Reverse engineering is EXACTLY how the WinTel PC industry began. As long as one does a clean room reverse engineering and doesn't violate patents, there really isn't much anyone can do about it other than spend a lot of money loosing in court.
It is only a recent trend where reverse engineering has been given a bad name (DeCSS). More specifically, when someone over at Connectix makes a playstation 2 BIOS, its okay. Yet, when someone over in Norway figures out who DVD players work it's piracy. The distinction between the two is Connectix is a for profit company, while distributers of DeCSS are Hackers. As well all know, what is good for a company is good for America and Hackers (like those evil 2600 kids) are out to destroy the nation.
So logically, what needs to be done is some "Hackers" need to start a for profit company to sell DVD players for Linux (at.$50 a download) and see what happens.
I really don't think out legislators thought about this very well. Identity theft has just been taken to a whole new level. Either this law should be repealed, immediately, or we should all go out and get finger printed so after some steals our identity (digitally speak), we will have a record that we are indeed who we say we are.
Better yet, mail congress a million bricks with the note attached saying that since congress is so interested in keep us in the stone ages, we thought we would our part.
Anyone else notice the reply email for all admins, regardless of who they are is http://www.monkey.org/~timothy
I get the feeling this is as much a White-Hat hacker job as claimed. Take a look at the sony post.
Actually, Hong Kong is having the same effect today as it did in 90'. The biggest change happened some 20 years ago when China began shifting to a more Liberalized economic model. This happened indepenedant of Hong Kong possession. (you can thank the same President that brought us the Tiamen Massacre) I work in a Scientific Institute, with a LOT of Chinese nationals. I get the impression that the United States influence of China brings change, while Hong Kong is merely the port (literally) that it flows in and out of. Before China had control this was true.
1. Any fool can get his NT, A+, or whatever certification with less than a years work. Finding competant workers is like finding a needle in a haystack.
2. Lastly, Why in the hell would any knowledgeable IT worker go to work for someone else? Start your own damn business.
What are they going to do for an encore, sue the US Power Grid for supplying the power to the CueCat so people won't be able to hack it anymore? I personally can't wait to see this go to a trial. I hope the judge laughs out loud in their face and sends them to be without dinner for acting like a bunch of two year olds.
"When was the last time you tried to upgrade that woderful hardware you wierdo?"
Last year, personally. I picked up a 300Mhz G3 upgrade for my old 6116 (60Mhz/601PPC). Worked fine. Did you have trouble fitting that new mobo in your 486's or P1's case or did you have to buy a new case too (along with the new RAM and processor you had to buy)?
What other things did I do? Hmm...Put a Maxtor drive in a G4(dual), put more ram than you could possibly imagine in a G4 (2GB...that extra slot works), installed Linux on it, and run our custom software faster than any x86 machine on the market.
What's gonna happen when you want to upgrade to that P4? Your gonna have to buy a new case, motherboard and power supply. That's called, where I'm from anyways, buying a new computer. So much for the PC myth of upgrade ability.
I'm not a GPL freak. Linux is not my main OS. To me, OpenSource is little more than a buzzword. BUT, I do know one thing. If you want to protect your data, if it is that sensitive to you, you should NEVER for any reason use a 3-rd party encryption which you can not see the source yourself. NEVER.
1. You have no idea if those coders are l337 h4x0rZ by night now walk in on their own backdoors and snoop around.
2. You have no idea if they even uses the advertised encryption.
3. You have no idea if that encryption does exactly as advertised.
4. You have no idea who is watching.
It is clear, you ONLY choices for security are:
1. Code it yourself.
2. Use publicly available source.
Then and ONLY then you will know what you are getting into.
I guess you wonder why I roam Slashdot. Well, Slashdot has the highest concentration of Trolls I have ever seen on the Internet (that includes UseNET). Crap like this post makes for amusing reading.
Until people are buying their chips, they have a lead over NOONE. Maybe Transmeta forgot, along with the rest of the internet IPO's, that profit is important and not 'potential growth'.
TROLL
There are two reasons why Slashdot writes about this crap:
1) It is kinda neat how they solved the heat issues of such an old legacy design as the x86. This only needs to be reported ONCE.
2) Linus works for them. How many times has Slashdot run an article with the words Linux, Transmeta, and Embedded mentioned?
Also, I find it ironic that Slashdot, whose bias towards towards Linux is well known, has the follow to say about Transmetas claim:
"once an idea is public, it is a lot easier to copy."
Finally explains, once and for all, exactly why Slashdot is against software patents.
