What high horse? I'm still trying to figure out what a "real" instrument is. You're the one being all oblique.
"CRAP being the norm from the major players in the music industry is what is being discussed, and my point being that there is a LOT more of it now than there ever has been before, and MOST of it is cookie cutter digitally made garbage."
Crap is always the norm. I don't care about the major players in the music industry, and the partial fraction of good stuff is largely irrelevant, as long as there's more of it than I could ever conceivably listen to, which is the case.
I don't know what "digitally made" has to do with "cookie cutter garbage". I seriously don't understand that. There are musicians who would assert that it's not a musical instrument if you have to plug it in, and I think they're equally short-sighted.
I'm not defending ANYTHING. I don't happen to like Top 40 music, either. But there's way more good music than I have time to listen to, and I'm more interested in finding good stuff than complaining about the fact that there exists crap.
90% of everything is crap. If it used to be 89%, and now it's 91%, who cares?
No. Tiptronic still has all the disadvantages and inefficiencies of automatic transmission. Being able to pick gears is not the prime virtue. Efficient operation is the prime virtue. (For me.)
"Which is why you don't understand that a lot of people think "music" today is horrible"
What YOU don't understand is that this is a generational argument that has been around since people banged sticks on rocks.
"but I prefer to listen to musicians when I want to hear music."
That's a tautology. What you probably meant was "I prefer to listen to styles of music I like and understand, performed by musicians who use instruments whose sounds I find pleasing." Which is just fine. What's NOT fine is trying to arrogate yourself as The Decider on What Is Music.
The ONLY relevant indicator is one's own, personal taste.
I don't know what "deciant" means, but that certainly doesn't describe my Craigslist use. It's almost like a community can be different things to different people...
Mmmkay. Or we could get more reasonably priced record albums. Me? I just don't buy bad music, and I won't spend $15-50 on a CD. (These are two separate criteria.) That's MY market, and anybody who wants to sell me music will play by my rules.
Or not.
No skin off my nose. My money can stay in my pocket.
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"I think you know what I mean,"
No, not really, I don't.
"and I don't want to have the particular discussion that could easily ensue here."
OK. Guess I won't waste your time.
Me? I think anything an artist wants to use to make art is just fine. I get to decide whether I like it or not, without making normative statements about the "realness" of their chosen tool and medium.
There's lots of bad art. I still don't understand what a "not real" musical instrument looks like.
Um, he pays the used CD store for it. If the artist didn't want to have CDs sold on the secondary market, they should not have sold it in the first place.
"Your average person knows NOTHING about a camera."
Your average person knows nothing about your average subject. I don't really understand the significance, or the ire, of your post. Do they somehow hurt you because they don't know as much about their camera as you do?
No, just his credibility. And his integrity. I remember being shocked that he was on a real news channel, but then turned my conclusion around and decided it was not a real news channel.
That's a silly assertion. I believe in God, and I count myself a very good thinker. As a matter of fact, I think my highest duty to God is to employ and improve my brain, as I think human cognition is a marvelous and sublime thing.
Here's the rub, though: My faith is not a rational construct, and I don't expect or desire anybody to agree with me.
Noah's Flood is a bedtime story. Which is more plausible? A flood covers every place the teller of the story had ever heard of, or the entire land area of Earth was covered by 40 feet of water?
"You see, science is very "confortable" as it only tells what people already know giving a different explaniation."
Which answer leads to more thinking?
"The sky is blue because God thinks blue is pretty"
"The sky is blue because the water vapor in the atmosphere refracts incident sunlight in such a way that we see more blue wavelengths than other wavelengths."
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What high horse? I'm still trying to figure out what a "real" instrument is. You're the one being all oblique.
"CRAP being the norm from the major players in the music industry is what is being discussed, and my point being that there is a LOT more of it now than there ever has been before, and MOST of it is cookie cutter digitally made garbage."
Crap is always the norm. I don't care about the major players in the music industry, and the partial fraction of good stuff is largely irrelevant, as long as there's more of it than I could ever conceivably listen to, which is the case.
I don't know what "digitally made" has to do with "cookie cutter garbage". I seriously don't understand that. There are musicians who would assert that it's not a musical instrument if you have to plug it in, and I think they're equally short-sighted.
I'm not defending ANYTHING. I don't happen to like Top 40 music, either. But there's way more good music than I have time to listen to, and I'm more interested in finding good stuff than complaining about the fact that there exists crap.
