a change that is actually a copy paste from the SCO codebase. How would Linus know about that? How would he know the engineer did not came up with the algorithm himself but copied it from some source Linus doesn't have access to?
Dude, you need to think before writing.
I know that I can go through stuff I've written over the years and easily tell you when I made changes
Would be relevant if Linus wrote every single line of the kernel. But irrelevant in the current situation, you have to give me this one.
and why and how every line of code works
Every line of code works for a very good reason, whether it is original of CCed from SCO codebase.
Mozilla is not the best browser out there anyways. Opera is even better (faster, les memory usage, better support on some CSS stuff....)
You can't even hide a row of a table in DHTML. Actually, hiding works but you can't show it properly again... A ROW in a TABLE, dammit!!! That's basics!!
BTW, I'm interested to know if Mozilla will ever support VML... A very simple and lightweight way of drawing vectors/graphs/... that IE supports natively since IE5.
On this one I must say that IE is ahead of its competitors, and if the company I'm working for does only support IE that's for a very good reason.
1. problemme doesn't take 2 'm', and take a grave accent on the 'e': Problème. 2. c'etait is an ugly (and unused) shortcut for 'ça n'était'. When the negative is used, the 'n' has to be added.
Et merci pour votre bonté...c'etait ma plaisir;)
1. again, etait is 'était' 2. plaisir is a masculine word and so the correct thing to say is: c'était mon plaisir 3. 'c'etait ma plaisir' is a literal translation for 'it was my pleasure' that doesn't have any sense in french (at least France's french).
Maybe I can give you a couple of french lesson. You can pay me with English lessons in return, what about that ?;-)
What drives the language any enterprise app is written in is more the language the designing cell (read: the people starting the project) knows and think is the best.
Java has a good visibility/press right now and that's probably the only reason it's so much used these days.
First off, believe it or not, ANSI C is pretty darned portable
You've said it! You have to port C code!! Java is cross-platform by design, not portable.
On the other hand, porting C code is just a matter of making sure the library you use on OS A is also ported on OS B. For example porting an X app on windows is not possible (well, you can rewrite your GUI layer, but I don't call that a "portable" app).
With Java, the standard libraries are way more usefull than the common set of C libraries... (especially if you take the common set between *nix and windows;-))
For the PHP/Python/Java/$LANGUAGE I don't really care. But please don't tell me C is portable. Hello world compile on any language. As soon as you start fancy stuff, you're bounded by the library you're using.
The problem with BSD is that it doesn't have enough visibility (or at least less visibility that Linux). Why is linux getting all that good press is the real puzzlement.
On a large application / heavy loaded server, it makes no doubt that BSD is a lot better than Linux, but on the desktop the problem is not the same
The huge number of drivers support can partially explain the popularity of Linux on the desktop, and if the MS saga has proven anything, that is desktop leads to server, because it provides a good visibility in everybody's mind.
Because: 1. They suck 2. Their OS suck 3. It's so much easier to put together a cluster of Windows machines when you don't know a lot about it that a cluster of *nix.
Seriously though, a *good* Windows admin cost probably as much as a good *nix admin
I'm always wondering why doesn't people use Java for such large developments... If tomorrow Linux is declared illegal because of the SCO suit (very unlikely though), you just reinstall FreeBSD and keep on going.
Multi-platform is an invaluable freedom on such projects where deployment and operating costs are so high
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From the end customer standpoint, BETA is dead.
;-)
I should have probably used the VHS vs. V200 analogy. This one stands correct!
There is a changing preference from the journalists, but basically, here are the technical facts:
...). If you click on DVD-R, you get 1484 results. Click on DVD+R: 1045 player only matches.
1. You usually find faster burners for +R than for -R (in the order of 2.4 vs. 2)
2. DVD-R plays in a wider range of set top boxes / Video dvd players. This means that the movies of your holidays that you're going to burn will play on a wider ranges of video players with the -R technology than the +R.
For an evidence of my assertion, go to http://www.dvdrhelp.com/ and click on "DVD-Players" on the left. This list represent "all" the DVD players available on the market since the creation of the DVD-Video (or pretty close) and can tell you which DVD player plays which formats (DVD-R, DVD+R, CDRW, CDR,
3. DVD-R are cheaper than DVD+R, DVD-RW are cheaper than DVD+RW. Just go check the prices on amazon.com or anywhere else (Amazon might not be the best example)
4. DVD+R is backed up by bigger companies with bigger bucks than DVD-R. This explains IMHO the good press that DVD+R is having these days. It will probably not help them impose their standard as "THE" standard.
5. Most DVD-R burners read DVD+R, where most DVD+R burners don't read DVD-R. Another good reason to buy a DVD-R burner: You can read every single DVD burned.
Giving that, I bought a Pioneer A04 19 months ago and I don't regret it. Even if DVD-R is to die (and I doubt it) I will not regret having bought a DVD-R.