/BEGIN_STUPID_TROLL
Well, whoppie-dee-doo. This is really no big deal, because RMS and Stallman have taught us all that Linux is going to skool MS in to oblivion, just like NeXT, OS 2/Warp, and Mac OS...err/END_STUPID_TROLL
Personally, I dont understand why people 'need' MS products. I've been using computer to get work done for 10 years now and have NEVER thought, "Shit, I need Windows." I don't use and I still can exchange documents with people of ANY OS. OEM's need to grow up and ditch MS like a bad case of fleas. Once HP, Dell, Compaq, Emachines, and Gateway all move from MS, who are they going to sell thier OS to. People use "what came with their computer" (which btw is why they use IE..) and don't seem to concerned with exact what that OS is (even if they do know what an OS is...)
Usually those who are at a loss of words, choose to insult and use profanity. Generally speaking, such language is a sign that the individual has a lower level of understanding of rational thought, and as such has to resort to the lowest of all common denominators to express his/her disaproval.
Problem with this is I am a Mac user whose LinuxBox is NOTHING more than a toy. I don't find Linux especially usefull, It's just a good way to learn how Unix is put togethor.
CmdrTaco, with all due respect to you position at Slashdot, your choice to put this article under "News" and not under "Linux" is typical of your posting style. It seems anything that legitimizes Linux in some form or another is NEWS. Quite frankly, it's not. It's no more news than some company releasing a DVD title for Windows (which if you cared about Windows, it would go in the Windows section). Interesting, maybe. News, no.
It is becoming more and more transparent, your reasoning for putting such Linux related articles in the news section is no more than an agenda of making Linux look good and doing it as publicly as you can in your little space on the web. Slashdot gives users the CHOICE not to see Linux articles, you CmdrTaco, do not.
Slashdot, may have a bias, that is well known, but there is also a thing called ediquette. It dictates that Linux articles do NOT go in the news section, but in the Linux section. This is so those who for some reason on another, don't want to see every Linux related release can skip over it and read about thier favorite Corporate conspiracy theory, or whatever they are interested in. CmdrTaco, you should respect Slashdot's own posting sections, rather than push your personal agenda.
Wow, you mean we will have YATTH (yet-another-thing-to-hack)? That's great. What is the FCC going to do when someone goes to radioshack and builts himself a receiver from off the shelf parts, writes the linux drivers for it, then uses it to pipe the signal to a file? Ban people from shopping at radio shack and building PC because they can get around copyright. What about the fact that today, any watermarking or encryption can be circumevented, even if by brute force (piping the SVGA signal to a file)?
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It is only a recent trend where reverse engineering has been given a bad name (DeCSS). More specifically, when someone over at Connectix makes a playstation 2 BIOS, its okay. Yet, when someone over in Norway figures out who DVD players work it's piracy. The distinction between the two is Connectix is a for profit company, while distributers of DeCSS are Hackers. As well all know, what is good for a company is good for America and Hackers (like those evil 2600 kids) are out to destroy the nation.
So logically, what needs to be done is some "Hackers" need to start a for profit company to sell DVD players for Linux (at .$50 a download) and see what happens.
I really don't think out legislators thought about this very well. Identity theft has just been taken to a whole new level. Either this law should be repealed, immediately, or we should all go out and get finger printed so after some steals our identity (digitally speak), we will have a record that we are indeed who we say we are.
Too bad we can't killfile articles for being brain headed or redundant.
Anyone else notice the reply email for all admins, regardless of who they are is http://www.monkey.org/~timothy I get the feeling this is as much a White-Hat hacker job as claimed. Take a look at the sony post.
Kewl, now we will be able to hack Slashdot while watching TV in the tub.
Actually, Hong Kong is having the same effect today as it did in 90'. The biggest change happened some 20 years ago when China began shifting to a more Liberalized economic model. This happened indepenedant of Hong Kong possession. (you can thank the same President that brought us the Tiamen Massacre) I work in a Scientific Institute, with a LOT of Chinese nationals. I get the impression that the United States influence of China brings change, while Hong Kong is merely the port (literally) that it flows in and out of. Before China had control this was true.
2. Lastly, Why in the hell would any knowledgeable IT worker go to work for someone else? Start your own damn business.
....and the english rules of grammar say the plural of virus is virii
What are they going to do for an encore, sue the US Power Grid for supplying the power to the CueCat so people won't be able to hack it anymore? I personally can't wait to see this go to a trial. I hope the judge laughs out loud in their face and sends them to be without dinner for acting like a bunch of two year olds.
