You were more vague in your original statement than your reply. There was no way of knowing you were referring to a specific brand/model of HDTV, so the impression someone not in-the-know might get is that "I saw HDTV this weekend. It was impressive, but not $10,000 impressive". That would imply to someone that it costs $10,000 to get HDTV, which as I pointed out is not the case.
Unfortunately, at least here in the US, there's an imaginary $10,000 "cost-of-entry" into HDTV that many articles and talk-shows seem to spout, with no factual basis. Therefore, people think it costs 10K for HDTV, don't get it, and keep it from having a broader user-base that would result in more programming.
Now how about keeping the discussion on topic and not getting personal and offensive again? I have issues? - why, because I did a quick search to see if perhaps I was wrong and all HDTVs were $10,000 in your neck of the woods?
I think it would be interesting to gives students a test that requires them to combine their own coding skills, along with research and perhaps cooperation. Give a programming assignment in class, but rather difficult or complex, and let them use books, internet, talking to each other, whatever. This is how it works in the real-world typically. The grade you get could depend on how close you are to the "deadline". You *can* go over it, but you then have no chance of an A (just like if I miss a deadline, the client might not pay fully)..
"Would you like to save your file in a format besides the Word Default format? You'll lose most of the nice things you've added to your document, such as fonts, formatting, tables, and anything else besides text, but you'll be making the.025% of the world's computer users happy, because they'll be able to view your document (which they most likely could do in the.DOC format but just don't want to).
IMO, an HDTV (16:9, not a 4:3 HDTV-Ready) set is definately worth it if you're really into TV/Movies (like I am). There is actually a significant amount of HDTV material - most of CBS's primetime lineup, HDNet, CBS Sporting events (NFL Playoffs, Masters, etc). NBC and ABC are adding more and more, PBS has some stuff, HBO-HD and SHO-HD. Its only going to increase.
Of course, you need to be able to get the stations (either OTA or Satellite/Cable), but the coverage range is also increasing with cable companies now offering HDTV feeds.
Add to that the benefit of being able to watch DVD in WideScreen, progressive output and its fabulous.
I definitely recommend a look at AVS Forums for much more information. I would also highly recommend getting the set ISF Calibrated after you have it for 100+ hours running. Makes a drastic difference in the picture quality.
BTW - AFAIK, the 2006 deadline (or whatever the year is) is for stations to be broadcasting DIGITALLY, which does NOT mean HDTV, just Digital. We all know digital can look like crap and worse than analog with too much compression (DirecTV and DishNetwork on some channels for instance).
Standalone TiVo has different recording qualities - the TiVo does the compression.
The DirecTiVo record the bitstream as it is received from the satellite, so it in effect has only 1 recording quality, however the satellite signal itself will already be compressed at varying levels.
EchoStar Dishplayer and PVR501 record the bitstream.
I have a DishPlayer, 501 and a SA TiVo. The EchoStar equipment is rather bug-ridden (check dbsforums.com for more info), but it record at a better quality than the TiVo (because the TiVo is standalone, thus compresing the already compressed satellite signal). Plus, the TiVo has to use the IR blaster to control the satellite receiver (at least echostar ones), so channel changing is slow and sometimes (rarely) misses the change.
However, if I were just gettig one and had dishnetwork, I would get the TiVo, followed by a used (or if you can find one since its discontinued) DishPlayer (which is very similar to Microsoft's UltimateTV Directv receiver), and lastly the PVR501..
The PVR501 is not much more than a digital VCR. It has no "P"ersonal functionality like the tivo (suggestions, wishlists, searching, etc.)
Now what I really need is one of these can can record HDTV..
What about if you refresh, are you charged again? Is it per-visit, per-day, etc.? I don't think there is any way this would work. Some articles are already (unnecessarily) split into far too many pages, mostly so they can have more banner ads. Google caches.. who gets paid there?
In the case of the original article which is talking about developers, than yes, but as a blanket statement, no way. A significant amount of "business people" are not bottom of the wage bracket, quite the contrary, but that doesn't make them computer experts, and invariably they are going to install some program that will screw something up.
And how do you pay for this? Are you independently wealthy? If not, you're going to have to charge somebody something, and then you've just commercialized your "free" internet.
Nothing is free - somebody always pays somewhere.
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You were more vague in your original statement than your reply. There was no way of knowing you were referring to a specific brand/model of HDTV, so the impression someone not in-the-know might get is that "I saw HDTV this weekend. It was impressive, but not $10,000 impressive". That would imply to someone that it costs $10,000 to get HDTV, which as I pointed out is not the case.
