I get the normal 85-90 mile range. But I'm figuring that you want to go out for lunch, run some errands on the way home, use the air conditioning the whole way, and still leave a decent cushion. I have run mine down to single digit range remaining and it is very nerve wracking.
They said that every design decision was made on which option had the lowest drag coefficient (which makes a big impact on range). I'm ok with function over form.
The most notably odd feature is the big bug eye headlights. At highway speeds, they create low pressure bubbles around the side view mirrors.
The Leaf suits only a narrow market who either has a very short commute or a relatively short commute with charging at their destination
I wouldn't say "very short commute". Going 25 miles each way isn't a problem. That can get you completely across a lot of towns.
IMO, the bigger problem is logistics and market demographics. Unless you own a home with a garage, owning an EV can be a real pain in the butt. Home lessors will have to get the owner's permission to install an outlet in the garage. Apartment, and even condo, dwellers would have a very rough time.
The people who are in the market for a $65k+ car tend to own their own home with a garage. The people in the market for a $28k car often do not.
I actually lease my Leaf SV (the middle trim) for $300/month. Considering I save almost $100/month in gas, and only pay $20 more per month in electricity, I think it's a great value. The thing I didn't expect to love is the single speed transmission. You don't realize how obnoxious gear changes are until you drive without them.
LEAF requires much less service (no gas, no oil changes)
It's astonishing how little maintenance the Leaf requires. In the first 10 years, I think the only planned maintenance is brake fluid, brake pads, and cabin air filters.
To give you an example of how clueless the dealerships are- I was out of town a few months after getting my Leaf and the dealership left me a voicemail saying that my service appointment was scheduled for that weekend. I assumed it was some horrible emergency safety recall. When I called back they said that they had taken the liberty of scheduling my first oil change for me.
. I don't see any need for local citizens to pay $10,000 in taxes to Washington, who takes their cut before sending $7,000 to the state, who takes their cut before sending $5,000 back to the local area.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Texas get $57B more in federal spending than it sends to Washington in taxes. Your lavish lifestyles are being subsidized by New York, California, and Massachusetts.
Doh. I didn't read past the sentence I quoted- which I see spouted in earnest every day on this site. I thought they meant to write "even more than under the Bush years" and fucked it up because they're stupid.
"the federal government should pursue actionable items [to create] food boards... set food policy"
That means things like "Public schools shouldn't serve pizza and french fries every day". Mine did. It does not mean "Pizza should be banned from existence".
Obama is responsible for the massive increase in Federal spending, even under the Bush years.
The President has no authority over Federal spending. Congress does. The President submits a budget proposal. Congress throws that in the garbage and creates an actual budget. Once passed by both houses, the President cannot realistically veto it.
I think we could debate the fact that the $3.5 Trillion could have done more for "My economy" had it been spent in public works projects and landed in my
Obama proposed doing that, with like $750B. Congress rejected it immediately. So Obama did what he has the authority to do without needing Congress's approval- quantitative easing.
Also, he could be leaking his bitcoins into the market slowly, to deter the market crash that would occur if he wanted to dissolve himself of a billion dollars in bitcoin. Such an action would not be easily detectable, even without all the crypto protections.
Many people have analyzed the blockchain specifically looking for that scenario and it hasn't happened.
You think that super-mysterious Satoshi is selling bitcoin wallets privately for cash, none of those people have spent the coins they paid tons of money for, and nobody has mentioned a word of it to the internet?
Sure, "Satoshi" could have given that wallet to someone else, but that person has clearly sat on it without doing anything. Regardless, it disproves the theory that the creator(s) of bitcoin wanted to make a profit. What's the point of having a bitcoin wallet worth hundreds of millions of dollars if you don't spend any of it?
They do the exact same things that manned aircraft have been doing for 60 years, but because the pilot doesn't sit inside it's a big outrage for some reason.
I don't know the technical details of the blockchain, but apparently someone in the very very early days mined around a million coins. It doesn't make sense for that to be anyone except Satoshi. That account then transfers around 500 coins to other people when the price was very low. And since Satoshi disappeared, there have been no transactions from that wallet. There is no way for anyone to gain anything from those coins without a publicly viewable transaction appearing in the blockchain.
So write some code. That doesn't sound difficult to implement securely. Oh wait...it sounds virtually impossible.
"Satoshi Nakamoto", the person or people who created bitcoin, are believed to have about a million bitcoins from early mining. That stash was worth a billion dollars at one point recently. Not a single transaction has occurred with the coins since Satoshi disappeared in 2011.
Nobody really knows why the bitcoin protocol was created. But evidence does not support the theory that they did it to make money.
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I get the normal 85-90 mile range. But I'm figuring that you want to go out for lunch, run some errands on the way home, use the air conditioning the whole way, and still leave a decent cushion. I have run mine down to single digit range remaining and it is very nerve wracking.
They said that every design decision was made on which option had the lowest drag coefficient (which makes a big impact on range). I'm ok with function over form.
The most notably odd feature is the big bug eye headlights. At highway speeds, they create low pressure bubbles around the side view mirrors.
The Leaf isn't as small as you think. A normal sized adult can sit comfortably in the back and the trunk area is surprisingly large.
The Leaf suits only a narrow market who either has a very short commute or a relatively short commute with charging at their destination
I wouldn't say "very short commute". Going 25 miles each way isn't a problem. That can get you completely across a lot of towns.
