I have voted reform, libertarian and green. But I usually vote democrat. Because I can not allow the treasonous and traitorous republicans to get into office. The tea party being supported and endorsed by the republicans makes this all the more clear. They are the absolute enemy of liberty and justice.
Every libertarian ideal with the exception of your economic policy is also a liberal ideal.
In practice your economic policy provides only theoretical liberty while actually disenfranchising the vast majority of the population and greatly infringing on their liberties. It is also based on an incomplete and ignorant misunderstanding of an abstract model of the free market created by Adam Smith. You libertarians promptly ignore everything else Adam Smith had to say on the subject. He was no advocate of the unrestricted market, he wrote extensively on its risks and flaws.
In the real world, your ability to exercise your rights is limited by your own means and by the means of the powerful (be they state, corporation, wealthy individual or common thug) to restrict your rights. Correct economic and environmental controls reduce the power of the wealthy to abuse the people while preserving and promoting the general liberties of all.
And that is the difference, I care about actual liberty for all, you care about the license of the plutocrats to commit tyranny without repercussion.
I know its being done. I am doing it (a big part of my current work is an extJS web app.. There are no good JS development environments and debuggers. And without static typing you really don't know for sure what an object is or does when it is passed to you. You can assume, and you can test, but that isn't the same as knowing.
Well, I am only a amateur game programmer, never had a game run more than 10kloc, but that is generally with procedural generation of terrain and no 3d. My professional programming is in logistics and reporting services for the DoD, where our requirements documents literally take up a stack of paper more than 4 feet tall in fine print. We used to have a ER diagram to reference, it took up one of our office walls, it has since then grown, I think we would need to use the ceiling for it now.
Liberals and conservatives are not both sides of the same coin. Not at all.
You are confusing republican and democrat with conservative and liberal. The truth is that both democrats and republicans are conservative. Both are the enemy of America, the nation founded on liberal ideals.
1: Ownership is not a natural right. "Ownership" provides exclusive use rights to an owner, infringing on the use rights of everyone else.
2: There is a difference between practical expression of rights and abstract theoretical concepts of rights. You may have the right to breath, but if you have no air, it won't do you any good.
3: Under the libertarian system, you DO NOT own the product of your labor. That belongs to your employer because they own the material and the machines that process it (including you).
The shriners can not and do not treat every needy child. There never has been and never will be enough charity in a society that worships greed (the "libertarian" ideal) to fulfill the needs of the disenfranchised.
I am all for the libertarians completely replacing republicans. Just like i would be all for socialists completely replacing democrats.
The problem is, the "one questionable plank" as you call it is almost the entire political focus of the libertarians and pseudo-libertarians within the political spectrum and it is the aspect that libertarians are least capable of compromise on.
Look at your "hero of the revolution" Ron Paul, totally willing to compromise on racial, gender based and religious equality, but not on the absolute free market and dismantling every federal program actually focused on protecting peoples rights (EPA, FDA, OSHA, ect), hell he has even compromised to support the continuation of the war on drugs.
Robots killing people is fairly easy, simple motion activated systems combined with range finding and ballistics algorithms will do the trick. Add facial/body type/gait recognition to keep it from going after so many shadows.
Getting them to do that while also not killing the right people is the hard part.
Do you respect the right to live? Do you believe that society has the right to determine who lives and dies arbitrarily, even if they are innocent of any crime? A social safety net helps those who have been temporarily or permanently rendered helpless through economic or other action to preserve their right to live.
Only a plutocrat or their loyal slave would prefer the right to pay lower taxes more than the right for the disenfranchised to live.
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I have voted reform, libertarian and green. But I usually vote democrat. Because I can not allow the treasonous and traitorous republicans to get into office. The tea party being supported and endorsed by the republicans makes this all the more clear. They are the absolute enemy of liberty and justice.
I 100% agree... in theory.
Every libertarian ideal with the exception of your economic policy is also a liberal ideal.
In practice your economic policy provides only theoretical liberty while actually disenfranchising the vast majority of the population and greatly infringing on their liberties. It is also based on an incomplete and ignorant misunderstanding of an abstract model of the free market created by Adam Smith. You libertarians promptly ignore everything else Adam Smith had to say on the subject. He was no advocate of the unrestricted market, he wrote extensively on its risks and flaws.