As I said, my DVD-R are DVDs, they will play forever (or at least for as long as they last as a media) in any (or most) DVD player.
This is probably the worst reoundup I've ever seen.
Fomr the article:
DVD- is said to be less compatible than DVD+
This is actually the opposite of EVERYTHING else I've read about DVDs.
DVD- is slower
That depends on the burners out there, not on the media itself.
DVD- is having 70% of the market
That's the first time I hear figures of marketshare and it's good to see that the best media is gaining ground on it's competitor. But if it is as accurate as the two assertions above....
Ahhh.... horrible roundup. The only thing looks accurate is the burning speed, and who cares between 6.5 minutes and 5.9 ???
I would have liked to see compatibility tests and other interesting things.
Ok, I'll try and explain it once more.
Let's take the analogy of VHS vs. Betamax. People that went with the (now dead) Betamax format are screwed now because all their tape are as good as dead. In this case going eith the technically superior format was a mistake.
How come the DVD format war doesn't apply here?
You CAN read a DVD-R on a DVD+R drive. You CAN read a DVD+R on a DVD-R drive.
Now let's say you buy a DVD-R (because it's technically superior). All DVD players (ROM, boxes, Video etc...) will ALWAYS support your format. In fact you can read your DVD-R in most DVD players that were release before the DVD-R discs even existed.
So when DVD-R is going to die (if that ever happens), all your DVD-R that you have burned in the meantime (music, movies, data, etc...) are still going to play in ALL the players out there.
That's the main difference between DVD and VCR analogy. When Betamax died, you couldn't watch your videotapes anywhere because you needed a BETAMAX VCR to read them.
In the case of DVD-R or DVD+R, you don't need a DVD+R or DVD-R drive to read them, you need a DVD Drive. And they are not likely to die soon.
But why bother. I already explained that in your parent post. You probably didn't read through it anyways. So you're not likely to read through this one either...
Who is going to be the standard is irrelevant. -R has a better support on existing devices, cheaper media and all devices (existing and future) are going to be able to read it.
Where's the risk on buying a DVD-R ?
Even if +R wins the battle in the end, who cares? All your DVD-Rs are not going to the trash can: You can still read them on every device. And you're going to find blank media for some time anyways.
Now if you want to buy the more expensive and less compatible standard, go ahead...
I like most of my generation grew up watching the Smurfs. I loved them so much that I tuned in every Saturday morning to see what crazy hijinks those lovable little blue creatures would get up to.
I did too. In my country I was addicted to the Comic Book, not the cartoon, but the same idea is there.
It is just now that I have realized what I was really tuning into each and every Saturday morning was actuallty COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA!! Yes that is correct, Papa Smurf and all of his little Smurf minions are not the happy little characters Hanna Barbara would have us believe! The cartoon was really created by the Russian government in order to indoctrinate the youngest members of western society with communist beliefs and ideals thus destroying their resistance to the imminent Russian invasion that was to occur when this generation (my generation) grew up.
The comic is belgian, not Russian. BTW, You'll notice that most of the children stories are communist "everyone is nice and beautiful" (Teletubbies anyone?). Except the notable exception of GI-Joe as you mention below.
To prove my point I submit that 1.) They live in a communal village and are discouraged to leave the village without the company of their fellow Smurfs.
Oh, come on. These nice little creatures live in such a beautiful harmony. Besides, Gargamel is waiting for them so it is just a wise idea to not get out alone.
2.) Every Smurf has his own specific job and does not deviate from that job. The job even becomes part of their personality and even their name (Brainy Smurf, Handy Smurf, etc.)
Does that reminds you of snow white and the seven dwarfs? Jewel of the American culture... well, since the Sonny Bono Act, Jewel of the Walt Disney Corp. for a little longer.
3.) If ever a Smurf decides to strike out on his own he is cast into danger in some way of another, and it is up to the collective to save him.
Communism is perhaps not that bad. Again, it is a survival defense mechanism. Keep in mind the Izrael cat and it's evil master. It's a dangerous world out there.
4.) Papa Smurf looks an awful lot like Karl Marx plus, he wears all that red.
I couldn't get used to him, that is true. This guy thinks he is the wisest of all, and this thought alone screws it up!!!!
And let us not forget Smurfette, the lone female Smurf and the embodiment of community property.
I could see the Smurfette as the "Poison Ivy" symbol of Capitalism in the whole thing.
This has to be the stupidiest post ever... um, oh wait, that was the grand-parent of this one... oh well.
Linus would have seen every line of code
Sure, so what?
I mean EVERY line
Sure, so what ?
It's probably pretty easy for him to spot something that he didn't approve for the mainstream kernel.
Ok, so you mean if some code is infringing SCO patents/copyright, he wouldn't have approved it.
Let's say an IBM engineer submits a change that is actually a copy paste from the SCO codebase. How would Linus know about that? How would he know the engineer did not came up with the algorithm himself but copied it from some source Linus doesn't have access to?