IMO, the bigger problem is logistics and market demographics. Unless you own a home with a garage, owning an EV can be a real pain in the butt. Home lessors will have to get the owner's permission to install an outlet in the garage. Apartment, and even condo, dwellers would have a very rough time.
The people who are in the market for a $65k+ car tend to own their own home with a garage. The people in the market for a $28k car often do not.
I actually lease my Leaf SV (the middle trim) for $300/month. Considering I save almost $100/month in gas, and only pay $20 more per month in electricity, I think it's a great value. The thing I didn't expect to love is the single speed transmission. You don't realize how obnoxious gear changes are until you drive without them.
LEAF requires much less service (no gas, no oil changes)
It's astonishing how little maintenance the Leaf requires. In the first 10 years, I think the only planned maintenance is brake fluid, brake pads, and cabin air filters.
To give you an example of how clueless the dealerships are- I was out of town a few months after getting my Leaf and the dealership left me a voicemail saying that my service appointment was scheduled for that weekend. I assumed it was some horrible emergency safety recall. When I called back they said that they had taken the liberty of scheduling my first oil change for me.
Yes. But it's a secret so don't tell anyone.
You know what the federal government couldn't give less of a shit about? The opinions of the 18 people who still read this site.
a legitimate outlet that could save the free world
LOL. Wikileaks hasn't accomplished a damn thing.
"Assange behaves ... like an egotistical tyrant interested more in his own self-publicity than in changing the world."
He's been like that since day 1. None of this started when he locked himself in the embassy.
Are you looking at the right page?
The Federal government collects $2.5T in taxes and spends $2.9T.
. I don't see any need for local citizens to pay $10,000 in taxes to Washington, who takes their cut before sending $7,000 to the state, who takes their cut before sending $5,000 back to the local area.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Texas get $57B more in federal spending than it sends to Washington in taxes. Your lavish lifestyles are being subsidized by New York, California, and Massachusetts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_taxation_and_spending_by_state
Michelle Obama trying to make sure kids aren't fattying up with cookies, potato chips and french fries at lunch?
The lunch served at public schools with federal money. You think that's equivalent to "getting sweets banned"?
Doh. I didn't read past the sentence I quoted- which I see spouted in earnest every day on this site. I thought they meant to write "even more than under the Bush years" and fucked it up because they're stupid.
Oh well.
"the federal government should pursue actionable items [to create] food boards ... set food policy"
That means things like "Public schools shouldn't serve pizza and french fries every day". Mine did. It does not mean "Pizza should be banned from existence".
Obama is responsible for the massive increase in Federal spending, even under the Bush years.
The President has no authority over Federal spending. Congress does. The President submits a budget proposal. Congress throws that in the garbage and creates an actual budget. Once passed by both houses, the President cannot realistically veto it.
I think we could debate the fact that the $3.5 Trillion could have done more for "My economy" had it been spent in public works projects and landed in my
Obama proposed doing that, with like $750B. Congress rejected it immediately. So Obama did what he has the authority to do without needing Congress's approval- quantitative easing.
Isn't the first lady's big thing getting sweets banned?
No. That would be the Rush Limbaugh version of what she's been doing. In reality, she promotes exercise for kids.
Some small countries like Costa Rica do "peg" their currencies to the dollar. Any merchant will accept Costa Rican Colón or US Dollars.
They are still considered the national currencies of those countries, but you're right, there isn't a huge reason for them to exist.
Also, he could be leaking his bitcoins into the market slowly, to deter the market crash that would occur if he wanted to dissolve himself of a billion dollars in bitcoin. Such an action would not be easily detectable, even without all the crypto protections.
Many people have analyzed the blockchain specifically looking for that scenario and it hasn't happened.
You think that super-mysterious Satoshi is selling bitcoin wallets privately for cash, none of those people have spent the coins they paid tons of money for, and nobody has mentioned a word of it to the internet?
Sure, "Satoshi" could have given that wallet to someone else, but that person has clearly sat on it without doing anything. Regardless, it disproves the theory that the creator(s) of bitcoin wanted to make a profit. What's the point of having a bitcoin wallet worth hundreds of millions of dollars if you don't spend any of it?
They do the exact same things that manned aircraft have been doing for 60 years, but because the pilot doesn't sit inside it's a big outrage for some reason.
He does good things, and the you bitch?
Obama could buy everyone in America free donuts and this site would find a way to complain about it.
I don't know the technical details of the blockchain, but apparently someone in the very very early days mined around a million coins. It doesn't make sense for that to be anyone except Satoshi. That account then transfers around 500 coins to other people when the price was very low. And since Satoshi disappeared, there have been no transactions from that wallet. There is no way for anyone to gain anything from those coins without a publicly viewable transaction appearing in the blockchain.
The nice thing about Amazon Coins is that when you wake up in the morning, they're worth the same amount as when you went to bed.
So write some code. That doesn't sound difficult to implement securely. Oh wait...it sounds virtually impossible.
"Satoshi Nakamoto", the person or people who created bitcoin, are believed to have about a million bitcoins from early mining. That stash was worth a billion dollars at one point recently. Not a single transaction has occurred with the coins since Satoshi disappeared in 2011.
Nobody really knows why the bitcoin protocol was created. But evidence does not support the theory that they did it to make money.