Last year, personally. I picked up a 300Mhz G3 upgrade for my old 6116 (60Mhz/601PPC). Worked fine. Did you have trouble fitting that new mobo in your 486's or P1's case or did you have to buy a new case too (along with the new RAM and processor you had to buy)?
What other things did I do? Hmm...Put a Maxtor drive in a G4(dual), put more ram than you could possibly imagine in a G4 (2GB...that extra slot works), installed Linux on it, and run our custom software faster than any x86 machine on the market.
What's gonna happen when you want to upgrade to that P4? Your gonna have to buy a new case, motherboard and power supply. That's called, where I'm from anyways, buying a new computer. So much for the PC myth of upgrade ability.
MS Tech Support: Why do you think that?
Human: It e-mailed everyone in my Outlook address book, telling them I had a new e-mail and to try MSN.
MS Tech Support: Oh, that's not a virus, it's a feature.
Human: It's a feature of the OS to auto e-mail your friends?
MS Tech Support: That's correct.
Human: So the programs like "The Love Bug" are a feature of Windows.
MS Tech Support: No, they are virii.
Human: But doesn't this "feature" make the OS more likely to spread virii?
MS Tech Support: Virii spread is not a result of bad programming on MS's part, but because the user did something wrong.
Human: Things like this don't happen on my Mac or Linux bo...
MS Tech Support: *hangs up abruptly*
So there we have it folks, when MS spams your friends, its a feature, when a virii does it, its the users fault.
1. You have no idea if those coders are l337 h4x0rZ by night now walk in on their own backdoors and snoop around.
2. You have no idea if they even uses the advertised encryption.
3. You have no idea if that encryption does exactly as advertised.
4. You have no idea who is watching.
It is clear, you ONLY choices for security are:
1. Code it yourself.
2. Use publicly available source.
Then and ONLY then you will know what you are getting into.
I guess you wonder why I roam Slashdot. Well, Slashdot has the highest concentration of Trolls I have ever seen on the Internet (that includes UseNET). Crap like this post makes for amusing reading.
How come when I'm Trolling, I get moderated down, but when Transmeta is Trolling, they get a headline. It's just unfair!
TROLL
There are two reasons why Slashdot writes about this crap:
1) It is kinda neat how they solved the heat issues of such an old legacy design as the x86. This only needs to be reported ONCE.
2) Linus works for them. How many times has Slashdot run an article with the words Linux, Transmeta, and Embedded mentioned?
Also, I find it ironic that Slashdot, whose bias towards towards Linux is well known, has the follow to say about Transmetas claim:
"once an idea is public, it is a lot easier to copy."
Finally explains, once and for all, exactly why Slashdot is against software patents.
Draw your own conclusions.
Personally, I dont understand why people 'need' MS products. I've been using computer to get work done for 10 years now and have NEVER thought, "Shit, I need Windows." I don't use and I still can exchange documents with people of ANY OS. OEM's need to grow up and ditch MS like a bad case of fleas. Once HP, Dell, Compaq, Emachines, and Gateway all move from MS, who are they going to sell thier OS to. People use "what came with their computer" (which btw is why they use IE..) and don't seem to concerned with exact what that OS is (even if they do know what an OS is...)
In other words, shut up.
Now if only they could find the black hole in my son's room that keeps moving his stuff around on the floor, slowly attracting it under the bed.
to quote the origional post,
"ZDNet reports that Yggdrasil Computing has released a Linux DVD Archive."
It belongs in the Linux section.
Problem with this is I am a Mac user whose LinuxBox is NOTHING more than a toy. I don't find Linux especially usefull, It's just a good way to learn how Unix is put togethor.
It is becoming more and more transparent, your reasoning for putting such Linux related articles in the news section is no more than an agenda of making Linux look good and doing it as publicly as you can in your little space on the web. Slashdot gives users the CHOICE not to see Linux articles, you CmdrTaco, do not.
Slashdot, may have a bias, that is well known, but there is also a thing called ediquette. It dictates that Linux articles do NOT go in the news section, but in the Linux section. This is so those who for some reason on another, don't want to see every Linux related release can skip over it and read about thier favorite Corporate conspiracy theory, or whatever they are interested in. CmdrTaco, you should respect Slashdot's own posting sections, rather than push your personal agenda.
Oh yeah, I willing to bet some "moderator" will moderate this DOWN as a troll, just like they did with my last (albiet, not as coherent and well written) post.
I actually know people who sound like this...."Windows sucks and crashes, but hey everyone knows how to use it and I can listen to my music..."
This is just stupid.
Ahh....well put