So you went out and bought yourself the biggest truck you could find, that you're not comfortable driving, and it's the technology's fault. Uh huh. Glad you can't be held responsible for being competent to operate the machine you've bought. That might be, I dunno...inconvenient.
Look, Cletus. The problem exists between the steering column and your fucking naugahyde bench seat.
Requiring the human to be in the loop, but not doing anything, is a recipe for disaster.
The system should be failsafe WITHOUT a person in the loop, or else it's not good enough. When the system is in "automated" mode, the driver should be able to read a damn paper or take a nap.
Think about it...what is your reaction time like when you're fully paying attention to driving? Most people are between half and three-quarters of a second. What is your reaction time going to be like when your car has lulled you into complacency by not crashing for four hours, even though you're not controlling it? You CAN'T maintain your focus for that long unless you're actively in the control loop.
There is nothing less alert than somebody who is monitoring an automated system. It's extremely fatiguing.
I wouldn't be in the drivers' seat of any vehicle that I was responsible for, but not controlling. I'd much rather be actively scanning and reacting to my environment than being a nursemaid to a system that can do most of the work.
The highway should be either 100% automated, or not at all. Cruise control is fine, since I still need to steer (which keeps me attentive).
Much better would be a system like in many fly-by-wire fighters. If the plane decides that it's in a dangerous attitude with an unconscious pilot (maybe they just pulled a big turn and are in G-LOC) the aircraft automatically levels its wings and starts a gentle climb. And starts sounding alarms. "Wake up, asshole!"
No, really. Freeways are absurdly dense with fast-moving machinery relative to even today's constrictive air traffic system. With some relatively straightforward doctrinal changes, it would be pretty easy to maintain miles between any two airborne objects.
Why don't you filter it out? You know, use that two and a half pounds of pattern recognition meat you carry around in your skull? Is somebody MAKING you post in discussions you don't want to have?
Hmm. Just the other day, somebody was complaining about the left wing bias of/. That tells me something must be going right.
Me? I'm pretty conservative/libertarian with a big ol' streak of good old fashioned social justice in me. I hate the Republicans and Democrats pretty well always, and I think the Libertarians have a few good ideas and a bunch of crazy ones. No other party I've investigated seems to have any more of a clue than that.
I've got two pages of fans, half a page of freaks. My friends and foes are about the same ratio.
So there goes your ridiculous and meaningless dichotomy. Maybe if you tried to relate to people as people, instead of rating them based on how much they agree with you, you might have a richer and fuller understanding of the other meat sacks you share this rock with.
But hey...don't let me get in the way of your hatin'. Feel free to go ahead and put me on your foe list. I won't lose any sleep.
This is just an effect of capitalism isn't it? The 10% have to be doing well so that it gives the 90% some incentive to work harder. We're not going to be solving that one in the near future.
No. Enron is not the epitome of capitalism. Small business is the epitome of capitalism. Small business also drives the US economy, which also drives the economy of most of the planet.
You show me an automobile component, I can make a copy. I can make one that's arbitrarily strong. I can probably make one that's optimized differently than the manufacturer, resulting in a different set of performance characteristics. (Some people call that "tuning", and make a whole hell of a lot of money doing it.)
I'm not at all sure what your detour into "software logic" is supposed to mean, but it's certainly not germane to my point.
Rocket scientist your own ass. I don't swing that way.
I've got a better idea. Before starting to require things willy nilly, let's go ahead and figure out which of these miracle technologies actually work properly with pilot programs, OK? That way we can avoid disasters like gasoline additives that are more harmful to the environment than gasoline pollution.
Since the handle is the one piece of the refrigerator you're going to deal with every single time you're near the damn thing, that seems like a very rational thing to hinge a decision on.
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Oh come now. The US Bureau of Labor can't get their methodology right year to year. You're telling me that Sweden uses the same metric?
Craziness.
Again: You think their system is better, go to it. As broken as our SS/Medicare system is, it is better than socialism.
Where does Sweden get their medical technology?
Wanna go live in Sweden? Knock yourself out.
What do your sources tell you about the "can't be bothered to get a job because the public dole is good enough" factor?
What do you think is the logical extension of that?
Capitalism in the US is a bad idea. Socialism is worse.
So you went out and bought yourself the biggest truck you could find, that you're not comfortable driving, and it's the technology's fault. Uh huh. Glad you can't be held responsible for being competent to operate the machine you've bought. That might be, I dunno...inconvenient.
Look, Cletus. The problem exists between the steering column and your fucking naugahyde bench seat.
Requiring the human to be in the loop, but not doing anything, is a recipe for disaster.
