I thought the network portion of the address (the first 64 bits) had bits allocated for region. Couldn't you just filter out those regions? Or deny all and then load allow filters. I don't know, I'm not a network guy.
That's what I do with ipv4. Are they going to keep the same ARIN etc. setups? Even if they do, the gazillion address space means that the number of ranges will be huge. I deal with 255 x 255 as currently exists, but basically this is giving the commie criminals free range to attack from so many addresses that no one will be able to block them. You ought to see the ranges they attack from in 255 x 255.
I can handle blocking IPv4 blocks based on geography given I have a US oriented website. But if you guys think you're going to unleash spammers from hell on me with a gazillion IP addresses, think again. As far as I'm concerned, you can give IPv6 to the Russians and Chinese on their own spam network.
The range of IPv4 addresses these people spam from is insane. Just give them back to us and go take IPv6 and spam yourselves into oblivion.
There's the point about licensed copies of Windows involved made elsewhere in the thread, but besides the absolute count vs. rate point, the impression given is that a large number of bot activity emanate from US computers compared to other countries.
There is other bot activity such as generating email or probing networks to infect other computers that I don't see, but I can tell you it isn't forum board spamming coming in large numbers from US computers. It comes from former USSR, China, and Brazil in quite predominant numbers.
But then again, we're back to the legal/illegal copies of Windows and what appears to be Microsoft counting large numbers of legal copies of Windows in the US compared to other countries.
I've seen this reported about relatively large numbers of US bots repeatedly and I just don't see that in my web logs over last eight years. Actually the honey pot IP address collectors would be much more accurate sources of this data in my opinion. This particular source and method from Microsoft is, in the words of several posters here, next to worthless.
If the honey pot collectors are also saying that relatively large numbers of bot type activity is coming from US IP addresses compared to other countries such as former USSR and China, then I would have a hard time understanding it. I would have to look at the data, because I haven't seen that in my experience.
There used to be a time (15-20 years ago) where you could get a decent job developing software with only an associates degree (truth to be told, most software development only requires what a GOOD software-centric AA/AS provides)
I'm from that time, and I have an Associates. I spent first ten years on PC, last twenty on AS/400 iseries.
Collectively, I know from various news reports that we have lots of massive software development failures. For the companies I've worked for with AS/400, Fortune 500 companies, the development has been pretty successful through the years.
Successful enough that outsourcing experiments didn't beat us out.
That's just my experience though. Currently developing web apps with Java and I can see how some of those large scale projects have ended in disaster.
Believe me, when you are working on image processing, or scientific software, or research software, or hardware integration, or real-time systems, or massive internet-scale software (as I have) you get *hard* problems. The run of the mill web and CRUD stuff is nothing in comparison.
Oh, I agree the run of the mill stuff is nothing in comparison, there's not enough to it to zone on. Image processing I've zoned on big time. Here's a sample of where I'm at on one of them: rdwrites OCRvectors image http://www.rdwrites.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3794
And on that page is a link to a b/w to gray rendering algorithm I zoned on one time.
I especially agree with the hardware integration. I wrote the scanner drivers for PC Paintbrush under DOS, back in the day before TWAIN. Some intense zoning to meet show deadlines among other things.
Even more intense zoning was when I wrote Double Deck Pinochle in Z-80 back when writing an expert level game was considered AI. Rewrote in Java and currently rewriting for the web implementing some ideas I have for extremely high performance web serving.
Real-time systems, I headed up the real-time shop floor interface to the BPCS ERP for large pharmaceuticals using that shop floor system. Some intense zoning on that.
Also wrote the telephone emergency notification system that was used by several nuclear plants and the reservation confirmation system that was used by Cablevision. Not to mention school absentee notification systems that was used by schools nationwide. Writing the nuclear plant emergency notification system one summer to avert a million dollar a day penalty fee if I didn't come through for the company was not so much zoning as having my utmost attention.
I write business software day in, day out though. I agree, not zoning material.
The point is, coding in a zone is not heroic, and you are writing from a mental framework, not encountering multiple "hard" problems. In a zone, however hard the problems were, you have a mental framework as answer.
Should one encounter an unexpected obstacle to their vision in the wee hours, then yes, one would clsoe down and sleep on it.
This is experience in it talking. Not hypothetical. YMMV.
If you can 'code' for 20 hour stints then you're:...
Then you've missed out on coding in a zone, which is fine, but just because you don't understand it means you have any basis to dismiss it or the results. In fact a person who isn't in a concentration zone couldn't even pretend to program for 20 hours.
Or maybe they are just complete idiots in comparison to your God-like skillz.
You skirted around the guy's point with your ORM layer. The point is that only an idiot would push something straight off user input into an SQL string or into the database. The fact that millions of web sites have been "injected", as the original poster pointed out is a term that can only be met with disbelief by veterans for cluelessly shoving garbage in to garbage out, despite the books and functions available you mention, means clueless idiots required.
Granted, there are diabolical hacks with inputs whose code translations evade well known filters for a particular app, but we're talking here of programmers who couldn't be bothered to call a filter on user input. Not God-like skillz programming, just experience with garbage in, whatever the source.
