It's not a moral issue. Think of it more as a public health issue. Are we not right to complain if someone tosses bucketloads of shit onto the sidewalk? Is it wrong to enact laws that forbid such things?
I don't want my children to have to live in a nasty, ruined environment because a bunch of self-righteous bastards thought they had a God-given right to a Suburban.
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This is of course a blatant invasion of customers' privacy. It is none of my supermarket's business what I look at, for how
long, how quickly I walk through different aisles, the route I take inside the store, etc. This is why I shop only in small
markets-- only there will you find a respect for the dignity of human life in this modern world of impersonal, eploitative
Albertson's stores.
Don't you think you're being a little melodramatic? Consider: The stores aren't interested in you, specifically. They're watching traffic patterns in their store, looking at which products and marketing techniques tend to grab attention and keep it, etc. I'll grant you that small markets are more personal places; that's generally true of any establishment. But let's not confuse marketing research with Big Brother. They have no way of tracking you as an individual.
Except maybe through your Safeway Club Card.;)
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Probably wouldn't go over well. Loud noises are permanently damaging; a noise loud enough to stun you I would think would certainly be.
On the other hand, I'm just making this up as I go...
Quit saying "dot dot coms" when talking about freaking website companies. Just because some marketroid ZDnet hack did it doesn't mean it's okay. It reads like a stutter and makes you sound like a drooling buzzword receptacle.
Sorry to pick on you specifically... that's been building up for a while.
Yeah we did. It was a pretty nice one, too. We had frisbees and silly putty and screwdrivers and tattoos and bumper stickers and other stuff to give away. 'Twas great fun.
The big BSDi logo you see on his badge is because BSDi was a major sponsor on the show; those little cards came in everyone's badge holders, and the backs of all the badges had the BSDi logo stamped on them.
...was a little pager that could send email and stored phone numbers, email addresses, etc. It was tiny, about 2"x1"x1", and fit easily into a pocket (or into its slide-in clip case, which clipped nicely onto my bag's shoulder strap). The interface was a little clunky, only having a handful of buttons and using a virtual keyboard, but it worked and I got pretty quick at typing out little messages to send to people. Then I sent them, from pretty much wherever I was.
No $400 Palm needed to store an address book, no $20+/mo. cell phone needed for contacting people or being contacted, and it was tiny. I'm thinking about buying one (the company that owned that one took it back when I left).
I just wish I could remember who made it... Motorola I know makes a bigger, clunkier, clamshell-type email pager with a full (miniature) keyboard, but I didn't like it nearly as much.
No, it's not. Whoever marked this as Informative should have read the damned article; it's simple reading comprehension. The Shugashack article is about the Doom III information Carmack revealed in his QuakeCon speech, not the speech in general.
For those of you trying to make sense of the "two weeks" comment by making shit up, stop it. It's a joke, referring to a statement Jay Wilbur once made on Usenet about a release date (which slipped far beyond his predicted two weeks). "Two weeks" is now tongue-in-cheek slang for "whenever it's finished, and we have no idea how long that'll be".
I just wish I could find that freakin post for those of you who missed it...
Your logic appears to suggest that it was a good thing Martin Luther King was arrested for marching in the civil
rights protests because he got to make his point (which was validated by getting arrested). To me, his getting
arrested was a shameful moment in American history. And lets be honest...did they arrest him because a citizen was
guilty of criminal trespass or did they arrest him because he was a black man with a voice who they wanted to shut
up and they thought that throwing him in jail was the only way they could do that? Of course thier tactics
ultimately backfired, but I have a hard time believing that the police did Dr. King a favour by throwing him in jail.
But that's the point of civil disobedience. You show that you're willing to take whatever they're going to throw at you because you believe they're in the wrong. It's a conscious disregard for the law, not for its consequences.
Dude, take your issues one at a time, alright? He didn't say that every crime should be punished by imprisonment.
That said, let's look at how this works. Someone breaks a few laws in order to peacefully protest a wrong. The police have three options: They can leave the guy alone, which is pretty much against the rules and denies him the opportunity to get his point across (that is to say, flushes his whole civil-disobedience plan right down the toilet). That's no good. Or, they can slap him with a citation or something, which is about as ineffective (and leaves the guy still sitting there breaking various laws). Or they can arrest him and jail him for a while, which gets him off the street for the time being and allows him to make his point (namely, that he would go to jail-- his protest is that important to him).
Don't accuse people of knee-jerk reactions if you haven't thought things through yourself.
