"other licenses that force one to take specific actions based on others morality"
Jesus, can we put this to rest? Nobody comes to your house with a gun to make you use GPL'd code. You agree to the terms of the GPL IFF you use their code. Don't like it? Don't use it.
"Force" means something specific, and it has nothing to do with Yoda.
We are mining one tiny facet of Earth's fuel stores almost to the point of it being inconvenient to mine more. Depletion? Someday. 50-100 years. But we'll be getting smarter, and production costs will continue to go down.
You do understand that India was supposed to bankrupt the world's food supply about 15 years ago, right? Somehow that didn't happen. Why? We grew. We adapted. This will continue to happen.
The power output of one sun, or even a million suns, is a trivial fraction of a fraction of the energy available in this galaxy, let alone the Universe. We're not going to be going far on sublight vessels, that's for sure. We'll have to think of something more efficient.
But, in the next 100 years, that question is totally immaterial. The Romans couldn't wring their hands about how hard it would be to get to the moon, because they had about zero of the required technologies. Now, it's a relatively straightforward (though challenging) engineering process.
Relativity? Yeah. It's a problem. Round trips are not feasible. That's the way the Universe crumbles.
Am I to understand you that we should not pursue nuclear energy here on Earth because it's hard to make big things move interstellar distances at near-light speed?
Seeds floating on air are taking energy out of the atmosphere. Somehow, the world keeps on turnin'. Why? Because the world is really, really, really, really, really big relative to a seed.
Do you know how much bigger than your ship the universe is? really^really^really^really^100,000,000,000,000^a lot.
It's a good thing we've got xenophobia and hatred of people that disagree with us down to a nice fine level of resolution. Because, of course, nobody that disagrees with me could possibly be a good person who, in good conscience, has come to a different conclusion than I have. No, better to hate them and say they're bad/stupid/poorly educated.
I certainly DO believe that another four years of the current administration is going to make my country less secure and less strong, but I will at least concede that it is possible that the people doing the leading are doing so honorably.
Since the next President is going to appoint at least two Supreme Court justices, and the Republicans have strengthened their grip on the legislature, it's not a very long step to "tyrant with supreme authority". It's certainly to the level of "able to destroy a large number of the freedoms we used to enjoy".
I buy the product, take it home, take off the shrink wrap, try to install the thing, get a license agreement I don't like, take it back to the store, they say "Sorry! We don't accept returns on opened software. Have a nice day!"
Does contract law not require consideration on the part of both parties? What consideration have the manufacturers shown me? Only that they like my money.
You are awful sweet for getting me that nice quote, though. Here. Have a cookie.
I appreciate the tip. I'm aware of how the iPod file structure works. It's a little different since I've got mine formatted for Windows and I use it on my Mac.
But yeah, it's simple to get the files off, but I do understand the point...Apple is fighting a losing battle, and they should tell RIAA to go screw.
Here's my click-through license. I don't agree to any click-through license ever. I say "I do not agree!" aloud, and anybody who happens to be in the room with me can hear it. Then I click on the button that happens to make the installer continues (that happens to be labeled "Agree", but doesn't mean anything) and continue to use the software as I deem fit.
There is no "may be" about it. I signed nothing. No agreement exists.
They might think there's a licensing agreement (although I've never seen one apart from the click-through on iTunes, which is not valid as I haven't signed it) but that doesn't mean there is one.
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Uh huh. Still there. Still sucks.
History question.
Is Arlo Rose the guy who wrote Aaron, the precursor to Kaleidoscope that put a Copland-style UI skin on System 7?
If so, he has zero room to talk about people stealing ideas and artwork.
"creative distinction" is irrelevant. "Good design" is not.
"other licenses that force one to take specific actions based on others morality"
Jesus, can we put this to rest? Nobody comes to your house with a gun to make you use GPL'd code. You agree to the terms of the GPL IFF you use their code. Don't like it? Don't use it.
"Force" means something specific, and it has nothing to do with Yoda.
I think anybody who writes anything is going to have to get used to the idea that creativity does not entitle them to a revenue stream.
We are mining one tiny facet of Earth's fuel stores almost to the point of it being inconvenient to mine more. Depletion? Someday. 50-100 years. But we'll be getting smarter, and production costs will continue to go down.
You do understand that India was supposed to bankrupt the world's food supply about 15 years ago, right? Somehow that didn't happen. Why? We grew. We adapted. This will continue to happen.