I would like to hear from programmers that have been at it for 10 or more years that aren't 'burned out'.
Here's one, 38 years programming since college, and have more personal projects stacked up than I can get to after working all day programming. Couldn't program before college, pre-dated home computers, but I'm sure I would have programmed as soon as I could get on a computer.
Assembler and BASIC in the beginning, RPG through the years, and now Java alongside RPG. People who love programming don't get burned out. It's what I would do even if I was independently wealthy.
There are no good reasons to publish a textbook? Really? Are you assuming that the Indian public school system has 100% students owning laptops? Or even computers at home? Because that seems very unlikely to me. So how are students that aren't online to do homework? Print out the text, use it (or not) and toss it?
If they can only use it at school, it's like saying 'why bother with any documentation when the teacher is there to help them?'
The "textbook" documentation is online. Lab computers should be available throughout the day for course completion for those who have no internet access from home.
You gloss over the many bad reasons for publishing a textbook on this subject to start with for a student to have, especially to allegedly learn about computer communications without a computer as you suggest.
That would result in Russia and China being quarantined from the world network where they could spam each other for commie money.
I know that isn't politically correct to say but for anyone who looks at the IP addresses where server attacks come from they would know I speak the truth.
Your course should be online and continuously developed, in part driven by responses / challenges from the students.
It is ironic that a course on using computer communications would be thought of as being taught from a textbook. There are no good reasons to publish a textbook and many bad ones.
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No that did not happen.
Their is no IPv6-regions you speak of, this was an idea which was never implemented.
Thanks for the answer.
rd
I thought the network portion of the address (the first 64 bits) had bits allocated for region. Couldn't you just filter out those regions? Or deny all and then load allow filters. I don't know, I'm not a network guy.
That's what I do with ipv4. Are they going to keep the same ARIN etc. setups? Even if they do, the gazillion address space means that the number of ranges will be huge. I deal with 255 x 255 as currently exists, but basically this is giving the commie criminals free range to attack from so many addresses that no one will be able to block them. You ought to see the ranges they attack from in 255 x 255.
rd
what did unhappy spammers give me a troll rating because I called them out? Ten years here and I get a troll for stating my opinion.
rd
I can handle blocking IPv4 blocks based on geography given I have a US oriented website. But if you guys think you're going to unleash spammers from hell on me with a gazillion IP addresses, think again. As far as I'm concerned, you can give IPv6 to the Russians and Chinese on their own spam network.
The range of IPv4 addresses these people spam from is insane. Just give them back to us and go take IPv6 and spam yourselves into oblivion.
rd
Please tell me this is a glitch and that my slashdot viewing pleasure is still lurking behind this obscene layout that I can't find any way to change.
rd
P.S. Well, one thing didn't change. It still takes a lifetime to preview a comment.
There's the point about licensed copies of Windows involved made elsewhere in the thread, but besides the absolute count vs. rate point, the impression given is that a large number of bot activity emanate from US computers compared to other countries.
There is other bot activity such as generating email or probing networks to infect other computers that I don't see, but I can tell you it isn't forum board spamming coming in large numbers from US computers. It comes from former USSR, China, and Brazil in quite predominant numbers.
But then again, we're back to the legal/illegal copies of Windows and what appears to be Microsoft counting large numbers of legal copies of Windows in the US compared to other countries.
I've seen this reported about relatively large numbers of US bots repeatedly and I just don't see that in my web logs over last eight years. Actually the honey pot IP address collectors would be much more accurate sources of this data in my opinion. This particular source and method from Microsoft is, in the words of several posters here, next to worthless.
If the honey pot collectors are also saying that relatively large numbers of bot type activity is coming from US IP addresses compared to other countries such as former USSR and China, then I would have a hard time understanding it. I would have to look at the data, because I haven't seen that in my experience.
rd
...then we could have had the Robert Byrd Hot Air Energy Generation Facility, and his legacy would live on!
Robert Byrd left us his namesake Hot Air Energy Generation Facility. It's called the United States Senate.
rd
There used to be a time (15-20 years ago) where you could get a decent job developing software with only an associates degree (truth to be told, most software development only requires what a GOOD software-centric AA/AS provides)
I'm from that time, and I have an Associates. I spent first ten years on PC, last twenty on AS/400 iseries.
Collectively, I know from various news reports that we have lots of massive software development failures. For the companies I've worked for with AS/400, Fortune 500 companies, the development has been pretty successful through the years.
Successful enough that outsourcing experiments didn't beat us out.
That's just my experience though. Currently developing web apps with Java and I can see how some of those large scale projects have ended in disaster.
rd
Has anyone with an Associates degree been hired by IBM lately in the US? Has IBM hired anyone in the US lately?
There's a whole lot of laid off IBM workers that are wondering the same thing, I'm thinking.
rd
Well, considering general natures of government and military today, I was willing to believe...
Hey, what do /., AM radio talk shows, and FOX News have in common? People like you!!!!!!