90% of everything is crap. If it used to be 89%, and now it's 91%, who cares?
Call me crazy.
I'm going to get off your lawn now.
No. Tiptronic still has all the disadvantages and inefficiencies of automatic transmission. Being able to pick gears is not the prime virtue. Efficient operation is the prime virtue. (For me.)
"what you do is severely limited by the position of the window"
So what do you do when your manual window fails? The same thing as people with automatic windows: Repair it.
"Which is why you don't understand that a lot of people think "music" today is horrible"
What YOU don't understand is that this is a generational argument that has been around since people banged sticks on rocks.
"but I prefer to listen to musicians when I want to hear music."
That's a tautology. What you probably meant was "I prefer to listen to styles of music I like and understand, performed by musicians who use instruments whose sounds I find pleasing." Which is just fine. What's NOT fine is trying to arrogate yourself as The Decider on What Is Music.
The ONLY relevant indicator is one's own, personal taste.
I don't know what "deciant" means, but that certainly doesn't describe my Craigslist use. It's almost like a community can be different things to different people...
Thank you for clarifying. I'm always curious about word use in different countries...sometimes, the answers surprise you.
Quick question...
Does "bookmaker" mean the same thing in Europe that it does in America? Do you manufacture reading materials, or place bets on sporting events?
Mmmkay. Or we could get more reasonably priced record albums. Me? I just don't buy bad music, and I won't spend $15-50 on a CD. (These are two separate criteria.) That's MY market, and anybody who wants to sell me music will play by my rules.
Or not.
No skin off my nose. My money can stay in my pocket.
"I think you know what I mean,"
No, not really, I don't.
"and I don't want to have the particular discussion that could easily ensue here."
OK. Guess I won't waste your time.
Me? I think anything an artist wants to use to make art is just fine. I get to decide whether I like it or not, without making normative statements about the "realness" of their chosen tool and medium.
There's lots of bad art. I still don't understand what a "not real" musical instrument looks like.
"Robert X. Cringely says they are almost singlehandedly responsible for the death of the major newspapers."
If the only valuable thing in newspapers is the classifieds, then there's no reason for them to exist, is there?
"Rather a nice little product, the UI is just annoying rather that absoulutely terribly like an LG."
Um, there are some serious UI issues with this sentence. Could you please redesign it? Thank you.
So I could either a) try and remember a different web site that makes Yahoo work better, or b) use Google.
Hmm. This is a tough one.
If the market were in fact about awarding things you liked, instead of paying for goods and services, you might have a point.
But since it's not, you don't. Sorry.
Um, he pays the used CD store for it. If the artist didn't want to have CDs sold on the secondary market, they should not have sold it in the first place.
I completely fail to understand your point.
OK, I see what you're after, but I need some help with this part:
"a single real instrument in sight."
What is a "real" instrument?
" The more I learned about cameras, the more I realized how BAD people are at using them."
This is true for just about every field of human endeavor. The more you know, you know more than more people. This should not be a surprise.
I don't understand the utility of camera phones either, but if that's what works for people, it's no skin off my nose.
"Your average person knows NOTHING about a camera."
Your average person knows nothing about your average subject. I don't really understand the significance, or the ire, of your post. Do they somehow hurt you because they don't know as much about their camera as you do?
"didn't exactly kill Geraldo Rivera's career. "
No, just his credibility. And his integrity. I remember being shocked that he was on a real news channel, but then turned my conclusion around and decided it was not a real news channel.
That's a silly assertion. I believe in God, and I count myself a very good thinker. As a matter of fact, I think my highest duty to God is to employ and improve my brain, as I think human cognition is a marvelous and sublime thing.
Here's the rub, though: My faith is not a rational construct, and I don't expect or desire anybody to agree with me.
What "evidence" is there of the counter-claim?
Noah's Flood is a bedtime story. Which is more plausible? A flood covers every place the teller of the story had ever heard of, or the entire land area of Earth was covered by 40 feet of water?
Good thing that the universe isn't limited to your imagination then, huh?
"You see, science is very "confortable" as it only tells what people already know giving a different explaniation."
Which answer leads to more thinking?
"The sky is blue because God thinks blue is pretty"
"The sky is blue because the water vapor in the atmosphere refracts incident sunlight in such a way that we see more blue wavelengths than other wavelengths."
Thinking is good.
Brass would be way too soft to use as a wrench.