Unfortunately, at least here in the US, there's an imaginary $10,000 "cost-of-entry" into HDTV that many articles and talk-shows seem to spout, with no factual basis. Therefore, people think it costs 10K for HDTV, don't get it, and keep it from having a broader user-base that would result in more programming.
Now how about keeping the discussion on topic and not getting personal and offensive again? I have issues? - why, because I did a quick search to see if perhaps I was wrong and all HDTVs were $10,000 in your neck of the woods?
Point taken. However, a quick search on that site shows a Hitachi 61' Widescreen HDTV for $5399. Still a far cry from 10K.
Again we see the 10K misinformation. If the best you can find an HDTV Setup for is 10K, you're looking in the wrong place.
Any number of 55-57" Widescreen HDTV's = ~3000 retail (you can get them for less).
HDTV Decoder ~500-700
Rabbit ears - ~20
Thats not even 4K.. if you go to a 46" set or so, the whole shebang is less than 2.5K.
I think it would be interesting to gives students a test that requires them to combine their own coding skills, along with research and perhaps cooperation. Give a programming assignment in class, but rather difficult or complex, and let them use books, internet, talking to each other, whatever. This is how it works in the real-world typically. The grade you get could depend on how close you are to the "deadline". You *can* go over it, but you then have no chance of an A (just like if I miss a deadline, the client might not pay fully)..
Anyhow, just an idea..
Just make sure you phase the question like
.025% of the world's computer users happy, because they'll be able to view your document (which they most likely could do in the .DOC format but just don't want to).
"Would you like to save your file in a format besides the Word Default format? You'll lose most of the nice things you've added to your document, such as fonts, formatting, tables, and anything else besides text, but you'll be making the
Of course, you need to be able to get the stations (either OTA or Satellite/Cable), but the coverage range is also increasing with cable companies now offering HDTV feeds.
Add to that the benefit of being able to watch DVD in WideScreen, progressive output and its fabulous.
I definitely recommend a look at AVS Forums for much more information. I would also highly recommend getting the set ISF Calibrated after you have it for 100+ hours running. Makes a drastic difference in the picture quality.
BTW - AFAIK, the 2006 deadline (or whatever the year is) is for stations to be broadcasting DIGITALLY, which does NOT mean HDTV, just Digital. We all know digital can look like crap and worse than analog with too much compression (DirecTV and DishNetwork on some channels for instance).
-Frank
I say pay for the music people have put much time into creating.
But I'm sure you're all using KaZaa/etc. to download copies of things you already legally own..
Standalone TiVo has different recording qualities - the TiVo does the compression.
The DirecTiVo record the bitstream as it is received from the satellite, so it in effect has only 1 recording quality, however the satellite signal itself will already be compressed at varying levels.
EchoStar Dishplayer and PVR501 record the bitstream.
I have a DishPlayer, 501 and a SA TiVo. The EchoStar equipment is rather bug-ridden (check dbsforums.com for more info), but it record at a better quality than the TiVo (because the TiVo is standalone, thus compresing the already compressed satellite signal). Plus, the TiVo has to use the IR blaster to control the satellite receiver (at least echostar ones), so channel changing is slow and sometimes (rarely) misses the change.
However, if I were just gettig one and had dishnetwork, I would get the TiVo, followed by a used (or if you can find one since its discontinued) DishPlayer (which is very similar to Microsoft's UltimateTV Directv receiver), and lastly the PVR501..
The PVR501 is not much more than a digital VCR. It has no "P"ersonal functionality like the tivo (suggestions, wishlists, searching, etc.)
Now what I really need is one of these can can record HDTV..
What about if you refresh, are you charged again? Is it per-visit, per-day, etc.? I don't think there is any way this would work. Some articles are already (unnecessarily) split into far too many pages, mostly so they can have more banner ads. Google caches.. who gets paid there?
In the case of the original article which is talking about developers, than yes, but as a blanket statement, no way. A significant amount of "business people" are not bottom of the wage bracket, quite the contrary, but that doesn't make them computer experts, and invariably they are going to install some program that will screw something up.
But you still can't roll back the odometer..
No Sub-SELECTs, and no UNIONS..
And how do you pay for this? Are you independently wealthy? If not, you're going to have to charge somebody something, and then you've just commercialized your "free" internet. Nothing is free - somebody always pays somewhere.
I agree, but for something like this, it is *obvious* that you should speak to a lawyer right away.