In the real world, your ability to exercise your rights is limited by your own means and by the means of the powerful (be they state, corporation, wealthy individual or common thug) to restrict your rights. Correct economic and environmental controls reduce the power of the wealthy to abuse the people while preserving and promoting the general liberties of all.
And that is the difference, I care about actual liberty for all, you care about the license of the plutocrats to commit tyranny without repercussion.
I know its being done. I am doing it (a big part of my current work is an extJS web app.. There are no good JS development environments and debuggers. And without static typing you really don't know for sure what an object is or does when it is passed to you. You can assume, and you can test, but that isn't the same as knowing.
And yes it really is a nightmare.
Well, I am only a amateur game programmer, never had a game run more than 10kloc, but that is generally with procedural generation of terrain and no 3d. My professional programming is in logistics and reporting services for the DoD, where our requirements documents literally take up a stack of paper more than 4 feet tall in fine print. We used to have a ER diagram to reference, it took up one of our office walls, it has since then grown, I think we would need to use the ceiling for it now.
By serious, I mean hundreds of thousands or millions of lines of code.
Its great getting women into programming... but seriously, ruby on rails is shit.
Game dev requires good tools and performance, and those are sorely lacking in js. JS is a total nightmare to code anything serious in.
C or C++ isn't necessary, but c# or java make a much better environment than the web browser and js.
How do you draw the conclusion that they are an affront to liberty? That makes absolutely no sense at all.
How can you even draw that conclusion? It is completely irrational. Things are not fallacies just because you state them so.
And?
Was there supposed to some kind of point there?
They are not liberties themselves, they are actions necessary for the protection of the individual liberties of the largest number of people.
Liberals and conservatives are not both sides of the same coin. Not at all.
You are confusing republican and democrat with conservative and liberal. The truth is that both democrats and republicans are conservative. Both are the enemy of America, the nation founded on liberal ideals.
You really have no idea what you are talking about.
You just described practical socialism.
Charity only helps the high profile cases. Millions go unnoticed, uncared for and unhelped every day.
Oh, I forgot. The libertarian answer to everything. Let them die. That is so much better than feeding and housing and providing medical care.
1: Ownership is not a natural right. "Ownership" provides exclusive use rights to an owner, infringing on the use rights of everyone else.
2: There is a difference between practical expression of rights and abstract theoretical concepts of rights. You may have the right to breath, but if you have no air, it won't do you any good.
3: Under the libertarian system, you DO NOT own the product of your labor. That belongs to your employer because they own the material and the machines that process it (including you).
Democrats are not a liberal party. And the Obama administration is far more conservative than the "conservatives" of 20 to 30 years ago.
You are right in that it is socialism.
You are wrong in that socialism is not the antithesis of liberty.
Conflating it as such is the height of ignorance or misdirection.
The shriners can not and do not treat every needy child. There never has been and never will be enough charity in a society that worships greed (the "libertarian" ideal) to fulfill the needs of the disenfranchised.
I am all for the libertarians completely replacing republicans. Just like i would be all for socialists completely replacing democrats.
The problem is, the "one questionable plank" as you call it is almost the entire political focus of the libertarians and pseudo-libertarians within the political spectrum and it is the aspect that libertarians are least capable of compromise on.
Look at your "hero of the revolution" Ron Paul, totally willing to compromise on racial, gender based and religious equality, but not on the absolute free market and dismantling every federal program actually focused on protecting peoples rights (EPA, FDA, OSHA, ect), hell he has even compromised to support the continuation of the war on drugs.
That isn't killing people because they don't pay taxes.
That is killing people who kill people because they don't want to pay taxes.
No we can't. Charity is not new. It has never been successful or effective.
Robots killing people is fairly easy, simple motion activated systems combined with range finding and ballistics algorithms will do the trick. Add facial/body type/gait recognition to keep it from going after so many shadows.
Getting them to do that while also not killing the right people is the hard part.
Do you respect the right to live? Do you believe that society has the right to determine who lives and dies arbitrarily, even if they are innocent of any crime? A social safety net helps those who have been temporarily or permanently rendered helpless through economic or other action to preserve their right to live.
Only a plutocrat or their loyal slave would prefer the right to pay lower taxes more than the right for the disenfranchised to live.