If you bought a deadbolt for your front door and it had a defects in it so often you had to buy a new lock every other day to prevent some kid with a stick of gum from getting in your house and steal all your stuff, what would you do?
Buy a different lock.
There are two parts to this. The server maker is responsible for not being as carefull as OpenBSD has proven that you can, the Admin is responsible for not doing his job right, and the script kiddie is responsible for breaking in.
Admins are unsaveable at this point, any fool can install a server and set up shop these days. Companies and kiddies should be punished. If you sold me a shit lock and some kid broken in my house, I would have the kid arrested and you, the lock seller, would be sued for any damage the kid did to my house.
If only our legislators could see that. But, noooo, MS is an 'innovator', Macs are 'toys', and Unix is for 'hobbists'. Great.
This has everything needed for a Slashdot article.
It mentions mp3s, a major company, the letters GPL, the word Linux, and the word violation all in the same sentence. It's sad.
It is really the proper venue for discussing any GPL violation. With all due respect to the readers of this page, a large number of them will do nothing more than FLAME compaq into the ground. Public humiliation should be a last resort, especially if you, by your own admission, aren't even sure if it is a GPL violation (that is, what the license is refering to). It is better to have the FSF, or the owner(s) of the copyrighted code quietly contact Compaq and ask them what's up rather than a have THOUSANDS of people with flame throwers contact them.
Grow up, Slashdot. You are in the big leagues now.
....and in other news, the RIAA has filed a lawsuit against Slashdot. An undisclose source in the RIAA reportedly said, "they need to learn to leave us the fuck alone, just how many times can they say we are sueing Napseter"....
Isn't there a law/act in the US that say's something along the lines that if you use your copyright to maintain a monolopy, you loose that copyright. Why doesn't this apply to the MPAA, RIAA, and their friends?
BEGIN_RANT
MPAA has a monolopy on DVD licensing, RIAA has a monolopy on music radio play (try to get a radio station to play music from a label that isn't part of the RIAA, ever hear Fugazi on the radio? I didn't think so. They regularly presell 300-400 Thousand records) and yet they can hide behind the DMCA to protect their monolopies.
With Realplayer, it's even more absurd. What exactly is copyrighted? The files? What if I created a RealPlayer based video, can I play it on anything I wanted or do they have the copyright on it? Do they have a copyright on the format? How can you copyright a format? Did they do this because they can't patent it? Isn't this all just abuse?
We have morons running the country who get paid by these fools during reelection who think that somehow having the ability to play DVD's or Realplayer files on the our choice of player is a bad idea, and having a monolopy having near 100% control over the music on the radio is a good idea.
Alright they want a "QuickTime MPEG-4" codec. Quicktime 5, due this fall, will have it. Why give away 50 grand for porting something to Quicktime that will be there by the time the contest is over?
1) All we need now is some 1337 $cr1pt k1dd13 to h4x0r American Express's web site and they will have ALL of AE's card numbers, not just a few thousands.
2) How long will it take someone to reverse engineer AE's algorithm for creation of CC numbers? All one has to do is h4X0r some shop that has a few thousand of these, and with some patience, I'm sure they can figure out how the number is created. Then they can start pumping out CC's all day long.
It's people like you who make people like me set my limits at 1 instead of 0. Personally, over half AC's have something worthy of saying and those who don't get moderated down, I read. Then you come along post and Off Topic reply to my post, it gets moderated down, then you post it again.
Don't be a dick. There is a time and place for everything.
Precedents are a funny thing. Even when a company can, in the long term, earn more capital via licencing agreements they will still sue so that they set a precedent. Now everyone will fear the wrath of UMI.
This is the same logic for going after 2600 in the MPAA lawsuit. Yeah DeCSS is EVERYWHERE, but when they release the successor to DVD, they will have a precedent to stop any reverse engineering of it. Keeping in mind, of course, they had a better chance of winning against 2600 (those EVIL hackers who do such things as posting security problems in a public forum, just like Microsoft does over at Bugtraq) than say the NYTimes. Even wonder why news organizations weren't in the lawsuit? They have better lawyers.
Unix was thriving long before Linux. Unix thrives inspite of Linux. Linux has little to nothing to do with Unix acceptability. Linux is the OS for a fanatic who thinks a license is more important to quality. If you want quality and you still want it to be Open Source, go to a BSD flavor.
KDE is GPL's. Stallman is showing that he thinks politics are more important than quality when he attacks KDE based solely on HIS perception of the licensing issues and not on some quality disadvantage. Licensing is not a moral issue. Stallman is showing just how fanatic he is by treating it as such.
Not necissarily. People are creatures of habit. They continue to do things because that is what they do.
Second, the law of supply and demand says the price will go up, not down. The higher the individual demand, the higher they can charge you, especially if all other retails base price on individual and not the group as a whole.
This is NOT a moral issue. Let me repeat. This is not a moral issue.
This is EXACTLY why Linux is NOT a desktop computer. GPL purists are so entangled in politics of some damn license that they refuse to step back and ask the simple question "does this, as shipped, meet the needs of the public", instead they ask, "does this, as shipped, meet the needs of the GPL". Who cares? I don't. OpenBSD doesn't and it still kicks Linux's ass as a server. It's quality not licensing that should determine popularity of software.