Dude, you need to think before writing.
I know that I can go through stuff I've written over the years and easily tell you when I made changes
Would be relevant if Linus wrote every single line of the kernel. But irrelevant in the current situation, you have to give me this one.
and why and how every line of code works
Every line of code works for a very good reason, whether it is original of CCed from SCO codebase.
That one is probably one of the valid reason I didn't think about. Very possible and very wise in fact.
This has to be the most stupid post ever.
How could he find something infringing when he doesn't know the code it's supposed to infringe ?
Can you tell me how he could possibly know if IBM put some of SCO's code into Linux!!!!!!! Except if he has its own copy of the SCO code of course...
Well, don't you find it suspicious that Linus comes up with this after such a long time !?!?
It sounds weird to me. Why didn't he say that in the first place ?
Do you work for Sun on the Solaris Kernel to be able to assert that ?
Mozilla is not the best browser out there anyways. Opera is even better (faster, les memory usage, better support on some CSS stuff....)
You can't even hide a row of a table in DHTML. Actually, hiding works but you can't show it properly again... A ROW in a TABLE, dammit!!! That's basics!!
BTW, I'm interested to know if Mozilla will ever support VML... A very simple and lightweight way of drawing vectors/graphs/... that IE supports natively since IE5.
On this one I must say that IE is ahead of its competitors, and if the company I'm working for does only support IE that's for a very good reason.
I don't think so. You can distribute any GPL product with your OS without making it open.
They would have to make public the modifications they did on the driver itself to integrate it to the kernel, but not the kernel itself!
Je t'excuse, c'etait pas de problemme.
;)
;-)
1. problemme doesn't take 2 'm', and take a grave accent on the 'e': Problème.
2. c'etait is an ugly (and unused) shortcut for 'ça n'était'. When the negative is used, the 'n' has to be added.
Et merci pour votre bonté...c'etait ma plaisir
1. again, etait is 'était'
2. plaisir is a masculine word and so the correct thing to say is: c'était mon plaisir
3. 'c'etait ma plaisir' is a literal translation for 'it was my pleasure' that doesn't have any sense in french (at least France's french).
Maybe I can give you a couple of french lesson. You can pay me with English lessons in return, what about that ?
Both of you speak a terrible french, but that's not my point....
As soon as you tack another word onto that verb, you get a phrase.
"bombard clue", "fork bombard" and "eat bombard like red" must all be valid phrases then, right?
Je vous excuse tout les deux. Vous ecrire m'a fait le plus grand bien.
How is that going to work out with California's Rolling Black-Out?
One block is going to be shut down and all their neighboors will provide power through the LAN...
Another bad thing for tge PG&E...
Almost. He said the BSD license is a dead end, not the OS.
What drives the language any enterprise app is written in is more the language the designing cell (read: the people starting the project) knows and think is the best.
Java has a good visibility/press right now and that's probably the only reason it's so much used these days.
First off, believe it or not, ANSI C is pretty darned portable
;-))
You've said it! You have to port C code!! Java is cross-platform by design, not portable.
On the other hand, porting C code is just a matter of making sure the library you use on OS A is also ported on OS B. For example porting an X app on windows is not possible (well, you can rewrite your GUI layer, but I don't call that a "portable" app).
With Java, the standard libraries are way more usefull than the common set of C libraries... (especially if you take the common set between *nix and windows
For the PHP/Python/Java/$LANGUAGE I don't really care. But please don't tell me C is portable. Hello world compile on any language. As soon as you start fancy stuff, you're bounded by the library you're using.
The problem with BSD is that it doesn't have enough visibility (or at least less visibility that Linux). Why is linux getting all that good press is the real puzzlement.
On a large application / heavy loaded server, it makes no doubt that BSD is a lot better than Linux, but on the desktop the problem is not the same
The huge number of drivers support can partially explain the popularity of Linux on the desktop, and if the MS saga has proven anything, that is desktop leads to server, because it provides a good visibility in everybody's mind.
That is correct. I guess the point is: Who cares which OS??
When a better one will pop up, we'll just switch and everything will still work fine...
Windows admins make a lot less than *nix admins
Because:
1. They suck
2. Their OS suck
3. It's so much easier to put together a cluster of Windows machines when you don't know a lot about it that a cluster of *nix.
Seriously though, a *good* Windows admin cost probably as much as a good *nix admin
I'm always wondering why doesn't people use Java for such large developments... If tomorrow Linux is declared illegal because of the SCO suit (very unlikely though), you just reinstall FreeBSD and keep on going.
Multi-platform is an invaluable freedom on such projects where deployment and operating costs are so high
According to the judgement, they did.
You've got to be kidding me right? Stealing CP/M from Digital Research was their first move...
I have mozilla 1.2.1 and that works. It's not a new feature!