Just because it's made from computer parts doesn't mean people will see it as a dumbed-down computer and expect more from it. The great thing about consoles, as has been pointed out endlessly, is that you insert the media, press the "on" button, and it goes. There's limited hardware, so compatibility is never an issue (nor is driver support, nor is keeping your console up to snuff so it can play the most current games). You don't ever have to touch the OS or any other applications yourself. It's dirt simple.
If MS can achieve the same thing with PC parts, nobody's going to care that they're PC parts. If it walks like a console and quacks like a console, it's a console.
Too late. The PS2 is already stomping the PSX's early sales figures. Sega, by their own admission, is on their way out of the gaming market (and IMHO, it's about time). Nintendo seems to have carved themselves a niche catering to younger gamers, meaning the PS2 has more or less free reign in the rest of the market.
The other way of looking at it is this: They're forced (in order to make money) to accept ads that use DoubleClick. But that hasn't compromised their editorial stance on DoubleClick's behavior. Thus, instead of bitching constantly about these ads, maybe you should be applauding Slashdot's integrity.
... or being used (potentially) to protect the rights of its citizen, who has a pre-existing product which is harmed unfairly and unreasonably (ie, *not* through any sort of actual competition) by that international work.
In other words, they're just doing their job, and are in no violation of any reasonable moral or ethical standard of which I am aware.
The feasibility of that citizen's approach seems questionable, I admit, but that's another issue entirely.
Were you so busy being sarcastic that you forgot your point? You seem to be, in the first paragraph, mocking Napster and its proponents. In the second, you're taking the opposite stance.
If you're gonna be a smartass, we do ask that you be clear about it.
Keep in mind that the Unix security model, which is damned good by the way, assumes that the machine's owner (root, anyway) is God. This is not a bad thing.
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That was the 1950s, not 1970s...
No, in the 1950s Hollywood was a major target of the Red Scare. Role reversal in the 1970s.
It's not a moral issue. Think of it more as a public health issue. Are we not right to complain if someone tosses bucketloads of shit onto the sidewalk? Is it wrong to enact laws that forbid such things?
I don't want my children to have to live in a nasty, ruined environment because a bunch of self-righteous bastards thought they had a God-given right to a Suburban.
But here's the trick: Do you suppose these gradual improvements would have ever happened without the doomsayers and scaremongers? I really doubt it.
The "predictors of doom", as you call them, are useful. Don't knock 'em.
The concept is sound.
This is of course a blatant invasion of customers' privacy. It is none of my supermarket's business what I look at, for how long, how quickly I walk through different aisles, the route I take inside the store, etc. This is why I shop only in small markets-- only there will you find a respect for the dignity of human life in this modern world of impersonal, eploitative Albertson's stores.
;)
Don't you think you're being a little melodramatic? Consider: The stores aren't interested in you, specifically. They're watching traffic patterns in their store, looking at which products and marketing techniques tend to grab attention and keep it, etc. I'll grant you that small markets are more personal places; that's generally true of any establishment. But let's not confuse marketing research with Big Brother. They have no way of tracking you as an individual.
Except maybe through your Safeway Club Card.
Probably wouldn't go over well. Loud noises are permanently damaging; a noise loud enough to stun you I would think would certainly be.
On the other hand, I'm just making this up as I go...
More like:
Geek 1: "My god. Look at all the eCrap and iWhatever! It's all over the damn place! They actually called website companies 'dot-dot-coms'!'
Geek 2: "Yeah, that's why the marketroids were the first against the wall when the revolution came."
Quit saying "dot dot coms" when talking about freaking website companies. Just because some marketroid ZDnet hack did it doesn't mean it's okay. It reads like a stutter and makes you sound like a drooling buzzword receptacle.
Sorry to pick on you specifically... that's been building up for a while.
Erm... linus didn't create Linux untill 1991.
That's no excuse.
As if RadioShack isn't gonna demand it? I think they invented spam.
Yeah we did. It was a pretty nice one, too. We had frisbees and silly putty and screwdrivers and tattoos and bumper stickers and other stuff to give away. 'Twas great fun.
The big BSDi logo you see on his badge is because BSDi was a major sponsor on the show; those little cards came in everyone's badge holders, and the backs of all the badges had the BSDi logo stamped on them.
That IS it! You rock, thanks!
...was a little pager that could send email and stored phone numbers, email addresses, etc. It was tiny, about 2"x1"x1", and fit easily into a pocket (or into its slide-in clip case, which clipped nicely onto my bag's shoulder strap). The interface was a little clunky, only having a handful of buttons and using a virtual keyboard, but it worked and I got pretty quick at typing out little messages to send to people. Then I sent them, from pretty much wherever I was.