Stallman is nothing more than a foaming at the mouth, rabid GPL fanatic. He is so blinded by this politics, politics that have VERY little to do with the everday lives of those in the real world, that he is willing to slam KDE for not asking for forgivness.
All Stallman is interested in doing is discrediting KDE, because he wants to set a precedent. "I can run you into the ground if you don't lick my balls". Fuck him. Fuck his minion clones following his every move.
Okay, they can track you. They know when YOU are shopping. Now all they have to do is put that database to work. So when you decide, "Hey, I'll get my books's here, from now on". They can decide, "Hey he gets his books's here, let's charge him a dollar more than everyone else."
Interesting. This sounds like Walmart's "roll back" prices on speed. Imagine walking by a rack of cloths and the digital price display goes from $5 to $3 when you say the shirt is ugly, but you listen to a Stereo and comment on how good it shoulds the price jumps by $50.
btw..... I wonder how the German govt. is gonna react to this. Isn't this kind of thing (changing prices randomly) illegal in Germany?
Stallman. I really have little respect for him. He and his GPL purists friends are making OSS the laughing stock of the OS market. For crying out loud, I can 1) See the source of KDE and 2) redistribute a modified KDE as long as I release the source too. Sounds like the GPL to me.
The moment you base your software decisions based on the politics of it's source code and not on the usefullness of the code is the day that all code goes to hell.
Your "crap software" theory on Win2K crashes is an utter joke. You are kidding me right? So what you are telling me is that an Application can take down the system if the application is "crap"? The application isn't crap, the OS is. The entire design of Windows from the registry to the system of dll handling is utter garbage. An application should NEVER modify the system in any way. Period. An application should NEVER overwrite the system files with newer or older versions. Period. The OS should NEVER allow such activity to occur is it has been proven to cause system instablity. Period. If "crap software" such as "Netscape" and "RealPlayer" can take down Win2k, then it's Win2k's problem, not the software.
I do find it interesting that the applications you mentioned are ones which MS is interested in getting a complete monolopy hold on by bundling comparable services in Windows. Can someone say sabatoge?
For those who can't reason. VAResearch provides absolutely nothing that is necissary. Has no owership of any product that is in the majority (I think Ziff Davis' Linux books are higher revenue and there are more of them than VA's web site.s
Aol is providing a service where,in some markets, is a necissary product. It is definitely all the rage here in the US and some beleive it will replace TV.
Time Warner provides so many media services, that I pretty much guarantee you read or listen to thier products every week.
Try saying something that is comparable and relevent. Time Warner is BIG. It controls at least one news outlet that you read everyday. It controls at least one Music Label you listen to everyday. It controls a significant amount of the broadband market.
AOL controls what a majority of the US poplulation thinks the internet is. Internet != Web Browser.
Togethor they can provide all the news, radio, movies they want, have a complete strangle hold over what people will every see on the internet. Control every protocol, every packet, every codec, everything.
In the computer industry, it's about how many eyes you can get to and not about the quality of your product. Quite frankly your analogy doesn't compare.
..and tell the EU to butt out. Who are they to say what two American companies can do?>
Well, EU can't "say what two American companies can do", but they sure can regulate them so heavilty in Europe that they might as well be seperate entities.
Slashdot Mirror
Buy a different lock.
There are two parts to this. The server maker is responsible for not being as carefull as OpenBSD has proven that you can, the Admin is responsible for not doing his job right, and the script kiddie is responsible for breaking in.
Admins are unsaveable at this point, any fool can install a server and set up shop these days. Companies and kiddies should be punished. If you sold me a shit lock and some kid broken in my house, I would have the kid arrested and you, the lock seller, would be sued for any damage the kid did to my house.
If only our legislators could see that. But, noooo, MS is an 'innovator', Macs are 'toys', and Unix is for 'hobbists'. Great.
IT ONLY SCARES YOU BECAUSE IT'S THE TRUTH
It mentions mp3s, a major company, the letters GPL, the word Linux, and the word violation all in the same sentence. It's sad.
It is really the proper venue for discussing any GPL violation. With all due respect to the readers of this page, a large number of them will do nothing more than FLAME compaq into the ground. Public humiliation should be a last resort, especially if you, by your own admission, aren't even sure if it is a GPL violation (that is, what the license is refering to). It is better to have the FSF, or the owner(s) of the copyrighted code quietly contact Compaq and ask them what's up rather than a have THOUSANDS of people with flame throwers contact them.
Grow up, Slashdot. You are in the big leagues now.
Thanks, but no thanks.
Ummm..the quicktime 5 format IS the MPEG-4 codec.
....and in other news, the RIAA has filed a lawsuit against Slashdot. An undisclose source in the RIAA reportedly said, "they need to learn to leave us the fuck alone, just how many times can they say we are sueing Napseter"....
BEGIN_RANT
MPAA has a monolopy on DVD licensing, RIAA has a monolopy on music radio play (try to get a radio station to play music from a label that isn't part of the RIAA, ever hear Fugazi on the radio? I didn't think so. They regularly presell 300-400 Thousand records) and yet they can hide behind the DMCA to protect their monolopies.
