> I have met this guy in real life. Jason Haaz is a real linux hacker, who are you to say otherwise?
(You spelled his name wrong.)
I worked with him and attended a few expos with him. He's simply not a coder. That's not to imply that people who don't code aren't worthy people, but let's get our facts straight please.
The other day I stumbled across a program in the console-tools package called unicode_start (and unicode_stop). Haven't had time to play... do these do anything useful? What unicode support is there in the console driver?
I think you'll find that all of the packages in LinuxPPC 2000 are significantly more up to date (performace, bug fixes, features...) than CS 1.1 (or LinuxPPC 1999), which is to be expected in any newer release.
a) The default installation of LinuxPPC has no inetd servers enabled. It doesn't get much more secure...
b) You have now and have always had the option to install with the RedHat installer (rather than the graphical one).
And considering that there were almost no differences at all between LinuxPPC 1999 and YDL CS 1.1, it's hard for YDL to be "more straightforward and easier to use."
> the various Linux PPC projects doesn't seem to have too much troubles running on the latest Macs.
It was a looong time before the G3's were supported. The only reason G4's, iBooks, and iMac DV's work at all right now are through the incredible hacking efforts of Ben Herrenschmidt, who received a donated iBook and G4 from LinuxPPC Inc. Where was Apple there?
I'm sure Be Inc had more profitable things to do with their time than hack interrupt controllers in MacsBug.
Yellow Dog *is* LinuxPPC. Different packaging. Whenever people ask them the differences between YDL vs MkLinux and LinuxPPC, they're always very careful to compare only to MkLinux.
I think TurboLinux is working on an up-to-date version for PowerPC, but it's not done yet. They did have something older, but I don't think I've ever heard of anyone using it.
Debian for PowerPC lacks an installer and requires a LinuxPPC bootstrap process.
Amen to that (especially the performance comment).
I still use Linux on my PowerMac, but on my PC I'm being dazzled by BeOS and loving it. I like Linux for some reasons, but overall I think I like the BeOS... Linux is not the best, it's just one of the better ones.
The difficulty is that LinuxPPC R5 comes with all inetd services disbled (for security). So it's not *really* a stock install - Jeff had to make it less secure. I believe the intent is to keep turning on services (like telnetd, which was already enabled) if no one breaks it quick enough.
Besides, if this server is cracked, then we will have found another hole to patch, which is the point of cracking, right?
You talk about taking a week to secure a server, but it could be done in a few minutes by turning everything off except Apache (and disable CGI). "Secure" is kind of a tradeoff in that case.
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> I have met this guy in real life. Jason Haaz is a real linux hacker, who are you to say otherwise?
(You spelled his name wrong.)
I worked with him and attended a few expos with him. He's simply not a coder. That's not to imply that people who don't code aren't worthy people, but let's get our facts straight please.
-Hollis
I've heard it works as long as you use the Open Firmware video driver (which is very slow and you really don't want to do that).
-Hollis
> If only Macromedia could also please release their fscking Flash plugin for ppc ! (now that
> RealPlayer for ppc is there;)
PPC Linux's Netscape doesn't do plugins. At all. RealPlayer has a standalone app...
OTOH, I hear Konqueror supports Netscape plugins...
-Hollis
I remember reading this a while back but I didn't think it was that long ago...
News.com: Basque site shut down
The date? July 18, 1997
Doing a search for "basque" on news.com turns up a bunch of related stories (if you want the backstory).
The other day I stumbled across a program in the console-tools package called unicode_start (and unicode_stop). Haven't had time to play... do these do anything useful? What unicode support is there in the console driver?
I think you'll find that all of the packages in LinuxPPC 2000 are significantly more up to date (performace, bug fixes, features...) than CS 1.1 (or LinuxPPC 1999), which is to be expected in any newer release.
You're displaying your ignorance.
a) The default installation of LinuxPPC has no inetd servers enabled. It doesn't get much more secure...
b) You have now and have always had the option to install with the RedHat installer (rather than the graphical one).
And considering that there were almost no differences at all between LinuxPPC 1999 and YDL CS 1.1, it's hard for YDL to be "more straightforward and easier to use."
> the various Linux PPC projects doesn't seem to have too much troubles running on the latest Macs.
It was a looong time before the G3's were supported. The only reason G4's, iBooks, and iMac DV's work at all right now are through the incredible hacking efforts of Ben Herrenschmidt, who received a donated iBook and G4 from LinuxPPC Inc. Where was Apple there?
I'm sure Be Inc had more profitable things to do with their time than hack interrupt controllers in MacsBug.
I use a Kensington 4-button Thinking Mouse.
Also, might I recommend a 3-button USB? Cross-platform peripherals rock my world...
Yellow Dog *is* LinuxPPC. Different packaging. Whenever people ask them the differences between YDL vs MkLinux and LinuxPPC, they're always very careful to compare only to MkLinux.
I think TurboLinux is working on an up-to-date version for PowerPC, but it's not done yet. They did have something older, but I don't think I've ever heard of anyone using it.
Debian for PowerPC lacks an installer and requires a LinuxPPC bootstrap process.
Amen to that (especially the performance comment).
I still use Linux on my PowerMac, but on my PC I'm being dazzled by BeOS and loving it. I like Linux for some reasons, but overall I think I like the BeOS... Linux is not the best, it's just one of the better ones.
The difficulty is that LinuxPPC R5 comes with all inetd services disbled (for security). So it's not *really* a stock install - Jeff had to make it less secure. I believe the intent is to keep turning on services (like telnetd, which was already enabled) if no one breaks it quick enough.
Besides, if this server is cracked, then we will have found another hole to patch, which is the point of cracking, right?
You talk about taking a week to secure a server, but it could be done in a few minutes by turning everything off except Apache (and disable CGI). "Secure" is kind of a tradeoff in that case.
My question is: whose email address at DSC do we spam?
I read that and I just get this sinking feeling reading about all the motions overturned, contempt of court, etc.
Suck.
Many of the open source emulators you're talking about are either incomplete or horribly limited.
If you'd ever watched Windows 95 boot on your PowerMac, you'd have more respect for this company.
-Hollis