I bet John Carmack would sign something like this. He could be another great name to add for people who use GPL'd software, but release proprietary products: proof that GPL'd code doesn't "infect" the whole business.
#1. It's just self-evident. It's why the US excels over Europe (in everything but auto manufacturing... hmmm). Guaranteed jobs lead to lower output and less innovation. I'm sure there are many union workers who are hard working, but there must be a significant % who are not.
Intelligence allows people to think for themselves and to create their own opportunities. Education is definitely not required, but it helps.
#3. Your examples are of relatively homogenious societies (esp. sweden) (which the US is not) - as they receive more immigrants the situation will change and they will be forced to ditch many of their social programs (sad, but true).
Your USSR example makes no sense(corrupt, undemocratic, no free speech). Actually, I don't think history provides any good examples of countries like the US. What we do know is that socialism hasn't been able to keep up with the US.
#4. Live and learn. Mistakes are made. With big-brother they take a revolution to recover from - recovery in a free market is relatively painless.
I would maintain that programming requires a certain amount of creativity, and that creativity is basically intelligence. And how many layed-off programmers are unable to pay for food and housing?
ps - I know it all sounds like "elitist garbage." I have a heart, but you can't cheat reality.
Let's agree to disagree, I don't have the energy to continue this and I don't believe we will be able change each other's minds.
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I love your scare tactics.
...and someday all our jobs will be obsoleted by computers that know how to program for $0.01/hour.
As long as we have a democratic nation with an uncorrupt government and lot's of free speech, there's nothing to worry about.
What you should be complaining about is our government's desire to do business with nations that do not practice these ideals.
Hmm... you didn't actually refute any of my claims - you just told me I was wrong.
Let's be honest. Unions members are lazier workers who are not as bright as skilled/white collar workers. I'm not saying union members should be forced to live bad lives because of their lower intellect; they probably got some benefit from unions in the past. But it seems like the time of unions is over even for these people.
Employment information is too easy to get in today's world. Especially for people who are more capable. I know this isn't PC to say, but it is true. Some people are born better looking, some are born smarter, some are born faster - and some are born the opposite.
Every time a society begins to submit to the will of stupid and the lazy (a significant % of laborers), it goes all downhill. Unions are just a symptom of a desire to socialize everything (because poor Johnny is too stupid to function without big brother!).
I know programmers and IT workers are too smart to fall for that trick.
Instead of forming unions, let's create programs to Help the Stupid and Lazy overcome their handicaps (only put in more palatable terms if you wish).
Unions exist because people [have not been able to/have not been willing to] gather information on the labor marketplace.
There is no reason for unions to exist in a capitalistic environment: Where work is demanded, employers compete for empolyees. All that is needed is for independent groups to provide easy access to this employment data. Viola! No need for unions.
In my opinion, unions can only cause long-term harm to the economy by providing unnatural stress on businesses when economic pressures mandate change. With unions, these necessary changes are much harder to implement, and hurt union members in the long run.
If NASA begins to support space tourism, they will experience a huge backlash against their organization and lose much of their funding. The novelity of space tourists will quickly wear off, and soon people will realize their taxes are going to a program that can only be used by the super-wealthy. At that point, any other lofty goals NASA has will be history.
If NASA wants to continue as an organization under its current mission, it cannot support space tourism.
Of course, the question is then: Do we really want NASA around at all? It seems privatized access to space is the only long term solution.
See here for qVIX/cu30, a GPL'ed videoconferencing program put out by Cornell that is superior in quality and bandwidth requirements over Netscape's Netmeeting.
Though it seems to require some extra work for the integration you have in mind.
I think "MS used BSD's TCP stack" is an urban legend. No one has ever posted proof of this. Sure the MS ftp client contains BSD code, but that is completely different from the TCP stack.
Do you have any links or specific examples of a studio destroying a film once the copyright expired?
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man I hope you're right... I've SERIOUSLY geeked out for the past year, and been seriously involved since '97(although looking back at '94, I can see I was in trouble from the start). The improved BS meter could be one unintended benefit.
Redhat 5.1
Redhat 5.2
Slackware 7.0 / Mandrake 6.x (got tired of redhat, was searching for something new)
Debian 2.2
Debian Unstable(hands down the best)
Although I would probably consider Progeny if I was a corporate guy.
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I bet John Carmack would sign something like this. He could be another great name to add for people who use GPL'd software, but release proprietary products: proof that GPL'd code doesn't "infect" the whole business.
Plus he released Quake under the GPL.
TO WHOEVER IS DRAINING MY KARMA
SUCK MY ASS!
I'M SO FAR ABOVE 25, U CAN'T WIN
SCUM-SUCKING UNION-LOVING SOCIALIST
The only proprietary parts of a PPC system are the motherboard and CPU. Thanks to PCI, USB and SDRAM, everything else should be swappable with x86.
And there are 2 manufaturers of the PPC CPU: Mot & IBM (just like there are 2 manufacturers of x86).
Now, all we need are the motherboards (although that Mac Cube is pretty cool).
Unions gave you the right to free speech and the right to vote?!
Don't make me puke.
Everything else you listed is not a right that is granted by the government. Those are nicities that make our economy work.
OK, I've gotta respond to this.
I'm a molecular biolgist who live in a very biotech heavy area of the US.
To say Biotech is not driven by the US is a joke.