With Realplayer, it's even more absurd. What exactly is copyrighted? The files? What if I created a RealPlayer based video, can I play it on anything I wanted or do they have the copyright on it? Do they have a copyright on the format? How can you copyright a format? Did they do this because they can't patent it? Isn't this all just abuse?
We have morons running the country who get paid by these fools during reelection who think that somehow having the ability to play DVD's or Realplayer files on the our choice of player is a bad idea, and having a monolopy having near 100% control over the music on the radio is a good idea.
Vote the bastards out
Alright they want a "QuickTime MPEG-4" codec. Quicktime 5, due this fall, will have it. Why give away 50 grand for porting something to Quicktime that will be there by the time the contest is over?
1) All we need now is some 1337 $cr1pt k1dd13 to h4x0r American Express's web site and they will have ALL of AE's card numbers, not just a few thousands.
2) How long will it take someone to reverse engineer AE's algorithm for creation of CC numbers? All one has to do is h4X0r some shop that has a few thousand of these, and with some patience, I'm sure they can figure out how the number is created. Then they can start pumping out CC's all day long.
This is progress?
Don't be a dick. There is a time and place for everything.
Re-read it slowly. It says: "atheos acording to this story kalisto was given stop options to cease releasing ripped dreamcast ISOs"
Pirate: j00 m$t B k1dd1ng m3, b1tch, ur $t0cK 1$ g01ng t0 b w0rthl3s s00n. P$x2 0wnz all.
Sega: How about if we give it too you?
Pirate: n0 th4nx
get a sense of humor you fool, second I posted this right after the trolls. try again
Ask him what the NSA's director likes to have for dinner. He should be able to answer that one.
This is the same logic for going after 2600 in the MPAA lawsuit. Yeah DeCSS is EVERYWHERE, but when they release the successor to DVD, they will have a precedent to stop any reverse engineering of it. Keeping in mind, of course, they had a better chance of winning against 2600 (those EVIL hackers who do such things as posting security problems in a public forum, just like Microsoft does over at Bugtraq) than say the NYTimes. Even wonder why news organizations weren't in the lawsuit? They have better lawyers.
KDE is GPL's. Stallman is showing that he thinks politics are more important than quality when he attacks KDE based solely on HIS perception of the licensing issues and not on some quality disadvantage. Licensing is not a moral issue. Stallman is showing just how fanatic he is by treating it as such.
Second, the law of supply and demand says the price will go up, not down. The higher the individual demand, the higher they can charge you, especially if all other retails base price on individual and not the group as a whole.
This is EXACTLY why Linux is NOT a desktop computer. GPL purists are so entangled in politics of some damn license that they refuse to step back and ask the simple question "does this, as shipped, meet the needs of the public", instead they ask, "does this, as shipped, meet the needs of the GPL". Who cares? I don't. OpenBSD doesn't and it still kicks Linux's ass as a server. It's quality not licensing that should determine popularity of software.
Stallman is nothing more than a foaming at the mouth, rabid GPL fanatic. He is so blinded by this politics, politics that have VERY little to do with the everday lives of those in the real world, that he is willing to slam KDE for not asking for forgivness.
All Stallman is interested in doing is discrediting KDE, because he wants to set a precedent. "I can run you into the ground if you don't lick my balls". Fuck him. Fuck his minion clones following his every move.
Interesting. This sounds like Walmart's "roll back" prices on speed. Imagine walking by a rack of cloths and the digital price display goes from $5 to $3 when you say the shirt is ugly, but you listen to a Stereo and comment on how good it shoulds the price jumps by $50.
btw..... I wonder how the German govt. is gonna react to this. Isn't this kind of thing (changing prices randomly) illegal in Germany?
The moment you base your software decisions based on the politics of it's source code and not on the usefullness of the code is the day that all code goes to hell.
On unix, chmod -w * does the trick. Then no matter what the installer does, it won't install over it. Doesn't windows have this? I didn't think so.
I do find it interesting that the applications you mentioned are ones which MS is interested in getting a complete monolopy hold on by bundling comparable services in Windows. Can someone say sabatoge?
Aol is providing a service where ,in some markets, is a necissary product. It is definitely all the rage here in the US and some beleive it will replace TV.
Time Warner provides so many media services, that I pretty much guarantee you read or listen to thier products every week.
Try saying something that is comparable and relevent. Time Warner is BIG. It controls at least one news outlet that you read everyday. It controls at least one Music Label you listen to everyday. It controls a significant amount of the broadband market.
AOL controls what a majority of the US poplulation thinks the internet is. Internet != Web Browser.
Togethor they can provide all the news, radio, movies they want, have a complete strangle hold over what people will every see on the internet. Control every protocol, every packet, every codec, everything.
In the computer industry, it's about how many eyes you can get to and not about the quality of your product. Quite frankly your analogy doesn't compare.
Well, EU can't "say what two American companies can do", but they sure can regulate them so heavilty in Europe that they might as well be seperate entities.