No $400 Palm needed to store an address book, no $20+/mo. cell phone needed for contacting people or being contacted, and it was tiny. I'm thinking about buying one (the company that owned that one took it back when I left).
I just wish I could remember who made it... Motorola I know makes a bigger, clunkier, clamshell-type email pager with a full (miniature) keyboard, but I didn't like it nearly as much.
No, it's not. Whoever marked this as Informative should have read the damned article; it's simple reading comprehension. The Shugashack article is about the Doom III information Carmack revealed in his QuakeCon speech, not the speech in general.
For those of you trying to make sense of the "two weeks" comment by making shit up, stop it. It's a joke, referring to a statement Jay Wilbur once made on Usenet about a release date (which slipped far beyond his predicted two weeks). "Two weeks" is now tongue-in-cheek slang for "whenever it's finished, and we have no idea how long that'll be".
I just wish I could find that freakin post for those of you who missed it...
Your logic appears to suggest that it was a good thing Martin Luther King was arrested for marching in the civil rights protests because he got to make his point (which was validated by getting arrested). To me, his getting arrested was a shameful moment in American history. And lets be honest...did they arrest him because a citizen was guilty of criminal trespass or did they arrest him because he was a black man with a voice who they wanted to shut up and they thought that throwing him in jail was the only way they could do that? Of course thier tactics ultimately backfired, but I have a hard time believing that the police did Dr. King a favour by throwing him in jail.
But that's the point of civil disobedience. You show that you're willing to take whatever they're going to throw at you because you believe they're in the wrong. It's a conscious disregard for the law, not for its consequences.
Dude, take your issues one at a time, alright? He didn't say that every crime should be punished by imprisonment.
That said, let's look at how this works. Someone breaks a few laws in order to peacefully protest a wrong. The police have three options: They can leave the guy alone, which is pretty much against the rules and denies him the opportunity to get his point across (that is to say, flushes his whole civil-disobedience plan right down the toilet). That's no good. Or, they can slap him with a citation or something, which is about as ineffective (and leaves the guy still sitting there breaking various laws). Or they can arrest him and jail him for a while, which gets him off the street for the time being and allows him to make his point (namely, that he would go to jail-- his protest is that important to him).
Don't accuse people of knee-jerk reactions if you haven't thought things through yourself.
Just because it's made from computer parts doesn't mean people will see it as a dumbed-down computer and expect more from it. The great thing about consoles, as has been pointed out endlessly, is that you insert the media, press the "on" button, and it goes. There's limited hardware, so compatibility is never an issue (nor is driver support, nor is keeping your console up to snuff so it can play the most current games). You don't ever have to touch the OS or any other applications yourself. It's dirt simple.
If MS can achieve the same thing with PC parts, nobody's going to care that they're PC parts. If it walks like a console and quacks like a console, it's a console.
Too late. The PS2 is already stomping the PSX's early sales figures. Sega, by their own admission, is on their way out of the gaming market (and IMHO, it's about time). Nintendo seems to have carved themselves a niche catering to younger gamers, meaning the PS2 has more or less free reign in the rest of the market.
:)
I'm kinda happy about *that*.
The other way of looking at it is this: They're forced (in order to make money) to accept ads that use DoubleClick. But that hasn't compromised their editorial stance on DoubleClick's behavior. Thus, instead of bitching constantly about these ads, maybe you should be applauding Slashdot's integrity.
Or something.
The sensible way to view things depends on the relative masses of the objects involved.
No, I like it better the other way. Henceforth, my worldview shall be yo-centric.
At which point the original readership will bail and some other site will be started. No big deal, really.
... or being used (potentially) to protect the rights of its citizen, who has a pre-existing product which is harmed unfairly and unreasonably (ie, *not* through any sort of actual competition) by that international work.
In other words, they're just doing their job, and are in no violation of any reasonable moral or ethical standard of which I am aware.
The feasibility of that citizen's approach seems questionable, I admit, but that's another issue entirely.
Germany's not suing anybody. Some Germans seem to be, but leave the nation out of it.
Were you so busy being sarcastic that you forgot your point? You seem to be, in the first paragraph, mocking Napster and its proponents. In the second, you're taking the opposite stance.
If you're gonna be a smartass, we do ask that you be clear about it.
Query: Why would you *want* to?
Keep in mind that the Unix security model, which is damned good by the way, assumes that the machine's owner (root, anyway) is God. This is not a bad thing.