#1. It's just self-evident. It's why the US excels over Europe (in everything but auto manufacturing... hmmm). Guaranteed jobs lead to lower output and less innovation. I'm sure there are many union workers who are hard working, but there must be a significant % who are not.
Intelligence allows people to think for themselves and to create their own opportunities. Education is definitely not required, but it helps.
#2. http://www.google.com/search?q=jobs
#3. Your examples are of relatively homogenious societies (esp. sweden) (which the US is not) - as they receive more immigrants the situation will change and they will be forced to ditch many of their social programs (sad, but true).
Your USSR example makes no sense(corrupt, undemocratic, no free speech). Actually, I don't think history provides any good examples of countries like the US. What we do know is that socialism hasn't been able to keep up with the US.
#4. Live and learn. Mistakes are made. With big-brother they take a revolution to recover from - recovery in a free market is relatively painless.
I would maintain that programming requires a certain amount of creativity, and that creativity is basically intelligence. And how many layed-off programmers are unable to pay for food and housing?
ps - I know it all sounds like "elitist garbage." I have a heart, but you can't cheat reality.
Let's agree to disagree, I don't have the energy to continue this and I don't believe we will be able change each other's minds.
I love your scare tactics.
...and someday all our jobs will be obsoleted by computers that know how to program for $0.01/hour.
As long as we have a democratic nation with an uncorrupt government and lot's of free speech, there's nothing to worry about.
What you should be complaining about is our government's desire to do business with nations that do not practice these ideals.
Hmm... you didn't actually refute any of my claims - you just told me I was wrong.
Let's be honest. Unions members are lazier workers who are not as bright as skilled/white collar workers. I'm not saying union members should be forced to live bad lives because of their lower intellect; they probably got some benefit from unions in the past. But it seems like the time of unions is over even for these people.
Employment information is too easy to get in today's world. Especially for people who are more capable. I know this isn't PC to say, but it is true. Some people are born better looking, some are born smarter, some are born faster - and some are born the opposite.
Every time a society begins to submit to the will of stupid and the lazy (a significant % of laborers), it goes all downhill. Unions are just a symptom of a desire to socialize everything (because poor Johnny is too stupid to function without big brother!).
I know programmers and IT workers are too smart to fall for that trick.
Instead of forming unions, let's create programs to Help the Stupid and Lazy overcome their handicaps (only put in more palatable terms if you wish).
Unions exist because people [have not been able to/have not been willing to] gather information on the labor marketplace.
There is no reason for unions to exist in a capitalistic environment: Where work is demanded, employers compete for empolyees. All that is needed is for independent groups to provide easy access to this employment data. Viola! No need for unions.
In my opinion, unions can only cause long-term harm to the economy by providing unnatural stress on businesses when economic pressures mandate change. With unions, these necessary changes are much harder to implement, and hurt union members in the long run.
My take on Tito:
If NASA begins to support space tourism, they will experience a huge backlash against their organization and lose much of their funding. The novelity of space tourists will quickly wear off, and soon people will realize their taxes are going to a program that can only be used by the super-wealthy. At that point, any other lofty goals NASA has will be history.
If NASA wants to continue as an organization under its current mission, it cannot support space tourism.
Of course, the question is then: Do we really want NASA around at all? It seems privatized access to space is the only long term solution.
I just tried out the Linux version on my Glibc 2.2.3/Kernel 2.4.4 system, and the performance still does not hold a candle to Netscape 4.77.
Navigating the menus still feels like a java app with large delays in action.Opening new windows and bringing up preferences is still slow.
Until I get *instantaneous* response like NS 4.77, I will never switch to mozilla.
Your link is broken because of the space /. puts in there. Here is the correct one.
I meant MS's Netmeeting - oops
See here for qVIX/cu30, a GPL'ed videoconferencing program put out by Cornell that is superior in quality and bandwidth requirements over Netscape's Netmeeting.
Though it seems to require some extra work for the integration you have in mind.
I think "MS used BSD's TCP stack" is an urban legend. No one has ever posted proof of this. Sure the MS ftp client contains BSD code, but that is completely different from the TCP stack.
Funny everyone mentions "closed hardware." HTH does Linux/NetBSD manage to run on modern Macs if they're "closed?"
Do you have any links or specific examples of a studio destroying a film once the copyright expired?
man I hope you're right... I've SERIOUSLY geeked out for the past year, and been seriously involved since '97(although looking back at '94, I can see I was in trouble from the start). The improved BS meter could be one unintended benefit.
My favorite utility of the xfs distribution. Where else could you find so much joy about a program that does nothing?
They use windows laptops. Do a search for "windows" on this text or on some of the other logs Michael linked to.
No, they're using Windows laptops. See here. Do a search on the text for "windows." You can see they've had lot's of problems.
wow... you even got a Score:4
No, you misunderstood: Genes CAN be mapped directly to proteins. It is just that one DNA sequence can code for more than one protein.
Homosexuality is probably strongly influenced by genetics, but we really don't know to what extent.
As a molecular biologist, I've gotta say this is not a huge surprise.
We already knew there is post-transcriptional and post-translational modification of genes. That's been known for a long time.
And some genes actually hop around. Transposons.
I think it just makes things more elegant and exciting.
I started late, but followed a similar path:
Redhat 5.1
Redhat 5.2
Slackware 7.0 / Mandrake 6.x (got tired of redhat, was searching for something new)
Debian 2.2
Debian Unstable(hands down the best)
Although I would probably consider Progeny if I was a corporate guy.