The system should be failsafe WITHOUT a person in the loop, or else it's not good enough. When the system is in "automated" mode, the driver should be able to read a damn paper or take a nap.
Think about it...what is your reaction time like when you're fully paying attention to driving? Most people are between half and three-quarters of a second. What is your reaction time going to be like when your car has lulled you into complacency by not crashing for four hours, even though you're not controlling it? You CAN'T maintain your focus for that long unless you're actively in the control loop.
There is nothing less alert than somebody who is monitoring an automated system. It's extremely fatiguing.
I wouldn't be in the drivers' seat of any vehicle that I was responsible for, but not controlling. I'd much rather be actively scanning and reacting to my environment than being a nursemaid to a system that can do most of the work.
The highway should be either 100% automated, or not at all. Cruise control is fine, since I still need to steer (which keeps me attentive).
Much better would be a system like in many fly-by-wire fighters. If the plane decides that it's in a dangerous attitude with an unconscious pilot (maybe they just pulled a big turn and are in G-LOC) the aircraft automatically levels its wings and starts a gentle climb. And starts sounding alarms. "Wake up, asshole!"
Do you know how big the sky is?
No, really. Freeways are absurdly dense with fast-moving machinery relative to even today's constrictive air traffic system. With some relatively straightforward doctrinal changes, it would be pretty easy to maintain miles between any two airborne objects.
Discussing anything with people who hew to Chomsky's non-interventionist ideals is a good way to get called stupid and violent. No thanks.
Sweden's tax rates go into the three digits. You can have it.
Why don't you filter it out? You know, use that two and a half pounds of pattern recognition meat you carry around in your skull? Is somebody MAKING you post in discussions you don't want to have?
Constructive criticism? "DO EVERYTHING MY WAY, OR YOU ARE EVIL" is not constructive criticism.
I'm pretty stupid, so you might need to use small words.
What was Kerry's war crime?
Hmm. Just the other day, somebody was complaining about the left wing bias of /. That tells me something must be going right.
Me? I'm pretty conservative/libertarian with a big ol' streak of good old fashioned social justice in me. I hate the Republicans and Democrats pretty well always, and I think the Libertarians have a few good ideas and a bunch of crazy ones. No other party I've investigated seems to have any more of a clue than that.
I've got two pages of fans, half a page of freaks. My friends and foes are about the same ratio.
So there goes your ridiculous and meaningless dichotomy. Maybe if you tried to relate to people as people, instead of rating them based on how much they agree with you, you might have a richer and fuller understanding of the other meat sacks you share this rock with.
But hey...don't let me get in the way of your hatin'. Feel free to go ahead and put me on your foe list. I won't lose any sleep.
Dan Simmons was interesting?
Wow. Guess there's room for all kinds... : )
I don't know about you, but page 1 of Snow Crash had me totally riveted.
No sarcasm: I loved that fucking chapter.
...which Stephenson didn't opt to include in his (very long!) manuscript.
I certainly wouldn't describe them as "loose ends", though....
That presupposes that We the People get to make a meaningful choice of our leaders.
As long as we are choosing between a Republican and a Democrat for every single office, we do not get such a meaningful choice.
Cool...sounds like a good system.
No. Enron is not the epitome of capitalism. Small business is the epitome of capitalism. Small business also drives the US economy, which also drives the economy of most of the planet.
If a 50 year slate roof costs more than 2.5x as expensive as a 20 year roof, it's not a good deal.
Slate is incredibly costly.
What do you do when it's substantially below freezing, and cloudy, and you've got a 55 gal barrel of ice?
Thermal engineering is not trivial. That's why it's expensive.
Bull yourself.
You show me an automobile component, I can make a copy. I can make one that's arbitrarily strong. I can probably make one that's optimized differently than the manufacturer, resulting in a different set of performance characteristics. (Some people call that "tuning", and make a whole hell of a lot of money doing it.)
I'm not at all sure what your detour into "software logic" is supposed to mean, but it's certainly not germane to my point.
Rocket scientist your own ass. I don't swing that way.
I've got a better idea. Before starting to require things willy nilly, let's go ahead and figure out which of these miracle technologies actually work properly with pilot programs, OK? That way we can avoid disasters like gasoline additives that are more harmful to the environment than gasoline pollution.
Thanks for the info! I'll read about it and evaluate my position.
I don't know what you mean by "whipped". I do all the cooking for my girlfriend, and somehow manage to keep a hold of my masculine identity.
I knew it was a theoretical problem, but I was curious if it was a real, practical issue.
Thanks for the info.
Since the handle is the one piece of the refrigerator you're going to deal with every single time you're near the damn thing, that seems like a very rational thing to hinge a decision on.