The power output of one sun, or even a million suns, is a trivial fraction of a fraction of the energy available in this galaxy, let alone the Universe. We're not going to be going far on sublight vessels, that's for sure. We'll have to think of something more efficient.
But, in the next 100 years, that question is totally immaterial. The Romans couldn't wring their hands about how hard it would be to get to the moon, because they had about zero of the required technologies. Now, it's a relatively straightforward (though challenging) engineering process.
Relativity? Yeah. It's a problem. Round trips are not feasible. That's the way the Universe crumbles.
Am I to understand you that we should not pursue nuclear energy here on Earth because it's hard to make big things move interstellar distances at near-light speed?
Your point doesn't exactly track.
And, somehow, even though we all live on a rock that's FULL of fissile material, civilization happened.
It's just some hot rocks, people. Put them in a hole and forget about them.
Seeds floating on air are taking energy out of the atmosphere. Somehow, the world keeps on turnin'. Why? Because the world is really, really, really, really, really big relative to a seed.
Do you know how much bigger than your ship the universe is? really^really^really^really^100,000,000,000,000^a lot.
"noticeable dent"? Nonsense.
If I were speaking to a human, I would be bound.
If I were signing a contract, I would be bound.
Clicking on a button written by a company who has never heard of me is not binding.
It's a good thing we've got xenophobia and hatred of people that disagree with us down to a nice fine level of resolution. Because, of course, nobody that disagrees with me could possibly be a good person who, in good conscience, has come to a different conclusion than I have. No, better to hate them and say they're bad/stupid/poorly educated.
I certainly DO believe that another four years of the current administration is going to make my country less secure and less strong, but I will at least concede that it is possible that the people doing the leading are doing so honorably.
Yes, that's a huge benefit of the doubt...
"Keep telling yourself that you just need to fool the people more, and fight dirtier. See how far it gets you."
Karl Rove has made his career doing exactly that.
Since the next President is going to appoint at least two Supreme Court justices, and the Republicans have strengthened their grip on the legislature, it's not a very long step to "tyrant with supreme authority". It's certainly to the level of "able to destroy a large number of the freedoms we used to enjoy".
"Our Nikes"? You mean the ones manufactured in third-world sweatshops? Yeah, I'm real proud of those.
The fact that you use "third parties" in the plural should tell you something about the electability of those parties' candidates.
Nevergonnahappen until we get some real serious change in the election system in this country.
I'm going to totally ignore your guns n' bullets thing. It couldn't be less relevant.
What is illegal about copying music I bought from one hard drive I own to another?
OK, so you define terrorism as "That which white people don't do"...uh huh. You are DEFINITELY Bush's type.
Same here. My interim clearance was denied, and I can't get anybody to tell me why. So, basically, I can't work in the aerospace industry.
To say this bothers me is a really phenomenal understatement.
I buy the product, take it home, take off the shrink wrap, try to install the thing, get a license agreement I don't like, take it back to the store, they say "Sorry! We don't accept returns on opened software. Have a nice day!"
Does contract law not require consideration on the part of both parties? What consideration have the manufacturers shown me? Only that they like my money.
You are awful sweet for getting me that nice quote, though. Here. Have a cookie.
I appreciate the tip. I'm aware of how the iPod file structure works. It's a little different since I've got mine formatted for Windows and I use it on my Mac.
But yeah, it's simple to get the files off, but I do understand the point...Apple is fighting a losing battle, and they should tell RIAA to go screw.
Here's my click-through license. I don't agree to any click-through license ever. I say "I do not agree!" aloud, and anybody who happens to be in the room with me can hear it. Then I click on the button that happens to make the installer continues (that happens to be labeled "Agree", but doesn't mean anything) and continue to use the software as I deem fit.
He's a) a nutbag and b) unelectable.
Next?
You're right. A handshake would do just as well, but I've never met Mr. Jobs, so that didn't happen either.
How is that going to change the status quo?
Hint: It won't.
There is no "may be" about it. I signed nothing. No agreement exists.
They might think there's a licensing agreement (although I've never seen one apart from the click-through on iTunes, which is not valid as I haven't signed it) but that doesn't mean there is one.
Wait, are YOU trying to suggest that there is no /. overmind, and that two people who post here might have different opinions?
No, you're not, so you're silly.