He was willing, but he looked it up. That makes it people not like him.
rd
I would be surprised if the secret forensics information is anything more than the malware has Russian roots.
Just because malware is written by Russia crackers doesn't make it a Russian government attack.
rd
Believe me, when you are working on image processing, or scientific software, or research software, or hardware integration, or real-time systems, or massive internet-scale software (as I have) you get *hard* problems. The run of the mill web and CRUD stuff is nothing in comparison.
Oh, I agree the run of the mill stuff is nothing in comparison, there's not enough to it to zone on. Image processing I've zoned on big time. Here's a sample of where I'm at on one of them: rdwrites OCRvectors image http://www.rdwrites.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3794
And on that page is a link to a b/w to gray rendering algorithm I zoned on one time.
I especially agree with the hardware integration. I wrote the scanner drivers for PC Paintbrush under DOS, back in the day before TWAIN. Some intense zoning to meet show deadlines among other things.
Even more intense zoning was when I wrote Double Deck Pinochle in Z-80 back when writing an expert level game was considered AI. Rewrote in Java and currently rewriting for the web implementing some ideas I have for extremely high performance web serving.
Real-time systems, I headed up the real-time shop floor interface to the BPCS ERP for large pharmaceuticals using that shop floor system. Some intense zoning on that.
Also wrote the telephone emergency notification system that was used by several nuclear plants and the reservation confirmation system that was used by Cablevision. Not to mention school absentee notification systems that was used by schools nationwide. Writing the nuclear plant emergency notification system one summer to avert a million dollar a day penalty fee if I didn't come through for the company was not so much zoning as having my utmost attention.
I write business software day in, day out though. I agree, not zoning material.
rd
The point is, coding in a zone is not heroic, and you are writing from a mental framework, not encountering multiple "hard" problems. In a zone, however hard the problems were, you have a mental framework as answer.
Should one encounter an unexpected obstacle to their vision in the wee hours, then yes, one would clsoe down and sleep on it.
This is experience in it talking. Not hypothetical. YMMV.
rd
I guess I don't see much blatant ageism.
The group you list is too young for ageism to come into play.
This talk about agism makes the assumption that there is some prejudice against older workers. What is this assumption based on?
Experience.
I absolutely love coding and building some pretty nifty things.
Glad you registered to post. Interesting post.
rd
Well, I'm 80 (with almost 50 yrs of code cranking in so far) . And I do pretty much as you describe, except that I'm doing it as/for free/open-source.
Good on you, as they say. Great to hear from a real veteran programmer. :)
rd
If you can 'code' for 20 hour stints then you're:...
Then you've missed out on coding in a zone, which is fine, but just because you don't understand it means you have any basis to dismiss it or the results. In fact a person who isn't in a concentration zone couldn't even pretend to program for 20 hours.
rd
Or maybe they are just complete idiots in comparison to your God-like skillz.
You skirted around the guy's point with your ORM layer. The point is that only an idiot would push something straight off user input into an SQL string or into the database. The fact that millions of web sites have been "injected", as the original poster pointed out is a term that can only be met with disbelief by veterans for cluelessly shoving garbage in to garbage out, despite the books and functions available you mention, means clueless idiots required.
Granted, there are diabolical hacks with inputs whose code translations evade well known filters for a particular app, but we're talking here of programmers who couldn't be bothered to call a filter on user input. Not God-like skillz programming, just experience with garbage in, whatever the source.
rd
How do you do this?
The efficient way is to keep relevant counts as you add and remove documents in a database and look it up. You wouldn't malloc anything.
Just sayin.
rd
I would like to hear from programmers that have been at it for 10 or more years that aren't 'burned out'.
Here's one, 38 years programming since college, and have more personal projects stacked up than I can get to after working all day programming. Couldn't program before college, pre-dated home computers, but I'm sure I would have programmed as soon as I could get on a computer.
Assembler and BASIC in the beginning, RPG through the years, and now Java alongside RPG. People who love programming don't get burned out. It's what I would do even if I was independently wealthy.
rd
There are no good reasons to publish a textbook? Really? Are you assuming that the Indian public school system has 100% students owning laptops? Or even computers at home? Because that seems very unlikely to me. So how are students that aren't online to do homework? Print out the text, use it (or not) and toss it?
If they can only use it at school, it's like saying 'why bother with any documentation when the teacher is there to help them?'
The "textbook" documentation is online. Lab computers should be available throughout the day for course completion for those who have no internet access from home.
You gloss over the many bad reasons for publishing a textbook on this subject to start with for a student to have, especially to allegedly learn about computer communications without a computer as you suggest.
rd
That would result in Russia and China being quarantined from the world network where they could spam each other for commie money.
I know that isn't politically correct to say but for anyone who looks at the IP addresses where server attacks come from they would know I speak the truth.
rd
Your course should be online and continuously developed, in part driven by responses / challenges from the students.
It is ironic that a course on using computer communications would be thought of as being taught from a textbook. There are no good reasons to publish a textbook and many bad ones.
rd
Don't have to worry much about a job opportunity for NASA workers.